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00:00 For more, we can speak to Alexandra Filipenko, a political analyst joining us from Vilnius.
00:04 Hello to you, Alexandra.
00:05 On the one hand, we have Ukraine's president saying morale is low, that there are not enough
00:11 troops.
00:12 On the other hand, we have Vladimir Putin, who says he just wants to create a buffer zone.
00:16 Given these public declarations from Ukraine's president, is there a risk that Russia might try
00:23 to push further into Ukraine rather than just creating a buffer zone?
00:28 It seems like Russia wants to push further because, of course, President Putin many times
00:34 have said that Russia has no plans to take Ukrainian cities.
00:39 At the beginning of the war, just a day before the war started, the full-scale invasion started
00:46 in 2022.
00:48 President Putin said that Russia has no plans to take Ukrainian territory.
00:53 It only wants to free some territory on the eastern part of Ukraine.
00:58 So now President Putin is saying that Russia has no plans to take Kharkiv as of today.
01:04 That's what he said when he was in Beijing.
01:07 So maybe we should take note of that as of today.
01:12 They really want to create this so-called buffer zone, or as they call it, sanitary
01:18 zone, in response to the shelling of Belgorod region, Russian city of Belgorod, by the Ukrainian
01:25 armed forces.
01:26 But if Russia can move forward, most probably they will take this opportunity to move forward,
01:33 especially since in that exact interview, President Zelensky said that now Ukraine only
01:39 has about 25 percent of what Ukraine needs to defend its territory.
01:44 So Russia knows it, and if Russia knows it, probably they will try to push forward.
01:49 Yeah.
01:50 And if Ukraine is outgunned and outmanned, what can it do to try to slow the Russian advance?
01:56 First of all, Ukraine needs the help of Western allies, of course, that help from the United
02:03 States.
02:04 And they need it as fast as possible in order to stop Russian offensive.
02:09 Of course, also one of the opportunities are talks with the Russian side.
02:14 But we know that President Putin also in that interview, while his trip to China, he said
02:21 that the Istanbul agreements must be the basis for negotiation process on Ukraine, and that
02:27 Russia, according to President Putin, is ready for negotiations.
02:32 And according, again, to President Putin, the attempt to inflict a strategic defeat
02:37 on the battlefield is failing.
02:39 So Russia will not tolerate an attempt to impose an ultimatum or something that Ukrainian,
02:46 how Ukraine sees the end of the war.
02:50 But as we know, Russian president has said and repeatedly said that they will not move
02:57 out of the territory that they consider to be Russian territory.
03:01 Even those new regions that are according to this new Russian constitution are a part
03:07 of Russian territory.
03:09 And of course, for Ukraine, for Vladimir Zelensky and for Ukrainian officials, that those
03:15 territories, including Crimea, including Donbas region, are officially Ukrainian territory
03:22 that is, of course, and it's accepted by the international community.
03:27 So maybe a way to move forward is to sit down and talk.
03:31 But now I don't see any way of sitting down at the table because two sides see the end
03:40 of the war in absolutely different ways.
03:43 Yeah.
03:43 And when you listen to Ukrainian troops on the front line, they're desperate for help
03:47 to arrive as quickly as possible.
03:50 There's this new mobilization law going into effect today.
03:55 Do you think it'll make any changes?
03:56 And when would those changes be visible on the battlefield?
04:00 Of course, we must see some changes.
04:03 Not necessarily we will see them soon.
04:06 President Zelensky signed this new decree on mobilization and a decree on mobilization
04:13 of convicts.
04:14 Also, what we've been seeing in Russia also now some there's big difference in Ukraine,
04:21 only some categories of convicts and prisoners in Ukraine will be able to voluntarily go
04:27 and serve in the army only during martial law and eligible are only those who have committed
04:34 offenses of light and medium severity and those who have no more than three years left
04:39 before the end of their sentence.
04:42 It is a big difference in comparison to Russia, because we are seeing on Russian front lines
04:47 that those who are going to fight for Russia, those convicts, those Russian convicts are
04:52 those who are supposed to be in prison for 10 or more than 10 years.
04:56 So those prisoners, if they agree to sign a contract, Ukrainian Justice Ministry said
05:01 earlier that there will be potentially 10,000 to 20,000 convicts in Ukraine who could be
05:08 mobilized for that contract service.
05:10 But probably we will see them only around autumn, because, again, in comparison to Russia,
05:18 there is big difference.
05:19 They can be granted parole, but final decision can only be made by the court.
05:24 In Russia, prisoners sign a contract and they go to the front lines.
05:28 In Ukraine, this won't work this way.
05:30 In that interview, the Ukrainian president also repeated pleased to have the West's
05:36 air defense fighter jet, something he's made many calls for, and yet his allies abroad
05:43 dragging their feet on that.
05:44 Do you think they're going to get any closer to maybe offering that kind of help as Russia
05:49 makes this push and possibly, as Zelensky said, maybe even a second wave?
05:53 There are possibilities of a few waves of Russian offensive.
05:59 And, of course, Ukraine needs that help, need every, any kind of help that Ukraine can get.
06:07 But it looks like European leaders are now moving more towards the idea of a ceasefire
06:14 or more towards the idea of somehow coming to the table and negotiating.
06:20 So it looks like they will push more in that side.
06:24 But at the same time, in order not to let Ukraine lose, of course, they must give more
06:32 help to Ukraine.
06:33 As of now, as we've already said, only 25 percent of the American help arrived in Ukraine.
06:39 So maybe as more arrives, Ukraine will feel stronger and there will be more opportunities
06:46 and more possibilities to stop Russian offensive.
06:49 And so that's how maybe Ukraine will not need that much help from the European allies.
06:55 Major NATO anniversary coming up in a few more weeks.
07:00 Do you think Vladimir Putin wants to send a big message before then?
07:04 President Putin always wants to send a big message.
07:08 And I think the visit to China is, of course, that big message that President Putin wanted
07:14 to send, because if we look at the agreements that were signed in China, there was nothing
07:21 serious, everything about agriculture, something about tourism, media cooperation, nothing
07:27 about military cooperation, strategic cooperation or things like that.
07:31 But if we look at the photographs, at the videos, how Russian delegation was met in
07:38 Beijing and what they were doing, how long they were staying, what a huge group of Russian
07:43 governmental officials was there.
07:45 We can see that this is a show.
07:48 This is a show and most probably not for Russian audiences, but for European audiences, for
07:54 Europeans and Americans to see that Russia and China work together.
07:59 But this is actually just an act, because if we look at the pictures, yes, they are
08:03 impressive.
08:04 But let's look at the documents.
08:06 The documents that were signed are just words.
08:09 There is no exact plan, no exact plans, no exact agreements.
08:14 Those agreements are not in the strategic or military field.
08:19 So this, I think that was the show that President Putin wanted to put before the anniversary
08:26 and before the meeting of collective West, as Putin puts it.
08:31 Yeah, so some doubts about how deep that no limits friendship really runs.
08:36 Alexandra, thank you for your time.
08:37 Alexandra Filippenko speaking to us from Vilnius.

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