Faisal Vawda and Haider Naqvi speak up on on PML-N, PPP coalition govt's future
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00:00 You have made so many predictions that we get them counted daily.
00:04 It doesn't look good. How many more should we praise you?
00:06 We cannot praise you so much.
00:08 The government was formed.
00:10 You had an assessment that the government will be formed.
00:12 And now, your biggest prediction on that was that the government will be formed, but it won't run.
00:22 Now, in your opinion, how long will this government run?
00:26 Thank you very much, Mr. Guman.
00:28 Mr. Guman, the miracle of Allah has happened.
00:32 The coalition has been formed.
00:34 The coalition has come to the provinces.
00:36 The people of the coalition have come to the ministries in the second phase.
00:40 They have become a little upset in the budget.
00:42 They have become a little upset before the IMF.
00:44 The miracle of Allah will happen in the Dakka of Karkara.
00:50 So, it will take 2.5 to 2.5 years.
00:52 If you exaggerate it, it will take 2.5 to 2.5 years.
00:54 This is very much if, if, if, if, if, if.
00:58 Out of the impossibilities, but we have a calculation.
01:00 Otherwise, much before time, it will take 1.5 to 1.25 years.
01:04 Why?
01:06 Because, sir, there are many reasons for it.
01:08 You have to give $24 billion.
01:10 You have a $2 billion deposit.
01:12 There are electricity bills.
01:14 There is a settlement plan for the IMF.
01:16 There is an arrangement for unemployment and poverty.
01:18 There is no special life force in the treasury.
01:22 There is unrest.
01:24 There are press conferences.
01:26 There are people on the streets.
01:28 If you sum up all these things,
01:30 then it can be one of the impossibilities,
01:32 that is, it can be a miracle.
01:34 And plus, everyone has got big provinces.
01:36 KPK, PTI has gone.
01:38 Baruch Hussain People's Party, Sindh People's Party, Punjab, Noon League.
01:42 Everyone's emphasis is on their provinces.
01:44 This is very good, isn't it?
01:46 Everyone is happy.
01:48 They will sit in their own place.
01:50 It's a simple, strong number game.
01:52 And from there, the problem will continue.
01:54 The expired and inauspicious leader-in-arms
01:56 that we have,
01:58 who are coming to Pakistan
02:00 with the slogan of destroying and occupying Pakistan,
02:02 they are still in the paradise of the foolish
02:04 who think that even if a crisis comes,
02:06 the federal government will fall.
02:08 We will keep running provinces, which are impossible.
02:10 So, all this is on the basis of possibilities and possibilities.
02:14 You have heard all these stories of coalition.
02:16 You are listening.
02:18 And I think, in this win-win situation,
02:20 they are enjoying.
02:22 So, they should enjoy.
02:24 I have explained to PTI that you come in,
02:26 in power or in the democratic system.
02:28 Come and fix the system.
02:30 They have gone to make it on the moon.
02:32 So, we are looking at the moon.
02:34 We are starting Mr. Omar Abuyub from there.
02:36 Let's try to bring him down from the moon.
02:38 Mr. Haider Naqvi, the first question is this.
02:40 What is your assessment?
02:42 I have seen your deep eyes on the Pakistan People's Party.
02:44 I have also seen your columns.
02:46 In your assessment,
02:48 apparently, there is a very strong, simple alliance.
02:50 They have a simple majority in the number game.
02:52 So, why are they giving less time to this government?
02:56 In your opinion, how much will this government run?
03:00 Thank you very much, Mr. Khawar Guman.
03:04 Assalam-o-Alaikum to you and all the friends.
03:06 What Faisal Wada is talking about,
03:08 he is a very well-informed man.
03:10 He is a very respected senior for us.
03:12 Thank you.
03:14 He has a very deep view on politics.
03:16 But when such situations and incidents occur,
03:18 they are assessed on the basis of past incidents.
03:22 This is absolutely correct.
03:24 What Faisal Wada said,
03:26 that at present, Pakistan is standing on the most difficult stage
03:28 economically and politically.
03:30 Now, in this whole situation,
03:32 I will take two minutes from you,
03:34 in this whole situation,
03:36 we take a different political assessment
03:38 and a different assessment of the economy.
03:40 When I said that in the past,
03:42 these things are assessed on the basis of past incidents,
03:44 I will take you back to 2008.
03:46 In 2008, when Asif Ali Zardari became the President of Pakistan,
03:48 there were constant talks,
03:50 from the experts,
03:52 from the media,
03:54 and from other circles,
03:56 that Asif Ali Zardari cannot stay in the government
03:58 for more than six months.
04:00 After six months,
04:02 he will not remain President of Pakistan,
04:04 this government will end.
04:06 Then it was said for a year,
04:08 then it was said for two years,
04:10 and it was said that he will leave Pakistan
04:12 and will not return.
04:14 But then time proved that
04:16 Asif Ali Zardari became the best President of Pakistan
04:18 in history,
04:20 in the 18th term.
04:22 After that, he handed over all the powers to the Parliament.
04:24 The biggest thing,
04:26 which the media does not talk about,
04:28 is to give the name of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
04:30 to the AGHAZ, the rights of Balochistan and KPK.
04:32 These are the things that strengthened
04:34 the Central Government and the provinces.
04:36 And after that, Pakistan's history saw
04:38 that a President who has completed five years,
04:40 about whom this perception was made
04:42 that his government and he himself
04:44 cannot run for more than six months.
04:46 Now let's talk a little further,
04:48 let's talk about the current politics,
04:50 the current perception that is being made.
04:52 And let me inform you a little
04:54 before coming to the perception,
04:56 in 2008 when the Noon League was formed,
04:58 he spent six months,
05:00 he was six to eight months,
05:02 he was separated,
05:04 he did not grow up,
05:06 he was three months,
05:08 he was about to leave the Noon League.
05:10 I am talking about the entire Assembly.
05:12 Okay, let's move on.
05:14 I am talking about the government
05:16 that will complete the Assembly for five years.
05:18 In this, even if your governments
05:20 keep changing,
05:22 but this Assembly will definitely
05:24 complete five years.
05:26 Now it is being said that this system
05:28 will not run for more than a year and a half.
05:30 So, I am talking in response to that.
05:32 Now let's talk about Nawaz Sharif,
05:34 let's talk about the government.
05:36 Nawaz Sharif is the head of the
05:38 Jamaat that is going to form a government.
05:40 And the majority of the Jamaat
05:42 is going to form a government.
05:44 Or the majority is formed by
05:46 the unity with him and he is the head of it.
05:48 You cannot deny this.
05:50 Now let's turn this whole political matter
05:52 a little bit.
05:54 Let's go back to 2018.
05:56 What happened in 2018?
05:58 Nawaz Sharif was in jail,
06:00 Maryam Nawaz Sharif Sahiba was in jail,
06:02 and Imran Khan Bani PTI
06:04 was in power.
06:06 And all these things were being said,
06:08 all this political turmoil,
06:10 all this political unrest,
06:12 all this political turmoil,
06:14 that Imran Khan's government
06:16 cannot run for a long time.
06:18 But time has seen that
06:20 Imran Khan Bani PTI
06:22 has come in place of Nawaz Sharif
06:24 and Nawaz Sharif
06:26 has come in place of Bani PTI.
06:28 Now let's talk about the next thing.
06:30 Why should I be very optimistic
06:32 that this government will run,
06:34 this assembly will run and this system will run?
06:36 You can imagine
06:38 that before bringing
06:40 this whole system,
06:42 this assembly,
06:44 before the elections,
06:46 there was so much talk that
06:48 there will be no elections.
06:50 Before the elections,
06:52 there was so much talk that
06:54 neither the assembly will come,
06:56 nor the democracy will flourish,
06:58 but the elections were held
07:00 and somehow, I would say,
07:02 the date given by the Chief Justice
07:04 of Pakistan was on time,
07:06 or the date given by the Election Commission
07:08 was on time.
07:10 Otherwise, a perception was made
07:12 that these elections will not be held in February.
07:14 And such a perception was made
07:16 that from 8th February
07:18 till a day before,
07:20 it was said that there will be no elections tomorrow.
07:22 Anyway, the assembly came,
07:24 the winner from all the assemblies
07:26 came. Now you say
07:28 that one thing is done that
07:30 maybe the way this assembly was brought
07:32 or the way the questions were raised
07:34 on the election results or the results
07:36 that came, maybe this assembly will not run after that.
07:38 So, in 2018, it was exactly the same.
07:40 Do you know, the petitions
07:42 that were entered by the Election Commission,
07:44 by the Tribunal,
07:46 were the most
07:48 entered in 2018.
07:50 The petitions that were entered
07:52 in 2024,
07:54 the petitions that were entered in 2018
07:56 were the most.
07:58 So, I want to say that this assembly will run.
08:00 Absolutely, your assessment has made me understand
08:02 that this matter will move forward.
08:04 Absolutely, you are right.