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00:00 In other news, NATO foreign ministers are meeting in Brussels today.
00:03 Speaking there, the NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said he was confident the
00:07 United States would keep up weapons deliveries to Ukraine, despite a political blockage in
00:13 Washington.
00:14 We see intense fighting along the front line and we have seen waves of drone attacks against
00:22 the Ukrainian cities and we need to be prepared for more fighting and also more air and missile
00:29 attacks against Ukrainian cities.
00:34 This just makes it even more important that NATO Allies continue to support Ukraine.
00:41 I expect also at the meeting that Allies will reiterate their strong support for Ukraine.
00:46 We'll also meet with Foreign Minister Koleba.
00:48 For more on this, let's bring in our Brussels correspondent, Dave Keating.
00:53 Dave, Stoltenberg's comments come at a time when support for Ukraine is wavering.
00:58 How much is that going to be colouring today's meeting?
01:04 It's definitely the elephant in the room today.
01:07 This is the first time that foreign ministers have come together in this format since the
01:11 big Vilnius summit of NATO country leaders over the summer.
01:15 And since then, of course, we've had the outbreak of the Israel-Palestine war, but we've also
01:20 had the lack of success of Ukraine's summer offensive.
01:25 And all of that has fed into a fear that Ukraine is falling off the agenda, that support for
01:31 Ukraine in the West is wavering.
01:34 We've seen Republicans blocking aid to Ukraine in Washington.
01:38 We've seen Hungary's Viktor Orban here in Brussels blocking 500 million in military
01:45 aid to Ukraine and also 50 billion in long-term aid from the EU.
01:50 He's demanding a discussion before he would sign off on that on really whether the EU
01:55 should be continuing to arm Ukraine.
01:58 Then we've had victories recently for candidates in Slovakia, in the Netherlands, who want
02:05 the West to end support for Ukraine and who have been friendly with Russian President
02:09 Vladimir Putin.
02:10 It is not a good time for this alliance.
02:14 And certainly the foreign ministers today at NATO will be keen to demonstrate that their
02:19 commitment to Ukraine is unwavering.
02:22 And that's what we saw there from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg as he was entering
02:27 just about two hours ago.
02:29 But he's putting a brave face on a bad situation.
02:31 It is certainly true that Ukraine has fallen off the agenda.
02:34 We saw that last month when Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky made a surprise visit to
02:39 NATO here in Brussels, his first time doing so.
02:43 If he had done that one month earlier, it would have probably gotten a lot of attention.
02:47 But because it came just shortly after October 7th, of course, the world's attention was
02:52 still very much focused on the Israel-Palestine conflict.
02:55 That is the difficulty that the Ukrainian foreign minister will find himself in today,
03:00 how to put this back on the agenda.
03:02 Right.
03:03 So the Ukraine issue, the big elephant in the room, as you say.
03:06 What are the other big issues that are going to be on the table today?
03:10 Well, Secretary General Stoltenberg was also hoping that today Sweden would become officially
03:17 a member of NATO.
03:20 He expressed his disappointment coming in this morning that that will not be the case
03:24 because Turkey is dragging its feet on ratifying Sweden's NATO membership.
03:29 Of course, they had reached a deal with Turkey that they said they were going to pass it.
03:34 But since then, they have been being very slow on that.
03:37 Also problems in Hungary.
03:39 So there's definite disgruntlement, let's say, about that.
03:43 But he put a kind of brave face on it this morning.
03:45 They're also going to be talking about relations with China.
03:48 Stoltenberg said he wouldn't describe China as an enemy, but he said there are concerns
03:52 for NATO about China's growing strength in the Asia-Pacific region.
03:57 They're also going to be talking about Iran launching attacks via proxies in the region
04:03 and the threat that Iran might pose to the West.
04:06 Lots of other issues to discuss today.
04:09 Some of them related to Ukraine, some of them not.
04:11 But of course, then in the background, you have the Israeli-Palestine conflict.
04:15 It's not going to be directly discussed today.
04:17 It's not yet any kind of NATO mission, any kind of NATO competence.
04:23 But certainly that is the conflict that is informing all others and will certainly be
04:27 informing their discussion of Iran.

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