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MYSTERY BOOK OF ENOCH
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00:00:00We live in the King, comfort of the Spirit, and spirit of the Lord, and present it to us all things, treasure our blessings, and giver of life.
00:00:06Come and abide us and cleanse us from our great purity, and save our souls with it.
00:00:12Okay, so we got...
00:00:20Can you make that bigger? Do you care of my eyes?
00:00:24Sure.
00:00:25I cannot deal with that. Sorry.
00:00:30How's that?
00:00:32Very good.
00:00:33Yeah, it's good. Thank you.
00:00:35Okay, we got through this, right?
00:00:37I believe we got... We're up to Chapter 5, Lodika. We're beginning Chapter 5 today.
00:00:43That's what I thought.
00:00:50Okay, who would like to read?
00:00:53I can read.
00:00:54Okay.
00:00:55All right. This is John.
00:00:59Uh-huh.
00:01:00The book of the words of righteousness, and of the reprimand of eternal watchers, in accordance with the command of the Holy Great One, in that vision I saw in my sleep.
00:01:10What I will now say with a tongue of flesh, and with the breath of my mouth, with the Great One, which the Great One has given to men to converse therewith and understand with the heart.
00:01:23As he has created and given to man the power of understanding the word of wisdom, so hath he created me also, and given me the power of reprimanding the watchers, the children of heaven.
00:01:37I wrote out your petition, and in my vision, it appeared thus, that your petition will not be granted until you throughout all the days of eternity, and that judgment has been finally passed upon you.
00:02:07Your petition will not be granted until you, and from henceforth you shall not ascend into heaven unto all eternity.
00:02:19And in bonds of the earth, the decree has gone forth to bind you for all the days of the world.
00:02:26And previously you shall have seen the destruction of your beloved sons, and ye shall have no pleasure in them, but they shall fall before you by the sword.
00:02:36And your petition, and your petition, on their behalf shall not be granted, nor yet on your own, even though you weep and pray and speak all the words contained in the writings which I have written.
00:02:49And the vision was shown to me thus, behold, in the vision clouds invited me, and amidst summoned me, and the course of the stars and the lightnings sped and hastened me, and the winds and the vision caused me to fly, and lifted me upward, and bore me into heaven.
00:03:09And I went in till I drew nigh to a wall, which is built of crystals, and surrounded by tongues of fire, and it began to affright me.
00:03:20And I went into the tongues of fire, and drew nigh to a large house, which was built of crystals, and the walls of the house were like tessellated floor, made of crystals, and its groundwork was of crystal.
00:03:38Its ceiling was like the path of the stars and the lightnings, and between them were fiery cherubim, and their heaven was watered.
00:03:47A flaming fire surrounded the walls, and its portals blazed with fire, and I entered into the house, and it was hot as fire and cold as ice.
00:03:57There were no delights of life therein.
00:04:01Fear covered me, and trembling got hold upon me, and as I quaked and trembled, I fell upon my face, and I beheld a vision, and lo, there was a second house,
00:04:12greater than the former, and the entire portal stood open before me, and it was built of flames of fire.
00:04:20And in every respect, it so excelled in splendor and magnificence, an extent that I cannot describe to you its splendor and its extent.
00:04:30And its floor was of fire, and above it were lightnings and the path of the stars, and its ceiling was also flaming fire.
00:04:40And I looked and saw therein a lofty throne.
00:04:44Its appearance was as crystal, and the wheels thereof as the shining sun, and there was the vision of cherubim.
00:04:53And from underneath the throne came streams of flaming fire, so that I could not look thereon.
00:04:59And the great glory sat thereon, and his remnant shone more brightly than the sun, and was whiter than any snow.
00:05:07None of the angels could enter, and could behold his face by reason of the magnificence and glory, and no flesh could behold him.
00:05:15The flaming fire was round about him, and the great fire stood before him, and none around could draw nigh him.
00:05:24Ten thousand times ten thousand were before him, yet he needed no counselor.
00:05:30And the most holy ones, who were nigh to him, did not leave my day, nor depart from him.
00:05:38And until then, I had been prostate on my face, trembling, and the Lord called me with his own mouth.
00:05:45And he said to me, Come hither, Enoch, and hear my word.
00:05:50And one of the holy ones came to me, and waked me, and he made me rise up, and approach the door, and I bowed my face downward.
00:05:59And he answered and said to me, And I heard his voice, Fear not, Enoch, thou righteous man, and scribe of righteousness.
00:06:08Approach hither, and hear my voice.
00:06:10And go, say to the watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to intercede for them, You should intercede for men, and not men for you.
00:06:21Wherefore have ye left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and laid with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men,
00:06:29and taken to yourselves, wives, and done like the children of earth, and begotten giants as your sons.
00:06:37And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women,
00:06:45and have begotten with the blood of flesh.
00:06:49And as the children of men have lusted after flesh and blood, as those also do who die and perish.
00:06:57Therefore, have I given them wives also, that they might impregnate them, and begot children by them,
00:07:06that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth.
00:07:11But you were formerly spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world.
00:07:18And therefore, I have not appointed wives for you, for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.
00:07:27And now the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth,
00:07:36and on the earth shall be their dwelling.
00:07:39Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies, because they were born from men, and from the watchers is their beginning and primal origin.
00:07:48They shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called.
00:07:53And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble.
00:08:05They take no food, but nonetheless hunger and thirst, and cause offenses.
00:08:10And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men, and against women, because they have proceeded from them.
00:08:16From the days of the slaughter and destruction, and death of the giants, from the souls of whose flesh the spirits, having gone forth,
00:08:27shall destroy without incurring judgment.
00:08:29Thus shall they destroy until the day of the consummation, the great judgment in which the age shall be consummated.
00:08:37Over the watchers and the godless, yea, shall be wholly consummated.
00:08:43And now, as to the watchers who have set thee to intercede for them, who had been aforetime in heaven, say to them,
00:08:53You have been in heaven, but all the mysteries had not been revealed to you, and you knew worthless ones.
00:09:01And these, in the hardness of your hearts, you have made known to the women.
00:09:06And through these mysteries, women and men, work much evil on earth.
00:09:12Say to them, therefore, you have no peace.
00:09:18Okay.
00:09:20So, do we have questions?
00:09:21We'll probably get to it, but it seems I was confused about whether the giants or the evil spirits or the evil spirits are coming from the giants.
00:09:42The giants become evil spirits.
00:09:45Okay.
00:09:45That was, that was in one of the previous chapters.
00:09:53So, so does that mean that the giants become demons and are still.
00:10:00Yeah, essentially.
00:10:01Okay.
00:10:05And the fallen angels are demons, become demons.
00:10:11Right.
00:10:15But the giants are their children.
00:10:18Right.
00:10:20Because they begat with women.
00:10:21So, so, so this beginning is, you know.
00:10:37Enoch is.
00:10:39Enoch goes to rebuke the watchers.
00:10:42The watchers being these, these angels who had been assigned to watch over the earth and, and they fell.
00:10:51Um, and, uh, having fallen, they were imprisoned, um, by Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and so forth.
00:11:00Um, and then, and Gabriel, and, um, uh, they asked Enoch to write, to intercede, uh, for them, that they might be loosed from their bonds.
00:11:11Um, and this is God's, um, and God refuses to forgive them, uh, because they cast away his, they cast away, well, the fullness of, you know, the essence of their being, and rebelled against God.
00:11:31Um, and so, um, uh, uh, they shall never again ascend into heaven, um, and be in bondage on the earth, um, until the end of the world.
00:11:47Um, and they shall see the destruction of their sons, the giants, um, who shall fall by the sword.
00:11:54Um, um,
00:11:58um,
00:11:58um,
00:11:59it's interesting in the beginning where,
00:12:17uh, where, uh, where, when God first begins to speak to him, he says, uh, something along the lines of that, um,
00:12:27that a man comes essentially to intercede for them when they, it should be them who is,
00:12:34is interceding for men.
00:12:37Exactly.
00:12:38Exactly.
00:12:38Exactly.
00:12:47So God is pretty resolute.
00:13:04Then there's the vision of the two houses made of crystal.
00:13:09Um,
00:13:11I think the one seems like a,
00:13:13a house of, uh,
00:13:16evil.
00:13:17The first,
00:13:18and then,
00:13:19um,
00:13:20uh,
00:13:21in other words,
00:13:21and it's a bad replica of,
00:13:23of the greater,
00:13:24which is,
00:13:25which is the,
00:13:26which is the dwelling place of God.
00:13:29Um,
00:13:29and so it starts out,
00:13:33you know,
00:13:34um,
00:13:34uh,
00:13:36something immense and,
00:13:38and,
00:13:38and wonders built of crystals with,
00:13:41with fire and a tessellated floor and it's groundwork of crystal with the paths of the stars and lightnings.
00:13:47And the cherubim and their,
00:13:49their,
00:13:49their heaven was water.
00:13:51This is interesting.
00:13:53The heaven was water and a flaming fire surrounded the walls and he was able to enter.
00:14:00And it was hot,
00:14:01hot and cold,
00:14:03but no delight and,
00:14:05and it was covered with fear.
00:14:10And then he saw the second house,
00:14:12which is,
00:14:12which is the highest heaven,
00:14:14the house of God.
00:14:14uh,
00:14:17uh,
00:14:18respect.
00:14:18It's so excelled in splendor and magnificence and extent that he cannot describe its,
00:14:23its splendor.
00:14:26Um,
00:14:27the floor was a fire and the ceiling was a fire.
00:14:30Um,
00:14:31and there he saw a lofty throne,
00:14:34uh,
00:14:35appearing as crystal in the,
00:14:38the wheels is the shining sun.
00:14:40and there was the vision of the cherubim a little bit,
00:14:44a little bit different than some of the other,
00:14:46um,
00:14:47visions of the,
00:14:49of the throne of God.
00:14:52Um,
00:14:52and streams of fire came,
00:14:57came forth from the throne and God sat on it.
00:15:01Um,
00:15:02and his,
00:15:02his ring,
00:15:03it was like the sun.
00:15:05None of the angels could enter and behold his face.
00:15:09Um,
00:15:10uh,
00:15:10and none could dry,
00:15:22dry nigh to him.
00:15:28When God says to Enoch,
00:15:31uh,
00:15:36fear not approach.
00:15:37And God says to Enoch,
00:15:40you should intercede for men and not men for you.
00:15:44Or said to the watchers of heaven,
00:15:45you should intercede for men and not men for you.
00:15:49Wherefore have you left the high,
00:15:50holy and eternal heaven and lain with women,
00:15:52women and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to
00:15:56yourselves wives and done like the children of earth and begotten
00:15:59giants is just though.
00:16:00So he's indicting the,
00:16:02the watchers.
00:16:03Um,
00:16:10and though they were spiritual,
00:16:12the holy,
00:16:13spiritual,
00:16:13eternal beings,
00:16:15uh,
00:16:15they defiled themselves again.
00:16:18Um,
00:16:19and have lusted after flesh and blood is those who die and perish.
00:16:23But to human beings,
00:16:31I've given wives so that they might impregnate them,
00:16:34beget children by them that thus nothing may be wanting to them on
00:16:38earth.
00:16:38But you were formerly spiritual living the eternal life and immortal.
00:16:43And there's a,
00:16:44a Hebraism here in that these,
00:16:47um,
00:16:48you know,
00:16:48various lines and various things are repeated because all the,
00:16:53ultimately this was an oral teaching.
00:16:56And this,
00:16:57this was a mnemonic device.
00:17:01And here now the giants are produced from the spirits and flesh.
00:17:05In other words,
00:17:06from the union of the watchers and women shall be called evil spirits upon
00:17:11the earth.
00:17:11And on the earth shall be their dwelling.
00:17:13Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies because they're born from men
00:17:17and from the watchers is their beginning and primal origin.
00:17:21There shall be evil spirits on earth and evil spirits.
00:17:23So they'd be called the spirits of the giants,
00:17:26afflict,
00:17:26oppress,
00:17:27attack,
00:17:28uh,
00:17:28destroy,
00:17:29you battle and work destruction on earth and cause trouble.
00:17:34They take no food.
00:17:37And nevertheless,
00:17:37they're hungry and thirsty and cause offenses.
00:17:41In other words,
00:17:42this is a description of,
00:17:44of what the life of the evil spirits is.
00:17:48Um,
00:17:48and these spirits will rise up against the children of men and against the
00:17:51women because they have proceeded from them from the days of the
00:17:56slaughter and destruction and death of the giants from who's from the
00:18:00souls of whose flesh,
00:18:01the spirits having gone for,
00:18:03shall destroy without incurring judgment.
00:18:05Thus shall they destroy until the day of consummation.
00:18:08The great judgment in which a,
00:18:10the age shall be consummated over the watchers and the godless.
00:18:13The age shall be wholly consummated.
00:18:15And now as to the watchers who have sent thee to intercede for them,
00:18:18who had,
00:18:19uh,
00:18:20been a four time in heaven,
00:18:21say to them,
00:18:22you've been in heaven,
00:18:23but all the mysteries had not yet been revealed to you.
00:18:26And you knew worthless ones and these in the hardness of your hearts,
00:18:29you have made known to the women.
00:18:30And through these mysteries,
00:18:32women and men work much evil on the earth.
00:18:35In other words,
00:18:36he's talking about,
00:18:36um,
00:18:38all of these,
00:18:38uh,
00:18:39things like,
00:18:39um,
00:18:41uh,
00:18:41metallurgy and weapons and,
00:18:43uh,
00:18:44herbology and astrology and all the other things that,
00:18:48and jewelry and makeup and all of these things that were,
00:18:51um,
00:18:54uh,
00:18:54brought by the watchers.
00:18:57So.
00:18:58To summarize.
00:19:04Good question.
00:19:05Yeah.
00:19:06It,
00:19:06it keeps saying that the,
00:19:08uh,
00:19:08they took wives.
00:19:11Does this mean that this was actually through some sort of marriage ritual?
00:19:15No,
00:19:16it doesn't.
00:19:16No,
00:19:16they just,
00:19:17they,
00:19:18they took women and,
00:19:20uh,
00:19:22had sex with them.
00:19:23I mean,
00:19:26based on what God is saying here,
00:19:28it doesn't seem like even a marriage ritual would have saved them anyway.
00:19:32No,
00:19:33no,
00:19:33not at all.
00:19:35No.
00:19:36How,
00:19:36how do you do a marriage ritual for an angel?
00:19:38I have no idea.
00:19:40So.
00:19:48Okay.
00:19:48But the million dollar question is how does an angel impregnate a human when they are disembodied?
00:19:54Well,
00:19:55they obviously took bodies somehow.
00:19:57So is,
00:19:59could that be understood to have been like,
00:20:01like temple ritual where they possessed a human,
00:20:05another human,
00:20:06maybe there was temple prostitution or something like that was one of my questions.
00:20:11Well,
00:20:12remember this would have been before the flood.
00:20:19So.
00:20:21Yeah.
00:20:22Long before Abraham,
00:20:24Isaac,
00:20:24and Jacob,
00:20:25not to mention Moses and Aaron and so forth.
00:20:29Would there,
00:20:29would there have been still like worship rituals and sacrifices being offered?
00:20:34Or was that not yet a thing?
00:20:37We don't know.
00:20:39I don't think.
00:20:40I mean,
00:20:40there were obviously by the time of Noah,
00:20:43there were a sacrifice was offered.
00:20:47But.
00:20:50Sounds like people were too busy doing other things to worship God.
00:20:55I thought of a point,
00:21:03like remember that.
00:21:07I mean,
00:21:08angels did appear in,
00:21:09in the old Testament as,
00:21:13as people like.
00:21:15Some angels visited lot and.
00:21:20Right.
00:21:20in Sodom or Gomorrah and some angels also visited Abraham and Sarah.
00:21:27And I think had,
00:21:28had,
00:21:29had dinner with them.
00:21:30Right.
00:21:31So.
00:21:31I think.
00:21:33Angels probably can.
00:21:38At least a pair in flesh,
00:21:39if not have flesh.
00:21:41I guess they appear in flesh,
00:21:42but.
00:21:43Yeah.
00:21:44Well,
00:21:45and obviously it works.
00:21:47You know.
00:21:48Right.
00:21:50So I,
00:21:51I don't know.
00:21:52It's.
00:21:53I think it's easy to read things into this.
00:21:56From,
00:21:57you know,
00:21:57anachronisms from,
00:21:59from later time.
00:22:00I mean,
00:22:01this,
00:22:02these stories are probably 4,000 years old.
00:22:05This is very ancient material.
00:22:15So.
00:22:19But,
00:22:20you know,
00:22:20but this is,
00:22:21this is,
00:22:22you know,
00:22:22this is what underlies.
00:22:25Genesis.
00:22:27I would assume these stories.
00:22:30Among other things.
00:22:35Well,
00:22:43here it says in this first verse.
00:22:45Angels took and brought me to a place in which.
00:22:47Those who were there were like flaming fire.
00:22:50And when they wish they appeared as men.
00:22:53So evidently the angels could appear as men.
00:23:02But I think it's.
00:23:03Remember this is mythology.
00:23:07It's important not to reify it too much.
00:23:16So.
00:23:18What else?
00:23:19Anything else on five?
00:23:22I have one more quick question.
00:23:25Sure.
00:23:25And that,
00:23:25that is like,
00:23:27so if this.
00:23:29And again,
00:23:30maybe I'm being too logical about all of this,
00:23:33but when I was reading this through,
00:23:36I mean,
00:23:36and I've recently gone through some Greek mythology with my students,
00:23:41you know,
00:23:41I can't help but think that this sounds a lot like,
00:23:45you know,
00:23:47the,
00:23:48well,
00:23:48for instance,
00:23:49the angels that gave the,
00:23:51the knowledge to people like Hephaestus being the,
00:23:56the,
00:23:57you know,
00:23:58the God of weaponry and metallurgy and things like that.
00:24:01Like he was the one who forged the fires and was the black,
00:24:05the blacksmith.
00:24:06And then you have the others that,
00:24:08you know,
00:24:08that the,
00:24:09the great men of renown as the,
00:24:11the great Greek heroes that,
00:24:13that the stories are written about.
00:24:15Could those have been the actual,
00:24:18like working out of in a different place in the world of these kinds of
00:24:24things.
00:24:30Um,
00:24:31I hesitate to materialize this.
00:24:36Okay.
00:24:37And I go back,
00:24:42I go back to the part that says,
00:24:45uh,
00:24:46that they took wise unto themselves and everyone respectively chose one woman for
00:24:52himself.
00:24:53And they began to go unto them.
00:24:56They taught them.
00:24:57And this,
00:24:57I think from,
00:24:58from last week,
00:24:59they taught them magical medicine,
00:25:02incantations,
00:25:03the cutting of roots,
00:25:04taught them about plants and the woman,
00:25:07the women became pregnant,
00:25:08gave birth to great giants whose heights were 300 cubits.
00:25:16Now I'm not saying these are brontosauruses,
00:25:19but that's about the size that this is talking about.
00:25:22These are very large.
00:25:23And these giants consume the produce of all the people until the people
00:25:30detested feeding them.
00:25:31So the giants turned against the people in order to eat,
00:25:34eat them.
00:25:36And they began to sin against birds,
00:25:39wild beasts,
00:25:40reptiles,
00:25:40and fish.
00:25:41And their flesh was devoured the one by the other.
00:25:46And they drank blood.
00:25:50Yep.
00:25:53Yeah.
00:25:56I,
00:25:56I,
00:25:56um,
00:25:59I think,
00:25:59I think it's better to look at this.
00:26:01this is obviously,
00:26:03this is not empirical history.
00:26:07Um,
00:26:08but it's,
00:26:12um,
00:26:13the,
00:26:16and there,
00:26:16but then there are layers of meaning here.
00:26:20What those are,
00:26:21um,
00:26:23I'm not sure I,
00:26:26you know,
00:26:27on one hand it,
00:26:28it,
00:26:29it appears to be a kind of empirical history.
00:26:35Um,
00:26:35but,
00:26:38but it's the language of mythology.
00:26:40So that,
00:26:41um,
00:26:41I don't think empirical history is the way to,
00:26:45to understand it or to try and conceive of it in a materialist way.
00:26:53One more comment on that,
00:26:58about history versus mythology.
00:27:01Uh,
00:27:02a thought that continues to interest me is that the whole idea of giants is a very widely held,
00:27:12uh,
00:27:13mythology across cultures,
00:27:16across peoples,
00:27:17across continents.
00:27:19Uh,
00:27:19it appears just lots and lots of different places.
00:27:22And of course it appears here as well.
00:27:25And,
00:27:25uh,
00:27:27I,
00:27:28I asked Google whether anybody historically has ever found evidence of giants.
00:27:34And the answer is no.
00:27:36So that,
00:27:37that to me is an interesting,
00:27:38you know,
00:27:39contradiction that despite the fact that the mythology is so wide,
00:27:45widely spread,
00:27:47the,
00:27:47uh,
00:27:48the anthropology or the history doesn't seem to back it up.
00:27:53Well,
00:27:53yeah,
00:27:54especially giants,
00:27:56450 feet tall.
00:27:59Um,
00:28:00uh,
00:28:02but quite frankly,
00:28:04I mean,
00:28:04just look on the internet.
00:28:05I mean,
00:28:06you,
00:28:06you've got all these stories of,
00:28:07you know,
00:28:08giant skeletons being found and all of this stuff.
00:28:12And undoubtedly there's something there because it's,
00:28:16it's,
00:28:17it's all over the world and maybe,
00:28:19you know,
00:28:19maybe there were some,
00:28:20you know,
00:28:21very,
00:28:22very big humans at one time,
00:28:24but,
00:28:26uh,
00:28:27yeah,
00:28:27I see Meg has,
00:28:29uh,
00:28:30put a,
00:28:30put something in the chat about that as well.
00:28:32I think.
00:28:32Uh,
00:28:33uh,
00:28:33uh,
00:28:34let's see.
00:28:44All right.
00:28:45Somebody want to read chapter six?
00:28:47I can read.
00:28:52Okay.
00:28:54Angels took and brought me to a place in which those who were there were like flaming fire.
00:29:00And when they wish they appeared as men.
00:29:01And they brought me to the place of darkness and to a mountain,
00:29:05the point of whose summit reached to heaven.
00:29:08And I saw the places of the luminaries and the treasuries of the stars and of the thunder.
00:29:13And in the uttermost depths,
00:29:15whether where a fiery bow and arrows and their quiver and a fiery sword and all the lightnings.
00:29:21And they took me to the living waters and to the fire of the West,
00:29:25which receives every setting of the sun.
00:29:28And I came to a river of fire,
00:29:30which in which the fire flows like water and discharges itself into the great sea towards the West.
00:29:37I saw the great rivers and came to the great river and to the great darkness
00:29:41and went to the place where no flesh walks.
00:29:45I saw the mountains of the darkness of winter and the place whence all the waters of the deep flow.
00:29:51I saw the mouths of all the rivers and the earth and the mouth of the deep.
00:29:56I saw the treasuries of all the winds.
00:29:58I saw how he had furnished with them the whole creation and the firm foundations of the earth.
00:30:05And I saw the cornerstone of the earth.
00:30:07I saw the four winds which bear the firmament of the heaven.
00:30:11And I saw how the winds stretch out the vaults of heaven and have their station between heaven and earth.
00:30:16These are the pillars of the heaven.
00:30:18I saw the winds of heaven which turn and bring the circumference of the sun and all the stars to their setting.
00:30:31I saw the winds on the earth carrying the clouds.
00:30:36I saw the paths of the angels.
00:30:38I saw at the end of the earth the firmament of the heaven above.
00:30:42And I proceeded and saw a place which burns day and night where there are seven mountains of magnificent stones.
00:30:49Three towards the east and three towards the south.
00:30:52And as far as for those towards the east one was of colored stone and one of pearl and one of Jason and those toward the south of red stone.
00:31:03But the middle one reached to heaven like the throne of God of alabaster and the summit of the throne was of sapphire.
00:31:10And I saw a flaming fire and beyond these mountains is a region the end of the great earth.
00:31:17There the heavens were completed and I saw a deep abyss with columns of heavenly fire.
00:31:23And among them I saw columns of fire fall which were beyond measure alike toward the height and towards the depth.
00:31:30Above and beyond that abyss I saw a place which had no firmament of the heaven above and no firmly founded earth beneath it.
00:31:40There was no water upon it and no birds.
00:31:45Excuse my dogs.
00:31:46But it was a waste and a horrible place.
00:31:49I saw there seven stars like great burning mountains.
00:31:52And to me when I inquired regarding them the angel said.
00:32:00This place is the end of heaven and earth.
00:32:02This has become a prison for the stars and the host of heaven.
00:32:06And the stars which roll over the fire are they which have transgressed the commandment of the Lord in the beginning of their rising because they did not come forth at their appointed times.
00:32:16And he was wroth with them and bound them until their time until the time when their guilt should be consummated for 10,000 years.
00:32:24And Uriel said to me here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women and their spirits assuming many different forms or defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods.
00:32:37Here shall they stand till the day of the great judgment in which they shall be judged till they are made an end of and the women also of the angels who went astray shall become sirens.
00:32:49And I, Enoch, alone saw this vision and the ends of all things and no man shall see as I have seen.
00:32:57Okay, so this is like a preview or prologue to the next major section of the book of Enoch,
00:33:16in which is in which is in which is a tour of the heavenly places and and of the and of where this the fountain of the the rivers and the and where the waters and the snow and the ice are stored and and all of all of these things and all the various parts of parts of the earth and of the heavens.
00:33:39And of course, it presumes a whole certain cosmology and just very different than how we than how we look at things.
00:33:56But, you know, this is, as I said, this is thousands of years old.
00:34:00And, but what I don't know, this is pure conjecture on my part, but but some of this is like I would imagine is how the what what the priests who are just beginning to be priests were taught about the.
00:34:30About the cosmos and the newly elected and initiated, ordained high priest, who saw the whole creation spread out before him, either in a mystical vision or.
00:34:47Somehow on the on the curtain of the temple and.
00:34:50And, and all of this.
00:34:58And it, you know, it essentially explains.
00:35:05Where things are now.
00:35:09Remember in the book of Job.
00:35:10Um, starting with chapter 38.
00:35:15Um, where God, uh, says to, uh, says to Job.
00:35:20Essentially, who do you think you are that you can understand how I created the heavens and the earth?
00:35:27Where were, where were you when I created the heavens and the earth?
00:35:30Um, it's something, a mystery to far profound, but, and we'll see this later on.
00:35:36Um, uh, well, let me grab the.
00:35:45Um.
00:35:47Okay.
00:36:48And you'll see later on when we get into the next section where there's a parallel here.
00:37:00So, this is Job 38.
00:37:05Amen.
00:37:06After Elihu had ceased from speaking,
00:37:45in a single loud voice.
00:37:46I shut up the sea with doors, and when it burst forth and issued from the womb,
00:37:50I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in mist.
00:37:53I fixed my limit for it and set bars and doors.
00:37:57And I said, this far you may come, but no further, and here your waves must stop.
00:38:01Did I order the morning light in your time, and did the morning star see its appointed place
00:38:05to lay hold of the ends of the earth and to shake the ungodly out of it?
00:38:09Or did you take clay of the ground and form a living creature
00:38:12and set it upon the power of speech, with the power of speech upon the earth?
00:38:17Had you removed light from the ungodly and crushed the arm of the arrogant?
00:38:20Have you come upon the fountain of the sea and walked in the tracks of the deep?
00:38:26Did the gates of death open to you for fear?
00:38:29And did the doorkeepers of Hades quake when they saw you?
00:38:32Have you been instructed in the breadth of the earth under heaven?
00:38:36Tell me now, what is the extent of it?
00:38:38What kind of land does the light dwell in?
00:38:40What kind is the place of darkness?
00:38:44If you would bring me to their boundaries, and also you understand their paths,
00:38:47then I know you were born at that time, and the number of your years is great.
00:38:52Have you come upon the storehouses of snow?
00:38:54Have you seen the storehouses of hail?
00:38:57Are they stored for you against the time of your enemies,
00:38:59for the day of wars and battles?
00:39:01From where does the frost proceed?
00:39:03Or from where does the south wind scatter over the earth?
00:39:07You see the resemblance?
00:39:11In other words, it's the same tradition.
00:39:17And it would be a very interesting study to compare Job and Enoch.
00:39:26And, you know, the whole cosmology, which goes on for another page,
00:39:41is basically the same.
00:39:47You know, I mean, changing the changeable.
00:39:49So, I think the big question is, what's the source?
00:40:03Was Enoch the source that inspired Job?
00:40:06Or was Job what inspired Enoch?
00:40:08Similar question regarding Genesis.
00:40:21Is Genesis prior to Enoch, or vice versa?
00:40:25Or do we know?
00:40:28When it was written?
00:40:31Yes.
00:40:31I mean, if you want to go strictly by the tradition,
00:40:35Moses wrote Genesis, Exodus, you know, the Torah.
00:40:41But if you go by the same tradition,
00:40:46Enoch was written by the seventh from Adam.
00:40:50It was way, way thousands of years before Moses.
00:40:57What I find fascinating is that the cosmology of Genesis actually is very structured
00:41:07and, you know, fairly consistent with what we know about cosmology today,
00:41:13as opposed to Enoch, which is much more chaotic.
00:41:16Right.
00:41:19Right, yeah.
00:41:20You know, maybe it's saying it similar to what you were saying.
00:41:30But as we're reading Enoch, you know, in reference to Job 38,
00:41:39Enoch, he's saying, I saw these things.
00:41:42Whereas Job is being asked by God, you know, were you there to see this?
00:41:50It is a very interesting contrast.
00:41:56Yeah.
00:42:00Basically, though, it's the same tradition.
00:42:08The same kind of ideas, same kind of form.
00:42:11Alice, it's interesting what you mentioned, that Enoch is more chaotic,
00:42:21but Genesis is a more organized form or more organized.
00:42:27So maybe Enoch precedes Genesis.
00:42:29You know, and that doesn't mean the whole book precedes Genesis.
00:42:36It means these traditions that are written down.
00:42:39Because you've got to remember that all these ancient texts
00:42:43first were part of oral, completely oral tradition,
00:42:49and only later were written down.
00:42:51It's a...
00:43:19Though with Enoch, you have a very kind of...
00:43:27I don't think it's very...
00:43:32It's all these different compartments, you know.
00:43:37You have the rivers, and then you have the winds,
00:43:41and then you have the cornerstone of the earth,
00:43:44and, you know, all the various natural phenomena.
00:43:58And then this is interesting in 12.
00:44:00I saw the winds on the earth carrying the clouds.
00:44:03I saw the paths of the angels.
00:44:18There's a fascinating YouTube video of the book of Enoch that was made.
00:44:25And it's all done with AI, I think.
00:44:32But it's quite amazing.
00:44:35You know, it gives form to a lot of these verbal, conceptual images.
00:44:44But this is only a kind of a preview,
00:44:54and he goes into much greater detail later on in the book.
00:44:58Now, one of the things that's, I think, important
00:45:08is that all of these things are animate.
00:45:13They have souls, or they are angels.
00:45:19Animate means in souls.
00:45:21They have souls.
00:45:27So the stars and the sun and the moon and the host of heaven,
00:45:35these are all animate beings that, you know,
00:45:37some of whom land in prison because they transgressed.
00:45:40And this was one of the essential elements of ancient paganism.
00:45:52That all of the whole creation was animate.
00:45:57That it had souls.
00:45:59It had spirits.
00:46:00It had.
00:46:01And then there were also demons.
00:46:03May I ask another question about that?
00:46:20So if the stars, let's just say the stars in general,
00:46:25all were considered to be in-souled or to be spirits,
00:46:33or there was a spirit assigned to that star.
00:46:39But now, in our materialist way of thinking,
00:46:44we look at them as gaseous orbs, right?
00:46:48Like they are balls of gas and flaming in the atmosphere,
00:46:52and not in the atmosphere, in space.
00:46:55So, but the thing is, is that didn't change.
00:47:01We changed.
00:47:03So is it still correct to assume that there is,
00:47:08with each star, an in-souled angel or spirit assigned to
00:47:14or associated with that particular heavenly body?
00:47:18No, that was condemned as a heresy early on.
00:47:21Living beings have souls.
00:47:31And human beings have, and angels are noetic beings.
00:47:42But, you know, earlier on, I mean, they didn't have,
00:47:45they didn't have quite the same kind of distinctions that we have now.
00:47:51So, you know, gods and angels were kind of more or less the same thing.
00:47:58It's on that 18th line in chapter six.
00:48:18What's that?
00:48:19Are there any notes on that 18th line, chapter six here?
00:48:23No, no, no, there aren't notes in this.
00:48:29At least I haven't seen notes or I haven't seen an annotated version of Enoch.
00:48:40That would be a good project.
00:48:41I have a version that's got some annotation to it.
00:48:54Oh, okay.
00:48:57Which, by the way, it does reference that Job 38.
00:49:03Uh-huh.
00:49:04You know, and Job 36, 37.
00:49:09So, there's a lot of good references here.
00:49:12Huh.
00:49:14What version is that?
00:49:16Uh, well, the, it's, it's, um,
00:49:21volume one from James H. Charlesworth,
00:49:24the Old Testament's, uh,
00:49:28pseudepigraphic.
00:49:28And it's got, it's got all three versions of Enoch in it.
00:49:34Uh-huh.
00:49:35Um,
00:49:36which none of them are, are, you know,
00:49:41completely, uh, uh,
00:49:43uh, in line with, uh, with the version that we're reading.
00:49:48But, you know,
00:49:51but a lot of interesting notes associated with it.
00:49:54Uh-huh.
00:49:55Footnotes and, uh,
00:49:57and annotations and, and so on.
00:50:03Hmm.
00:50:10Well, when you,
00:50:11when you come by tomorrow, bring, bring that.
00:50:14I'd like to see it.
00:50:15Yeah.
00:50:16I'll do that.
00:50:17Okay.
00:50:17Okay.
00:50:18So shall we move on to chapter seven?
00:50:32Yes.
00:50:33Who wants to read?
00:50:42I'll go ahead and read.
00:50:43Okay.
00:50:44Again.
00:50:45Um,
00:50:46and these are the names of the holy angels who watch mankind.
00:50:53Uriel,
00:50:54one of the holy angels who is over the world and over Tartarus.
00:50:59Raphael,
00:51:00one of the holy angels who is over the spirits of men.
00:51:05Rag, uh,
00:51:05Raguel,
00:51:06one of the holy angels who takes vengeance on the,
00:51:10say again.
00:51:11Say again.
00:51:13Raguel,
00:51:14one of the holy angels who takes vengeance on the world of the luminaries.
00:51:19Michael,
00:51:20one of the holy angels to wit.
00:51:22He that is set over the best part of mankind and over chaos.
00:51:26Sarek,
00:51:28one of the holy angels who is set over the spirits who sin in the spirit.
00:51:36Gabriel,
00:51:36one of the holy angels who is over paradise and the serpents and the cherubim.
00:51:41Ramiel,
00:51:43one of the holy angels whom God set over those who rise.
00:51:48And I proceeded to where things were chaotic.
00:51:52And I saw there something horrible.
00:51:54I saw neither a heaven above nor a firmly founded earth,
00:51:58but a place chaotic and horrible.
00:52:00And there I saw seven stars of the heaven bound together in it,
00:52:06like great mountains in the burning with fire.
00:52:09Then I said,
00:52:10for what sin are they bound?
00:52:13And on what account have they been cast in hither?
00:52:16Then said Uriel,
00:52:18one of the holy angels who was with me and was chief over them and said,
00:52:23Enoch,
00:52:24why does thou ask?
00:52:26And why art thou eager for the truth?
00:52:28These are the number of the stars of heaven,
00:52:31which have transgressed the commandments of the Lord and are bound here till 10,000 years.
00:52:39The time entailed by their sins are consummated.
00:52:43And from thence,
00:52:45I went to another place,
00:52:46which was still more horrible than the former and saw a horrible thing,
00:52:52a great fire there,
00:52:54which burnt and blazed.
00:52:55And the place was cleft as far as the abyss being full of great descending columns of fire.
00:53:02Neither its extent or magnitude could I see,
00:53:06nor can I conjecture.
00:53:08Then I said,
00:53:09how fearful is the place and how terrible to look upon.
00:53:14Then Uriel answered me,
00:53:16one of the holy angels who was with me and said unto me,
00:53:20Enoch,
00:53:20why has thou such fear and afraid?
00:53:23And I answered because of this fearful place,
00:53:27because of the spectacle of the pain.
00:53:29And he said unto me,
00:53:31the place is the prison of the angels and here they will be in prison forever.
00:53:36And thence I went to another place,
00:53:40the mountain of hard rock.
00:53:42And there was in it four hollow places,
00:53:45deep and wide and very smooth.
00:53:48How smooth are the hollow places and deep and dark to look at.
00:53:52Then Raphael answered,
00:53:54one of the holy angels who was with me and said upon,
00:53:58and said unto me,
00:53:59these hollow places have been created for this very purpose,
00:54:03that the spirits of the souls of the dead should assemble therein.
00:54:07Yea,
00:54:08that all the souls of the children of men shall assemble here.
00:54:12And these places have been made to receive them till the day of their judgment,
00:54:16until their appointed period,
00:54:18till the great judgment upon them.
00:54:20I saw a dead man making suit and his voice went forth to heaven and made suit.
00:54:28And I asked Raphael,
00:54:29the angel who was with me,
00:54:31and I said unto him,
00:54:32this spirit,
00:54:34which maketh suit,
00:54:35whose is it?
00:54:37Whose voice goes forth and make a suit to heaven?
00:54:41And he answered me saying,
00:54:43this is the spirit,
00:54:45which went forth from Abel,
00:54:47whom his brother Cain slew.
00:54:49And he makes a suit against him till his seed is destroyed from the face of the earth.
00:54:55And his seed is annihilated from amongst the seed of men.
00:55:00Then I asked regarding it and regarding all the hollow places.
00:55:04Why is one separate from the other?
00:55:07And he answered me and said unto me,
00:55:10these three have been made.
00:55:13These three have been made that the spirits of the dead might be separated.
00:55:17And such a division has been has been make for the spirits of the righteous in which there is a bright spring of water.
00:55:26And such has been made for sinners when they die and are buried in the earth.
00:55:31And judgment has not been executed on them in their lifetime.
00:55:35Here their spirits shall be set apart in this great pain till the great day of judgment and punishment and torment for those who curse forever and retribution for their spirits.
00:55:46There he shall bind them forever and such a division has been made for the spirits of those who make their suit who make disclosures concerning their destruction when they were slain in the days of the sinners.
00:56:02Such has been made for the spirits of men who were not righteous, but sinners who were complete in transgression and of the transgressors.
00:56:11They shall be companions, but their spirits shall not be slain on the day of judgment, nor shall they be raised from thence.
00:56:20The I bless the Lord of glory and said, blessed be my Lord, the Lord of righteousness who ruleth forever from thence.
00:56:32I went to another place to the west of the ends of the earth, and I saw a burning fire which ran without resting and paused not from its course day or night, but regularly.
00:56:44And I asked, saying, what is this which rests not?
00:56:50Then Raguel said of the holy angels who was with me, answer me and said unto me, this course of fire, which thou has seen as the fire in the west,
00:57:01which persecutes all the luminaries of heaven, and from thence I went to another place of the earth, and he showed me a mountain range of fire which burnt day and night.
00:57:15And I went beyond it and saw seven magnificent mountains, all differing each from the other, and the stones were magnificent and beautiful.
00:57:23Magnificent as a whole of glorious appearance and fair and fair exterior, three towards the east, one founded on the other, and three towards the south, one upon the other,
00:57:40and deep rough ravines, no one of which joined with any other.
00:57:46And the seventh mountain was in the midst of these, and it excelled them in height resembling the seat of a throne, and fragrant trees encircled the throne.
00:57:57And amongst them was a tree such as I had never yet smelt, neither was any amongst them, nor were others like it.
00:58:07It had a fragrance beyond all fragrance, and its leaves and blooms and wood wither not forever, and its fruit is beautiful, and its fruit resembles the dates of the palm, of a palm.
00:58:22Then I said, how beautiful is this tree, and fragrant, and its leaves are fair, and its blooms very delightful in appearance.
00:58:31Then answered Michael, one of the holy, and honored angels who was with me, and was their leader.
00:58:39And he said unto me, Enoch, why dost thou ask me regarding the fragrance of the tree, and why dost thou wish to learn the truth?
00:58:49Then I answered him, saying, I wish to know about everything, but especially about this tree.
00:58:56And he answered, saying, This high mountain, which thou hast seen, whose summit is like the throne of God, is his throne, where the holy, great one, the Lord of glory, the eternal King, will sit, when he shall come down to visit the earth with goodness.
00:59:14And as for his fragrant tree, no mortal is permitted, to touch it, till the great judgment.
00:59:22Then he shall take vengeance on all, and bring to its consummation forever.
00:59:27It shall then be given to the righteous, and the holy.
00:59:31Its fruit shall be for food to the elect.
00:59:34It shall be transplanted to the holy place, to the temple of the Lord, the eternal King.
00:59:40Then shall they rejoice with joy, and be glad, and unto the holy place shall they enter, and its fragrance shall be in their bones, and they shall live a long life on earth, such as thy fathers lived.
00:59:55And in their days shall no sorrow, or plague, or torment, or calamity touch them.
01:00:00Then, blessed I, the God of glory, the eternal King, who has prepared such things for the righteous, and hath created them, and promised to give to them.
01:00:13And I went from thence to the middle of the earth, and I saw a blessed place, in which there were trees with branches abiding and blooming.
01:00:22And there I saw a holy mountain, and underneath the mountain to the east, there was a stream, and it flowed towards the south.
01:00:30And I saw towards the east another mountain higher than this, and between them a deep and narrow ravine, and it also ran a stream underneath the mountain.
01:00:41And to the west thereof there was another mountain, lower than the former, and of small elevation, and a ravine deep and dry between them.
01:00:51And another deep and dry ravine was at the extremities of the three mountains.
01:00:57And all the ravines were deep and narrow, of hard rock, and trees were not planted upon them.
01:01:04And I marveled at the rocks, and I marveled at the ravine.
01:01:08Yea, I marveled very much.
01:01:10Then I said, For what object is this blessed land, which is entirely filled with trees, in this accursed valley between?
01:01:20Then Uriel, one of the holy angels who was with me, answered and said,
01:01:25This accursed valley is for those who are accursed forever.
01:01:29Here shall all the accursed be gathered together, who utter with their lips against the Lord unseemly words, and of his glory speak hard things.
01:01:39There shall they be gathered together, and here shall be their place of judgment.
01:01:47In the last days there shall be upon them the spectacle of righteous judgment, in the presence of the righteous forever.
01:01:54Here shall the merciful bless the Lord of glory, the eternal King.
01:02:00In the days of judgment over the former, they shall bless him for the mercy in accordance with which he has assigned them.
01:02:10Then I blessed the Lord of glory, and set forth his glory, and lauded him generously.
01:02:15And hence I went towards the east, and in the midst of the mountain range of the desert, and I saw a wilderness, and it was solitary, full of trees and plants, and water gushed forth from above, rushing like a copious water course towards the north-west.
01:02:35It caused clouds and dew to ascend on every side, and thence I went to another place in a desert, and approached to the east of this mountain range, and there I saw aromatic trees, exhaling the fragrance of frankincense and myrrh, and the trees also were similar to the almond tree.
01:02:54And beyond these I went afar to the east, and I saw another place, and therein there was a tree, a color of fragrant trees such as the mastic, and on the sides of those valleys I saw fragrant cinnamon, and beyond these I proceeded to the east.
01:03:12And I saw other mountains, and amongst them were groves of trees, and there flowed forth from them nectar, which is named Sarara and Galabanum, and which and beyond these mountains I saw another mountain to the east of the ends of the earth, wherein were aloe trees, and all the trees were full of stacti, being like almond trees.
01:03:41And when one burnt it, it smelled sweeter than any fragrant odor.
01:03:47And after these fragrant odors, as I looked towards the north over the mountains, I saw seven mountains full of choice, nard, and fragrant trees, and cinnamon, and pepper.
01:03:57And thence I went over the summits of all these mountains, far towards the east of the earth, and passed above the Rathraean Sea, and went far from it, and passed over the angel Zatio.
01:04:17And I came to the garden of righteousness, and from afar off I saw numerous trees, and these great two trees, they're very great, beautiful, and glorious, and magnificent, and the tree of knowledge, whose holy fruit they eat and know great wisdom.
01:04:35That tree is in height like the strangler fig, and its leaves are like the carob tree, and its fruit is like the cluster of the vine, very beautiful, and the fragrance of the tree penetrates afar.
01:04:51Then I said, How beautiful is the tree, and how attractive is its look?
01:04:57Then Raphael, the holy angel, who was with me, answered and said, This is the tree of wisdom, of which thy father, old, and the aged mother, who were before thee, had eaten.
01:05:10And they learned wisdom, and their eyes were opened, and they knew that they were naked, and they were driven out of the garden.
01:05:19And from thence I went to the ends of the earth, and saw their great beasts, and each differed from the other, and birds also differing in appearance, and beauty, and voice, and one differing from the other.
01:05:32And to the east of those beasts, I saw the ends of the earth, wherein the heavens rest, and the portals of heaven opened, and I saw how the stars of heaven come forth, and I counted the portals out of which they proceeded, and wrote down all their outlets of each individual star by itself, according to their number, and their names, their courses, and their positions, and their times, and their months.
01:06:01As Uriel, the holy angel, who was with me, showed me, he showed me all things to me, and wrote them down for me, also their names he wrote for me, and their laws, and their companies.
01:06:15And from thence I went towards the north, to the ends of the earth, and there I saw, great and glorious device, the ends of the whole earth.
01:06:24And here I saw three portals of heaven, open in the heaven.
01:06:31Though each of them proceeds north winds, when they blow, there is cold, hail, frost, snow, dew, and rain.
01:06:40And out of one portal they blow for good, but when they blow through the other two portals, it is with violence and affliction on the earth, and they blow with violence.
01:06:49And from thence I went towards the west, to the ends of the earth, and saw their three portals of the heaven open, such as I had seen in the east, the same number of portals, and the same number of outlets.
01:07:03And from thence I went to the south ends of the earth, and saw their three open portals of heaven, and thence they come, dew, rain, and wind.
01:07:13And from thence I went to the east, to the ends of heaven, and saw there the three eastern portals of heaven open, and small portals above them.
01:07:26Through each of these small portals pass the stars of heaven, and run their course to the west on the path which is shown to them.
01:07:34And as often as I saw, I blessed always the Lord of glory, and I continued to bless the Lord of glory, who was wrought great, who has wrought great and glorious wonders,
01:07:47to show the greatness of his work to the angels, and to the spirits, and to men, that they might praise his works, and all his creation,
01:07:56that they might see the work of his might, and praise the great work of his hands, and bless him forever.
01:08:04See, I told you there were some longer ones.
01:08:08No, but that was good. That was very good. I liked it.
01:08:11Well, it's magnificent. I mean, what a vision, you know?
01:08:15I know.
01:08:22So you notice in the Old Testament, there's no enumeration of the angels like this.
01:08:28And part of that is because the Sadducees, who were the ones in charge of the temple, did not believe in angels.
01:08:39And so it's surmised that there was much more in the original recensions that became Genesis about the angels, which were deleted.
01:08:54Remember, rabbinic Judaism synthesized, not only the religion of the Pharisees, but also of the Sadducees.
01:09:10And so they had a, and who were also the scribes.
01:09:17And they had, so, you know, a lot of this kind of material is not found in the Old Testament.
01:09:26Although Michael certainly makes an appearance.
01:09:29Gabriel makes an appearance.
01:09:30I think Raphael makes an appearance in the Old Testament.
01:09:36Not sure.
01:09:40I'm not sure about the rest.
01:09:43But it's not, it's not systematic.
01:09:45And they're, in other parallel literature from this time, it has, they do have the system of the angels, or a systematic approach to the explanation of the angels.
01:10:02And so, and, you know, this is, this chapter is an overall picture of heaven and hell.
01:10:16You know, and, and the place where the, where, where the, where the, the seven stars are bound.
01:10:32And, and, and then the prison of the angels.
01:10:48And then the places, places for the souls.
01:10:52And some for the souls of the righteous.
01:10:54And then, um, you see, is, uh, the spirit of Abel, who is, who is, uh, uh, making suit.
01:11:04In other words, um, demanding justice.
01:11:08Um.
01:11:15And, and here it's, it's interesting.
01:11:18You know, this is, this is not exactly your classic picture of Sheol.
01:11:22Um, uh, with these divisions of the, of the souls, um, uh, that the righteous are in one place.
01:11:34And, um, but then there are, uh, places for sinners.
01:11:38Um, uh, those who are buried in the earth, but not, but judgment has not been executed on them in their lifetime.
01:11:45Now, we can say that judges, judgment is executed upon us in our lifetime because of confession.
01:11:55We, we, uh, we confess our sins, which is a, a type and a, um, foretaste of, of the last judgment.
01:12:05Um.
01:12:06Um, so you've got the righteous, you've got, um, um, um, those who were, um, uh, not judged.
01:12:23Uh, and then you have, uh, have the sinners who were complete in their transgressions.
01:12:29Uh, and then you, uh, and then you see, he's, he sees the burning fire, which ran without resting and pause not from its course.
01:12:57And he asked, what, what is this, this course of fire, which I was seeing is the fire of the West, which persecutes all the luminaries of heaven.
01:13:11And, um, and mountains burning, um, burning with fire, which I think is, is an image of, of the glory of God.
01:13:22Um, um, um, the seven mountains, three to the east, um, uh, one in the center and, and three to the south.
01:13:33Um, and the seventh mountain in the midst, the one in the middle, um, excelled them all with rising to a great height, um, with, uh, as the throne of God with fragrant trees encircling it.
01:13:49Um, um, it talks about the beauty of the beauty of the trees and, and, and, and, and its fragrance.
01:14:00Um, so Michael tells, ask him, why do you want to know about all this stuff?
01:14:07Um, and he says, I wish to know about everything, especially the tree.
01:14:12And he said, this high mountain, which thou hast seen, whose summit is like the throne of God, is his throne, where the Holy Great One, the Lord of Glory, the Eternal King, will sit when he comes to judge, uh, comes down to visit the earth with goodness.
01:14:25As for this fragrant tree, no mortal is permitted to touch it, till the Great Judgment, when he shall take vengeance in all and bring to its consummation forever.
01:14:36Shall then be given to the righteous and holy.
01:14:39Its fruit shall be food for the elect.
01:14:41Shall be transplanted to the holy place, to the temple of the Lord, the Eternal King.
01:14:45In other words, this is the tree of life.
01:14:47And there's, remember, there are two trees.
01:14:52There's the tree of knowledge of good and evil, or the tree of wisdom, and then the tree of life.
01:15:06And these are what was prepared for the righteous.
01:15:08And then, so,
01:15:28So there's this contrast between a land that is filled with trees and with fragrance and beauty and then with very deep ravines.
01:15:54And then so Enoch asks, what object is this blessed land, which is filled entirely with trees and this accursed valley below?
01:16:10Then Uriel answers, this accursed valley is for those who are cursed forever.
01:16:18Here shall all the accursed be gathered together who utter with their lips against the Lord unseemly words and of his glory speaking, speak hard things.
01:16:27Here shall they be gathered together and here shall be their place of judgment.
01:16:30Here in the last days there shall be upon them the spectacle of righteous judgment in the presence of the righteous forever.
01:16:43Here shall the merciful bless the Lord of glory, the eternal King.
01:16:46The day of judgment over the former, they shall bless him for the mercy in accordance with which he has assigned them.
01:16:53Now you can imagine that this was written in the desert, you know, in these horrible ravines of rocks and great depths.
01:17:17And what is paradise?
01:17:21It's a grassy meadows full of trees which bear fruit and are fragrant.
01:17:27Then he went to the east in the midst of the mountain range of the desert and saw a wilderness.
01:17:41And it was solitary, full of trees and plants and water gushed forth from above, rushing like copious water course towards the northwest.
01:17:50It caused clouds and dew to ascend.
01:17:52And another place in the desert approach to the east of this mountain range with the aromatic trees exhaling for frankincense and myrrh and almond trees and cinnamon and other mountains.
01:18:06And at the very heart of this, far, far, far in the east, he came to the Garden of Righteousness, which is Eden.
01:18:25From afar off, he saw numerous trees.
01:18:28And these great two trees, they're very beautiful and glorious and magnificent.
01:18:32The tree of knowledge and the tree of life.
01:18:34And so Raphael, the holy angel, answered and said,
01:18:47This is the tree of wisdom, which the father of old and the aged mother who were before they have eaten.
01:18:53And they learned wisdom and their eyes were opened.
01:18:55They knew that they were naked and they were driven out of the garden.
01:18:58In other words, back to Adam and Eve.
01:19:00And then the great beasts.
01:19:12And to the north, the portals of heaven.
01:19:17So, I mean, it's...
01:19:18Just trying to map this out in your mind is quite a meditation.
01:19:28I did notice that when Raphael was...
01:19:34I think it was Raphael was talking about the tree there.
01:19:38That was all past tense.
01:19:40Uh-huh.
01:19:40That events, you know, by this time that Enoch's taking this vision.
01:19:47Maybe even, you know, by the time that these...
01:19:51Whatever.
01:19:52Giants.
01:19:55It's hard to tell exactly when, but it's definitely in past tense.
01:19:58Yeah.
01:20:00The fall of Adam and Eve.
01:20:02Yeah.
01:20:15So, what else?
01:20:19Those are comments, questions.
01:20:20Yes.
01:20:20Yes.
01:20:32Okay.
01:20:34So we'll get to book two next week.
01:20:38If I'm willing.
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