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00:00So, you untied your hands, then showed you out the car, and you were back where you started?

00:14Outside the pub.

00:16Which was closed?

00:17Yes.

00:18Not having much luck, are you?

00:23The Recall Man, taken by surprise, by David Napfine.

00:27With Jeremy Swift as Dr Joe Aston.

00:32What the hell were you playing at?

00:34I was trying to make him feel at home.

00:35He's our best chance, Jeff. One significant detail from Bill, and we can catch the people who abducted him.

00:40So, no tricks, no fancy stuff. Is that clear?

00:42Yes, ma'am.

00:43Good.

00:44Joe?

00:45What?

00:46Over here.

00:47I was just grabbing a coffee before I went...

00:49Do that later.

00:50Jeff, you go to the pub and take Hopkins with you.

00:53But she's working on the burglary.

00:54Not anymore.

00:55And I'm supposed to be seeing...

00:56All right. I'm on my way, ma'am.

00:59What's happened, then?

01:00The kidnapping.

01:01There's been a development.

01:02The victim, Bill Pierce, has been returned.

01:05So they paid the ransom.

01:06Against our advice.

01:08Perhaps it doesn't look good for a finance company to have one of their advisors lifted from the streets.

01:13We need your help, Joe.

01:15But I'm working on an assault case, preparing lectures for those two...

01:17We need to interview Bill to get details of the car, where he was kept, the appearance of his kidnappers, so on.

01:23Don't get me wrong, Anne, but isn't that what you and Jeff do?

01:26Unless, of course, Bill's suffering from some sort of amnesia.

01:28Bill's return is a breakthrough, Joe, and by all we need one.

01:31With your techniques, we'll be able to get those details quicker, leaving the rest of the team to follow up on what you give us.

01:37It's the most effective use of time and manpower.

01:40Is it?

01:41Yes.

01:42If I was to say that the best team...

01:43You'd be wrong.

01:45All right, Anne.

01:46What can you tell me?

01:48Thanks, Joe.

01:49What do you know?

01:50Well, only what I've heard in the canteen, and that might prejudice my ability to work with Bill.

01:54You're a professional, Joe.

01:55It'll be fine.

01:57Bill was taken last Thursday night from the car park at the Cross Swords pub, and returned there in the early hours of this morning.

02:03He's seen the doctor, and he appears remarkably well, but despite a first interview with Jeff,

02:08we still have no idea who took him and where he was kept.

02:12Come and see me as soon as the interview's finished.

02:15Hi.

02:18Coffee.

02:25So what makes you different, then?

02:27Don't misunderstand me.

02:29I've already talked to the police.

02:31I specialise in recall, Mr. Pearce.

02:33I'm here to help you remember the details of what...

02:35I haven't lost my memory.

02:36Let me explain.

02:39Throughout the ordeal, you will have noticed a great many things, and if I can help...

02:43They pulled sacking over my head, wore balaclavas, and kept me in virtual darkness.

02:48But your brain will have registered more than you realise, and stored that information in the memory.

02:54Now, we need to access as much as we can, and establish the meaning of what it is that you do remember,

02:59to reconstruct what happened.

03:01I see.

03:04Now, Mr. Pearce, I'd like your permission to record this interview.

03:08Fine.

03:09You can call me Bill, you know.

03:11That's what my clients do.

03:12Thank you, Bill.

03:13The recording is for my benefit, rather than evidence.

03:16Fine.

03:19Interview at 11.30am on the 13th of February.

03:22Present are Dr. Joe Aston and Mr. William Pearce.

03:26Mr. Pearce, have you agreed to this interview being taped?

03:29I have.

03:30Thank you, Bill.

03:32I'd like you to tell me what you remember about the abduction.

03:35But I've already...

03:37I ordered the taxi in the pub.

03:42I finished my drink and stood outside.

03:45I'd had a bit too much, you see, and I wanted some fresh air.

03:48Right.

03:49Anyway, I'd been waiting a bit.

03:51When the car pulled in, I walked towards it, thinking it was the taxi,

03:55and I was hit from behind.

03:57A sack was pulled over my head, and I was shoved in the car.

04:01Let's take it one step at a time, Bill.

04:03You're walking towards the car.

04:04That's right.

04:05Then the sack was over my head.

04:08No, I'm wrong.

04:10I was hit, and then the sack was over my head.

04:14More of a push, I suppose.

04:15A hard push from behind.

04:17I was a bit drunk, and they pinned my hands to my side like a vice.

04:23So you walked towards the car, and then...

04:25Thinking it was a taxi.

04:28The funny thing was, Joe, later I realised it didn't have a cab light.

04:32Like, some don't, do they?

04:34Have cab lights.

04:36You walked towards the car, I said, and I was pushed.

04:41My hands were pinned, and the sack pulled over my head.

04:45No, I'm wrong.

04:47The sack was pulled over my head, and my hands were pinned all at the same time.

04:52I think.

04:54Something like that.

04:55I get confused.

04:56That's perfectly understandable.

05:00That's fine for the press conference.

05:02I'm sure that now Mr. Pearce has been returned, we'll be able to make progress.

05:06Thank you, sir.

05:10As I was saying, Mum, the landlord was walking by Bill hammering on the pub door.

05:13He let him in and rang us immediately.

05:15He never saw the car, and he didn't hear anything.

05:18No eyewitness when he was taken, no eyewitness when he was returned.

05:21Bill might give us a description of the car.

05:24I've asked Joe to work with Bill to get descriptions.

05:26Has Bill lost his memory?

05:27No.

05:28So why is Joe in the view?

05:29Because I asked him to.

05:30To work as usual.

05:31Shall we concentrate on what we have to do?

05:34Any progress on Bill's clients who might hold grudges?

05:37Those we've seen don't seem like kidnappers.

05:39That one who lost a small fortune from following Bill's advice and tried to take the case to the FSA?

05:44He went to Tenerife ten days ago.

05:45Right.

05:46Tony Calderwood?

05:48Bill poached his clients, which at least indirectly led to Calderwood being made redundant.

05:52We don't know Bill's version of that, do we, Mum?

05:54Not yet.

05:55Any sighting of Calderwood?

05:56No.

05:56What the hell have we got to do to find him?

05:59Isn't this a professional job?

06:00I mean, what about that Leeds game?

06:02Well, similar M.O.

06:03Maybe that D.I. from Leeds could come back and interview Bill.

06:07Oh, for goodness sake.

06:10Yes.

06:12Yes, he's here, John.

06:14And I need him as well.

06:16As soon as he can.

06:18I don't know that, do I?

06:20It might all be done and dusted by lunchtime.

06:23Bye.

06:24I've got you, Jeff, and I'm keeping you.

06:26Only my girlfriend said that.

06:27What were you saying?

06:28Just that abductions take a lot of planning.

06:31And we know from Bill that there was more than one person involved.

06:34Someone getting a group of mates together?

06:36Like the missing Tony Calderwood or our friend in Tenerife?

06:39Hmm.

06:40We've got to look at every possibility and use everything we can, Jeff.

06:44That's why Joe's on board.

06:46We should talk to Moira Pierce again.

06:48Now Bill's been released, she might be less tense and able to remember more.

06:51We'll do that tomorrow.

06:52Tonight, Jeff, you can go to the Cross Swords.

06:55Why?

06:56Exactly a week ago, Bill was taken from outside that pub.

06:59So his mates will be there.

07:01The landlord said they always met up on a Thursday night,

07:03and we know that whoever took Bill knew his movements.

07:06Bloody quiz night.

07:07Well, I hope you win.

07:08It's not a lot of money, is it?

07:10Fifty grand.

07:12What do you mean?

07:12I'd have asked for more.

07:13They didn't late.

07:15What are you driving at?

07:16I don't know.

07:22Describe the room in which you were kept.

07:26Not sure I can.

07:27Start with the floor.

07:29It was hard.

07:31Did the room smell of anything?

07:33Mainly the bucket I used as a toilet.

07:37What could you hear?

07:39The room was echoey.

07:41I tapped on the walls.

07:42They didn't seem solid.

07:44Well, what could you see?

07:45Can't see much when they take the lights out and cover the windows.

07:49When they took the sacking off, how did you've been home yet, Joe?

07:52It's bloody ridiculous, this.

07:54I keep getting asked the same questions by you, the police.

07:57Who's next?

07:58The bloody cleaner.

08:01Is that it?

08:02Yeah.

08:03Right.

08:04I'm surprised I got that much.

08:06I can see Bill's point of view, Anne.

08:08He's back safe.

08:09The pressure's off.

08:10What if they do it again?

08:12You're bundled in a car, kept in the dark, scared alone, not knowing who's talking to

08:17you, what they're going to do next, whether when they close the door behind them they'll

08:21ever come back with food or the key, whether you'll ever be found, whether you'll live.

08:26I hate the bastards who do this.

08:28Last week it was armed robbers.

08:29That's what I like about this job.

08:31Every week there's someone different to despise.

08:33We have got something.

08:36Hard floor, echoing room, walls that don't seem solid, no windows, no light bulbs.

08:41I was hoping for more.

08:43And from now on, Joe, I want to hear the tapes as soon as possible, not the following day.

08:48I was viewing a house with Helen.

08:49At times like this, Joe, we don't have a personal life.

08:52I do.

08:53Come in.

08:56Morning, Matt.

08:57Morning, Professor.

08:58Shut up, Jeff.

08:59That's what the lecturers at Police call it, sir.

09:01Joe, you need to talk to Bill again as soon as possible.

09:04This morning?

09:05I can't.

09:06We need descriptions, people, places, the car.

09:08I'm due at the university.

09:11Look, I should be able to see him later today.

09:13I'll interview him at his home.

09:15He might be more relaxed there.

09:16Are you enjoying the teaching, Joe?

09:19Yes.

09:20The students are very conscientious.

09:23I was expecting late nights, sex and booze.

09:25You joined the police force for that.

09:27Can we get on?

09:31Now then, Jeff, tell me about last night.

09:33I'm preparing notes for the CPS this morning, Mum.

09:35Tell me about last night.

09:41It was quiz night, so the pub was full of anoraks.

09:43You start a conversation and then you have to stop while some gadget asks you about the longest river in Tanzania or which fish speaks Spanish.

09:51They're all what you call professional.

09:53You know, company cars and a smugness that comes from executive housing.

09:56But they don't seem like mates.

09:58They're real mates.

09:59They meet every week.

10:00I've been for years, yet there didn't seem to be anything between them.

10:03They never asked after them.

10:05Maybe people like that don't have mates, just new conservatories.

10:08Could one of them be behind it?

10:09I doubt it.

10:10Too much effort.

10:11They're the sort of people who push the envelope out of the box or whatever and earn 50 grand in bonuses for reaching their monthly arse-licking target.

10:19So you won't be joining the quiz team, then?

10:21What do you want?

10:29Sorry to disturb you, Mr. Taylor.

10:30I was having a rest.

10:31The doctor said...

10:32Just five minutes with you and Mrs. Pearce?

10:34What's it got to do with Moira?

10:36We need as complete a picture as we can get.

10:39Well, wipe your feet and take your shoes off, then.

10:42The lounge is through here.

10:49So...

10:50How are you, Bill?

10:52That's a stupid question.

10:54I'm trying to rest.

10:56I'll get Moira.

10:59Moira!

11:02Now...

11:03What do you want?

11:05Whoever did this, Bill, must have known that you went to the quiz night every week.

11:11Well, only friends and colleagues, and they're not a gang of thugs.

11:13Could there be anyone else that would know?

11:15What sort of people do you think I ain't mixed with?

11:17It's not in the bathroom, so...

11:19Oh!

11:20Hello, Mrs. Pearce.

11:22I was kidnapped to get money out of the company.

11:24Simple as that.

11:25Mrs. Pearce, have you any idea who'd know about your husband's quiz nights?

11:30Me?

11:30No, I don't go out much.

11:32Have you received any threats, Bill?

11:34Who from?

11:34Well, disgruntled clients.

11:36What are you suggesting?

11:38We have to look at all possibilities.

11:40Of course you do.

11:42Would you like some coffee?

11:44Well, that'd be lovely.

11:44No, thank you, Mrs. Pearce.

11:47Bill, tell me about Tony Calderwood.

11:49Tony?

11:50What about him?

11:51Didn't you and him fall out of approaching clients?

11:54It wasn't like that.

11:55He did come and see you a few weeks back, love, and...

11:58He wanted some help.

11:59I felt sorry for him.

12:01He looked miserable and shabby, I remember saying.

12:03He was no bloody good at his job, that's why he was fired.

12:07Look, I'm tired and Moira's got things to do.

12:11One last question, Bill.

12:12Did your work ever take you to Leeds?

12:15Yes.

12:16You can see them out, can't you, love?

12:18He's very tired.

12:23I expect you're glad to have him back.

12:25Oh, it's nice to get back to normal.

12:27It's a lovely house, Mrs. Pearce.

12:30So clean and tidy.

12:31Bill likes it that way.

12:33And I hope you find what you're looking for.

12:34It's my wedding ring.

12:36I always take my jewellery off to do housework.

12:38So do I.

12:39Excuse me.

12:44Yes?

12:47Oh, at last.

12:49I'll be there in 20 minutes.

12:56They pulled the sucking off my head.

12:59I heard the door shut.

13:01What did you do next?

13:03Keep your eyes closed, Bill.

13:05Bloody hell.

13:05I stood still.

13:09I was scared.

13:11I thought I was going to...

13:12So I walked around.

13:16I was freezing.

13:17I could tell when it was dead because the temperature rose.

13:20Not by much.

13:22They gave me a sleeping bag.

13:24Brand new, I think.

13:26What can you hear as you walk around the room?

13:29My footsteps.

13:31What do they sound like?

13:34Footsteps.

13:35What do they sound like on the floor?

13:40Echoing.

13:42Describe the room.

13:44Dark.

13:46Black.

13:47Cold.

13:48Damp.

13:49Empty.

13:51You're walking around the room.

13:53Then I sit on the floor.

13:54What's the floor like?

13:55I've said.

13:59Wood.

14:00Not real wood.

14:01Flooring.

14:02Rough flooring.

14:04Plywood.

14:04The walls had a plastic feel.

14:08Panelled, I think.

14:09I don't know.

14:11Dust.

14:12And oil or something.

14:14Maybe it was grease, sir.

14:15Or both.

14:17The door opens into the room.

14:19What can you see?

14:20The light from the corridor.

14:22Describe the light.

14:23White.

14:25Bright.

14:27A man comes in with a tray.

14:29There's always the same things.

14:31Flask of coffee.

14:32Bottle of water.

14:33Sandwiches.

14:34Always bloody sandwiches.

14:37He said nothing.

14:39Keep looking at the man with the tray.

14:42Keep looking at him.

14:43He kicks the door shut.

14:48A backheel.

14:51Turn the bloody thing off, woman!

15:00Do you want to continue?

15:01Do I have a choice?

15:03Of course.

15:04It's Hobson's, though.

15:06The man kicks the door shut.

15:13He walks towards me with the tray.

15:16Describe the man.

15:18He's wearing a balaclava.

15:20Look at his feet.

15:23Shoes.

15:24Keep looking at the feet.

15:27Black shoes.

15:28Now, let your eyes travel up his body.

15:34Dark trousers.

15:35Black.

15:37Fleece.

15:38Dark.

15:40Gloves.

15:42He's wearing gloves.

15:44Dark gloves.

15:45Dark trousers.

15:47Black shoes.

15:48Black balaclava.

15:50Look at his feet.

15:53No?

15:55I'm tired, Joe.

15:56I heard the police here earlier.

15:58Did you?

16:02Do you want coffee now, love?

16:04Of course I do.

16:06She does a lovely cup of coffee, does Moira.

16:08Dr. Aston?

16:11Yes, thank you.

16:15You all right?

16:16I'm sorry, Joe, if I'm a bit, you know.

16:19You see, every day I have a list of appointments with times, places,

16:24and I'm always at the right place at the right time.

16:27And I always have the right things with me.

16:29In there, I had no place to go and no time to be there by.

16:33Nothing.

16:35My eyes got used to the dark, and I got used to the smell of sounds,

16:38but I couldn't get used to what had been taken from inside me, inside my head.

16:46Do you understand, Joe?

16:48Yeah.

16:48I want to remember, and I don't want to remember.

16:54So what did you think of Tony Calderwood?

16:59He's depressed.

17:00Do you believe him when he says he can't remember where he spent the last week?

17:03I don't know.

17:05Are we treating him as a sister?

17:06He has a motive.

17:08Revenge for Bill poaching his clients, and against the company for sacking him.

17:13What's more, he can't account for his movement.

17:16I'd like to interview Calderwood.

17:18How long did Joe say he'd be?

17:19You had to see DS Watson, but...

17:21Sorry, I'm nice.

17:25Have you listened to the tape?

17:27Yes, we have.

17:28And?

17:29The stuff about balaclavas and black clothes doesn't really help.

17:32To be honest, Joe, it sounds like a cheap thriller.

17:35Well, considering what he's been through, Anne, I think we should take what he said.

17:37Don't misunderstand me.

17:38The description of the room is useful.

17:40Rough floor, plywood, dust, oil, grease, and it doesn't sound like a house, does it?

17:45She had us some description.

17:46Not your host.

17:48Has he mentioned noises outside the room?

17:49No.

17:50Ask him.

17:51I did ask him about the journey from the pub to the room.

17:53You jump around a lot.

17:55Bill holds information in compartments and can move from one compartment to another quickly

17:59and not confuse the information in one compartment with that in the other.

18:03I should imagine he's a bloody good salesman.

18:05Ruthless.

18:06Perhaps you have to be.

18:07I wouldn't like to live with him.

18:08If my husband talked to me the way he talks tomorrow, I'd have the handcuffs out.

18:11Really?

18:13What did Bill say about the car?

18:15He hasn't been able to describe it.

18:17The journey?

18:18The radio was on full blast to disorientate him and he can remember some of what the presenter said,

18:23but not the music.

18:25There was an advert on for some car players.

18:27No, the radio then.

18:28Me and poor devil, haven't I listened to that?

18:30I do.

18:31Good.

18:31Then find out what adverts were on what stations at what time.

18:34That might help us establish the length of the journey.

18:37Then, once we've got that, we can take him out in the car.

18:41I don't want you to do that, Anne.

18:42I structure the investigations.

18:44It'll interfere with my process.

18:45Then you need to work quicker.

18:47What makes my job difficult is when the interviewee is tired.

18:51If you'd have told me you were going to see Bill at home,

18:52I might have done things differently.

18:54This is an investigation into a serious crime, Joe, not a therapy session.

18:59I must go.

19:00I want you to work with Bill again.

19:02He might be tired, Joe, and he might be shaken, but he's all we've got.

19:06What are you waiting for, Jeff?

19:07Have you got some radio stations to talk to?

19:15What's up there?

19:16Rumour is she's going for promotion.

19:18New house, new job, Joe.

19:20You're losing touch with us.

19:22Don't you start.

19:23So, what you're saying, Mr. Coldwood, is that you took yourself off for all that time

19:32because you were feeling depressed.

19:37Refusing to answer is not helping your cause, Mr. Coldwood.

19:43You've admitted that Bill Pierce poached your clients,

19:46and this led to a fall in your figures.

19:48As a result, you were made redundant.

19:49For the tape, Mr. Coldwood?

19:54Yes.

19:55That must have provoked feelings of revenge against both Bill Pierce and the company.

20:01Well?

20:03Mr. Coldwood?

20:08Do you know Leeds at all?

20:10Leeds?

20:12The door opens into the room.

20:15What can you see?

20:16The light from the corridor.

20:19Describe the light.

20:21White.

20:22Bright.

20:25Ask about external noise.

20:29Description of man.

20:32Clothing details.

20:35Interview room two, Joe.

20:38Sorry?

20:39Interview room two.

20:40There's a man in there called Tony Coldwood.

20:42Clinically depressed, apparently.

20:43But we need to know whether he's genuinely lost his memory.

20:46Is this part of the same case?

20:48I've just arranged to see Bill and I don't...

20:49As soon as you finish with Tony, find me.

20:51Thanks, Joe.

20:52Bloody hell.

20:55Mum?

20:57Yes?

20:59This 50 grand.

21:01What about it?

21:02Remember, Joe, talking about instinct and intuition.

21:05And conscious knowledge and that.

21:07Which is just a fancy way of saying copper's nose.

21:10And...

21:11I can smell a rabbit.

21:12Look, Jeff, we need hard evidence.

21:14I know, ma'am, but...

21:15Remember the bloke who got done for raking off the profits from the police social club?

21:19What about him?

21:20He got away with it for years.

21:22Because he knew exactly how much he could get away with.

21:25Maybe someone knows that 50 grand is what the company can write off.

21:28Inside knowledge, Tony Coldwood.

21:31He could pass information on for a cut of the money.

21:35Anything from the radio stations?

21:37They're getting back to me.

21:38Get back to them.

21:38We need to find this shed or whatever, as soon as we can.

21:44Mr. Coldwood, you have agreed to this interview and you've agreed to it being taped.

21:48Is that correct?

21:50Yes.

21:53Interview timed at 17.30 hours.

21:57Present are Dr. Joe Aston and Mr. Tony Coldwood.

22:00Mr. Coldwood, I'm going to read out a sequence of letters and words, and then I'd like you to repeat them back to me.

22:07Do you understand?

22:08Yes.

22:10B-G-V-T-P-E.

22:16B-G-V-T-P-E.

22:19Cat, mat, hat, sat.

22:24Cat, mat, hat, sat.

22:28Sat, jug, mouse, alpha, zoom, cloth.

22:36Could you say them again?

22:38Mm-hmm.

22:39Sat, jug, mouse, alpha, zoom, cloth.

22:44Sat, jug, mouse, mouse, alpha, zoom, cloth.

22:58Thank you, Mr. Coldwood.

23:02Now, I'd like to repeat the exercise.

23:06Warwickshire, archipelago, hippopotamus, formaldehyde, cummerbund.

23:14Warwickshire, archipelago, cummerbund.

23:25Thank you, Mr. Coldwood.

23:29Now, I'd like you to look at this picture.

23:30I want to go home.

23:32I've done nothing.

23:35Nothing.

23:37So when will they be here?

23:41Sometime tomorrow's not good enough.

23:43You said?

23:45Come in.

23:47That's all very well, but...

23:49I'm sorry.

23:50I want them now.

23:53Yes, and the Tony Coldwood stuff.

23:57They're part of the same case.

24:00That's excellent.

24:02Goodbye.

24:03Bloody forensic.

24:05You finished already?

24:06It's just the first stage, and I'm late for Bill.

24:09So what have you got?

24:11Coldwood is clinically depressed, and that does affect short-term memory.

24:14Now, the effects differ depending upon the severity of the depression and events recently encountered.

24:20For example, the memory will block out...

24:22Sorry, Joe.

24:22I'm not one of your students.

24:24Is he pulling a fast one?

24:26The initial tests indicate adequate functioning of short-term memory.

24:30Really?

24:31But we can't conclude that he's lying when he says he can't remember where he's been.

24:35What can we conclude?

24:36Not sure yet.

24:38What is it with this case?

24:39We're dancing around bloody handbags.

24:41Yeah, I'm doing my best, Dan.

24:43I've had a look on your face, Joe.

24:50She's still not happy.

24:51I hope you've got something for her.

24:52I was relying on you.

24:54Thanks.

24:55Have you interviewed Coldwood?

24:56Yeah.

24:56And?

24:57He might be, and he might not be.

25:00That definite.

25:01Hmm.

25:02Joe.

25:02What?

25:04If you kidnapped someone, how much would you ask for?

25:06As much as I could get away with.

25:08Why?

25:09How would you know how much you could get away with?

25:13I was led by the hand across what I think was a yard.

25:21I slipped.

25:22The ground was rough, uneven.

25:25I climbed three steps.

25:27I went in the building.

25:29A few more paces and into the room.

25:31What was on the hands?

25:33Gloves.

25:34Could you describe the texture of the gloves?

25:36Soft, I suppose.

25:39The three steps, what were they made of?

25:41Metal.

25:43You went to the building?

25:44Yes.

25:45How far did you walk before you entered the room?

25:48A few steps.

25:50Is that it?

25:52I'd like to do one more thing.

25:53Sorry, Bill.

25:54I know, I know.

25:57Look, I'm no Saint Joe.

25:59I make mistakes.

26:01But if I was dishonest, I wouldn't have a job.

26:03Friends, family, you know, they ask me for advice.

26:05I won't give it.

26:06I'll recommend someone and I'll explain how policies and pensions work, but I won't sell them anything.

26:12So what have people got against me and what I do?

26:15What have they got against the company?

26:19Moira says I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

26:22She thinks that's comforting.

26:24She can be stupid at times.

26:26Sometimes people don't know what to say.

26:29You do, Joe.

26:30You understand.

26:32That's my job.

26:33And you're good at it.

26:36I'm going to play some sound effects, Bill, and say yes or no if any of the noises you hear are ones that you heard when you were in that room.

26:44Right.

26:45Yes.

27:00Yes.

27:07No.

27:11No.

27:15No.

27:26No.

27:31Yes.

27:36Yes.

27:40That's more like it, Joe.

27:41Thanks.

27:42Jeff.

27:43Do you know what I think?

27:44A port-a-cabin.

27:46Go on.

27:47Everything points to a working environment.

27:49Metal steps, dirt, gravel, clutter.

27:51The sort of place a port-a-cabin would be.

27:53And it sounds like an empty port-a-cabin to me.

27:56Didn't think they had plywood floors.

27:58Could Bill be mistaken?

28:00About the surface of the floor, yes.

28:02But not about the solidity of the floor.

28:05We don't really notice port-a-cabins, do we?

28:07They're just sort of there.

28:08Couldn't hear any sounds of work going on.

28:10So it would seem.

28:11So it's disused.

28:12Fair assumption.

28:13But where is it?

28:14I've checked with all the radio stations, and Bill must have been listening to Walfour FM.

28:18He must have been in the car for about 15 minutes.

28:21There's no pick-up on speed cameras.

28:22I check.

28:23So let's say a radius of 20 miles, assuming they went by a direct route.

28:27There's a little traffic that time of night.

28:28So if we take a radius of 20 miles from the cross-swords.

28:34There.

28:35It's a big area.

28:37Could be looking for anything.

28:39Building site, world-use car lot, anything.

28:42I could put together a possible description that could be circulated to all offices and other stations.

28:48We can find likely locations, then recreate Bill's journey.

28:52Is this a change of heart, Joe?

28:53Well, the sooner we do it, the sooner I can leave Bill alone to get over the experience.

28:58I think we all appreciate what Bill's been through.

29:01We appreciate, but we don't understand.

29:04He's not the most likable of people, I admit.

29:06What happened to him should not happen to anyone.

29:09So what's next?

29:11The gloves.

29:12Soft fingerprints.

29:14But soft gloves.

29:16I'll see you later.

29:20Soft gloves.

29:21He's all right, Jeff.

29:23He knows what he's doing.

29:25Joe seemed to suggest that Calderwood could be pulling a fast one.

29:27Did he?

29:28Said he might be.

29:29What do you think?

29:31Joe's the expert.

29:33Let's keep the pressure on Calderwood.

29:35But we keep all lines of inquiry open.

29:41I went to my daughter's.

29:43Stopped one night.

29:45Couldn't stay any longer.

29:46In the way.

29:48With my own daughter.

29:49Can't stay at home.

29:51Can't stay there.

29:52So I drove.

29:53Where to?

29:53I don't know.

29:55Yorkshire.

29:56Somewhere.

29:56Where do you sleep?

29:58In the car.

29:59Every night?

30:00No.

30:00So, where do you sleep?

30:03A B&B.

30:05Where?

30:06I don't know.

30:08You all right?

30:10Ex-mate.

30:11Gets worse with stress.

30:12Why did you only stop one night at your daughter's?

30:16I've said.

30:17You haven't.

30:19Do you know what it's like when your children look at you as if you just...

30:21Black bollocks.

30:22Black gloves.

30:23Fleece.

30:24Black shoes.

30:26Black Oxfords.

30:28Dark trousers.

30:30Black trousers.

30:32Cords.

30:33Definitely cords.

30:35I remember thinking he dressed badly.

30:38The trousers were old, shabby, baggy, worn at the knees, you know.

30:41Well, describe the gloves, Bill.

30:44I have.

30:47He never took them off.

30:48What were the gloves made from?

30:51How should I know?

30:53When you were led by the hand from the car...

30:55The village where you stayed, Tony.

30:56Could you describe it for me?

30:58It was just a village.

31:00One road.

31:02Describe the road.

31:03It rained.

31:05The rain ran down the street and I stayed in like everybody else.

31:09I watched it.

31:11Seemed to go on forever.

31:12Hmm.

31:13So you're looking out the bedroom window.

31:15What can you see?

31:17The rain.

31:18What does the village look like in the rain?

31:23You know, the rain is falling.

31:25Aye, all the time.

31:27And what can you hear?

31:28The rain, the wind.

31:31I went out.

31:32I went to the shop.

31:33Tell me what you saw when you walked to the shop.

31:38Oh, I kept my head down.

31:39Looked at the pavement.

31:41Avoiding the rain and the wind.

31:43Mm-hmm.

31:45So you walk into the shop.

31:48Describe the village.

31:49I can't.

31:50I just can't.

31:52I'm not good at things like that.

31:55Describing things.

31:58What does your granddaughter look like?

32:04Blonde curls.

32:06Grey eyes.

32:08Sometimes they look blue and...

32:11She has this way, you know, of...

32:13Of tugging her hair when she's tired.

32:15Hmm.

32:16When you're sitting down, she rests her head on your lap.

32:19She calls me Granda.

32:23Describe walking from the B&B to the shop.

32:26I can't.

32:27Close your eyes.

32:29It can make it easier to remember.

32:33Now, tell me what you can see.

32:39Tony?

32:42How things used to be.

32:45I shouldn't have done it.

32:51Done what?

32:55Or I did.

33:01How things used to be.

33:07I shouldn't have done it.

33:09Done what?

33:13Or I did.

33:14You stopped the interview there.

33:20I thought it best.

33:21Did you?

33:22At the moment of a possible breakthrough.

33:24I don't know that.

33:26I know we don't, Joe, because you didn't follow through.

33:28It's a matter of judgment, Anne.

33:30No, it's a matter of solving a crime.

33:33Both Bill and Tony are in a fragile mental state.

33:35To ignore that is...

33:37You know, what's the point?

33:38We've not finished, Joe.

33:39You do things your way and I'll do things mine.

33:42I trust you and you trust me.

33:45It's called teamwork.

33:47Joe.

33:47Excuse me.

33:48I've got something you might be in.

33:50Joe.

33:51Ma'am.

33:52I thought you might want to know what we found when we searched Colderwood's wardrobe.

33:57Well, the most interesting item, a pair of soft black gloves.

34:04And?

34:05Well, Joe was talking about gloves.

34:06Black gloves.

34:08Gloves like these are no use in an industrial environment.

34:10And industrial gloves would aggravate Tony's eczema.

34:14And Bill could recognise Tony by the eczema on his hands.

34:16It's just getting worse.

34:17With the stress.

34:18We haven't got a balaclava, Mum, and we haven't got a dark fleece.

34:22I'm not saying Tony's our man.

34:24And what we have so far is circumstantial, unless Forensic come up with oil splinters, whatever,

34:29that match the traces found on Bill's clothing.

34:32But given what Tony said on the tape, given Bill's description of the kidnapper,

34:37given Tony's inability to tell us where he was,

34:40given Tony has a bloody good reason to get at Bill,

34:43wouldn't you say that we have enough to be going on with?

34:46Unless, of course, Bill's lying.

34:49Mum.

34:50Is there a point you'd like to make, Jeff?

34:51I'm not sure Colderwood could organise a kidnapping.

34:54Not on his own, no.

34:56He had accomplices.

34:57I'm convinced Tony Colderwood is the key.

35:00You need a forensic match, Mum.

35:01And a positive ID.

35:13Bloody hell.

35:22When was this place last year used?

35:23Up until six months ago.

35:25Used cars.

35:27Here's the porter cabin.

35:29Are you ready, Bill?

35:31Yes.

35:31You all right?

35:38Yeah.

35:39Good.

35:40Just stand here for the moment.

35:42Can't go anywhere with this hood on.

35:44When you first got out of the car, how many people had hold of you?

35:48Two.

35:49Jeff?

35:49Right.

35:50One had his hands on my shoulders.

35:53Like that?

35:53Yeah.

35:54The other had my hand.

35:55Now, we'll take a few paces forward.

35:59Listen very carefully to the sound that your feet make.

36:07Well?

36:09Sounds like it.

36:10Not so slippy, then.

36:12It's been raining.

36:14You ready?

36:15Yeah.

36:21There's steps in front of you, Bill.

36:23Right.

36:25I'm back, aren't I?

36:49You want to go back to the car, Bill.

36:52Coming back, you know.

36:53I didn't think it'd feel like this.

36:55It's understandable, Bill.

36:57It might be for you.

36:59Thanks, Joe.

37:00Let's hope the boiler suit boys turn up trumps.

37:03Tomorrow, Jeff, interview Calderwood again.

37:05Has Calderwood really lost his memory?

37:08Perhaps not to the extent he's making out.

37:10But sometimes with depression and stress...

37:12Thanks, Joe.

37:17She's in a better mood.

37:18Couldn't have got worse.

37:19In some ways, I hope it is Calderwood.

37:21And maybe I could get to spend some time at home.

37:24If I can remember how to get there.

37:25Look, Jeff.

37:26I need your help.

37:28So, it's Jojo time.

37:30What?

37:30I haven't done anything.

37:36All I'm asking you is why you lost your job as a financial advisor.

37:39I've told you.

37:40Because that sod poached me clients.

37:42So, it was Bill's fault?

37:43Aye.

37:45Eczema?

37:46Yeah.

37:46Your hands look worse.

37:48Is that why you wear gloves?

37:49Can I get some acquiesce cream?

37:51Later.

37:52I haven't done anything.

37:54If you haven't done anything to Bill, why would he do what he did to you?

37:57You can say what he's like.

37:59What is he like?

38:02Tell me about this village.

38:04In the Dales.

38:05Which deal?

38:06Worfdale.

38:07Remind me where Worfdale is?

38:09North Yorkshire.

38:10So, where were you on that Thursday night?

38:11Sleeping in me car.

38:13Where?

38:13I don't know.

38:15What were you going to do with the 50 grand, Tony?

38:18Thanks for agreeing to come in, Bill.

38:20Do I have a choice?

38:21You lot should be concentrating on the bastards who took me.

38:24I thought you understood, Jojo.

38:26Sit yourself down, Bill.

38:27And I'll get some tea.

38:29I won't be long.

38:33Jo?

38:34Why have you brought Bill in?

38:35It's easier, given what his wife is like.

38:37Be careful.

38:39I don't want Tony Calderwood and Bill accidentally seeing each other.

38:43They won't.

38:44I can understand, Tony.

38:45No, you can't.

38:47They should have kept the bastard longer.

38:48There was no need to once you got the money.

38:50I haven't got any money.

38:51I haven't got anything.

38:52He took me clients.

38:54He took me job.

38:55He screwed me.

38:56Huh.

38:56And then he screwed me wife.

38:59I'll never forget that day.

39:00When I found them.

39:02So you do remember some things, then?

39:05Leave me alone.

39:07It was always the same, Jo.

39:09A black balaclava, black gloves, black Oxfords, black cord trousers, black fleece.

39:14The shoes were cracked, the trousers were baggy, faded, sagging at the knees.

39:19What I'd like you to do now, Bill, is put the sack in over your head.

39:23Why do you keep making me go over it again and again?

39:26Not for much longer, Bill.

39:30I'm going to stand behind you, and when I touch you, on your right shoulder,

39:34it's to warn you that I'm going to pull it off.

39:37Are you all right?

39:37No.

39:39But I have to be, don't I?

39:42What's this all about?

39:43You'll see.

39:44Why am I dressed like this?

39:45Are you all close, Tony?

39:47I haven't got a balaclava.

39:49Now, hold this tray.

39:50What for?

39:51Because I'm telling you.

39:52When I tell you to, walk into the room.

39:56Understand?

39:59What's this all about, Jo?

40:01In there.

40:02Bloody hell.

40:05Tony!

40:06You bastard!

40:08Pack it in!

40:09Pack it in!

40:10Stop it!

40:11Now!

40:12Tony!

40:12You bastard!

40:15Pack it in!

40:16Stop it!

40:19So tell me, Jo, what has that achieved?

40:21A positive identification.

40:23It's achieved nothing.

40:25Unless you call sabotaging a case and acting unprofessionally an achievement.

40:28What I did was...

40:29What you did was introduce a party trick into the investigation of a serious crime.

40:34The super's giving me hell over this, which is nothing to what the CPS would do if we

40:38sent anything to them, which we can't, because you've acted like a...

40:41Words fail me.

40:43What I did was unorthodox, but I can justify it to anybody who...

40:46I'm good to bet to tear you apart.

40:48I can't believe you.

40:49You tell me I have to do this, then that, make sure this is ready, those reports are done.

40:53What do you expect?

40:53I expect you to be professional.

40:56I don't expect you to lie to me.

40:58I didn't.

40:59I told you to make sure there was no meeting between Bill and...

41:01I didn't, Mum, but I thought you...

41:03You can sit down.

41:04Mum?

41:05And you should know better.

41:06Mum?

41:07You should know how things should be done.

41:11Forensic found a mug at the same, Mum, with Tony Cullerwood's fingerprint on.

41:15Even though he was wearing gloves?

41:16And they also found this, Mum.

41:19A jiffy bag.

41:20Let's have a look.

41:24Something else you got wrong, Jo.

41:29So, what can I do for you, Inspector?

41:34Would you like coffee?

41:35I'd like you to stay, Mrs. Pearce.

41:37Sit down, then, woman.

41:38You make the place look untidy.

41:41We did a forensic sweep of the place where you were held, Bill.

41:44And?

41:45We found Tony Cullerwood's fingerprints on a mug.

41:49And this jiffy bag.

41:50Would you like to see what's inside it?

41:54Oh, my God.

41:55So it is your wedding ring, Mrs. Pearce.

41:57You stupid bitch!

41:58Ow!

41:59I wouldn't have had with you.

42:01You're hurting me!

42:02Good!

42:03You can't do anything right, can you?

42:05I'm sorry, Mum.

42:11No, Geoff, you're wrong.

42:13The truth is, I let myself be manipulated.

42:16It happens.

42:16It shouldn't.

42:17We all make errors of judgment, Jo.

42:19You had an instinct about the 50 grand, so you didn't jump to conclusions.

42:23Because I didn't listen to my instinct, I accepted that Bill Pearce was the victim.

42:27We've got a case again, Jo.

42:28Well, and Anne's in a better mood.

42:30Oh, I'm just sorry I involved you.

42:31It's Moira, I feel sorry for.

42:33Fractured cheekbone and done for being an accessory.

42:36Do all women take the jewellery off to clean?

42:38I know Anne does.

42:39She said.

42:40Mind, I doubt she puts them into separate jiffy bags.

42:43I wonder if she wears marigolds and a pinny.

42:45I can't imagine Anne being a victim.

42:48Unlike Tony.

42:50Pearce couldn't stop himself, could he?

42:52He's so, a victim.

42:55What's funny?

42:56Bill needing the money because he bought into a pension scheme he was flogging and it went belly up.

43:00I like that.

43:02Got time for another?

43:03I've got to lecture some students about the need for accuracy and concentration in recall.

43:09And the need to be disciplined and precise given the reservations that exist about the process.

43:15Do you fancy giving the lecture?

43:16In Taken by Surprise by David Knapphine, Dr. Joe Aston was played by Jeremy Swift.

43:36D.I. Anne Reynolds by Janet Dibley.

43:39And D.C. Jeff Patton by Paul Brennan.

43:42Bill Pearce was Andrew Dunn.

43:44Tony Calderwood, Gerard McDermott.

43:47And Moira Pearce, Susan Jameson.

43:50The director was Toby Swift.

The Recall Man - Taken by Surprise

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