- 7/18/2025
Afternoon Call by IVOR WILSON
An attractive woman is murdered, her body found by a friend. It's a routine case for the police, unpleasant, but unsensational, a matter of checking, sifting, interviewing, cross-checking. There's just an odd feel about it for the men on the case, and their hunch proves horrifically correct.
Directed by TONY CLlFF
BBC Manchester
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Unknown:
Ivor Wilson
Directed By:
Tony Cllff
Inspector Turner:
Geoffrey Hinsliff
Wilkinson:
Russell Dixon
Graham:
Bernard Latham
Sally Kingsley:
Jane Collins
Martin Chapman:
Brian Southwood
Louis Harris:
Andy Rashleigh
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An attractive woman is murdered, her body found by a friend. It's a routine case for the police, unpleasant, but unsensational, a matter of checking, sifting, interviewing, cross-checking. There's just an odd feel about it for the men on the case, and their hunch proves horrifically correct.
Directed by TONY CLlFF
BBC Manchester
Contributors
Unknown:
Ivor Wilson
Directed By:
Tony Cllff
Inspector Turner:
Geoffrey Hinsliff
Wilkinson:
Russell Dixon
Graham:
Bernard Latham
Sally Kingsley:
Jane Collins
Martin Chapman:
Brian Southwood
Louis Harris:
Andy Rashleigh
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00:00:00It's not good enough. It's not good enough at all.
00:00:04No, sir.
00:00:04That payroll job's getting nowhere.
00:00:06My desk's up to the ink pots in paper to sort out,
00:00:09and then I get this latch up to me.
00:00:11Yes, sir.
00:00:12And what does that mean?
00:00:14What, sir?
00:00:14Yes, sir. No, sir. Three bags full, sir.
00:00:17Didn't I tell you you're getting more like a parrot every day?
00:00:20Yes, sir. That's Wednesday.
00:00:22Well, you are.
00:00:23You're even beginning to look like one.
00:00:25Must be my beak, sir.
00:00:27No. No, it's your feathers, Wilkinson.
00:00:30I can't stand green and red feathers.
00:00:34We're not policemen anymore.
00:00:36We're bloody waste papermen.
00:00:37It's all forms, reports, and memos these days.
00:00:41My God, there's a bigger eye if you spell a villain's name wrong
00:00:43than if you let him off the hook.
00:00:45Look out.
00:00:45What for?
00:00:46That pedestrian, you idiot.
00:00:48Get out of the way, you dithering old nit face.
00:00:53What the hell's that for?
00:00:55Just to warn them.
00:00:56Warn them?
00:00:57Warn them?
00:00:58You'll likely frighten the poor boogers to death.
00:01:01Look, what are we rushing about for, anyway?
00:01:03It's a murder call, sir.
00:01:05You said we had to get a move on.
00:01:06I didn't say we had to do a jumbo jet act down the main shopping street.
00:01:10I mean, we're not flying out to drop supplies to a beleaguered Congo garrison, are we?
00:01:14No, sir.
00:01:15The woman is dead.
00:01:17From all accounts, yes, sir.
00:01:18And not likely to revive before we get there.
00:01:21It's not usual, sir.
00:01:25When did we find the lady?
00:01:27About two hours ago.
00:01:29So everything's on the move.
00:01:31Yes.
00:01:31Uniform lads are there in strength.
00:01:33Half a dozen cars.
00:01:35The doctor, print boys, and the photographer all got the old hurry up when Mr. Allen heard it was murder.
00:01:41Who said it was murder?
00:01:42I don't know.
00:01:43The, uh, Bobby who radioed in, I expect.
00:01:46Expert in this line, is he?
00:01:48Hardly.
00:01:49He's 21.
00:01:51But, uh, Chief Inspector Potts was on the scene pretty sharp to have a look for himself.
00:01:56He says it's murder.
00:01:57In the bath, was he?
00:01:58No.
00:01:59I don't think so.
00:02:00Oh.
00:02:01I just wondered.
00:02:03Potts has a rare old knack for catching them in the bath.
00:02:06Turns the silly old bugger on, I expect.
00:02:08He said she'd been strangled.
00:02:10Fairly easy to diagnose.
00:02:11I'm going to miss my tea again.
00:02:17Looks like it.
00:02:18Third time this week.
00:02:19All in a day's work, sir.
00:02:21Horse manure, Wilkinson.
00:02:22Hot, steaming horse manure.
00:02:25Do you know what I'm missing?
00:02:26No, sir.
00:02:27Steak.
00:02:28Thick steak.
00:02:30Fresh peas.
00:02:31Lashings of Laura's gravy.
00:02:34Haven't tasted Laura's gravy, have you, Wilkinson?
00:02:36No, sir.
00:02:37I have yet to have that pleasure.
00:02:40Well put, lad.
00:02:41You might.
00:02:42You might.
00:02:43I have all my young men round once or twice.
00:02:46While they last.
00:02:50Marvellous gravy, she makes.
00:02:53All spoiled if I'm late.
00:02:55Remind me to ring her from Roswood Avenue in Warner.
00:02:57Right, sir.
00:03:00Mind, I never have much appetite myself after one of these affairs.
00:03:05Nor me, to tell the truth.
00:03:07You've been to a few of them, have you?
00:03:09One or two.
00:03:10Oh.
00:03:11Almost a veteran, then.
00:03:13What's Roswood Avenue like?
00:03:15Don't you know it, sir?
00:03:16Of course I bloody know it.
00:03:18I'm asking you.
00:03:19Oh.
00:03:19Well, uh, mixed.
00:03:20Well, uh, mixed.
00:03:24Long Avenue.
00:03:26Bottom half's pretty ordinary.
00:03:28Mostly semi-detached.
00:03:30Top ends, the residential haven for a few of our more successful tax dodgers.
00:03:35Not getting political, are we, constable?
00:03:36Not getting political, are we, constable?
00:03:37I hope so, sir.
00:03:40There are one or two very substantial properties.
00:03:43Very desirable, as they say.
00:03:45So long as you have a substantial income to match.
00:03:48What about twenty-six?
00:03:50Twenty-six, sir?
00:03:52The home of the deceased.
00:03:54Oh, uh, Rosa Harris.
00:03:56I, I didn't know you knew.
00:03:58You think I'm deaf, do you?
00:04:00No, sir.
00:04:01It's been bandied about, the radio, free of charge for the last hour and a half.
00:04:06What's it like?
00:04:08Nice.
00:04:09Detached bungalow.
00:04:11Dormer windows, fish pond.
00:04:14Solid middle class.
00:04:15Leaded lights and a burglar alarm, I expect.
00:04:18Yes, sir.
00:04:19Not the place you'd expect a murder?
00:04:21No, sir.
00:04:22Oh.
00:04:23I'm going to fool you, then.
00:04:25You think so?
00:04:25I know so.
00:04:27Your middle class is then riddled with it.
00:04:29What, sir?
00:04:29Lust, lad.
00:04:30Lust.
00:04:31All bottled up behind them rows of noughts in their bank accounts, till boom.
00:04:36One day it all blows out, so to speak.
00:04:40Yes, sir.
00:04:43Well?
00:04:45What are you waiting for?
00:04:47Nothing, sir.
00:04:48Well, get this damn car out of second gear and on the move before the boys in blue trample
00:04:52all our evidence into the foundations.
00:04:58No doubt.
00:04:59Well, she died, anyway.
00:05:01Hmm.
00:05:02You don't say.
00:05:03Well, I mean, look.
00:05:08She had somebody's tights twisted round her neck.
00:05:11The doctor said...
00:05:13She'd likely been strangled.
00:05:14Hmm.
00:05:15I say it looks like it.
00:05:16Could well be.
00:05:18Let's wait for the autopsy report before jumping to conclusions.
00:05:22Knowing they're medical boogers, I'd not be surprised if they said it was a virus.
00:05:25There's a lot of them about these days.
00:05:28Hmm.
00:05:29Let's have the details, then.
00:05:31Yes, sir.
00:05:33Uh...
00:05:34What details, sir?
00:05:36The woman.
00:05:37The dead woman, Wilkinson.
00:05:39Tights round her neck.
00:05:40What else?
00:05:41Oh.
00:05:41Uh, bruises on the jaw.
00:05:47Lacerations to the inside of the mouth.
00:05:51Heavy bruising on the upper arms and thighs.
00:05:54At all?
00:05:55Well, that's all that the preliminary report listed.
00:05:58She was hurt pretty bad.
00:06:00Yes, sir.
00:06:02Some bastard.
00:06:03Never mind that, Wilkinson.
00:06:06You think she put up a fight?
00:06:08I hope so, sir.
00:06:09Come on, lad.
00:06:10Yes, sir.
00:06:12So it's an assault, a murder, and it could be rape.
00:06:15Looks like it.
00:06:16Forensic will tell us.
00:06:19Yeah.
00:06:20Very attractive woman.
00:06:22Before this happened...
00:06:23It happened.
00:06:25We can't change that.
00:06:26No.
00:06:28We can't.
00:06:32Can we move her?
00:06:34Yes.
00:06:34They've all seen her, haven't they?
00:06:35Yes.
00:06:37Everybody but the bloody milkman.
00:06:38Then move her.
00:06:39What about Chief Superintendent Potts?
00:06:42Stuffed Potts.
00:06:43Sir?
00:06:43It's an order, constable.
00:06:45Tell the medical people to move her and inform Chief Superintendent Potts
00:06:48that the preliminary actions are completed.
00:06:50If he wants to argue, put him on to me.
00:06:53That's better, isn't it?
00:06:57Yes, sir.
00:06:59I didn't think it would upset me so much.
00:07:02Seeing I like.
00:07:03I thought you were an odd colour.
00:07:04Almost matched the carpet.
00:07:05What's her name?
00:07:10Rosa Harris.
00:07:11Rosa Mary Harris.
00:07:13Right.
00:07:14Husband?
00:07:15Louis Harris.
00:07:15Builder.
00:07:16Contractor.
00:07:16Where is he?
00:07:18Out of town.
00:07:19Ilkley on a hospital contract.
00:07:21He's been told?
00:07:21The local police are going to do it for us, sir.
00:07:24Who said so?
00:07:25Chief Superintendent Potts.
00:07:27Potts again.
00:07:28Look, what is going on, Wilkinson?
00:07:30Oh, it seemed reasonable, sir.
00:07:31You should have done it.
00:07:32Or me.
00:07:33Or one of our lads.
00:07:34It's murder man.
00:07:35CID work.
00:07:36Not for bloody traffic merchants.
00:07:38I didn't see it mattered, sir.
00:07:39So long as somebody did it.
00:07:40For God's sake, Wilkinson.
00:07:41He probably killed her.
00:07:43Her husband?
00:07:44He's in Ilkley.
00:07:45Oh, still me.
00:07:47Have you never looked at the figures?
00:07:49Husband's first.
00:07:50Boyfriend's second.
00:07:51Rapist.
00:07:51A poor bloody fifth or sixth.
00:07:54Still.
00:07:55It'll lull him into a sense of false security.
00:07:57I'll see him when he arrives.
00:07:59Yes, sir.
00:08:01How old?
00:08:02Mr. Harris.
00:08:04No, you idiot.
00:08:05His wife.
00:08:07Oh, 29, 30.
00:08:08Looked older.
00:08:10How did you know that?
00:08:11Eh?
00:08:12Oh, I asked.
00:08:13A friend of Mrs. Harris's.
00:08:15A friend.
00:08:16Go on.
00:08:17Which friend is that?
00:08:18Uh, Sally Kingsley.
00:08:19She's in the kitchen.
00:08:21She found Rosie and called us out.
00:08:23She looked older.
00:08:25Still.
00:08:26You can't tell when they've been belted about like that.
00:08:29Time found?
00:08:30About four.
00:08:31About?
00:08:32Ten to, near enough.
00:08:33Better.
00:08:34What's this Kingsley woman doing here?
00:08:37I thought you might want a word with her.
00:08:39Yeah, when I'm ready.
00:08:40Have you given her any tea?
00:08:45No.
00:08:46Not, sir.
00:08:47God, man.
00:08:48Even by your inaccurate watch, she's been here two and a half hours.
00:08:51I didn't think.
00:08:52Time you did.
00:08:53Get her some tea and biscuits before I see her.
00:08:55And, uh...
00:08:56It's the same for me.
00:08:57Two sugars, remember.
00:09:02Feeling better, Miss Kingsley?
00:09:04Yes.
00:09:05Rotten business, isn't it?
00:09:07Yes.
00:09:08I hope my constable made you a good cup of tea.
00:09:12Yes.
00:09:13Good.
00:09:15You found Mrs. Harris, I understand.
00:09:17Yes.
00:09:18Ah.
00:09:20No forced entries, Wilkinson?
00:09:22No, sir.
00:09:23Windows?
00:09:23All secure.
00:09:25Back door?
00:09:25Locked.
00:09:26Front?
00:09:26Unlocked.
00:09:27Miss Kingsley?
00:09:28It was unlocked.
00:09:29You sure of that?
00:09:30You don't have a key?
00:09:31No.
00:09:31So, our man's likely somebody she knew.
00:09:36Could be.
00:09:37A door unlocked or a visitor with a key.
00:09:39It could amount to the same thing.
00:09:40I suppose it could.
00:09:41She was found in the bath.
00:09:43No.
00:09:44But she'd been in the bath just before she was killed.
00:09:46Looks like it.
00:09:48And what do you do before you have a bath?
00:09:51Well, I...
00:09:52No, not you.
00:09:54Miss Kingsley.
00:09:55Well, lock the doors.
00:09:58You live in a bungalow?
00:10:00No, a flat.
00:10:01You knew Mrs. Harris well?
00:10:02Yes.
00:10:03Very well?
00:10:03Well enough.
00:10:04Well enough to visit without fixing it up beforehand?
00:10:06Of course.
00:10:08Do you live near?
00:10:09Across the road.
00:10:10Ah.
00:10:11Well, not exactly across.
00:10:12About ten houses further down the street.
00:10:15A flat, you said?
00:10:17Well, yeah.
00:10:17There's a dozen or more houses turned into flats.
00:10:20You can see this house from your flat?
00:10:22Yeah.
00:10:23What made you call today?
00:10:25I felt like it.
00:10:27You often felt like it?
00:10:28No, I work most days.
00:10:30But not today?
00:10:31No.
00:10:32Right.
00:10:34Wilkinson, tell Inspector Watson I want a house-to-house routine set up.
00:10:38I want to know everybody who came down this street after 12 o'clock today.
00:10:41Cars?
00:10:41Cars, bikes, bloody camels, the lot.
00:10:44Particularly everybody who called here.
00:10:46Right, sir.
00:10:47I'll see Inspector Watson.
00:10:48Hi.
00:10:49I saw someone.
00:10:51Oh.
00:10:51But...
00:10:52Who?
00:10:53I don't know exactly.
00:10:54Are you calling here?
00:10:55Yes.
00:10:57Go on, go on, Wilkinson.
00:10:58Get after Mr. Watson.
00:10:59Yes, sir.
00:11:01What time was this?
00:11:03About half past two.
00:11:05About?
00:11:06Well, I couldn't be absolutely certain.
00:11:08But you were certain about the time you found Mrs. Harris?
00:11:10Yes.
00:11:10I left my flat just after a quarter to four.
00:11:12I was listening to the radio.
00:11:14Oh, right.
00:11:14About half past two, then.
00:11:15Yeah.
00:11:16Well, I didn't actually look at the clock just then.
00:11:19But you saw the visitor?
00:11:20Yes, and the van.
00:11:21You were looking at the Harris's house at the time?
00:11:24Well, actually, yes, I was.
00:11:25Wondering whether to walk across.
00:11:27But I didn't feel up to it.
00:11:29Oh, you're ill?
00:11:31First day off in five months with a migraine.
00:11:33Ah, yes.
00:11:34I'm sorry.
00:11:34They're rotten out there.
00:11:36You get migraine.
00:11:37Now and again.
00:11:38Join the club.
00:11:40Well, I was feeling along the shelf for the bottle of useless pills.
00:11:44And I just caught a glimpse of someone walking across from a grey van.
00:11:48So, you went across to find out?
00:11:51Oh, not likely.
00:11:52I took my pills with a glass of water and flopped on the bed for an hour.
00:11:55Man or woman?
00:11:57What?
00:11:57The visitor.
00:11:59Man.
00:11:59At least he was in trousers.
00:12:01You know who he was?
00:12:02No.
00:12:03No idea at all?
00:12:04No.
00:12:05Well, I mean, who do I know who visits in long, greyish overalls?
00:12:09Nobody.
00:12:10That's right.
00:12:11Mind, I have a strange feeling.
00:12:17I've seen him before.
00:12:19It's a feeling I suddenly got.
00:12:21Suddenly?
00:12:22Well, over the past hour or two, while I was sitting in the kitchen.
00:12:26Yeah.
00:12:26Tell me about him.
00:12:27What's there to tell?
00:12:28I don't know.
00:12:30If you think about it.
00:12:32Yeah.
00:12:32Back again, Wilkinson.
00:12:33That didn't take long.
00:12:35No, sir.
00:12:37I called Inspector Watson on the radio.
00:12:39He's setting up the street inquiry.
00:12:41Good.
00:12:42I've been listening to Miss Kingsley's thoughts on the matter.
00:12:45Later on, you'll have the pleasure of writing them all down.
00:12:47There is something, sir.
00:12:48In a minute, lad.
00:12:50Miss Kingsley.
00:12:52At ten to four, you knocked on the door.
00:12:55The front door?
00:12:56Yes.
00:12:58And I opened it.
00:12:59Just like that.
00:12:59No striving, no pushing, no waiting for Mrs. Cyrus to cry out, come in.
00:13:03Well, we were friends.
00:13:05I'm not arguing, Miss Kingsley.
00:13:06You were friends.
00:13:07Go on.
00:13:08Well, I called her name.
00:13:10Rosa?
00:13:11Yes.
00:13:12Rosa.
00:13:13Rosa.
00:13:14Twice.
00:13:15And then I said something like, hello, it's me.
00:13:19She didn't answer?
00:13:20No, but I thought she was in.
00:13:21Why?
00:13:22The television was on.
00:13:24This television?
00:13:25Yeah.
00:13:26What was on?
00:13:27Racing.
00:13:28Horse racing.
00:13:29She liked racing.
00:13:30Not that I know of.
00:13:31There was no sound on the television.
00:13:34Just the picture?
00:13:35Yeah.
00:13:35I could hear the transistor radio loud enough, though.
00:13:38It was on, too?
00:13:39Yes, in her bedroom.
00:13:40So you went in?
00:13:42Yes.
00:13:43The door was open?
00:13:44Yes.
00:13:46She was lying across the bed.
00:13:48It was awful.
00:13:49It always is.
00:13:51There was no one else in the room?
00:13:52No, just Rosa on the bed.
00:13:54And you made no noise?
00:13:56Noise?
00:13:57Uh, scream, maybe.
00:13:58No, but I want to now.
00:14:00I could scream till I'm sick.
00:14:02Not now, love.
00:14:04Just let me sit quietly for a minute, please.
00:14:06Fine.
00:14:07Take all the time you want.
00:14:11Now, background constable, let's hear it again.
00:14:14Well, sir, back door locked, front open.
00:14:18Bedroom?
00:14:18Curtains drawn across.
00:14:21Mrs. Harris on the bed.
00:14:23Her dressing gown half on, half off.
00:14:25So that's what they call it.
00:14:26Look more like a cellophane wrapper to me.
00:14:28They wear them like that nowadays.
00:14:30Oh, they do, they do.
00:14:31You've got first-hand experience, I expect.
00:14:33Well, second-hand, you might say.
00:14:36Do you wear one like that?
00:14:38Me?
00:14:39No, I don't wear anything.
00:14:41Oh, I'm sorry I asked.
00:14:43Do you?
00:14:44What?
00:14:45Wear anything in bed and round the house.
00:14:47Good God, that I do.
00:14:49Pyjamas in bed and a substantial dressing gown when on the move.
00:14:52Married, are you?
00:14:53Yes, 18 years.
00:14:55I feel sorry for your wife.
00:14:59Never mind, go on.
00:15:01Well, the bath was full of water.
00:15:04So she was going to take a bath?
00:15:06I suppose so.
00:15:07Or she'd had one.
00:15:10Well?
00:15:11I'm not so sure, sir.
00:15:13You're not sure?
00:15:14No, sir.
00:15:15Didn't seem important.
00:15:16I mean, she wasn't drowned, was she?
00:15:17The weight of medical evidence seems against it.
00:15:21How about you, Miss Kingsley?
00:15:22Was she killed before or after her bath?
00:15:26After.
00:15:27So sure?
00:15:28Certain.
00:15:29Tell Constable Wilkinson why, will you?
00:15:32Well, I...
00:15:33I felt ill and I went into the bathroom.
00:15:37The water was only lukewarm and a bit scummy.
00:15:41The bath towel was damp.
00:15:42There was tolke all over the bathroom.
00:15:44Yeah.
00:15:44Post bath demise, then.
00:15:47Very observant of you.
00:15:48You'd make a good policeman, Miss Kingsley.
00:15:50No, thanks.
00:15:51Oh?
00:15:51You don't like us?
00:15:53I think you're a crude, bullying mob who don't give a damn about people's feelings.
00:15:58With big boots to match.
00:15:59Show her, Wilkinson.
00:16:00What, sir?
00:16:01Your feet, you fool.
00:16:03Don't bother.
00:16:05The fact is, Miss Kingsley, every time I see somebody like Rosa sprawled out in that state,
00:16:11I feel bloody sick.
00:16:12And I feel worse when it's some sad little lass of 12 or 13.
00:16:18The wretchy Michael's hope won't catch the villain.
00:16:21To do that, we need every scrap of evidence and quick.
00:16:25Bert, you're entitled to your opinion.
00:16:30So, it looks as if Mrs. Harris was watching television when she decided to have her bath.
00:16:35She turned down the sound and locked the back door.
00:16:37Bert forgot the front door.
00:16:39Maybe, Constable.
00:16:39So, she had a bath and went into the bedroom to dress, to go out, perhaps.
00:16:46No.
00:16:47At least, I don't think so.
00:16:49Oh?
00:16:49Why not?
00:16:50Well, there were no clothes out.
00:16:53I mean, most of those she'd taken off were on the bathroom floor, but there were no fresh ones out in the bedroom.
00:17:00You think that's important?
00:17:01Well, yeah.
00:17:02Rosa's a bit like me.
00:17:03I mean, was.
00:17:04I mean, well, she'd get out most of her fresh things before getting into the bath.
00:17:09A lot of women do that.
00:17:11Yes.
00:17:13So, we can take it she wasn't expecting to get dressed for some time.
00:17:18Well, we don't really know that, do we, sir?
00:17:20No, no.
00:17:20Let's just play the game.
00:17:21It might explain the front door.
00:17:23Well, I don't see that.
00:17:24Well, she was, not to put too fine a point on it, expecting someone to call.
00:17:29A friend, maybe.
00:17:30Such as?
00:17:31You?
00:17:32No, she didn't know I was at home.
00:17:34A male friend.
00:17:35That's just what I was trying to say earlier, sir.
00:17:38I didn't realise.
00:17:39Well, something new, is it?
00:17:40The neighbours, sir, it seems she had a regular male visitor.
00:17:45Not always the same one.
00:17:47Typical.
00:17:48Is it?
00:17:48Oh, come on.
00:17:49You know it is.
00:17:51Sex-starved, nosy parfer's just dying to get in on the act.
00:17:55Could be.
00:17:56Today, Wilkinson?
00:17:57Yes, sir.
00:17:58And one of them says she could identify him.
00:18:01And a van, apparently.
00:18:03You have no name?
00:18:04I know, sir.
00:18:05Inspector Watson's arranged to take a written statement from the woman.
00:18:08Good, good.
00:18:10Well, Miss Kingsley, how about your chap in grey?
00:18:13Are we going to spend days tracking him down?
00:18:16Are you going to help us?
00:18:17She wasn't promiscuous.
00:18:18That's not the question.
00:18:20Just because she's found strangled, without any clothes, everybody's going to swear she was a tramp.
00:18:24You saw a man call.
00:18:26And she's dead.
00:18:28Who was he?
00:18:29No idea.
00:18:30But you saw him?
00:18:31Yes.
00:18:33It wasn't Martin.
00:18:35Ah?
00:18:36It wasn't?
00:18:36No.
00:18:37Martin is the one the nausea neighbours will identify.
00:18:40Yes.
00:18:41Martin who?
00:18:41I don't know.
00:18:43Come on, Miss Kingsley.
00:18:44Look, she didn't tell me everything.
00:18:45And you're her friend, close enough to walk in without knocking.
00:18:48That's right.
00:18:49I knew Rosa for ten years on and off.
00:18:51And you're still trying to tell us you didn't know the name of her...
00:18:54A lover, yes.
00:18:55Matter of fact, I never asked.
00:18:57But you knew about it.
00:18:58Yes, I knew about most of her men.
00:19:00And you still say she wasn't promiscuous?
00:19:02Yes.
00:19:03She took them on one at a time, Sergeant.
00:19:05Chief Inspector, actually.
00:19:09I don't think Detective Constable Wilkinson introduced us properly.
00:19:13John Turner.
00:19:14Detective Chief Inspector Turner.
00:19:16You'd like to see my identity card.
00:19:18No, thanks.
00:19:19Look, if you don't know his name, can you tell us where he lives?
00:19:22No.
00:19:23Where he works?
00:19:25Yes.
00:19:26But I'm not sure I should.
00:19:28It would help us.
00:19:29And Mrs. Harris, in a way.
00:19:36He's a car salesman.
00:19:37He sold them their last two cars.
00:19:39Yeah, which dealer would that be?
00:19:42We'll find out soon enough, Miss Kingsley.
00:19:45I dare say Mr. Harris will tell us.
00:19:49Elton Way Motors.
00:19:51Well, it shouldn't be difficult to pick him up.
00:19:52Depends whether he's still hereabouts to be picked up.
00:19:54There's no point.
00:19:55He wasn't the man I saw.
00:19:57So you say.
00:19:59Well, while I trot over to Mrs. Elton Way Motors,
00:20:02you can go along with Constable Wilkinson,
00:20:04and he'll write down your version of today's events.
00:20:07Yeah, you're not going on your own, are you, sir?
00:20:09No, no.
00:20:09I'll get Graham to drive me.
00:20:11He knows more about cars than you.
00:20:13He's written enough of them off.
00:20:16And, uh, take your time with Miss Kingsley.
00:20:19So get a full description of our man
00:20:21and one or two of the earlier ones.
00:20:23Treat her to another cup of tea.
00:20:25These book is going on about community policing
00:20:27and he'll prove of that.
00:20:29Treat her.
00:20:30And have one yourself.
00:20:32It might give you the energy you'll need
00:20:33to join Inspector Watson's house-to-house inquiry.
00:20:37Tonight, sir?
00:20:38The sooner you start, the better.
00:20:40The whole avenue?
00:20:41Every house.
00:20:42Both sides.
00:20:43About 90, I'd say, counting the one we're in.
00:20:47See you again, Miss Kingsley.
00:20:49We can have a nice chat about police brutality.
00:20:55Oh, I should have known.
00:20:57Known what?
00:20:59He dumped me on the house-to-house.
00:21:01It's bad?
00:21:03It's bloody awful.
00:21:05We'll be at it till midnight and all tomorrow.
00:21:08And do you know what that cunning old bugger's doing?
00:21:10Talking to the garage, you know?
00:21:11Yeah, for half an hour.
00:21:13And then it's home to wife Laura's steak and peas and chips
00:21:16smothered in rich brown gravy.
00:21:18And Dan Graham's there eating it with him.
00:21:22How do you know that?
00:21:23Yeah, he told me.
00:21:24Just to tantalise me.
00:21:27What will you have?
00:21:29A glass of beer and a bag of crisps.
00:21:31Salt and vinegar.
00:21:33Cheese and onion.
00:21:34You don't like him, do you?
00:21:37I don't get paid to like or dislike.
00:21:41He can do me good.
00:21:43No.
00:21:44Well, he's a hard man.
00:21:46Hard on himself and every poor bug around him.
00:21:49But he gets the results.
00:21:51And his constables get promotion.
00:21:53Once you get picked to suffer his sarcastic tongue
00:21:56at close quarters, you're on the way up.
00:21:59Like you?
00:22:00Yeah, I hope so.
00:22:02It's me or Dan Graham this time.
00:22:05I've lasted four months.
00:22:06It can only get better.
00:22:10How about this bloke you saw?
00:22:12I saw him.
00:22:14Not their regular fella?
00:22:15No.
00:22:16You seen others?
00:22:17Other what?
00:22:18Irregulars.
00:22:19Some of them.
00:22:21I hope you can describe him better than this bloke today.
00:22:24I only saw him for a second or two.
00:22:26But you saw him?
00:22:27Yes.
00:22:28Positive?
00:22:29Positive.
00:22:32What sort of a woman was she?
00:22:34Very nice.
00:22:36How nice?
00:22:37Too good for most of the men she had.
00:22:40Particularly her husband.
00:22:41He's bad?
00:22:43He's a big, boozy, foul-mouthed, self-made heap of dirt.
00:22:48Lordy, lordy.
00:22:50You wouldn't be liberated by any chance.
00:22:53No chance in this male-dominated concentration camp.
00:22:57But I'm not prejudiced.
00:22:58He really is a big boozy.
00:23:00Yeah, fair enough.
00:23:01I got the message.
00:23:03Louie Harris.
00:23:05Builder, contractor, fixer.
00:23:08Never short of money, never short of women.
00:23:10Where did he meet Rosa?
00:23:13The local entertainment club.
00:23:15She worked there, so did I.
00:23:17While I was waiting for the job in the hospital laboratory.
00:23:19I see.
00:23:20You don't, you know.
00:23:22We were treated like slaves.
00:23:25Bloody little dog's body assistants.
00:23:27Washing glasses and showing our bums to the customers while we watered their drinks.
00:23:32You ever been in one of these clubs?
00:23:34Yes.
00:23:35Part of the job.
00:23:37On a Sunday lunch when the strippers are sweating it out in front of the British working man.
00:23:41Yeah.
00:23:41Then you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
00:23:42I am.
00:23:43How long did it last?
00:23:47Six months for me.
00:23:48Then I went into the hospital lab.
00:23:50And you're still there?
00:23:51Not in the lab.
00:23:52I'm in the computer unit now.
00:23:54Oh, a clever one.
00:23:55I'm qualified, if that's what you mean.
00:23:57That's what I mean.
00:24:00What happened to your fellow slave?
00:24:03Well, she was qualified too.
00:24:06But she married Louis Harris.
00:24:09He was a pretty bad career choice, despite all the gold-plated bathroom fittings.
00:24:14So, she got herself another man?
00:24:17After a couple of years.
00:24:19More than one?
00:24:20Yes.
00:24:20How many?
00:24:21Oh, does it matter?
00:24:22How many?
00:24:23Look, I never counted.
00:24:24And she said three or four.
00:24:29Did Harris know?
00:24:30Oh, you're joking.
00:24:31Why?
00:24:32He's a fully paid-up member of the White Thumping Brigade.
00:24:35Oh, violent.
00:24:36Pretty rough.
00:24:38He's been in your hands before now.
00:24:40No.
00:24:41I don't recall.
00:24:43I mean the fuzz.
00:24:45Small wars in a pub after football matches.
00:24:47He gets off.
00:24:48Always?
00:24:49Except once, when he was bound over.
00:24:52He can afford a good solicitor, you know.
00:24:54So, he'd have thumped her if he'd known about these blokes.
00:24:57He'd have killed her.
00:24:58Somebody did.
00:24:59Yeah.
00:25:00But he'd have killed the bloke as well.
00:25:03You sure it wasn't Mr. Harris you saw this afternoon?
00:25:06A man.
00:25:07Just another man in grey overalls.
00:25:10Casual collar.
00:25:11Maybe.
00:25:12Maybe.
00:25:13There was the van.
00:25:15Where?
00:25:1520 yards beyond the house.
00:25:17Collar.
00:25:18Grey.
00:25:19You like the overalls?
00:25:20Yeah.
00:25:21Grey van.
00:25:22No marks.
00:25:23A tall man in a grey overall jacket.
00:25:28Casual, maybe.
00:25:30Yeah.
00:25:32Touting.
00:25:33Selling.
00:25:33Walks up to the front door.
00:25:35Finds it's open.
00:25:36Walks in.
00:25:37And kills her.
00:25:38You think so?
00:25:39It happens.
00:25:42Word of warning.
00:25:43What?
00:25:44Chief Inspector Bloody Turner.
00:25:45Now, he will be back to nag you.
00:25:48He never gives up.
00:25:50Don't let him get you down.
00:25:51I won't, thanks.
00:25:54Are you really going off to start this house-to-house inquiry?
00:25:57Me and 20 others.
00:25:59They'll have started already.
00:26:01I'll see they give you a place to miss, Miss Gingsley.
00:26:03Thanks.
00:26:05It's been a pretty lousy day, and it isn't getting much better.
00:26:09Come on, then.
00:26:10I'll run you back.
00:26:12Anyone else in the house?
00:26:13A couple of teachers in the upstairs flat.
00:26:16Men teachers.
00:26:17No.
00:26:17In part one of Afternoon Call by Ivor Wilson, Geoffrey Hinsliff played Detective Chief
00:26:28Inspector Turner, Russell Dixon as Constable Wilkinson, and Jane Collins as Sally Kingsley.
00:26:34Afternoon Call was produced for the BBC by Tony Clip.
00:26:37It's time now for Afternoon Call by Ivor Wilson, a detective story in three parts with Geoffrey
00:26:42Hinsliff as Detective Chief Inspector Turner, Russell Dixon as Constable Wilkinson, and
00:26:47Jane Collins as Sally Kingsley.
00:26:49Part two, suspects and motives.
00:26:52An attractive married woman is murdered, and her body found by a friend, Sally Kingsley.
00:26:57Inquiries by Detective Chief Inspector Taylor and his men centre on a van parked outside
00:27:03the house that afternoon.
00:27:05Apparently, Rosa Harris had been expecting a visitor.
00:27:11Chapman, that was very good.
00:27:13Very good.
00:27:15Ten more minutes listening to you, and I'll believe the earth is flat.
00:27:19Now, let's try again.
00:27:21Oh, come on, Chief Inspector.
00:27:23I've been through it twice.
00:27:25A pack of lies, and your lies aren't very consistent.
00:27:27I'm confused with all your questions.
00:27:30You had an affair with Mrs. Harris.
00:27:32I didn't kill her.
00:27:32You had an affair.
00:27:35I've been seeing her.
00:27:37Yes.
00:27:38Tell him, Graham.
00:27:39For nearly a year, by our reckoning.
00:27:42Seven months at the most.
00:27:43You kept count?
00:27:44No.
00:27:46It's that long since they bought the cars from the firm.
00:27:49How often did you see her?
00:27:50It's hard to say.
00:27:51Often?
00:27:52No.
00:27:53Regularly?
00:27:55Fairy.
00:27:55Always at the bungalow?
00:27:57No.
00:27:58Your place?
00:27:58No, I can't.
00:28:00Oh, I forgot.
00:28:01You're married.
00:28:02Two kids and a wife.
00:28:03It might have been a bit awkward for you.
00:28:06Ah, you're back, Wilkinson.
00:28:08Sir?
00:28:08Got something for me?
00:28:10Quite a lot, sir.
00:28:12Four people spotted the van.
00:28:15Three are quite willing to attend an identity parade.
00:28:18They described Mr. Chapman to a tea.
00:28:21They saw him this afternoon?
00:28:22Yes.
00:28:24There's others who knew he was a regular visitor.
00:28:26They would.
00:28:28I didn't kill her.
00:28:29But you were there this afternoon.
00:28:30I haven't denied it.
00:28:32Why did you run when you saw us?
00:28:34Panic.
00:28:35I was bloody upset.
00:28:36Out of control.
00:28:37Hmm.
00:28:38Emotionally disturbed.
00:28:40That's what our medical man tells us.
00:28:42Common in criminals just after committing a crime.
00:28:45What did they expect?
00:28:46It wasn't three hours after I'd found her.
00:28:48Dead?
00:28:49Yes.
00:28:50Very upsetting.
00:28:51Yes.
00:28:52Very.
00:28:53You were planning to marry her, like?
00:28:56No.
00:28:56Other commitments, Graham.
00:28:58On both sides.
00:28:59You rang your wife, did you, Mr. Chapman?
00:29:01Yes.
00:29:02What did you tell her?
00:29:03I was helping you out.
00:29:06One of my customers had been killed.
00:29:07We should have told her, sir.
00:29:09You think so, Wilkinson?
00:29:10Well, she's going to find out in the end.
00:29:12Tomorrow's papers, maybe.
00:29:13I don't see why.
00:29:14Oh, don't you?
00:29:15Think what they make of it.
00:29:17Car salesman knocking off neglected wife.
00:29:20Afternoon assignments to discuss the merits of the Metro.
00:29:22Or was he the Sierra?
00:29:24Asked you to marry her, did she?
00:29:25No.
00:29:25Then when you backed off, she got nasty.
00:29:27Threatened to tell you why.
00:29:28No.
00:29:28Just another fun-loving bastard scared she'd blow the whistle on you.
00:29:32She was dead.
00:29:33I keep telling you.
00:29:33All right.
00:29:34That'll do, Wilkinson.
00:29:37Now, let's hear it again.
00:29:38Time of arrival.
00:29:39It's a quarter past three.
00:29:43We've got witnesses who put it earlier.
00:29:45All right, Graham.
00:29:45Let Mr. Chapman have his say.
00:29:47Yes, sir.
00:29:49I parked the van near the house.
00:29:51Gray?
00:29:52Green.
00:29:53It belongs to the firm.
00:29:54We all use it.
00:29:55But not to visit Rosa Harris?
00:29:57No.
00:29:57Huh?
00:29:58What next?
00:29:59I went to the house.
00:30:01Door unlocked?
00:30:02Yes.
00:30:02Is it usually unlocked?
00:30:04No.
00:30:04I have a key.
00:30:06I still think we should tell his wife.
00:30:08You're that certain, Constable?
00:30:10Yes, sir.
00:30:11Not very convincing, are you, Mr. Chapman?
00:30:14What was she like?
00:30:16Rose?
00:30:17Yes.
00:30:19Very nice.
00:30:21It's a funny word.
00:30:22Nice.
00:30:23Is your wife nice, Mr. Chapman?
00:30:25I love my wife, Inspector.
00:30:27When?
00:30:27Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays?
00:30:29I said we'd let Mr. Chapman have his say, Wilkinson.
00:30:32Yes, sir.
00:30:32And you also loved Rose Harris.
00:30:35Is that it?
00:30:36Oh, God.
00:30:36Oh, no.
00:30:37Yes, yes.
00:30:38It was different.
00:30:40It was bloody marvellous when she was on form.
00:30:43I see.
00:30:44What did you do?
00:30:45Eh?
00:30:46When you went into the house?
00:30:48I looked at the TV.
00:30:50It was on?
00:30:50Yes.
00:30:51Racing, Chepstow.
00:30:52What race?
00:30:53No idea.
00:30:55I just watched it for a minute.
00:30:57They were getting them into the starting gate.
00:30:59So you'll remember the names of some of the horses, perhaps?
00:31:01No.
00:31:02TV on.
00:31:03What next?
00:31:04I heard the radio.
00:31:06Pop music.
00:31:07Bloody mindless pop.
00:31:09And she liked it.
00:31:11In the bedroom.
00:31:12And that's where I looked next.
00:31:14She was across the bed, dead.
00:31:16You didn't try to revive her?
00:31:18No, she was dead, Inspector.
00:31:20Finished.
00:31:20Dead.
00:31:21So you left?
00:31:22Yes.
00:31:23In her, are they?
00:31:24I panicked.
00:31:25What would you have done?
00:31:26I wasn't there.
00:31:27I shouldn't have been there, either.
00:31:29I just wanted to get out fast.
00:31:31I don't remember getting in the van, but I must have.
00:31:34And I was in the bog back at the firm, heaving my guts up.
00:31:37You don't look that well now, sir.
00:31:39Too much dinner, I'd say.
00:31:40Shock, Wilkinson.
00:31:42Ah.
00:31:42Now we've seen it before.
00:31:44Pale, perspiring, trembling, nausea, even tears.
00:31:47Not out of the way.
00:31:48Flip Chapel's just strangled a woman.
00:31:50I keep telling you I didn't.
00:31:52All right, Mr. Chapman.
00:31:54We'll leave you to think about it for a while.
00:31:56There's nothing to think about, Inspector.
00:31:57Rosa was the last person I'd ever want to kill.
00:32:00You've got to believe me.
00:32:01I'll try, Mr. Chapman.
00:32:02I'll try.
00:32:04But I'm somewhere from being convinced.
00:32:06I'll have some tea sent in.
00:32:08All right for cigarettes, huh?
00:32:10I don't smoke.
00:32:11Ah, good for you.
00:32:13Wilkinson here needs his bloody chimney sweeping every fortnight.
00:32:16Am I under arrest, then?
00:32:18No, no, no, no.
00:32:20Just giving us a hand.
00:32:22So I can go if I want.
00:32:24How about it, Graham?
00:32:26I wouldn't advise it, sir.
00:32:27We might just have to put a car outside your house.
00:32:30Not very nice, really.
00:32:32I'd stay, Mr. Chapman.
00:32:34We really do have your interests at heart.
00:32:38What are we going to do about him?
00:32:39Let him go.
00:32:40Oh, that's great.
00:32:41He'll not go far.
00:32:42He did it.
00:32:43But our lords and masters are hardly convinced.
00:32:46He could have called in after the event.
00:32:47And pigs can fly.
00:32:49What's worrying them?
00:32:50The idea that we might have a maniac on our hands who could do it again whilst we're waiting
00:32:55for Mr. Chapman to cop up the goods.
00:32:58Your witnesses didn't help much, Wilkie.
00:33:00I tried, sir.
00:33:01Too bloody hard, if you ask me.
00:33:04Grey vans, green vans, blue vans, police cars, two tunnel lorries.
00:33:07Any time from 224.
00:33:10We'd never have got a committal on that lot.
00:33:12God above.
00:33:13Three of them thought you were the villain.
00:33:15Idiots.
00:33:16Yeah, well, they weren't describing Chapman.
00:33:19You'd have thought Forensic would have come up with something by now.
00:33:21They will.
00:33:22Give them time.
00:33:23You think Chapman did it?
00:33:25I can't tell.
00:33:27A bit too simple, really.
00:33:30Boyfriend, open house, lovers quarrel, bang.
00:33:33He knocks her down and has her tights round her throat without thinking.
00:33:36That's how I see it, sir.
00:33:39Tights.
00:33:40Now, there's something for you two to argue about.
00:33:43What about them?
00:33:45No clothes in the bedroom.
00:33:46I didn't see any.
00:33:48Nor did Miss Kingsley.
00:33:50Where did he get the tights, then?
00:33:52From the bathroom.
00:33:54Off a radiator, anywhere.
00:33:56Exactly.
00:33:57Premeditated.
00:33:58What?
00:33:59Premeditated.
00:34:00Whoever did it was well prepared before he walked into the bedroom.
00:34:04You think so?
00:34:04She knew him all right.
00:34:06It was off a guard.
00:34:07Probably true.
00:34:08And Martin Chapman fits that bill.
00:34:10But we're letting him go, sir.
00:34:12Because he says she was dead when he got there, and we can't disprove it.
00:34:15No, he did it all right.
00:34:16But if he didn't, who did?
00:34:20Her husband, for one.
00:34:22Ah.
00:34:23The morning, Mr. Harris.
00:34:26The tough, boozy animal, according to Miss Kingsley.
00:34:29How did he strike the pair of you?
00:34:32Subdued.
00:34:33Shocked?
00:34:34No.
00:34:34Angry.
00:34:35Against who?
00:34:37The murder.
00:34:38Ah.
00:34:39Of course, Mr. Harris wasn't anywhere near the crime at the time it was committed.
00:34:42Wasn't he?
00:34:44Don't ask questions, Wilkinson.
00:34:46If you know something, tell us.
00:34:47Otherwise, shut up.
00:34:49It's just that Graham wasn't too happy about Mr. Harris.
00:34:53Why not?
00:34:54After you'd picked up Chapman, sir, I chased around Oakley, checking on Harris' story.
00:34:59I wasn't convinced.
00:35:00Of course, sir.
00:35:02Well, let me have the gist of your worries before I see the formidable Mr. Harris.
00:35:07Right, sir.
00:35:08And keep an eye on the Kingsley girl, Wilkinson.
00:35:09She's the only bloody witness we have with the intelligence of a fly, and she's going to identify her, ma'am.
00:35:15You think so?
00:35:16I know, so sooner or later.
00:35:19Well, in that case, I'll look after her personally, if you see what I mean.
00:35:23Keep it professional, Wilkinson.
00:35:24I don't want any complaints about familiar policemen.
00:35:29This is nice.
00:35:31Yeah, handy after a concert.
00:35:34More coffee?
00:35:35No, thanks.
00:35:37I've still got some.
00:35:39The cure?
00:35:40No, thank you.
00:35:41Alcohol isn't one of my vices.
00:35:45Very surprising.
00:35:46Very surprising man.
00:35:47Why?
00:35:48This.
00:35:50I somehow never thought we had musical policemen with cordon bleu taste.
00:35:55More of them than you think.
00:35:57I blow a pretty fair trumpet in the divisional dance band when I'm not into the mysteries of French cuisine.
00:36:04You don't.
00:36:06And not in regulation boots, either.
00:36:08But some of us are almost human, you know.
00:36:12So it seems.
00:36:14I need lessons.
00:36:16Is that a request?
00:36:17Uh, well...
00:36:19Then I accept.
00:36:22Could be a pretty long course.
00:36:23You're not married, are you?
00:36:26Yeah.
00:36:28Never seriously considered it.
00:36:31Too much involved with a job.
00:36:33Hmm.
00:36:34Sounds as though it's your education that needs the polishing up.
00:36:37You're volunteering to do that?
00:36:39Hmm.
00:36:40Needs thinking about.
00:36:41Hmm.
00:36:43How's the case going?
00:36:45Oh, that.
00:36:47Yeah, we let Chapman go today.
00:36:50I said it wasn't him.
00:36:52Yeah.
00:36:53You did.
00:36:55Tell me who it was, then.
00:36:57I wish I could.
00:36:59I keep feeling I've seen the man before.
00:37:06Or since.
00:37:09It wasn't you, by any chance.
00:37:12Me?
00:37:13Well, he looked a lot more like you than Martin Chapman.
00:37:17On a Thursday afternoon, you must be joking.
00:37:20More coffee?
00:37:22Something stronger.
00:37:23Brandy?
00:37:24Fine.
00:37:26Why the change of mind?
00:37:29Well, if it isn't Martin Chapman or Louis Harris,
00:37:32it could be another bloody maniac on the loose,
00:37:35and I don't mind telling you I'm pretty damn scared.
00:37:41Next time, it could be me.
00:37:45Through you, sir.
00:37:47Thank you, Graham.
00:37:49Give Miss Harris a chair.
00:37:50Sir.
00:37:51Put in her book.
00:37:53Yes, sir.
00:37:54I'm sorry to have to ask you to come in again, Mr Harris,
00:37:57so soon after your wife's death.
00:38:00So am I.
00:38:01Any idea who did it?
00:38:03Ideas, yes.
00:38:04Hard evidence, no.
00:38:06Well, I hope it's not going to drag on like the rest of your cases.
00:38:08I have a living to make, you know.
00:38:10Yes, we all have a living to make, Mr Harris.
00:38:13I'm very sorry about your wife.
00:38:15Being sorry doesn't help much.
00:38:17No, no, I suppose it doesn't.
00:38:18These things take time.
00:38:20Too long, if you ask me.
00:38:21I take it our people are now all out of your house.
00:38:25Yes.
00:38:25Well, that's near enough a record for this kind of case.
00:38:29Ready for the inquest on Friday?
00:38:31Ready as I'll ever be.
00:38:32Very much a formality, this one.
00:38:34Medical evidence and so on.
00:38:35It means you'll be able to arrange the funeral.
00:38:37I'm leaving that to the undertaker.
00:38:39Funerals aren't my line of business.
00:38:41No, mine.
00:38:43Murders, as far as I go.
00:38:46Look, I'd like to have another look at the day your wife died.
00:38:50Here we go again, eh?
00:38:51At what time did you leave that day?
00:38:54Half seven in the morning.
00:38:56Usual times?
00:38:57More or less.
00:38:58We don't all have cushy office jobs that start at nine.
00:39:01We don't.
00:39:02Go on from there.
00:39:04I was on the site.
00:39:05What site?
00:39:06Which site do you bloody think?
00:39:07The hospital extension at Allenby Park.
00:39:10You were there all day?
00:39:11More or less.
00:39:13How about the less to start with?
00:39:16Well, I could have been away a minute or two here and there, like.
00:39:18In just a minute or two.
00:39:21A pub lunch and a trip to a builder's merchant.
00:39:24Aye, we know about them.
00:39:25Oh, do you now?
00:39:26Routine, Mr. Harris.
00:39:28Constable Graham has the times.
00:39:30Tell him, Graham.
00:39:31Yes, sir.
00:39:32Arrived on site 8.15.
00:39:34Stayed till 9.30.
00:39:36Arrived builder's yard 9.45.
00:39:38Back on site till 11.40.
00:39:41Greenman pub, 12.05 to 1.00 p.m.
00:39:43A couple of whiskeys and a pint of export bitter with the usual lunch, steak pie, peas and chips.
00:39:49And no other trace from 1 o'clock until 4.30, when Inspector Raymond from the local police contacted Mr. Harris as he was driving onto the building site and informed him of his wife's death.
00:39:59Not on site at all during the afternoon Mrs. Harris was killed?
00:40:02No, sir.
00:40:03You snooping bastards.
00:40:05That's what we get paid for, Mr. Harris.
00:40:07It's a diabolical liberty.
00:40:08Routine inquiry, sir.
00:40:11You do agree with our times, I take it?
00:40:13I agree with nothing.
00:40:14No.
00:40:15Zero.
00:40:15Bloody nothing.
00:40:17Then it could turn out to be a long morning for all of us.
00:40:20I'm not staying here all morning.
00:40:21You'll stay as long as I want, Mr. Harris.
00:40:25Bullshit, Chief Inspector.
00:40:26You have ten more minutes of my valuable time than I'm walking out.
00:40:30Unless that is you've actually charged me with some offence.
00:40:33Take your pick.
00:40:34Well, that's plain enough, sir.
00:40:36Tell him what it's all about, Graham.
00:40:38Yes, sir.
00:40:40Mr. Harris, we are legally entitled to detain you for further questioning regarding the death of your wife.
00:40:45And if necessary, I will arrest you and detain you.
00:40:49If after 24 hours no charges are made against you, you'll be at liberty to leave.
00:40:53You're daft, a pair of you.
00:40:54Your wife's dead, Mr. Harris.
00:40:56Where were you when it happened?
00:40:57None of your bloody business.
00:40:59Nowhere near 26 Rosewood Avenue?
00:41:01Miles away.
00:41:01You offering any evidence?
00:41:02No.
00:41:03You have to accept my word.
00:41:04Your word?
00:41:05Don't make me laugh.
00:41:06You're a liar and a cheat.
00:41:07Prove it.
00:41:08No, not me, Mr. Harris.
00:41:10How about the inland revenue, for a start?
00:41:13And then I could get some of our fraud lads to start digging about in your local government contracts.
00:41:17They'll find out there.
00:41:18Oh, I reckon they will if they did deep enough.
00:41:21And I doubt whether anybody will touch you with a barge ball when they hear you're being investigated for corruption.
00:41:26And I'll make sure that they hear about it.
00:41:29You bastard, that's dirty.
00:41:30So is corruption, Mr. Harris.
00:41:32There's a telephone.
00:41:34Ring your lawyer.
00:41:35Tell him you've decided not to cooperate with the police.
00:41:38Go on.
00:41:38There's no catch.
00:41:40I've told you what the alternative is.
00:41:42I can't say any fairer than that, can I?
00:41:44I don't see what the hell you're going on about.
00:41:46Well, think about it.
00:41:49I'll take your time.
00:41:51I'm in no hurry.
00:41:53You'll never be able to charge me.
00:41:55Want to make a little bet?
00:41:57Stuff your bet.
00:41:58Get on with your questions.
00:42:02Eight years married, I believe.
00:42:04A month or two over.
00:42:06You get on with your wife.
00:42:07Who says you have to get on with your wife?
00:42:09No law about it.
00:42:10How about it?
00:42:11Well enough.
00:42:12Well enough to keep her faithful to you?
00:42:14Oh, now, wait a minute.
00:42:15Take as long as you like.
00:42:18Fact one, she had a male friend.
00:42:20Fact two, she'd have others.
00:42:22Fact three, you knew about them.
00:42:24If I'd known anything like that, I'd have killed the bitch.
00:42:26Exactly, Mr. Harris.
00:42:28You'd have killed her.
00:42:30What does that mean?
00:42:31That you knew about one of them at least.
00:42:33The last one.
00:42:34And it's very possible that you did kill her.
00:42:36No way.
00:42:37We have statements from neighbours who heard your rows and saw them.
00:42:41Pity you nothing better to do than listen to rat-faced old biddies or say anything for a bit of publicity.
00:42:46Don't let it worry you.
00:42:47We want a murderer, not a wife, Peter.
00:42:50You know the fellow who's sniffing around the bungalow?
00:42:52Mr. Harris, that'd be telling.
00:42:54I can always find out.
00:42:55I very much doubt it.
00:42:57Your turn, Graham.
00:42:58Yes, sir.
00:43:00Coming back to Thursday afternoon, you dropped out of sight for three and a half hours.
00:43:06Plenty of time to drive over, kill your wife and drive back before the police contacted you in Ilpley.
00:43:11Do I have to listen to his blathering?
00:43:13Makes sense to me.
00:43:16At what time was she killed?
00:43:18Sometime between two and four.
00:43:20All you have to do is tell us where you were.
00:43:22We'll check and you can go.
00:43:23If you don't, we're going to keep you on our list.
00:43:28And that means looking into every dark corner, talking to your neighbours, your workmen, your suppliers, your gumblings.
00:43:34All right, all right.
00:43:35How far are you looking?
00:43:37Meaning what?
00:43:38There's others involved.
00:43:40Oh, I see.
00:43:43Others?
00:43:44Others.
00:43:44Our leaders and betters.
00:43:46You could say that.
00:43:48Anything I say is confidential?
00:43:50Depends.
00:43:52Off the record, then?
00:43:53Try me.
00:43:54What about him?
00:43:56Pencil away, Graham.
00:43:57Right, sir.
00:43:59No tape recorders?
00:44:00Judges don't like them much.
00:44:03Well, okay.
00:44:05But if you blow the whistle on me, then I'll blow it on a parcel of very important bods who have enough friends to make life bloody uncomfortable for you.
00:44:14Get it?
00:44:15Got it.
00:44:16Right.
00:44:17And I'll tell you where I was.
00:44:23Oh, dear, oh, dear, oh, dear.
00:44:25What a lovely lady.
00:44:27Hey, lads.
00:44:27You think so?
00:44:28Ah, didn't you?
00:44:29Well, hardly.
00:44:31Old-fashioned charm.
00:44:32You young ones can't really appreciate it.
00:44:35A right old bag, if you ask me.
00:44:36A right old bag indeed, Wilkinson.
00:44:38Corrupting at least half a dozen silly young women for the entertainment of silly old buggers who ought to know better.
00:44:44What did she say?
00:44:45After inviting us into the boudoir, you mean?
00:44:49Oh, more or less what we expected.
00:44:51Harris was there, all right.
00:44:52Half one to half three.
00:44:53Pressed hard enough, she'd have come up with his blood group and sperm count.
00:44:57Can't we pull her in?
00:44:58No, thank you very much.
00:45:00The other customers there that afternoon would support Harris's story before setting out to crucify the lot of us before tea time.
00:45:07Yes, sir.
00:45:09So it's back to Chapman?
00:45:11Yeah, it is.
00:45:12But unless our Rosa had another fellow under her blanket.
00:45:17A double act?
00:45:18Well...
00:45:19I don't think so.
00:45:20Why not?
00:45:21Well, not according to Sally Kingsley.
00:45:24Ah, Miss Kingsley.
00:45:25Sally, is it now?
00:45:27I was forgetting her.
00:45:29How is she?
00:45:30Oh, fine.
00:45:31Looking after her still?
00:45:33Well, you asked me to.
00:45:34A professional like.
00:45:36So I did.
00:45:37Any prospect of her helping us out with the identification?
00:45:39Oh, no.
00:45:40Not a chance.
00:45:42I'll keep listening, though.
00:45:43Do that.
00:45:44How's your house-to-house getting on, Wilkinson?
00:45:46Okay, sir.
00:45:47Why haven't I had the report, then?
00:45:49Er, nothing firm yet.
00:45:51It's a hell of a street for offbeat visitors.
00:45:54Most are.
00:45:55Lots of police activity, is there?
00:45:58Sir?
00:45:58Postman, postman, callman, laundromen, fishmen, scrap merchants, bums and policemen.
00:46:06And policemen.
00:46:07Right?
00:46:08Yes, sir.
00:46:09Hmm.
00:46:10In a nice middle-class patch.
00:46:13Don't you think it's funny?
00:46:14Regular beat, sir.
00:46:15Hmm, maybe, maybe.
00:46:17Find out who's on the patrols.
00:46:19Yes, sir.
00:46:21And don't sound so bloody enthusiastic.
00:46:24If we're looking for a nutter, one of our lads might have seen him.
00:46:29I'll have problems with my landlord, if you keep calling.
00:46:32Sorry.
00:46:33He's sensitive about the casual mail, since he's fell inside for living on immoral earnings.
00:46:37I'm no casual mail.
00:46:39I'm a police officer.
00:46:40Worse.
00:46:41You lot ran him in, despite the fact that more than a few of you were enjoying free access to his team.
00:46:48Anyway, where's your warrant card?
00:46:49What?
00:46:50Warrant card.
00:46:51Local radio and papers.
00:46:53Until you catch the sod who killed Rosa, we have to lock all our doors and turn away strange man.
00:46:59It's out, is it?
00:47:00Every news bulletin.
00:47:01Turner's idea.
00:47:04Sensible, I suppose.
00:47:05So it's not Martin Chapman?
00:47:07Who knows?
00:47:09He says she was dead at quarter past three.
00:47:11You say it wasn't Chapman going into the house at 2.30.
00:47:14It wasn't.
00:47:15Why not?
00:47:16Wrong build.
00:47:17Chapman's slim.
00:47:19Whippity.
00:47:20This bloke was big.
00:47:22Big as you.
00:47:23Oh, thank you.
00:47:24Don't start that again.
00:47:26What's that in aid of?
00:47:27Bloody Turner.
00:47:29He's spotted a few panda cars in the house-to-house reports, and I'm having to check all police visits and personnel.
00:47:35Oh, you weren't among them.
00:47:37Of course I was bloody among them.
00:47:39I was 18 months on the plot patrol before transferring to the CID, and there's been more than the usual amount of crime down Rosewood Avenue.
00:47:47Well, haven't you noticed?
00:47:50It's awful, isn't it?
00:47:52What is?
00:47:54Well, until this bastard's caught, everyone's under suspicion.
00:47:58That's the way it goes.
00:48:01Turner asked me to ask you about Rosie's other men.
00:48:05Apart from Chapman, that is.
00:48:07I can't help.
00:48:08Sorry.
00:48:09Or won't?
00:48:09I can't.
00:48:11I mean, she didn't exactly flaunt them.
00:48:15Now and again, I heard her talk to them on the telephone.
00:48:18But nothing to identify the bloke we're looking for?
00:48:21No.
00:48:22You tell me if you remember.
00:48:23Oh, yes.
00:48:25Yeah, I mean me.
00:48:26Not Mr. Turner.
00:48:29If I could do with a leg up towards promotion.
00:48:32Is that all you see it as?
00:48:34No, I want to nail the bastard.
00:48:35But I could still do with the credits instead of Dan Graham.
00:48:42Want some tea?
00:48:44Yeah, wouldn't mind.
00:48:45I have nothing stronger.
00:48:46No, tea's fine, thanks.
00:48:48I'll put the kettle on.
00:48:49Cups are in the cupboard.
00:48:51Oh, right.
00:48:52Which one?
00:48:53The one over the television.
00:48:54Right.
00:48:56Sorry.
00:48:56It's not to worry.
00:48:58It's on the blink.
00:48:59I'm waiting for the service engineer.
00:49:00I have enough problems, Chief Inspector, without being dragged up here again.
00:49:07Wife getting trouble?
00:49:08You can say that again.
00:49:10You don't believe a word of the story that Rosa Harris was just another customer.
00:49:14I ain't hardly blame her, can you, sir?
00:49:17I could do with your help, though.
00:49:19Help yourself, Chief Inspector.
00:49:21And I do mean exactly that.
00:49:23Be reasonable, Mr. Chapman.
00:49:24I'm being very reasonable.
00:49:26You're a shit, Mr. Chapman.
00:49:28I've got a wife.
00:49:29I've got kids.
00:49:31You didn't think about them when you were knocking on the door of 26, did you?
00:49:35No, I didn't.
00:49:36She'd had others before me.
00:49:38Yes, so I understand.
00:49:39Tell me a few names.
00:49:40I can't.
00:49:41She never talked about them.
00:49:43Very convenient.
00:49:44There was one she was scared of.
00:49:46Huh?
00:49:47It was once or twice he rang while I was there.
00:49:50She told him to piss off, but I could tell she was scared.
00:49:52Not scared enough, it seems.
00:49:55But you can't remember any names, Mr. Chapman.
00:49:58Look, have a little think.
00:50:02Yeah, hello.
00:50:03Yeah.
00:50:04Oh.
00:50:05Oh, yes, you, Laurie.
00:50:06Yes, yes, I'm busy.
00:50:08Yes.
00:50:09What?
00:50:10Oh.
00:50:11Not again.
00:50:13What is it this time?
00:50:15Hmm?
00:50:16Oh.
00:50:17Help.
00:50:18Yeah.
00:50:19No, no, no, no, no.
00:50:20I'm not complaining.
00:50:21Yeah.
00:50:22All right.
00:50:22Right.
00:50:23Be good to see you, Mum.
00:50:23I'll ring you later.
00:50:24Bye.
00:50:24Sorry about that, Mr. Chapman.
00:50:28Oh, it's okay.
00:50:28My wife.
00:50:29Her old mum's fallen again.
00:50:31Looks as if she's broken her thigh.
00:50:33Oh, sorry.
00:50:34Yeah.
00:50:34Funny thing is, it took her best part of half an hour to get to her.
00:50:38Her bloody house was locked up like a fortress.
00:50:40And my daft wife let in a TV repairman this morning without one question.
00:50:45After all we've put out in the press and radio, I ask you.
00:50:48Sounds like Rosa.
00:50:49Hmm?
00:50:50A TV man?
00:50:53Uh, well, maybe.
00:50:57When we first started to, well, get together, she'd get these phone calls.
00:51:03And when I asked her who it was, she'd say, oh, just my TV man.
00:51:08He was the one she was scared of.
00:51:11How about a TV, Mr. Chapman?
00:51:13What about it?
00:51:14Was it on the blink, or wasn't it?
00:51:16Hell no.
00:51:17Cost a fortune.
00:51:18It wasn't 18 months old.
00:51:20Where does that Kingsley woman work?
00:51:24Hospital lab, I think.
00:51:26Computer section.
00:51:26The Royal?
00:51:27Yes.
00:51:27Right.
00:51:28TV shops for you.
00:51:29Get round them all.
00:51:30And you'd better lay on Wilkinson to help with the legwork.
00:51:32Visits that day?
00:51:33Yes.
00:51:34And who does the Harris's set?
00:51:36It's a hunch, is it, sir?
00:51:37Call it that.
00:51:38And I want lists of every bloody TV engineer in this town.
00:51:42Get to find the names of the ones who packed it in as well.
00:51:44It'll take time, sir.
00:51:45This time tomorrow.
00:51:47Tell him.
00:51:47No bloody excuses.
00:51:49I'll do my best, sir.
00:51:52You'll have to be quick, Inspector.
00:51:54My boss is a bit touchy about women sliding out.
00:51:56Leave him to me, Miss Kingsley.
00:51:57I'll sort him out.
00:51:58Yes, you would, wouldn't you?
00:52:00It's this bloke.
00:52:01The one you saw.
00:52:02Yeah.
00:52:03Big.
00:52:04Stooping a bit.
00:52:05Box of tools in his hand.
00:52:06Gray overall jacket.
00:52:07Uh, gray van.
00:52:09Yes.
00:52:10Hat?
00:52:11Uh, yes.
00:52:12It's a sort of trilby.
00:52:13TV.
00:52:14What?
00:52:14TV.
00:52:15We think he was a TV engineer.
00:52:18Could have been, I suppose.
00:52:19The Harris's had trouble with their set.
00:52:21Not that I know of.
00:52:22Sure.
00:52:23Yes.
00:52:25Except...
00:52:25Except what?
00:52:27About a year ago.
00:52:28I remember now.
00:52:29That's when I saw him the first time.
00:52:31In the gray van and the overall?
00:52:32I'm not sure.
00:52:34Must have been.
00:52:35Well, Rosa was skew-wiff when I saw her that night.
00:52:39Skew-wiff?
00:52:39How...
00:52:40Well, knocked over, half scared, half laughing.
00:52:42She said something about them never giving up.
00:52:45At all?
00:52:46Yeah.
00:52:47So one of her blokes was a TV engineer.
00:52:50Looks like it.
00:52:51And not happy about our Mr. Chapman's arrival.
00:52:54Chief Inspector Turner.
00:52:55Chief Inspector Turner.
00:52:56Yeah.
00:52:57Here.
00:52:58Uh, telephone for you, Chief Inspector.
00:52:59Chief Inspector.
00:53:00Oh, yeah.
00:53:01Excuse me, Miss Kingsley.
00:53:02Of course.
00:53:03God knows who's after me.
00:53:04Uh, don't, uh, go away.
00:53:08Yes, it's me.
00:53:09What's that?
00:53:11Oh.
00:53:12Graham, yeah.
00:53:13Well, what is it, now?
00:53:14Yeah.
00:53:16I see.
00:53:17Where?
00:53:20God, we're lucky to find it.
00:53:22Yeah, yeah.
00:53:23Look, uh, get forensic onto it sharp, will you?
00:53:25And don't spread the news around yet, eh?
00:53:27Uh, just you and me.
00:53:29Just you and me.
00:53:31Yeah.
00:53:32Good.
00:53:33Thanks.
00:53:36Oh, uh, Miss Kingsley, I've got some news for you.
00:53:40What's that?
00:53:41We found a van.
00:53:42Likely it's your grave van, dumped in an old brick pond.
00:53:45Some kids playing tack from school spotted it.
00:53:47So you do believe I saw a man?
00:53:49Oh, yes.
00:53:50Oh, yes.
00:53:51I've always believed you.
00:53:52But, uh, we're going to have to keep an eye on you now.
00:53:56Why?
00:53:57Well, there's every chance your bloke was the killer.
00:53:59And you could just be able to identify him.
00:54:02He might not like that.
00:54:03In part two of Afternoon Call by Ivor Wilson, Jeff Lee Hinsliff played Detective Chief Inspector Turner, Russell Dixon, Constable Wilkinson, and Jane Collins, Sally Kingsley.
00:54:25Bertrand Latham was Constable Graham, Brian Southwood, Martin Chapman, Andy Rawlsley, Lewis Harrison.
00:54:31It's time now for the third and final part of Afternoon Call by Ivor Wilson, a detective story in three parts with Jeffrey Hinsliff as Detective Chief Inspector Turner, Russell Dixon as Constable Wilkinson, and Jane Collins as Sally Kingsley.
00:54:49Part three, the trusty arm of the law.
00:54:52Sally Kingsley is the only witness who can identify Rosa Harris' murderer.
00:54:57Meanwhile, the police turn their attention towards the television repair business.
00:55:01I could get in the time.
00:55:06But not all of them.
00:55:07All but two or three one-man outfits.
00:55:10I can check them by tea time.
00:55:11Never mind.
00:55:12Graham, tell me what you have.
00:55:14Nobody serviced the Harris set that day.
00:55:16Officially?
00:55:16Officially.
00:55:18These are the lists of staff and jobs.
00:55:20Nobody at the Harris's.
00:55:23And service cards confirm the same.
00:55:25Nobody there for months.
00:55:27Who provided the Harris TV?
00:55:28I don't know, sir.
00:55:29What do you mean?
00:55:30You don't know.
00:55:31Sales records seem harder to dig out than servicing.
00:55:34But looking through the lists, knowing Louis Harris, he paid cash and took it out the back door of the shop.
00:55:39You know him that well?
00:55:41No, sir.
00:55:41Just speculating.
00:55:42Yeah.
00:55:43What's this lot?
00:55:44Discharged employees.
00:55:46You ask for them.
00:55:47You know why?
00:55:49Well, if this bloke isn't a regular service engineer, he could be a little backstreet merchant avoiding the tax.
00:55:55But trend.
00:55:56And have lists of TV customers from his own firm.
00:55:59It's incredible, isn't it?
00:56:01All around the country are lists of victims, all owning or renting a TV on the guarantee.
00:56:06Thousands of them.
00:56:07He knocks on the door, says he's from XYZ TV company.
00:56:10Just dropped in to do the six-monthly check-up under the guarantee.
00:56:13Free, you know, part of the service.
00:56:17And in he goes.
00:56:18What do you think, Graham?
00:56:20Oh, very plausible, sir.
00:56:21So long as the victim doesn't check with the TV firm about the visit.
00:56:25Casing the place.
00:56:26All the time in the world.
00:56:27Well, he's tarting up a few chokes and testing the odd circuit.
00:56:30And wham, bang.
00:56:31Three months later, he's in for the loot.
00:56:33Yes, sir.
00:56:34But what was the point of killing Mrs. Harris?
00:56:37Hmm.
00:56:37Good point.
00:56:39So he's a maniac.
00:56:41Roaming the streets in a little grey van looking for voluptuous women to strangle.
00:56:45It's feasible, sir.
00:56:46Wilkinson?
00:56:46I agree with Graham, sir.
00:56:48So you've got a suspect?
00:56:50Well, four or five, actually.
00:56:52But, uh, Bernard Marling was dismissed from Cosmo TV and video.
00:56:58When?
00:56:59Five months ago.
00:57:01Twenty-six.
00:57:02Big bloke.
00:57:03Fair engineer, but wanted to get into the admin side.
00:57:06No go.
00:57:07Sacked.
00:57:08Kicked in three or four valuable pieces of equipment and thumped the manager before he sloped off.
00:57:13No charges?
00:57:14No, they didn't want the publicity.
00:57:16But he could have had the customer lists.
00:57:18Oh, yeah.
00:57:18They hardly hide them.
00:57:19You follow this up?
00:57:20Graham did.
00:57:21That's right, sir.
00:57:22He left his digs a couple of days after the row, and he keeps on the move ever since.
00:57:26He was in Raleigh Avenue about the time of the murder.
00:57:29Five minutes from Rosewood, isn't it?
00:57:31Yes, sir.
00:57:31But why?
00:57:32Why should he kill Mrs. Harris?
00:57:33We'll find a reason.
00:57:35Follow it up, Wilkinson.
00:57:36Sir?
00:57:36Well, see if you can chase up a current address and look at any of the others who were sacked within two years of our murder.
00:57:42Right.
00:57:42Ready, Graham?
00:57:43No.
00:57:44Uh, leave Graham with me.
00:57:46I need a chauffeur and, uh, someone to talk to.
00:57:50Right, sir.
00:57:50I'll report in with the hard news when it happens.
00:57:55Fine.
00:57:55I'll be around till later.
00:57:57And let's have a few answers this time, eh?
00:58:01Right answers at that.
00:58:05Well?
00:58:06Well, what, sir?
00:58:08That look you projected.
00:58:10I thought for a minute your eyes were going to turn a space alien green.
00:58:13No, not quite, sir.
00:58:15It's just that the lists are not really complete.
00:58:18Wilkinson said they were, apart from a few small fry.
00:58:20I know.
00:58:21But there's a pretty big outfit missing.
00:58:23Oh?
00:58:24Which one would that be?
00:58:25Arrows.
00:58:26Ah.
00:58:27Well, I've...
00:58:28I've been a bit hard on him.
00:58:30I'll get around to it eventually.
00:58:31Well, that's just it, sir.
00:58:32He didn't get around to it.
00:58:33I see.
00:58:34How do you know that?
00:58:35They told me when I went to see him.
00:58:38So he's dropped the report somewhere.
00:58:40Look, I'll tell you what will help him out.
00:58:41You go back to Arrows and repeat the exercise.
00:58:44And bring it to 50 Wentford Avenue.
00:58:47I'm going home to see if I'm still able to cook beans on toast.
00:58:52Hello there.
00:58:53Anybody home?
00:58:54Who's that?
00:58:55Me, the trusty arm of the law.
00:58:58Who do you think it was?
00:59:00I don't know.
00:59:01I forgot to lock the door.
00:59:02I'll drop the latch.
00:59:03You ought to remember.
00:59:07I know.
00:59:08Your boss went on about that at some length.
00:59:11Oh.
00:59:12He's been here, then?
00:59:13Three or four times.
00:59:14And he came to the hospital.
00:59:16He thinks I might be an important witness.
00:59:17You are, when your memory returns.
00:59:20Well, now they've found the van, it won't be long before they track him down.
00:59:24They found the van?
00:59:25Yeah.
00:59:26Didn't you know?
00:59:28I'm busy chatting up old ladies.
00:59:31You'll tell me soon enough.
00:59:33Where was it?
00:59:34In the brick pond the other side of town.
00:59:36According to your Mr. Turner, the forensic scientist will soon find out all sorts of things.
00:59:41From past experience?
00:59:42I doubt that somehow.
00:59:43Well, you look tired.
00:59:47Oh, I am.
00:59:49Fifteen hours on the go.
00:59:51Coffee?
00:59:52Please.
00:59:53Something to eat?
00:59:54Well, I wouldn't say no.
00:59:56Okay.
00:59:57I'll revert to my primitive role as slave woman and see what there is in the kitchen.
01:00:01Put your feet up.
01:00:03Oh.
01:00:04I'll, uh, I'll put your telly on for the international match.
01:00:06Oh, you'll be lucky.
01:00:08The mechanic came, but it's still playing up.
01:00:10Try giving it a bang.
01:00:11It sometimes works.
01:00:21Turner here.
01:00:23Who?
01:00:24Oh, Greg.
01:00:26Yeah.
01:00:26What?
01:00:27Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:00:28All right, lad.
01:00:29All right.
01:00:30I'm sure you'd not ring if it wasn't important.
01:00:32Now, what is it?
01:00:33Yeah.
01:00:34Arrows list.
01:00:35Yes, good.
01:00:36Uh, did they object?
01:00:38Yeah, I see.
01:00:38Well, Wilkinson has three potentially mad TV engineers.
01:00:43How many of you?
01:00:45Only one.
01:00:46Ah, well, that's something.
01:00:50Who?
01:00:53Are you sure?
01:00:55I see.
01:00:57Go on.
01:00:57You have spoiled my dinner.
01:01:03How long was it?
01:01:05Five years.
01:01:06Hmm.
01:01:07Yes, it's a fair old time.
01:01:08Yes.
01:01:09Yes, yes, I know.
01:01:10It's tricky.
01:01:11Look.
01:01:12Check all the duty rosters as far back as you can.
01:01:14I'll be with you in ten minutes.
01:01:16And, uh, keep it to yourself.
01:01:19Right?
01:01:19Right.
01:01:19Get on with it.
01:01:27You sure?
01:01:29Absolutely sure?
01:01:30Yes, sir.
01:01:33Shit.
01:01:34The papers are here.
01:01:35Date of joining.
01:01:36Exams passed at the tech.
01:01:38Promotions.
01:01:38Date of leaving.
01:01:39He met Mrs. Harris on one of his servicing trips.
01:01:42Looks like it.
01:01:43Took ages to dig out the old records,
01:01:44but you can see the flurry of visits.
01:01:47Eight in a year.
01:01:47They'd have done better to buy a new set.
01:01:49They did.
01:01:51He installed it.
01:01:52What else?
01:01:53Street visits.
01:01:55Recorded ones.
01:01:56And God knows how many unofficial ones.
01:01:59It's all very circumstantial.
01:02:01There's no proof.
01:02:02There's nothing we can charge him with.
01:02:05Except, sir, get Miss Kingsley on the phone.
01:02:09If anybody but Miss Kingsley answers it, cut it off.
01:02:12Don't let on.
01:02:13It's us.
01:02:13And don't say a word.
01:02:15Not a word.
01:02:16Right?
01:02:17Right, sir.
01:02:19Four double nine double nine.
01:02:29Kinkley.
01:02:30Hello?
01:02:34Hello?
01:02:37Hello?
01:02:40And sod you, too.
01:02:41Is that the phone?
01:02:44Yeah.
01:02:45Some nutter.
01:02:46Reading hard and put the phone down.
01:02:48Oh, one of those.
01:02:51You get a few of them, do you?
01:02:52Oh, now and again.
01:02:53Some of them make the usual offers.
01:02:55Pervert.
01:02:56Yeah.
01:02:57Some of them might just be wrong numbers.
01:02:59Yeah, and I'm growing wings.
01:03:01You report them, I take it?
01:03:03What?
01:03:04In decent calls.
01:03:05You report them.
01:03:05Oh, I can't be bothered.
01:03:06I just put the phone down before they get to the really dirty bits.
01:03:09You should.
01:03:10Oh, I know.
01:03:11But how many of them do you catch?
01:03:14Anyway, most of them are only old men with bronchitis.
01:03:17I tell them to cut down on the fags before shutting them off.
01:03:22You're a pretty cool character.
01:03:24You think so?
01:03:26No.
01:03:27Nobody gets much change, do they?
01:03:29Oh, as much as they deserve.
01:03:32Life wasn't that great when we were kids.
01:03:35Oh, I see.
01:03:36Oh, no, you don't.
01:03:38My old man leapt off with the usual bit of fruit when I was ten.
01:03:42My old lady didn't exactly love men after that.
01:03:45How about you?
01:03:46Oh, I can take them.
01:03:48And I can leave them.
01:03:50You'd approve of Rosie, then?
01:03:52Rosa?
01:03:53Yeah.
01:03:55It wasn't my way, but she took men and left them when it suited her.
01:03:59And that's what it's all about?
01:04:01No.
01:04:02Oh, it's something you'd probably never understand.
01:04:04That's right, anyway.
01:04:06In my book, once a woman says yes, that's it.
01:04:09Today, tomorrow, forever.
01:04:11Till you decide you've had enough.
01:04:15Maybe.
01:04:17One law for women, another for men.
01:04:20I wouldn't put it exactly like that.
01:04:22Oh, it doesn't matter.
01:04:24Here's your coffee.
01:04:26Thanks.
01:04:28Hey, I see you charmed the TV back to life.
01:04:30Oh, nothing much.
01:04:32You'll need a fresh decoder before Christmas.
01:04:34Oh, will I now?
01:04:36That sounds very professional.
01:04:37Not really.
01:04:38I thought the tube was going.
01:04:40It could be, as well as...
01:04:42See the, uh, wavy lines when I turn you colour up?
01:04:47Yeah.
01:04:48Now they've gone.
01:04:50Colours on the pearl side.
01:04:53Cool, like you.
01:04:55Maybe you need a new decoder, too.
01:04:57Maybe.
01:04:58I'm impressed.
01:05:01You're a TV genius.
01:05:02I'm flattered.
01:05:04Just an amateur tinkerer.
01:05:05Your chief inspector says a TV engineer could be the one you're looking for.
01:05:08Yeah.
01:05:09I suggested that line of inquiry.
01:05:12That's why I'm knackered.
01:05:14Chasing up all the engineers, fitters, trainees, the lot for this town.
01:05:17Good Lord.
01:05:19How far back?
01:05:21Two or three years.
01:05:23Don't you ever get fed up?
01:05:24Frequently.
01:05:26How long have you been a policeman?
01:05:28Oh, four.
01:05:30Oh, five years.
01:05:32Why?
01:05:33Hmm.
01:05:34Curiosity.
01:05:35I'm surprised you're still a constable.
01:05:37Well, it takes time, love, to get off the bottom run.
01:05:40That's why I'm in CID.
01:05:43Six months with Turner will see me moving up.
01:05:46Funny you should ask.
01:05:48Not really.
01:05:49I mean, you're obviously keen and pretty intelligent.
01:05:53And a long way past 20.
01:05:57Thanks.
01:05:58You might tell the chief.
01:05:59I did.
01:06:00He asked me what I thought of you.
01:06:02Oh, so-and-so.
01:06:05What do you tell him?
01:06:05Oh, that's telling.
01:06:07Sneaky, eh?
01:06:08No, not really.
01:06:10I didn't tell him you sometimes frighten me to death the way you pop up out of nowhere.
01:06:14Oh, sorry about that.
01:06:15You're valuable property.
01:06:17Any minute that memory's going to click into gear and you'll remember the chap who murdered Rosie.
01:06:22And I want to be around when you do.
01:06:24Hmm, that's what you tell me.
01:06:26If you weren't a policeman, I'd have suspected sinister motives.
01:06:30Hey, you're sinister.
01:06:32Ridiculous.
01:06:34At least it means you don't think policemen are villains.
01:06:36Some of them are.
01:06:38A few.
01:06:39They usually get found out.
01:06:40Not always.
01:06:42Can't guarantee it.
01:06:43Hmm.
01:06:43Because everybody's looking for the villain in the opposite direction.
01:06:47What about that grub?
01:06:49Ah, I've put some soup on the stove.
01:06:50It'll be a minute or two yet.
01:06:51And there's some bacon and mushrooms and an egg on the breadboard to make you an omelette.
01:06:55Is that all right?
01:06:56Sounds marvellous.
01:06:58What do you do before you join the police?
01:07:01Oh, school.
01:07:03Tech.
01:07:05Passed a few exams.
01:07:07Mucked about with different jobs.
01:07:09Not one in particular?
01:07:10You're persistent, aren't you?
01:07:12I suppose you'll be running off to Mr. Turner to check me out in the morning.
01:07:16Why should I?
01:07:18It was a mistake.
01:07:19What was?
01:07:21Big mistake.
01:07:23Mind you always make one.
01:07:26If you're lucky, it doesn't count.
01:07:28This time I've made two or three.
01:07:30It's been getting very hairy for a day or two.
01:07:33What has?
01:07:34That bugger Turner's dropping me for Dan Graham.
01:07:38And he's stopped telling me things.
01:07:40Oh, you're imagining it.
01:07:42Am I?
01:07:44It all depends if they check on the lists.
01:07:46What lists?
01:07:47Not for your ears.
01:07:49Confidential stuff.
01:07:51We are looking for the bloke who killed Rosie.
01:07:54Damn it.
01:07:55All you have to do is say it was Chapman going in the house an hour earlier that day and it's all over.
01:08:00But he didn't look like him at all.
01:08:03More like me, you keep saying.
01:08:04So he was.
01:08:06Very much like you.
01:08:09What mistake did you make?
01:08:11What?
01:08:12Well, you said you made a mistake.
01:08:15A big mistake.
01:08:17I shouldn't have mended your TV.
01:08:19I thought I was doing you a favor.
01:08:21You were.
01:08:22I was stupid.
01:08:23Set you off.
01:08:25And you're never going to stop asking about it until you're satisfied.
01:08:28You were a TV engineer.
01:08:31Yes, I was.
01:08:33So it was you I saw.
01:08:37And it was you a year ago.
01:08:38And you're the one who called her Rosie.
01:08:43I answered the phone once when you asked for her when she wouldn't talk to you.
01:08:48Go on.
01:08:52Finish your fairy tale.
01:08:55Tell me I killed her.
01:08:57Did you?
01:09:01Why should I?
01:09:03Because she went to bed with other blokes like Martin and Eric.
01:09:11Eric.
01:09:13Oh.
01:09:14Didn't you hear about him?
01:09:16I think he was in the entertainment business.
01:09:20At least she found him entertaining for a month or two.
01:09:24A dirty cow.
01:09:27She was nothing better than a whore.
01:09:29You have something against whores.
01:09:31Bloody women.
01:09:32You didn't think she was saving it all up for you, did you?
01:09:35Go on.
01:09:36Tell me you think that's the way women should behave.
01:09:38Oh, not really.
01:09:40At least it wouldn't suit me.
01:09:43All she did was treat men like men treat women.
01:09:47I wanted to marry her.
01:09:49She was married already.
01:09:50Oh, God.
01:09:50There's such a thing as divorce.
01:09:52Are you serious?
01:09:53Of course I'm serious.
01:09:56Why do you think I joined the force?
01:09:58To prove I'd settled down.
01:10:01To show her I was an old randy house-to-house crawler looking for a cheap piece of action.
01:10:06I wanted to marry her.
01:10:09She wouldn't listen.
01:10:12She just went on and on, chucking her talcum powder all over the place and told me to piss off.
01:10:18I got mad.
01:10:21So you killed her.
01:10:24I don't remember.
01:10:26She was your first.
01:10:27What?
01:10:27First woman.
01:10:29Oh, hell no.
01:10:30What sort of a freak do you think I am?
01:10:31I've had dozens.
01:10:32Too many to remember.
01:10:34What happened to them?
01:10:35I kissed them all goodbye when it suited me.
01:10:37And when it didn't suit you?
01:10:41I don't remember.
01:10:44What about that omelette?
01:10:45Any minute now.
01:10:48Look, you're sick.
01:10:51Very sick.
01:10:52As fit as you?
01:10:53No way.
01:10:54I think we should ring for a doctor.
01:10:57Dr. Bloody Turner, I suppose.
01:11:04No way, Miss Kingsley.
01:11:05You were always the dangerous one.
01:11:11Me?
01:11:11I thought you were beginning to fancy me.
01:11:18Nothing doing.
01:11:19You're not in my plan.
01:11:20Aren't I attractive enough for you?
01:11:25Tight jeans, no bra, but no tits to speak of.
01:11:28Five out of ten, no more.
01:11:29Oh, thanks.
01:11:30You were the only one who saw me.
01:11:34Sooner or later, you were going to put the bits together.
01:11:37So I was always on your doorstep, waiting, like...
01:11:40You fancied me.
01:11:42Admit it.
01:11:42It's all right.
01:11:43I fancied you.
01:11:44But you don't figure in my plan.
01:11:49Turn around and face the wall.
01:11:50It won't take a minute.
01:11:51What about your omelette?
01:11:52Later.
01:11:53Turn around.
01:11:53You don't have to.
01:11:55Of course I don't.
01:11:55I won't say anything.
01:11:57I didn't really see you.
01:11:59Honest, I didn't.
01:12:00Turn around.
01:12:00Look, I'll scream.
01:12:01There are people upstairs.
01:12:03I've seen them.
01:12:04Fuss.
01:12:05By the time they've scraped up enough courage to come downstairs,
01:12:07I'll be a mile away.
01:12:09I'm coming in this direction.
01:12:11Turn around.
01:12:11No.
01:12:14Bastard, I won't.
01:12:15I'm not giving in to a bloody maniac.
01:12:17Right.
01:12:18We'll do it the other way.
01:12:24Bitch.
01:12:25I'll kill you.
01:12:26I'll kill you.
01:12:28Get off me.
01:12:30Get off.
01:12:37Get off.
01:12:38Get off.
01:12:38Come on, get off.
01:12:40I can't.
01:12:41You bastard.
01:12:42I can't.
01:12:43Get off.
01:12:44Here.
01:12:45Clean on the wall.
01:12:46Did he know who he did?
01:12:48If it's Turner, you can say your breath.
01:12:51Pure word against mine.
01:12:53There's not a shred of proof.
01:12:54It's Kingsley.
01:12:58Miss Kingsley.
01:13:00Are you all right?
01:13:02Yes.
01:13:03I'm all right.
01:13:05I see you have company.
01:13:07Hello, sir.
01:13:08Good to see you.
01:13:09Nice to be wanted.
01:13:11Oh, thank God you came.
01:13:14Thank you and Graham here.
01:13:16Can you walk, Sally?
01:13:19Yes.
01:13:19I think so.
01:13:21Walk over to me, then.
01:13:24That's it.
01:13:25Steady now.
01:13:26Good girl.
01:13:27Look after her, Graham.
01:13:30Summon up, sir.
01:13:31Plenty.
01:13:32Stand by that wall, lad.
01:13:33Sir?
01:13:34By the wall.
01:13:35Of a dozen nevies outside, if you prefer it that way.
01:13:39There's not a word of truth in what she says, sir.
01:13:43She's hardly said a word yet.
01:13:44Oh, she will.
01:13:47She will?
01:13:49But she's always do.
01:13:51She'll tell you I killed Rosie.
01:13:53Will you tell me that, Miss Kingsley?
01:13:56Yes.
01:13:57He killed Rosie.
01:13:58He admitted it.
01:14:00See?
01:14:01What did I say?
01:14:03I love Rosie.
01:14:05We could have been happy together.
01:14:07You think so?
01:14:09Yes, I loved her.
01:14:11You understand, don't you?
01:14:13I think I do, lad.
01:14:14He said there were others.
01:14:16Oh, quite a boy, eh?
01:14:18They tell such lies, sir.
01:14:21Want to tell me about them?
01:14:23Oh, no, sir.
01:14:25No, there's no proof.
01:14:26No proof at all, sir.
01:14:29They tell such awful lies all the time.
01:14:31Lying.
01:14:32You don't like women much, do you?
01:14:35I hate them.
01:14:37The whole bloody sex craze a lot of them.
01:14:41You know what they do, don't you?
01:14:43No.
01:14:44Tell me.
01:14:46They castrate you.
01:14:48All the bloody time.
01:14:51Castration.
01:14:52Nothing but castration.
01:14:54Well, you can't just let it go on, can you?
01:14:56I mean, can you?
01:15:03Well, Miss Kingsley, what would you say to a small libation to conclude the evening?
01:15:08Hmm, brandy?
01:15:09No problem.
01:15:10Constable Graham?
01:15:11The same, please, sir.
01:15:12So it shall be.
01:15:13And, er, for this evening, I think it might be John and Dan, eh?
01:15:18Yes, sir.
01:15:18Oh, and I'm Sally.
01:15:20We know that, love.
01:15:21Short for Sarah, isn't it?
01:15:23Yes.
01:15:23Yes.
01:15:24It doesn't seem to me that you've much caused to be on first-name terms with members of the
01:15:29police force just now.
01:15:30Oh, after tonight, I'm beginning to think that some of our police are almost human.
01:15:34Laura's a great cook, isn't she?
01:15:35Oh, she is.
01:15:37But I suspect she's a great deal more than a good cook.
01:15:40Right again, love.
01:15:41We make a pretty good team.
01:15:43She's only got back from visiting her mum yesterday.
01:15:45Oh, how is the old, er, her mother?
01:15:47Yeah, well, there's no bones broken.
01:15:49And pleading to get off a ward full of golden oldies.
01:15:53Her own words.
01:15:54How old is she?
01:15:56Seventy-four.
01:15:57Look, all the more reason for me and Dan to do the washing up.
01:16:00Next time you can, both of you.
01:16:02Tonight, Laura thought we ought to talk, and I agree.
01:16:06Yeah, here's your drinks.
01:16:07Sure.
01:16:07And yours, Dan.
01:16:09And not to worry, you can both take a taxi home.
01:16:12I...
01:16:12Oh, anything you say.
01:16:14Cheers.
01:16:14Cheers.
01:16:15Cheers.
01:16:17And our sincere apologies.
01:16:20You must have been scared to death before we got to you.
01:16:22Shaking right down to my toes.
01:16:25But really, it was my own fault.
01:16:27How was that?
01:16:28Oh, well, I...
01:16:29I mean, I recognised him almost from the first meet.
01:16:33But it didn't make sense.
01:16:35I mean, he was a policeman.
01:16:37He was.
01:16:38And he didn't look like a villain.
01:16:39He still doesn't to me.
01:16:41Oh, God.
01:16:43He had so much going for him.
01:16:47What will happen now?
01:16:48Oh, he'll be detained after the trial.
01:16:51In Broadmoor, if he's lucky.
01:16:52Oh.
01:16:53Well, there are worse places, you know.
01:16:55How long?
01:16:56Until he recovers.
01:16:58He's insane, of course.
01:17:00Pretty far round the bend.
01:17:02What about all the other mergers?
01:17:04All those.
01:17:05Go and tell her, then.
01:17:07We're still checking.
01:17:08But it looks as if there weren't any others.
01:17:10But he said...
01:17:10Fantasy.
01:17:11Pure fantasy all in his head, poor sod.
01:17:13All of it?
01:17:15Are you sure?
01:17:15Well, best part of it, at least.
01:17:17Seems he had this thing about women.
01:17:20But it didn't put him off them altogether.
01:17:22Oh, it never does.
01:17:23He kept his TV customer lists, his grey overjacket and his box of tools for unofficial visits.
01:17:28And his warrant card covered the rest.
01:17:30Yes.
01:17:31He bought the grey van from a scrapyard.
01:17:33He kept it in a lock-up garage.
01:17:35And didn't bother with tax or insurance.
01:17:38All he had to do was wave his warrant card when all else failed.
01:17:41And claim he was on an undercover job.
01:17:44So he had plenty of clients.
01:17:45Quite a few.
01:17:46Victims, I'd call them.
01:17:48They all denied it at first.
01:17:50Then it got pretty embarrassing when they realised he'd left very explicit lists.
01:17:54How about Rosa?
01:17:55Human nature, love.
01:17:56He was besotted, head over heels.
01:17:58It does happen, you know.
01:17:59And she threw him over for a fly-by-night car salesman.
01:18:02Which she had every right to do.
01:18:04Absolutely.
01:18:05Absolutely.
01:18:05Oh, you're just saying that.
01:18:07Yes, I am.
01:18:08But I mean it.
01:18:08I assure you, we're not making any moral judgments tonight.
01:18:12But no one has the right to take another life in a civilised society.
01:18:16Answer it, Rita.
01:18:17Yes, sir.
01:18:18I didn't really like what she did.
01:18:20No, I didn't imagine you would.
01:18:23Yes.
01:18:25Yes, he's here.
01:18:26I mean, she got pretty casual about it.
01:18:29So it seems.
01:18:30Who?
01:18:33Oh.
01:18:35I see.
01:18:36Where?
01:18:38On the list.
01:18:40You sure about that?
01:18:43Yeah, yeah.
01:18:44Hmm.
01:18:44Sounds like work again.
01:18:46Don't you ever get fed up with it all?
01:18:47Most of the time.
01:18:49And so does Laura.
01:18:50Right.
01:18:51Right, he'll be in touch.
01:18:53More petty crime?
01:18:55Sergeant Greaves.
01:18:56Reporting on the Wilkinson follow-up.
01:18:58Checking on the addresses we found in his papers.
01:19:01Anything interesting, Turno?
01:19:02Yes.
01:19:02Two or three break-ins following his visits.
01:19:05At all?
01:19:07No, sir.
01:19:09It looks very much as if three of his customers are on our missing persons list.
01:19:13All women, I suppose.
01:19:18Yes, sir.
01:19:21Looks as if Sally could be right about the other murders.
01:19:23Yes, sir.
01:19:25But I think I could do with another drink.
01:19:27Are you all right, sir?
01:19:28No.
01:19:29Just get us all another drink and one for Laura.
01:19:32You can take it through to her.
01:19:33Right, sir.
01:19:35What will you do?
01:19:37Oh, the usual.
01:19:39Check on all unidentified bodies.
01:19:42Drag a few local ponds.
01:19:44Check all his belongings for different bloodstains.
01:19:47Probably put out a national request for information.
01:19:50Drink, sir.
01:19:50Thanks, Don.
01:19:52Tell Laura I'll not be lonely.
01:19:54Right, sir.
01:19:55You really do care, don't you?
01:20:00Yes.
01:20:02Yes, I do.
01:20:04The lad was one of ours.
01:20:07Mine, really.
01:20:09We never like to see one go bad.
01:20:11Never as bad as David.
01:20:14He seemed so right.
01:20:16Clean.
01:20:16Willing to learn.
01:20:18He'd have gone a long way, you know.
01:20:20I had him marked a book, Dan Graham.
01:20:23You were wrong.
01:20:24I know.
01:20:25I know.
01:20:27And so was I.
01:20:30I hope they'll be kind to him.
01:20:34You don't have any children, Chief Inspector, do you?
01:20:38No.
01:20:40There were reasons.
01:20:41I know what you're thinking.
01:20:45I'm wrong again.
01:20:48Look.
01:20:49When this lot's sorted out, I wouldn't mind an invitation to call again.
01:20:58Any time.
01:21:01We'd like that very much.
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