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00:00Previously on The Real Housewives of Orange County.
00:18How many people have had an orgasm in here?
00:21I would like to put this next to my bed.
00:25Don't anyone talk to me right now.
00:27Do you want a date?
00:27I mean, you know, there's, like, a couple guys that I know who kissed them.
00:31They're just kissing.
00:32I do like a kiss, if it's good.
00:34Shannon defending Katie last night, like, I got pissed off.
00:38They're worried that you plan what you're gonna do or say.
00:40I wish I was that smart.
00:42Last year, Katie was filming Shannon having a meltdown and showed it to Alexis.
00:49Oh, last year she reported you at the gallery shoot and then sent the video to Alexis.
00:53Why would you do that when I'm in active litigation with her fiancé?
00:58Are you kidding me?
01:01Just a few years ago, you were still talking about me and stayed on the podcast.
01:05Wait, you're gonna roll your eyes with that?
01:06You think she didn't go and attack my daughter?
01:09It's not the same thing.
01:11Oh, okay, Yvonne.
01:13Life can be hard, but so are my abs.
01:24For once, the only dogs in my life are golden retrievers.
01:30I may not be your cup of tea, but I'll bring you an espresso martini.
01:36I love life in the hills, so I always take the high road.
01:40I may work in real estate, but that doesn't mean I'm buying what you're selling.
01:47I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but my truth.
01:53I'm taking a hard look in the mirror, and my reflection is still hot.
01:57I have a reservation for two.
02:19My friend is joining me.
02:20You're all good.
02:21Your technician is gonna be with you shortly.
02:22Okay, you can just go ahead and thank you.
02:24Okay, thank you.
02:27Hi.
02:28Hi.
02:28I feel cute.
02:29How are you?
02:30Good to you.
02:31I got it from The Gap.
02:32I swear to God, they've got a revival.
02:35What are we doing, Karen?
02:36Okay, so it's like a deep clean of your scalp.
02:39Do you know what they're gonna find?
02:40Nine pounds of dry shampoo in mine.
02:42I know.
02:43Hi, guys.
02:44We're gonna take you to your room.
02:46Okay, come on.
02:47We have robes, slippers.
02:50Okay.
02:50If you want to keep your bra on, that's fine.
02:52We'll just move the straps.
02:54Oh, my God.
02:55It's so romantic, Katie.
02:56We just made up, and we're really going for it.
02:59You know what I miss the most?
03:01Talking and laughing and hanging out with Gina.
03:02And that is why I hold on to this, because I genuinely liked you.
03:06I am sorry, both of you, that I hurt you.
03:08I truly am.
03:10I'm willing to do anything to get these ladies back on my side,
03:13even paying for a really expensive scalp treatment.
03:17That she needs.
03:19I don't know what you're gonna...
03:20Like, a Lego is gonna fall out.
03:22Like, I don't know what you're gonna find in there.
03:24Just a little bit of buildup, but that's totally normal.
03:27I've accepted Katie's apology, and I am willing to move forward with her,
03:32but trust, that's gonna take a minute.
03:34Like, that's just gonna have to be rebuilt over time.
03:39Are we going here?
03:40We're gonna put you under the red light therapy.
03:42Oh, yes.
03:44Well, thank you for coming today.
03:45I just feel like I'm on, like, an apology tour right now.
03:48I'm sorry I went about it the way I did.
03:50I was pissed.
03:51Okay, I appreciate your apology.
03:53I apologize.
03:54I swear to God.
03:55Like, I would never intentionally do that to you.
03:57Why would you do that?
03:58Shannon, I'm sorry.
04:00Truly.
04:01I'm just glad, honestly, that you and I are here,
04:03and Emily didn't sneak in and show up, too.
04:05I am boundaries, and you don't!
04:08I know.
04:09I'm sorry about that.
04:10Togo, go upstairs.
04:15Togo!
04:16Go upstairs.
04:18You're in trouble.
04:18Go upstairs.
04:20There you go.
04:21Good boy.
04:24Hello.
04:25Hello.
04:26Sorry.
04:26I had a dog in here.
04:27How are you?
04:28I'm good.
04:29Thanks for coming over.
04:30Do you want to go sit outside?
04:31It's nice out.
04:32Look, is that a dog or a coyote?
04:34Oh, that's my dog I'm fostering.
04:36Oh.
04:36She likes to hide in the bushes a lot.
04:38She's an Australian cattle dog.
04:40Cute.
04:41It's sad, but she's getting better.
04:43I'm so tired from yesterday or from life or from everything.
04:47Well, life in general, but yesterday was just, like,
04:50pushed me over the edge.
04:52So what did you think when Gretchen walked in?
04:54Hi!
04:54How are you?
04:55Tamara, Judge.
04:56Nice to meet you, Tamara.
04:57I'm Gretchen Rossi.
04:58I'm like, you look like an episode of Toddlers in Tears,
05:01is what I wanted to say.
05:03I mean, clearly she doesn't move forward.
05:05She's angry about the podcast.
05:07I know that Slade lost a son, and that's hard.
05:10But Michelle lost everything taking care of her son.
05:13Gretchen just got a big chunk of money.
05:14Michelle is having to go through GoFundMe to pay for his services.
05:19Yeah.
05:20Probably not great, Tamara.
05:21The problem with Tamara isn't recognizing that she said anything wrong.
05:25It's always trying to rationalize why she did it.
05:28We were trying to help the mom out with the funeral expenses.
05:32And I said, well, I hope that Gretchen donates, too.
05:35That was it.
05:36It was inappropriate, and she shouldn't have done that.
05:38She should apologize for that.
05:40I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings.
05:42The first time I listened to it, I thought, huh, is that bad?
05:45Then I played it again.
05:45I go, really?
05:46It's not.
05:48Yeah, Tamara, that was bad.
05:49It's almost like she just doesn't hear herself sometimes.
05:53Yeah.
05:53You know?
05:53But then also, I will give Tamara this.
05:56The daughter posts something, and then Gretchen goes on there and responds to that.
06:01She did.
06:02That's a huge hurt for Tamara.
06:04She went to my daughter's minor Facebook page.
06:07She's a minor at the time.
06:08I know, and she commented on it.
06:09Mm-hmm.
06:09That s***.
06:11Can you imagine Katie doing that to Annabelle?
06:13She might, yes.
06:14She might.
06:15There are moments where it could be lighthearted, and it could be fun.
06:20And that's what I thought it was going to be yesterday.
06:22Then I got tag teamed with...
06:24With, uh...
06:25Dimwit.
06:25Oh, Jen.
06:26Yes.
06:28Huh?
06:32Hi.
06:33Welcome in.
06:34Hi.
06:34Party at three?
06:35Party at three.
06:36Okay.
06:36Ooh, and jelly beans.
06:38Can I take some jelly beans?
06:39Yeah, right this way.
06:42Hi.
06:43Hi.
06:43I think I'm over there.
06:44Hi.
06:44You look so pretty.
06:46I do.
06:46You look amazing.
06:47Thanks.
06:48How are you?
06:49I'm still dealing with yesterday.
06:51I'm Ashley.
06:52I'll be able to take care of you.
06:52I'm Jen.
06:53Nice to meet you.
06:54Are you having a drink?
06:55Yes.
06:55I want, um...
06:56Have you just met?
06:57I want a really dirty martini.
07:00Cool?
07:00Anything great?
07:00What does an espresso martini look like in these parts?
07:03Um, it's dark, not light.
07:04We don't put any cream in it.
07:05Cool.
07:05So good.
07:06Hi.
07:07Hi.
07:07How are you?
07:08You look so...
07:08Oh, you're wearing a leather.
07:09Beautiful.
07:10I'm singling.
07:12Well, yesterday was pretty brutal.
07:14That hot pot.
07:15I sent her a text.
07:16Did she text you that?
07:17No.
07:18The fact that I hurt her, I'm dying on the inside right now.
07:21Yeah.
07:22What you did, the recording, is what is very violating and scary.
07:25It's bad.
07:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:26But at the same time, I think she'll get over it.
07:29I got a text this morning.
07:31She texted you?
07:32She texted me this morning.
07:34And it really set you off.
07:36I met with Katie the day after the Golden Door.
07:39You just said, if I did something.
07:41That's like an apology, but.
07:43But here's the thing, Shannon.
07:44But here's the thing, but.
07:45Okay, but.
07:46So after that being said, I got a but.
07:48Yes.
07:49I had an audio recording of Gallery Shoot Day.
07:53But no one's heard the recording.
07:55I don't give a f*** who heard the recording.
08:00Because I know other people did.
08:02Can I tell you something?
08:03Emily told me the other day that this all happened.
08:06So on my way to Hot Pot, I called Alexis.
08:09I called Alexis.
08:10I called Alexis.
08:13She said, we're at lunch.
08:15She played it for me.
08:16She couldn't remember if Jen was there or not.
08:18I should have never overshared with Alexis.
08:21I was with Alexis and Jen.
08:23We're on a triple date.
08:24And I shared that.
08:25And I should have never done that.
08:26But I wasn't at a lunch where she played it.
08:29It must have been the two of them.
08:30I can assure you, Katie did not play that recording.
08:32In front of me.
08:33I have never hung out with Alexis alone.
08:36So Jen was there.
08:37I believe Jen.
08:39Jen's not a liar.
08:40Yeah, I 100% believe Alexis.
08:42Sometimes Jen doesn't remember all the details.
08:44Shannon, audio recording somebody is there.
08:48I don't even...
08:48There's no coming back for that.
08:49She can't say I didn't do it on video.
08:52Uh, and?
08:52F***ing kidding.
08:53Who cares?
08:54But what do I do, Shannon?
08:56I don't think there's any coming back.
08:58You don't?
08:58No.
08:59Katie has crossed so many lines.
09:02And so has Tamara.
09:03I am not Tamara's keeper.
09:06And I'm not Katie's.
09:07Do you give her grace because you're safer to be in that position?
09:10No.
09:11I'm not scared of...
09:11But if she has...
09:12I love how I'm held at a totally different standard than anybody else, according to Jen.
09:19Katie can do horrible things, but what I did last year, I'm the f***ing devil.
09:24I'm the devil.
09:25And she cannot get over it.
09:27You know what I feel like they're doing?
09:28They're baiting me.
09:29No, they are.
09:30I agree with that.
09:30They're baiting me because Ryan just put that post out saying that you say my name once
09:36and I have that lawsuit ready for you.
09:38My attorney said, do not be around, Tim.
09:40You know what?
09:41He wants to sue me.
09:42I'm smart enough to know.
09:44Just don't talk about it.
09:45Don't talk about it.
09:47I'm not falling for your bait.
09:48What are you going to do about Heather's party?
09:51Heather said she's taking care of it.
09:53Can we switch subjects just for a second?
09:56I am having a birthday party.
09:58For myself.
10:01Shocker.
10:02Even though her birthday was a month and a half ago.
10:06Happy birthday, Heather.
10:07So my birthday's January 5th, but I don't like celebrating because it's right after the
10:11holidays.
10:11Everyone's like broke and fat and hungover and dry and whatever.
10:16So I usually wait until February and it's just an excuse to get dressed up and like have
10:21a bit of fun.
10:21But there's a little bit of a conundrum.
10:23I told Tamara I was having this party and she said to me, are Jen and Ryan coming?
10:27I go, of course I'm going to invite Jen.
10:29And she said that her attorney said that she shouldn't be in the same room with him.
10:34And she goes, so he just won't come.
10:35I don't want her to not come.
10:37I want you to come as well.
10:39And I'm not telling you not to bring Ryan.
10:41I just don't know how to handle this.
10:43But then you're choosing Tamara.
10:46Because that's my husband who did nothing.
10:50I had to sit there and argue that my kids lived in a safe house that was never raided by
10:55the FBI.
10:56I had to pay attorney fees that I do not have the money for because your friend said we
11:02were raided by the FBI.
11:04That woman caused so much pain.
11:07So she doesn't want to come and be around Ryan's her.
11:11Okay, sweetie.
11:12Sweetie.
11:13Oh, that's the truth.
11:14I'm sorry.
11:15I'm sorry.
11:16That is so painful that you just asked me that.
11:18I didn't ask you anything.
11:19Just don't invite me.
11:20I'm not.
11:21I'm inviting you.
11:22Why do you shine with her?
11:24Why do you shine with her?
11:24I'm not siding.
11:26But you do.
11:26Why do you lower yourself?
11:28No, no, no.
11:29That's bulls***.
11:29Are you not lowering yourself to be with someone who will videotape one of our friends?
11:36I don't think that's a fair comparison.
11:38Recording Shannon was horrible.
11:40But Tamara's done damage to people.
11:43And I'm sorry, but you are the company you keep.
11:46And Heather is better than that.
11:48You know what, Jen?
11:49If you're looking at me and my friendships, what does this say about you and yours?
11:53This is my money go-and-a-air.
11:54Oh, yeah.
11:56I'm sorry you're upset.
11:57No, I'm sorry that I get upset, but it is just not Ryan, Heather.
12:01All right, well, then I'm just going to invite everyone and we'll let the chips fall where
12:04they may.
12:14So chicken, rice with teriyaki sauce?
12:17Yeah.
12:18Okay.
12:19Easy.
12:20What should I draw?
12:21Hmm.
12:22I know those, like, anime things where they, like, do, like, a power scene in the ball,
12:28you know?
12:28What if I draw that?
12:29You could draw that.
12:30Hi, guys.
12:31Hi, Caddy.
12:31How's it going, B?
12:32It's going pretty good.
12:34Oh, do you want to make that dip?
12:35Yeah.
12:35Grab the pepper jelly.
12:36Hey, Gap?
12:37Yeah.
12:38Where is he?
12:39Here's room.
12:39He's probably playing Xbox.
12:41We're eating some dip.
12:42Are you hungry?
12:43Uh, a little hungry.
12:45Do you like this thing?
12:46Have you had it before?
12:47Uh, kind of.
12:48Except G.
12:49Last year, Gavin was splitting his time between Orange County and San Diego.
12:53Weekends, he'd be in Orange County with us.
12:55Weekdays, he would be in San Diego with Matt for school.
12:58But he wanted to be with his friends and party and hang out.
13:01And even now that he's full-time in Orange County, I barely see him ever.
13:06He's working, friends, girlfriend.
13:08It's always gone.
13:09Our grades, they're good.
13:11Really?
13:11Actually, I checked on him because I have it on my app.
13:14Your grades are really good.
13:15I know it was not easy switching schools for senior year, but at least you still get to
13:19see your friends from San Diego, right?
13:21Yeah.
13:22You know, Max talked about Christmas when he was here, moving here.
13:25It's the first time he's ever really acknowledged moving home.
13:29I got a lot of criticism from a lot of people for letting Max make his own decision where he
13:34wants to live.
13:35So you have one child that still lives in?
13:37Georgia.
13:38Georgia.
13:38He's 14.
13:39Is that hard?
13:40Yes, extremely.
13:43But I always wanted my kids to grow up knowing that their mother supported what they wanted.
13:48Because courts tell kids where to go all the time.
13:50And they're miserable.
13:51The main reason he was thinking about really moving here was to be with you.
13:55That has to feel good.
13:57I think it's just because we are together for so long.
13:59You know, we got separated for a bit for a long time.
14:02So then we kind of just like, I don't know.
14:04You miss each other.
14:05We started our custody battle almost 11 years ago.
14:09And I think that giving up legal and physical custody at the time was the best decision for
14:14my kids.
14:14For you to lose both physical and legal custody as well.
14:17That's the part that doesn't make sense to me.
14:19At the time, I was literally homeless with three kids.
14:22We had nowhere to go.
14:24That was horrible, horrible time.
14:27I'm sorry, Annie.
14:28To stay in the home that they were growing up in, to keep going to the school in their
14:31district.
14:32That was the best choice for them.
14:33I just got through it.
14:35You know, I worked.
14:35I made money.
14:36I feel like a woman should come to another woman, praising her and uplifting her for
14:40something that she survived.
14:42Using that against me, I feel like is really sh**.
14:44Bannon, what do you think about all of us being at one house now when Maxim was here?
14:49I really love it.
14:50I just don't like him not being here.
14:53I know.
14:53I just always miss him.
14:55So I just get mad at him.
14:57I've been trying to make it work for so many years.
15:00And it's just really been a struggle.
15:02So now to have them all together feels like I've reached the end.
15:10You don't get mad when sissy goes away for a long time.
15:13That's because he's way more annoying than I am.
15:27Hey guys, welcome to Our Rumble.
15:29Are we walking in or a reservation?
15:30We have a reservation, a party of six.
15:32Okay.
15:33He has brought his own bowling shoes.
15:36Yeah.
15:37I'm a nine and a half.
15:38There you go.
15:39You guys are going to be on lane number one.
15:40It's going to be all the way to 11.
15:41Okay, got it.
15:46Prepare yourself to lose, sir.
15:48To who?
15:50Hello.
15:53That was so hot.
15:55I didn't know you like bowlers.
15:56Hello.
15:58Hi.
15:58You look so cute.
15:59I love your jeans.
16:00I know they're too big, though.
16:02He looks good.
16:02That's a big problem.
16:04Do you know Shannon's man's name?
16:06Who is this man?
16:07We need to get this guy.
16:09Like, we need to get him.
16:10Well, here's the question.
16:11Is this guy the same guy she's going to take to Heather's party?
16:14Heather's birthday party?
16:15That's a month later?
16:17Why is it a birthday party?
16:18Why not just make it a party?
16:20Because she must celebrate herself.
16:21I'll open the door for you.
16:25We have some pros here.
16:27Who's ready to bowl?
16:29How do you get personalized bowling shirts like that?
16:32I know, it's amazing.
16:33That is impressive.
16:34This is Adam, you guys.
16:35Hi, Adam.
16:36Nice to meet you.
16:36Nice to meet you.
16:39Adam was on the Love Hotel with me.
16:41I'm really glad I met you.
16:42I am, too.
16:44But I eliminated him.
16:46I can't go forward without giving Earl my key.
16:51Adam is six years younger than I am.
16:53He says he might want to have kids again.
16:54That ain't happening here.
16:55I feel like she's still on the Sting English Hotel.
16:59Like, she hasn't stopped.
17:01Shannon dated a guy named Earl.
17:03I don't know why they broke up.
17:04Maybe this guy is good for Shannon,
17:07because he's clearly wacky enough to wear a matching bowling shirt.
17:10They seem equally nuts.
17:13Why don't we team up?
17:14You do the first shot, and I'll do the second.
17:16I like that, Adam.
17:18Damn it!
17:19Okay, Adam.
17:22Woo-hoo!
17:23Did you just bowl holding a chicken finger?
17:30What the f***?
17:32Who am I playing with, man?
17:34What was that?
17:38So annoying.
17:41I can't do it!
17:43Who's on deck?
17:45Gina's up.
17:46So when was, like, your last serious relationship?
17:49It's been a while.
17:50So are you, like, a big drinker?
17:53Or...
17:53No.
17:54No?
17:54Do you have, like, a temper?
17:55Or are you a pretty even-keeled kind of guy?
17:58Very even-keeled.
17:59I simply will not tolerate a John Janssen 2.0 situation.
18:04F*** Gina.
18:05It is not happening.
18:06We have post-traumatic John.
18:08Yes, we do.
18:08We have post-traumatic disorder.
18:11I don't care if I have to stay here all night and grill this man.
18:14Are you an early birdie or, like, a night owl?
18:17I can be both.
18:18So do you, like, have a free schedule thing?
18:22Flexible.
18:22You got, like, your retirement plan all going?
18:24No, I'm never gonna retire.
18:26Is he a private person?
18:28Does he, low-key, want to be very famous?
18:31Do you believe that we landed on the moon?
18:33No.
18:34I just need to know.
18:35We didn't.
18:36You're acting like our dogs.
18:37What?
18:38I know.
18:38I'm a little close.
18:39I'm a little close.
18:39You're up their asses.
18:40I'm gonna take it down.
18:42Let them have some space.
18:44There's a strike.
18:45Are we all going to Heather's birthday party?
18:47Heather did tell me the other night that Katie's coming.
18:49Well, she'll be here.
18:50I'll be over there.
18:51Right.
18:51That's what I said.
18:52When I see Katie at Heather's party, I intend to make it very, very clear I have nothing
18:59else to ever say to her again.
19:01You're gonna crash when you get home, huh?
19:04You're gonna crash?
19:06Sleep.
19:07I call a sleeping crash.
19:08Adam and I, this is stop one.
19:10We're gonna do an outfit change and then go to the next place.
19:13Oh.
19:14Oh.
19:14Living it up.
19:16Coming up, you've been very calm.
19:20My life in the past six months has just been such a downer.
19:24I feel like I'm crying all the time and I'm like, I'm sick of it.
19:35Dom.
19:36What?
19:36Come here.
19:37So what are you and dad signing up for?
19:39What sport?
19:39Football and soccer and basketball.
19:42Okay, so you're gonna do all three sports?
19:44Yeah.
19:45What did you do the other day at school?
19:46And I said, you and I have to talk about this.
19:48You talk too much in P.E.?
19:50Yeah.
19:51How many warnings did you get?
19:52Uh.
19:53Sixteen.
19:54He shouldn't laugh.
19:58He shouldn't laugh.
19:59So you're grounded.
20:00Go upstairs.
20:01Thank you, Ryan, for getting me out of that.
20:04You're like a fun uncle.
20:06Ryan and I are still working on the whole parenting thing.
20:09Where's Dost?
20:10I don't know.
20:10I love you with Dom.
20:11Oh, come down.
20:13Being a stepdad isn't easy because they do have a dad.
20:16I would prefer if he was a bit more active with the kids.
20:19He's got a bit of a hands-off approach as they all live under our roof.
20:22But that's his decision and that works for him.
20:25What's up?
20:26We are talking about moving the wedding sooner because you're leaving to go to boot camp.
20:32Yeah.
20:33When are we pulling the trigger on that?
20:34Baby, this is a you thing.
20:36I'm not getting married without Dawson being there.
20:38I agree.
20:39Dawson came to me after he had already met with a recruiter with his dad.
20:44And the conversation was, I'm joining the Marines.
20:47This is the path that you want to take in your life.
20:50Honey.
20:51Huh?
20:52He's committed.
20:53I know.
20:54He's in.
20:54Yeah, I know.
20:55It's hard.
20:56I don't know if Dawson is trying to make his dad proud.
20:59It just causes a little bit of worry or stress or something like that.
21:02Of course, I'm so proud of Dawson, but I'm a mom.
21:06They say, like, the hardest part of it isn't physical, it's mental.
21:10And so it's like, I'm kind of, like, nervous.
21:11I kind of just want it to be here already.
21:13Like, I want all this training to hurry up.
21:16What does dad say?
21:16He's just so proud of you.
21:18Yeah, he likes it.
21:18I'm proud of you from a maturity standpoint.
21:21It's just incredible how much you've grown.
21:23It is a fine line you walk as step-parents.
21:25There's been the issues with not respecting curfews.
21:28Ryan's blowing up my phone.
21:29He said, Dawson, he's banging on the door at midnight.
21:31But you shouldn't be home that late on a school night.
21:33It's a school night.
21:34I do think when it matters or it's a teachable moment, Ryan steps in.
21:38I'm going to come over there by you guys.
21:39I just want him to be in addition to, not in place of, their dad.
21:43You know the maturity thing I want to ask you?
21:45Actually, I've been stressing about this.
21:47Did you sign Harrison's school loan with dad?
21:52Yeah, I did.
21:54Harrison, did everything with your loan and everything get worked out?
21:58All that stuff, it's all done?
22:01Should be.
22:01It should be?
22:02I think so.
22:04Your dad asked me, but dad and I are not in a spot where I feel comfortable co-signing anything with dad, but you did.
22:10Yeah, you understand what that comes with.
22:14This is student loan.
22:15Dawson thinks he understands what he's signing.
22:17You don't.
22:19You're 18, barely.
22:20And you just took on USC student loans.
22:23Do you have any idea what this means?
22:25You are on the hook for Harrison student loans.
22:28It negatively impacts your ability to borrow in the future.
22:31So if you wanted to go buy a new car, they're going to look at your debt to income ratios, and they're going to show that on your debt side.
22:39Just stay in communication with your dad about that.
22:41I don't want that falling on you.
22:42So out of here?
22:43If you want to be.
22:44Oh, yeah.
22:46Holy cow.
22:47Oh, yes.
22:48He believes that Will will take care of this.
22:50Bye.
22:51Love you.
22:51But what if he can't?
22:53And what is our son supposed to do?
22:55I'm blown away.
22:57I don't love this.
22:58As a father, I could not imagine putting my son in that spot.
23:05Hello.
23:09Hello, welcome.
23:10Hi, how are you?
23:11I'm good.
23:11How are you?
23:12Good.
23:12I think we have a reservation for judge.
23:14Perfect.
23:15Write this way, please.
23:16We have wine, cocktails in the middle.
23:18Can I get a hot water with lemon?
23:20Absolutely.
23:21You're welcome.
23:23Oh, a toucan.
23:25Hey, buddy.
23:26Got some pretty blue eyes.
23:29You're the mean one.
23:30I know you're the mean one.
23:32You called me old one year.
23:35Ow!
23:36What?
23:37Did you just say old?
23:42Well, f***.
23:43Hey.
23:44Hi.
23:45How are you?
23:45You look cute.
23:46George?
23:46Oh, look at your pants.
23:48Where are you?
23:48I'm hanging in there.
23:49How are you doing?
23:50Good.
23:52Hello, ladies.
23:53Are we drinking?
23:54Whatever you want.
23:55Let's get a bottle of Luz Clicquot.
23:56Absolutely.
23:59And one of everything on the menu.
24:00Yes, I'll take it.
24:01One of everything.
24:02But can we have wine glasses instead of champagne?
24:05Absolutely.
24:06Of course.
24:06Oh, my goodness.
24:07Oh, my goodness.
24:07Oh, my goodness.
24:08Oh, my goodness.
24:08You've been very calm lately.
24:12A lot's been going on.
24:13Just this whole past six months has just been not a fun time for me.
24:19Between deep diving into therapy and Teddy and stuff.
24:22Yeah, I get that.
24:24I go down this rabbit hole every night where I just go on her Instagram and I just look
24:30at all of her videos.
24:33There's so many videos of us together and the things we've done for the past three or four
24:37years.
24:37And I don't know what's going to happen.
24:40But in my heart, I'm like, she's going to be fine.
24:43She's going to be fine.
24:44You know?
24:44And it's like this struggle inside my head.
24:47I just feel like my life in the past six months has just been such a downer.
24:52Between digging up everything from childhood to what has gone on with Sydney and all that
24:58stuff.
24:58I feel like I'm crying all the time.
25:00And I'm like, I'm sick of it.
25:01Yeah.
25:02You're doing the work on yourself.
25:04And I'll tell you, you know, and I've said it to some of the other girls, too.
25:06Like, I'm very proud of you.
25:10Just trying to do my best.
25:12You are.
25:13I've never seen Tamara go through so much emotionality.
25:17And I see her making improvements to herself and really trying.
25:23She seems balanced to me.
25:24And she's being thoughtful about her actions.
25:27I see the difference in you.
25:29And I actually, I said to Jen, and I don't understand why.
25:32You guys aren't giving Tamara any grace.
25:34And I got the sense that Gretchen now getting into the mix with Jen.
25:39Oh, it's a Tamara bashing time.
25:41And I don't like that.
25:42And I really want you at my party.
25:44Honestly, Heather, my attorney goes, no, do not be around him.
25:47Do not be around him.
25:48It's not worth it.
25:49So I did talk to her.
25:51And I brought...
25:51How'd that go?
25:52Not well.
25:53Not well.
25:53No.
25:55Just tell him he can't come.
25:56I know, but I told everyone to bring their significant others and then just say, except you.
26:03It's starting a war.
26:06Why is she inviting him?
26:07Is his friendship better than mine?
26:09That's the part that hurts my feelings.
26:12You don't have a relationship with him.
26:14No, like there's 50 people.
26:15It's a mingling, dancing, hangout vibe.
26:20Just steer clear of each other.
26:23Yeah, I don't know.
26:24Come on.
26:25Get a pretty dress.
26:26Grab your husband.
26:27I know for a fact Eddie will not go.
26:29He's like, no, I don't deal with that kind of shit.
26:31Maybe you can bring a friend.
26:35I'll think about it.
26:38Coming up.
26:40Wow.
26:41There she comes.
26:41Hello.
26:42Do you want to move?
26:43Well, what are we supposed to do?
26:44I'm not going to avoid her.
26:45Hey, Eddie, she just stay away.
26:50Woo-hoo!
26:54How much does this party cost relative to the Nobu party?
26:58Oh, more.
26:59Oh, my.
27:01Heather!
27:01Wow!
27:02Thanks.
27:03So beautiful.
27:07Like two times, three times?
27:08I'm going to call it 4X.
27:10Four times the Nobu party?
27:13Yeah, but that was the party.
27:13Wasn't her Nobu party $35,000?
27:15I'm so ready to start moving past all this banana stuff with Tamara.
27:20She can talk about me.
27:21She can stab me in the back.
27:22She can talk about you, stab you in the back.
27:24Don't make false allegations.
27:25And we don't need to go near her.
27:26No.
27:27Nor would we want to.
27:27Okay.
27:28Are you feeling okay with tonight?
27:30I'm so happy.
27:31You mean my knee?
27:32Yeah.
27:32Yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
27:33Poor Ryan.
27:34He just had knee surgery yesterday.
27:36But does Ryan have any idea how hard I fought for this invitation for him?
27:39I'm sorry about your knee, but you're going to the party with me.
27:41Thank you for going with me, honey.
27:43Of course.
27:43I know it's not opportune timing.
27:44I wish you guys could go with me tonight.
27:49I know.
27:50I mean, I really just want to talk to Shannon.
27:52Yeah.
27:52Maybe make it a point to, like, sniff that in the bud, just so that way there's no, like,
27:56peanut gallery.
27:57You mean Emily?
27:59Like, your words not mine.
28:00Woo-hoo!
28:01Bill is my date.
28:03We were on the dating show.
28:05What?
28:05I didn't know, like, whether or not you kept in contact with anybody after.
28:11Oh, no.
28:11I kept in contact with a lot of them.
28:14I just have a bench of friends.
28:16All right, then.
28:29Oh, what a great room.
28:31Look, it's the gong.
28:32I know!
28:33This is a very Heather Dubrow event.
28:34Do I feel like I have an obligation to throw a certain level of party?
28:38Yes.
28:38I have a fabulous gal sitting in a huge champagne coupe glass to pour champs.
28:44Yo.
28:45How are you?
28:45How are you?
28:46You're going to need a drink after that.
28:50I've got people rolling joints.
28:52I've got two guys doing haikus.
28:54I've got sushi and sliders and french fries and caviar bumps.
29:01You're amazing.
29:03Why the heavy filter, please?
29:07And yes, I also hired professional photographers to capture the event.
29:11Not to be confused with paparazzi.
29:13Oh, my goodness.
29:20It's so ornate.
29:21What's up?
29:22Hi.
29:23How are you?
29:24How are you?
29:25How are you?
29:25Good to see you.
29:26Thank you for having us.
29:27Happy birthday.
29:28Happy birthday.
29:29The point of having a birthday party is because it's your birthday, when you were born, when
29:34you were birthed on this earth.
29:37So two months later, it just feels random.
29:39Hi!
29:41Happy birthday!
29:42Oh, you're wearing a special martini.
29:44Yes!
29:45Some people celebrate Christmas in June.
29:48Heather celebrates her birthday whenever the f*** she wants.
29:51Travis was really sad.
29:53I know.
29:53Someone's got to be home.
29:54I so appreciate it.
29:56I love Travis.
29:56Yeah.
29:57But I totally get it.
29:58Ryan's coming, right?
29:59Jen and Ryan are coming.
30:00Yeah.
30:01By the way, I found out he had knee surgery.
30:02Jen's recently, and I'm thinking, maybe he's convalescing.
30:06Maybe he doesn't want to come.
30:09Gosh.
30:10Wow, this is pretty crazy.
30:11I mean, maybe we should get married.
30:14Let's see who's on the guest list.
30:15I'm so sorry that we have to walk this far.
30:18That's all right.
30:19I wish there was an elevator for you.
30:22Oh, I think there is an elevator.
30:23Is Tamar coming?
30:25I don't know.
30:25You don't know?
30:26I don't know.
30:27Thank you so much.
30:29What an entrance.
30:30Cheers.
30:31Cheers.
30:39This looks like a castle.
30:40It's super gaudy.
30:42That is so fun.
30:48Oh, this is amazing.
30:49Hey, baby.
30:50Oh, my God.
30:51This is insane.
30:52You're welcome.
30:52There's a shot situation.
30:57Yeah!
31:01Feel like I'm in Vegas.
31:03Yeah.
31:03It's like a Vegas party.
31:05It looks like Vegas.
31:06Yeah.
31:07It does.
31:08What are the odds on this party, Ryan?
31:11Exactly.
31:12What are the odds Katie gets violated?
31:14I want to make some bets on that.
31:16I'd like to.
31:17Oh, man.
31:21Is she in here yet?
31:22Are we just David?
31:24Wow.
31:25There she comes.
31:26Hello.
31:27Do you want to move?
31:27Well, what are we supposed to do?
31:28I'm not going to avoid her.
31:29No, don't avoid her.
31:30Yeah, sure.
31:31Don't avoid her.
31:31Katie, she could stay away.
31:33Is she here?
31:33Yeah, she's sitting there.
31:34Coming up.
31:38The fact that you're sitting here trying to define yourself.
31:43I apologize.
31:44No, you didn't.
31:45You are the most evil, evil person I have ever met.
31:50Do you want a caviar come?
31:58I do.
31:59Oh, you snorted.
32:00Cheers.
32:01Drive-by caviar is a bit much for me.
32:04It's really good caviar.
32:06Just another day in the life of Dubrow.
32:08Wow.
32:10Here she comes.
32:10Hello.
32:11Do you want to move?
32:12Well, what are we supposed to do?
32:13I'm not going to avoid her.
32:14No, don't avoid her.
32:15Katie, she could just stay away.
32:17Is she here?
32:17Yeah, she's sitting there.
32:19How are you?
32:19Hi.
32:20I'm Heather.
32:21Heather, it's your birthday.
32:22Hi, Bill.
32:24Bill and I met on the Love Hotel.
32:27Oh.
32:27And he eventually got to know all the girls,
32:30and he's one of our favorites.
32:31This is Gina.
32:32I think I may have seen you on the Instagram.
32:35Have I?
32:35Yes, you may have.
32:37Bill?
32:37Bill.
32:38This is Emily.
32:39Oh, my gosh, you have amazing teeth.
32:41Thank you, Emily.
32:42You're so nice to meet you.
32:44Yeah, look at him.
32:45Okay, at this point, I have met Earl,
32:47I have met Adam, and now I'm meeting Phil.
32:50Okay, Phil is not a neck-up friend,
32:53nor a friend with benefits.
32:54He is a friend.
32:56I just meet one, and then I meet a new one,
32:58and then there's another one.
32:59It's very entertaining for me.
33:01Drink the tequila, and you make a wish,
33:03and then you take your shot at the gong.
33:04Go ahead.
33:05Wait, the glass?
33:06Oh, my God, it's too nice.
33:07Nice.
33:08Yeah, nice.
33:09Okay, I'm going to drop it.
33:10Yeah, let's go.
33:13Come on, Shannon.
33:15Oh, my God, I didn't do it.
33:17You need another.
33:18Here, do the mocktail for the second.
33:21All right, let's go.
33:22Yay!
33:24Woo!
33:26It's done!
33:26You have to do another one.
33:29You have to hit him.
33:35I like how we just walk around, like,
33:37oh, this must be the light.
33:38Here, what is, is that the bathroom?
33:40Where the f*** are we?
33:41Wait, I'm doing stand-up later.
33:43Oh, my God, where the f*** are we?
33:45This venue used to be, like, a massive Christian television network compound,
33:53and it is giving off all of those particular vibes.
33:58Here's the bathroom.
33:59But it also feels like weird cult s***.
34:03This is so nice.
34:09It's cool, right?
34:10Yeah.
34:11So, there is a marijuana bar right there,
34:14but they'll roll you a whole thing.
34:18Oh, s***.
34:19Oh, s***.
34:19Where'd it go?
34:20It's empty, Terry.
34:21There's nothing in it.
34:22Oh, s***.
34:24How are you feeling being here?
34:27Um, I'm glad that I'm here at Heather's birthday.
34:31I never thought I would be at Heather's birthday.
34:33Me either.
34:34But seeing Shanna makes me sad.
34:36I'm like, I'm sad.
34:37She is sad.
34:38Yeah.
34:39I just don't feel in about Katie recording me at the gallery shoot.
34:44That's not dull.
34:45Yeah, no, I know.
34:46So, you're good with Tamara?
34:47Yeah.
34:48No.
34:48I'm actually really hurt by her.
34:50After going to her house, falling on the sword, apologizing,
34:54then she ran and told Gina and Emily about the recording.
34:57She, again, is stabbing me.
34:59And every time something in this group has come up about me,
35:01she's been the one to spread the information.
35:03I don't even know if she's coming.
35:05I'm surprised she's not here yet.
35:06I don't know if she will.
35:08So, is Tamara coming?
35:10I don't know.
35:10Do we know?
35:11Looking at me?
35:12I don't know.
35:12Do you know?
35:13I have not heard.
35:14Actually, I have no idea.
35:16And if she does, I got to stay away.
35:21Woo!
35:22My wife, Emily.
35:24My wife, that's like many times.
35:26We go way back.
35:28Way back.
35:29How are you?
35:30By the way, our testosterone.
35:32Oh, Dr. R.
35:33Yes, we should go together.
35:34We should.
35:35We're talking about our testosterone and our sex drive on the testosterone.
35:39I broke his penis for real.
35:41After you got the testosterone.
35:43Not before.
35:44No, honestly, it's like a real medical thing.
35:46Like if I actually broke it.
35:48Like it broke?
35:50It went like this.
35:51Beep.
35:52When it breaks, it causes scar tissue on one side of the shaft.
35:57And so now when he gets hard, it bends because this isn't getting hard, this section.
36:03And I make the joke that he's like Captain Hook.
36:05Were you on top?
36:06Yes.
36:07Oh, see, that's the only way it would break.
36:09Not from behind.
36:10Came down a little too hard.
36:11Yeah, yeah.
36:12This is beautiful.
36:14Thank you for inviting me.
36:15Yeah, of course.
36:15Thanks for coming.
36:16Have you seen Shannon?
36:18No.
36:19I sent her a text.
36:20I was apologizing.
36:22I know, she showed it to me.
36:23Oh, she did.
36:24Maybe you guys don't have a chance to talk tonight.
36:27Why is Heather chit-chatting with Katie like nothing happens?
36:31Are you kidding me?
36:32I don't know.
36:33By the way, I have to talk with my mom.
36:35I have to mingle a little, but you should get pictures with your significant others.
36:41Shannon's here.
36:42I know.
36:43I really want you to fix this.
36:45I need to ask her to chat.
36:47Okay, this is all fattening.
36:48No, no, this is not.
36:51See, you're eating sushi.
36:52Yeah, I'm going.
36:53I'm going in.
36:54I'll take this.
36:55Do you want to sit down?
36:56You can sit at that table over there.
36:58No, I do not want to sit over there.
36:59No.
37:00But I don't want that to get loud.
37:01Like, I don't want Emily around me.
37:03Maybe take Shannon and only Shannon.
37:06Yeah.
37:07Where is she?
37:08You don't want to rekindle a friendship?
37:10No.
37:10No, I'm not interested.
37:12She's over there.
37:13Why don't I go distract Phil?
37:15All right, let's go.
37:16Come on.
37:16Okay.
37:18Phil, where did you get sushi?
37:19I'm Katie.
37:21Great to meet you.
37:22Nice to meet you.
37:22Nice to meet you.
37:23Great to meet you.
37:23Can I take you over this way for a second?
37:25Can I talk to you for a minute?
37:27Sure.
37:28Come have a seat.
37:29They need to have a talk.
37:30Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God.
37:33Why does Shannon came here talking?
37:35I am very, very, very, very, very sorry.
37:39I did not mean to hurt you in any way.
37:42I have no excuse.
37:43Katie and Shannon are talking.
37:45Oh, they are?
37:45I mean, I'm hoping that it's not going to be bad.
37:49Oh, it's going to be bad.
37:50It's going to be bad?
37:51You know, Katie, you sent me a text.
37:53I did.
37:53I was giving you context.
37:54No, you were giving me excuses.
37:57And that is not an apology.
38:01What you did is illegal.
38:14You were giving me excuses.
38:17And that is not an apology.
38:19What you did is illegal.
38:22Because I expected my privacy.
38:26Okay.
38:27That day where you videotaped me, and I was upset.
38:31I don't remember what it was about.
38:34It's none of your business what it was about.
38:37Well, you came in.
38:37It was on speakerphone, and that's why.
38:40No, I went outside.
38:41No, it was at your station.
38:44And it was on speakerphone where me and Jen were sitting.
38:46Do you think she'll be able to get past her?
38:48No.
38:48No.
38:48No.
38:49No.
38:49Never of you.
38:50Would you be able to get past it?
38:52That's a tough one.
38:53You had just showed up.
38:54And is that your business?
38:57No, but you made it my business when it was on speakerphone.
39:00And I was on a Zoom call with a potential investment.
39:02Take a walk outside.
39:04You're on an important business call.
39:07But, hmm, you hung up on that business call to record me.
39:12So it wasn't that important.
39:14The fact that you're sitting here trying to define yourself.
39:18I'm apologizing to you.
39:19No, you didn't.
39:21It's your party, so I just want to bring to your attention that Shannon and Katie have a thing going over there.
39:27I didn't know if you wanted to.
39:29Like a bad thing?
39:30I don't know if you want to intervene or no.
39:32I don't know.
39:33I think we should record this conversation.
39:35Oh, we should record it.
39:37Oh, good idea.
39:39We should record it and play it later.
39:41Nothing you say ends up ever.
39:46I've gone to the bottom of the barrel with these women in this group.
39:51Yeah.
39:51Never once has anyone recorded me behind my back.
39:56Do you know who it went to, Shannon?
39:57My husband.
39:58Alexis never heard it, Shannon.
40:01I called Alexis.
40:02She said, we were at lunch.
40:04She played it for me.
40:06Oh, my God.
40:08You did it.
40:09Katie, I worry about your mental state.
40:13I really do.
40:14I'm just letting you know.
40:14You worry about my mental state?
40:16I'm calmly talking to you, and you're the one screaming and yelling.
40:20So I feel like my mental state is okay, comparatively.
40:23You were the person that sat right next to me in Sonoma when I found out that there were
40:30alleged videos of me the night of the DUI.
40:34She said he has ring cameras but had videos.
40:38Jesus.
40:38Yeah, I know.
40:39Is he, like, trying to take me down?
40:41I know.
40:41I know.
40:42And you decided, knowing all I had been through, to video record me.
40:49I did do that.
40:50Katie, no apology will ever measure up to how much you violated me because I put you now
40:58in the category of John Jansen.
41:01How dare you record?
41:04So I sued you for $75,000 that people?
41:07No, you recorded me and so did John.
41:13I went to hell last year.
41:16But what was happening to you from John and Alexis was not my fault.
41:20You are in their category.
41:22No, I'm not.
41:23It's been going on for a minute.
41:25Are you going over there?
41:25Meaning we won't show you.
41:26I thought maybe you'd just go.
41:28What?
41:28What?
41:28I know.
41:29Where I learned.
41:30Can I talk?
41:30No, because you're talking over me.
41:33Do you think Shannon needs my help?
41:35No, I think Shannon's going to leave.
41:37I feel like she's on the verge of a Shannon out.
41:40Let me make this clear.
41:41Go ahead.
41:42Katie Janela.
41:43Go ahead.
41:43I will never, ever speak to you again.
41:48You are the most evil, evil person I have ever met.
41:53The fact that you are trying to, she's trying to defend herself.
41:57No.
41:57It's insanity.
41:59What's going on?
42:00You are delusional.
42:02I'm delusional.
42:02And I am not going to let you rile me up.
42:04I'll let the ladies handle it.
42:06This girl, worse than Alexis Molino.
42:09Worse than Tamra Judge.
42:11Let's bat.
42:12We're done.
42:14Okay.
42:15All right.
42:16She left her grilled cheese.
42:17Next time on The Real Housewives of Orange County.
42:24Isn't this nice?
42:26Oh.
42:27Only you can make this happen.
42:30Oh, wow.
42:30Are you going to walk in with her?
42:32That's really good change of behavior.
42:34If Gretchen's threatened, that's her problem.
42:36Give me my popcorn.
42:37I heard you were asking Kiki Monique to put out stories.
42:42Who did you hear this from?
42:43Tamra.
42:44You are f***ing sick.
42:45Don't call me you're f***ing sick.
42:47You know what?
42:47I'm not putting up at this.
42:48Make sure you tell all your friends you have so f***ing many.
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