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During a press gaggle on Thursday, Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) spoke to CNN's Manu Raju about the Epstein files controversy.
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00:00You're coming back. Your resolution on abstain. So you're just calling for the courts to release
00:05this information. Is that right? You do. But what about the Justice Department?
00:07Well, here's the issue that we have is everything that the Justice Department has,
00:11and I don't care if it's with the FBI or if it's in Bonnie's office, all has been heard by the
00:16by the courts. There isn't anything they had that the grand jury hasn't looked at. So you're going
00:20to have to have a judge release all that information or they can't release what they
00:24have. All their findings was heard in either New York or Florida at different times. And let's
00:31be honest, regardless if it's mine or if it's his resolution, it's just a resolution.
00:38It's not binding. Yeah, it's not binding because this clear separation of powers here
00:41between legislative and judicial, the court still has to move forward. So President Trump,
00:47even though he's president of the United States, his executive branch, they cannot force the judges
00:53to release this. You saw the judge of Florida came out and said, no. Well, before we can get our
00:58hands on it, the judges have to agree to it. And I think by Pam Bondi calling on them and the
01:05president calling on them, and then us here in Congress calling on them to release the information,
01:11hopefully the judges will see it different. But until they do, that judge sitting over that case
01:16that oversaw the grand jury, as you guys know, the grand juries are pretty tight-lipped. Most of the time
01:22they don't release that information, that's all our resolution does is say, hey, please release this.
01:26Would it be helpful if the Justice Department just released all the information it has?
01:30I don't think, like I said, I don't think they can because all the information they have
01:36had been heard by the court. They wouldn't have any information.
01:39Surely some investigative material that they haven't put out yet.
01:43I would, why would they? I mean, seriously, why would they put it out?
01:46No, why would they have it if they hadn't released it all the way to the court?
01:49The files that Trump's name is apparently in, I mean, that, wouldn't you want to see that?
01:54Would Congress want to see that?
01:55Well, we've already debated that. I mean, the Wall Street Journal report that came out on that
02:00was absolutely ridiculous by an unnamed source. And the file that they're saying his name could
02:06possibly be on it, the president has made that very clear, not just this year, years ago,
02:10that was because he kicked him off his course and told him he can't be part of his club anymore.
02:15So that doesn't matter.
02:15Would you want to see that if we could, the problem that I'm having is, is that if this
02:19information was heard by the grand jury, which I believe almost all this was heard by the
02:24grand jury because they were the ones that were putting out subpoenas, any information
02:27that the court has seen through the grand jury, they cannot release it regardless if they have
02:32it or not, unless the judge releases it. And that's, that's why this stuff isn't being
02:36released. You saw that even the one judge that they've already asked has said, no, I believe
02:42it's going to repeat itself. Well, do you think that there is concern though for possible
02:46exposure for president Trump in these files? No, absolutely not. Because you know, as good
02:50as I do over the last eight years, the Democrats would already release everything, anything and
02:54everything they had. The president has been very transparent on this and I'm not concerned
02:57about that at all. I mean, my goodness, they're making stuff up about him. They made stuff up
03:01about Russia. Why would they make it? Why would they go after Russia if they had something
03:06like him on Epstein? Have you spoken to the president about your resolution at all or
03:10offered any guidance as he navigates this? No, I haven't talked to the president at all
03:13about this. When the Big Beautiful Bill came to the Senate, you guys took out most of the
03:17money that had been put in by the House for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and refilling it.

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