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Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Matthew 24:29-31

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Transcript
00:00So let me move on to the post-tribulation view, which is probably the more common one than the pre-wrath view.
00:10One of the major scriptures which points to this is Matthew 24 and verse 31.
00:20Read the whole of that passage.
00:22Matthew 24, it says,
00:23Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light,
00:29the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
00:33Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn,
00:37and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
00:42He will send his angels with the great sound of the trumpet.
00:45They will gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
00:50So according to this view, verse 31,
00:56The sound of the trumpet, the gathering of the elect, is the same event as you have in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4,
01:03where you have the sound of the trumpet and the Lord gathering together his people.
01:07So it's the same event.
01:09Now if that is the case, then there's no more argument actually,
01:13because if that's the case, then the rapture has to be at the end of the tribulation,
01:17because he says immediately after the tribulation of these days, so and so is going to happen.
01:22Okay, so this has to be basically the major point for the post-tribulation rapture.
01:30Jesus said it's going to happen after the tribulation,
01:32then the trumpet will sound and God's going to gather together his elect.
01:38If it is the same event as 1 Thessalonians 4, the rapture must come after the tribulation.
01:44And the elect equals Christians like you and me.
01:49The Lord gathers them with the sound of the trumpet.
01:52Therefore it's the same event as 1 Thessalonians 4.
01:56There are counter-arguments to that.
01:58That is not the same event.
02:00There are certain differences.
02:02And the elect who he gathers together are the Jewish people
02:07from past and present situations, so those who have died before
02:12and those who are presently believing in Jesus,
02:15and he gathers them together, and that's the gathering of his elect,
02:19who are the Jews who are saved during the tribulation period.
02:22And also, because it speaks about the...
02:26He will gather his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other.
02:34So he's not just gathering from the earth,
02:38he's gathering from one end of heaven to the other.
02:40So the possibility is he's talking about a different group of people
02:43being gathered together here before the second coming of Jesus to the earth,
02:48or at the same time, in fact.
02:53Another argument for this is the word parousia.
02:56The word parousia is a Greek word for the coming of the Lord, for his saints,
03:00often used to describe the visit of a king to one of his cities,
03:05where he'd be met by a group of his officials and relatives
03:08who then accompany him in procession into the city,
03:11as seen by the resident population.
03:14In this case, the two events follow each other.
03:16First of all, taken up, gathered to meet with the Lord,
03:19then come back with him as a kind of reception committee, if you like.
03:23Interestingly, if you look at the book of Acts, chapter 28,
03:25you have a similar situation when Paul arrived in Rome.
03:30News came that Paul was coming,
03:31and a whole group of people who were believers came out to meet Paul
03:34and went with him into Rome as a kind of reception committee.
03:39So the post-tribulation view is that that is really what happens
03:41at the rapture of the church.
03:43God gathers together the believers so that they will come back with him
03:45as a kind of welcoming committee, bringing Jesus back to the earth.
03:51It happens at the same time.
03:52So you have straight up, straight back again,
03:56not straight up, seven-year period in between,
03:59or even a three-and-a-half-year period.
04:01It's all in one.
04:03Okay, those are the major issues relating to the post-tribulation rapture.