Greg Murphy Makes Bombshell Claim Multiple Voters In North Carolina 'Got Mailed Five Ballots'

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During a House Administration Committee hearing on Tuesday, Rep. Greg Murphy (R-NC) spoke about North Carolina's voter registration laws.

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00:00I now recognize Dr. Murphy of North Carolina for five minutes.

00:05Thank you, Madam Chairman.

00:07You know, I've been in Congress a little over five years now,

00:09and I feel it's kind of like a basketball game,

00:11where the guy who does the wrong thing first,

00:15and then the other person, maybe he fouls one player first,

00:18and the second player who responded,

00:20it's everybody who puts the attention to the response

00:22rather than the primary problem to begin with.

00:25And that's what it seems to be.

00:26We always scream at what the reaction is

00:27rather than the real problem itself.

00:29Nobody is saying that our election system is perfect.

00:33Nobody is saying that.

00:34We live in a human society.

00:35We have human frailty.

00:37We're not saying that.

00:38Mistakes happen.

00:40And that's why we have reform.

00:42You know, it's very interesting.

00:43We're talking about the North Carolina Board of Elections

00:46and how Ms. Helding, you know, really got screwed by them.

00:51Absolutely.

00:52But I think I just want to point out

00:53that the North Carolina Board of Elections

00:55has been run by Democrats for many, many years,

00:57and I'm happy to say that now the legislature

01:01has taken control of the North Carolina Board of Elections

01:03and turned it over to Republican control.

01:06And now the Republicans have begun

01:08the registration repair project

01:10to ensure that all eligible voters

01:13have accurate and complete information on file.

01:16Imagine that.

01:16We're actually running a system that works.

01:18The State Board of Elections has publicly announced

01:21that the project will not result

01:23in the removal of any eligible voters.

01:26So we had a horribly run democratic system

01:30that Ms. Helig had the terrible experience

01:35of having to deal with,

01:36and now the adults have come into the room

01:38and said,

01:39we're actually going to run something right.

01:41That's great.

01:42You know, look, we sat right here.

01:44You all sat at that table

01:45when the Michigan Secretary of State sat there,

01:47and she would not allow the removal

01:49of over 22,000 dead people.

01:52How are we supposed to respond to that,

01:54Republican or Democrat?

01:55How do you respond to that?

01:56That's fraud, period, point blank.

01:58And that's our job,

01:59is to ensure that those people

02:01are taken off the rolls.

02:03We don't want any eligible voter removed.

02:05The experience that you went through, man, was horrible.

02:07I'm sorry for that on the part of North Carolina.

02:11But, you know, damn,

02:12if we want our elections to be secure,

02:14it's okay that we look at this stuff.

02:17It's much more,

02:18it's much worse

02:19if we have somebody voting who shouldn't

02:21than somebody, sadly enough,

02:22had to go through what you did.

02:23So I apologize for that.

02:26There's a new sheriff in town in North Carolina,

02:27and hopefully they'll run it in a system

02:29that actually works

02:30rather than having 200,000 people put on a roll

02:34where their voting rights are questioned.

02:37I'll turn back.

02:39Mr. Reamer, just a couple questions.

02:41The federal requirements

02:43for notifying voters

02:44before removing them from voter rolls.

02:47Can you expand on those a little bit?

02:49Absolutely.

02:50So once an election official

02:52has reason to believe

02:53that a voter may have moved, for example,

02:56they are required to mail

02:58what's known as a confirmation mailing.

03:00And that is sent to the address

03:03where the voter is registered affordable.

03:05So if the voter has moved somewhere else,

03:07in theory,

03:08that piece of mail is supposed to go

03:10to their new address.

03:12So that is how the process works.

03:15When that mail does not come back

03:16to the election official

03:17or the voter does not return it,

03:20saying, I've moved,

03:21cancel me from the voter rolls,

03:22which is what happens only 30% of the time.

03:25The voters only request cancellation

03:27about 30% of the time

03:29or notify the election official

03:30that they're still there

03:31and not to remove them.

03:33And what happens is

03:35those election officials,

03:36unless they hear from the voter,

03:37they have to wait for up to four years

03:39until they can remove that individual

03:42from the voter rolls.

03:42Yes.

03:43I mean, it just, you know,

03:44I had a former colleague,

03:46anesthesiologist,

03:46who we were in the operating room

03:48talking one day,

03:48and he was livid

03:49because he went to vote

03:50and someone had voted in his place.

03:52So to say this stuff doesn't occur

03:54is absolutely wrong.

03:55And then I've had patients who said,

03:57yes, I got mailed five ballots,

04:00five ballots to my house.

04:01But so to want to clean up this system

04:05is not wrong.

04:06It's not wrong.

04:07It is absolutely the right thing to do.

04:11I just, I'm baffled

04:12that people want to fight that.

04:14One other question.

04:17Actually, Mr. Adams,

04:18thanks for being here today.

04:20What is the best practice for states

04:22to share voter identification role

04:24with each other?

04:25And I will say this real quickly,

04:27and maybe my time might run out.

04:29I apologize.

04:30You know,

04:31Social Security has a great pension.

04:32If somebody dies,

04:33you get a notice pretty damn quick

04:35that you're not getting your benefits.

04:37Why can't we tie that to voter rolls?

04:41Wouldn't that be an interesting concept?

04:42But anyway,

04:42I'll let you answer your question.

04:43The best is commercial data.

04:45Commissioner Don Palmer

04:46at the EAC

04:47has advocated for this.

04:48I'm on the Board of Advisors

04:49of the Election Assistance Commission.

04:52We have advocated

04:53at Public Interest Legal Foundation

04:54use Experian commercial data

04:56as the most accurate.

04:58There's a cost,

04:59but we can figure this out.

05:00Yeah.

05:00All right.

05:00Thank you, Madam Chair.

05:01Thank you for my yield back.

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