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Your pitch deck isn’t just slides — it’s a story. Learn startup storytelling techniques that help founders win VC funding, attract customers, and align teams.
🎙️ In this episode of Startuprad.io, startup narrative expert Ehud Dror breaks down the psychology behind high-impact founder stories. He reveals why most decks fail, how to avoid information overload, and how emotional resonance can help you raise faster — and lead better.
📌 What You'll Learn:
What makes a pitch resonate with investors
Why clarity + momentum matter more than tech
How to frame deep tech so non-technical people care
How to craft your founder “why” for Series A–C funding
The narrative structure that works from pitch to IPO
👤 About the Guest:
Ehud Dror is a storytelling strategist who’s helped Israel’s most innovative startups communicate their ideas with clarity and power — from deep tech to SaaS to medtech. His clients raise millions using his founder-first storytelling approach.
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🎙️ In this episode of Startuprad.io, startup narrative expert Ehud Dror breaks down the psychology behind high-impact founder stories. He reveals why most decks fail, how to avoid information overload, and how emotional resonance can help you raise faster — and lead better.
📌 What You'll Learn:
What makes a pitch resonate with investors
Why clarity + momentum matter more than tech
How to frame deep tech so non-technical people care
How to craft your founder “why” for Series A–C funding
The narrative structure that works from pitch to IPO
👤 About the Guest:
Ehud Dror is a storytelling strategist who’s helped Israel’s most innovative startups communicate their ideas with clarity and power — from deep tech to SaaS to medtech. His clients raise millions using his founder-first storytelling approach.
🎧 Subscribe to Startuprad.io Podcast
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🌐 Global Podcast Network: https://globalpodcast.network/
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Learn more here: http://startuprad.io/post/the-startup-storytelling-playbook-craft-narratives-that-win-investors-and-customers
🔖 Related Topics
#StartupStorytelling #FounderNarrative #VCPitchTips #DACHstartups #Startupradio #Entrepreneurship #TechFounders
🧠 Want more strategic insights?
Explore our blog: https://www.startuprad.io/blog
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00:00Welcome to StartupRad.io, your podcast and YouTube blog covering the German startup scene
00:13with news, interviews, and live events.
00:19Hello and welcome everybody.
00:22This is Joe from StartupRad.io, your go-to startup podcast for startup founders,
00:27scale-up executives, and venture capital insiders.
00:31In today's episode, we dive into the power of strategic storytelling for startup growth
00:38with our guest Ehud Dror, founder of Tailoring Your Story.
00:44Ehud is a renowned startup pitch expert and narrative strategist who helps tech founders
00:50to turn complex ideas into founding-ready investor decks, go-to-market messages, and memorable
00:59keynote stories.
01:01With a track record of guiding some of Israel's most innovative startups, Ehud unpacks how clarity,
01:08belief, and emotional resonance can differentiate your brand, attract VC funding, and align your
01:15team. If you're a B2B SaaS founder, deep tech entrepreneur, or a growth stage executive
01:21preparing to pitch, this episode is packed with insights on using startup storytelling,
01:27pitch check optimization, and strategic communication to win in competitive markets.
01:34Ah, we met at the EU Startup Summit in Malta, and now, welcome, Dror.
01:38Welcome, Ehud.
01:40Sorry.
01:40Welcome, Ehud.
01:41Welcome to StartupRadio.
01:43Hi, hi.
01:46I'm very excited to be here.
01:48It is my pleasure.
01:50Let us dive in straight with narrative and strategic communications.
01:56It's all about storytelling with you, but why is storytelling the most underutilized tool
02:02in startup growth?
02:04Oh, wow.
02:05So, I like how you dove into the pain point at the very first question.
02:11I mean, but I wouldn't be a storyteller if I didn't start with the sentence, let me tell
02:17your story, right?
02:18So, let me tell your story.
02:21Most founder think storytelling is something you do at the end, when in fact it should shape
02:27everything from the start.
02:29Founders often invest in product, in tech, go to market, but forget what makes people believe.
02:37Storytelling isn't fluff.
02:38It's a strategy dressed as a narrative.
02:41It aligns your team.
02:43It earns investors' trust and helps customers understand what you do and, most importantly,
02:50why it matters.
02:52I mean, most speeches I see are loaded with features and jargon.
02:58Most entrepreneurs use them to sound bright and trendy.
03:02And they think the big tech world make the difference.
03:07But who really understands what the algorithm or how the algorithm works, right?
03:13Investors and partners.
03:15Actually, I have to tell you, Ehud, what is really interesting is the longer I do this,
03:22the more I can really feel you.
03:25For the very simple reason, you go on the website or you listen to a presentation of one of the founders
03:30and he drones on for like 20 minutes.
03:32And at the end, you think, what the hell are you guys actually doing?
03:36Yeah.
03:37Right?
03:37That is a point you're trying to make and I've seen so, so often.
03:41Yeah.
03:42So, basically, the algorithm, no one understands how it works, include investors.
03:48So, you can feel free to let that part go.
03:52So, investors and partners, at the end of the day, seeking clarity, vision, conviction, okay?
04:01A great story delivers all three.
04:03Startups that know how to tell their story don't just raise money faster.
04:08They move faster because once people believe in you, you're halfway there.
04:14When people believe in you, you're halfway there.
04:18That's a pretty good quote.
04:20So, we already talked about startup narratives.
04:24What makes a startup narrative resonate with both the investor and the customer community?
04:33So, that is a great question, but the simple answer would be that it doesn't.
04:38The more complex answer would be that the best startup stories live at the intersection of vision and relevance.
04:57For investors, it's about scalability and belief.
05:02They want to know you're solving a real problem in a way that can grow.
05:07Customers, on the other hand, it's about empathy and clarity.
05:11They don't want to know you understand them or they do want to know you understand them and can improve their lives.
05:18A resonant narrative bridges both by answering three questions.
05:22Why now?
05:24What urgency drives this?
05:26Why you?
05:26I mean, what makes this team and solution credible?
05:30And why should anyone care?
05:32So, that's where the emotional hook lives.
05:35A good narrative knows how to speak to both and speak the language of opportunity to investors and value to customers.
05:46And it does it both without switching personalities.
05:51When you hit that sweet spot, your story doesn't just reason it.
05:54It compels action.
05:58You mentioned clarity and momentum.
06:01How do you build that in a pitch, especially a short one?
06:05Okay, so clarity and momentum are two rails every great story runs on.
06:11Clarity means stripping your message down to the one thing you want people to remember.
06:17It's not about dumping things down.
06:19It's about making complexity unavoidable.
06:25When I start working on a story, I always ask, if your audience remembers only one sentence, what should it be?
06:32That's your signal.
06:34Everything else supports it.
06:37Then comes the momentum part.
06:38And that's where most pitches fall flat.
06:43Momentum is the feeling that things are already moving.
06:47And the only smart thing to do is to join the ride.
06:51A good example would be showing traction early or use a quote or a win, a number that proves motion,
06:58and a structure in your pitch like a story arch.
07:01Don't just inform people.
07:03Escalate.
07:04End with a vision.
07:06So people lean forward, not back.
07:08When you combine clarity with momentum, you don't just explain your idea.
07:13You drew people into it.
07:15People are looking for that hook.
07:17So give them something to aspire to.
07:19Can you walk us through?
07:27I've seen some examples when preparing for this interview.
07:30Can you walk us through how you turned quantum computing into a story about speed?
07:36Because many people talk about quantum computing.
07:40Yeah, they're small things and they do something.
07:43That is not really a story, isn't it?
07:45Yeah, absolutely.
07:46So that's an excellent example of taking a complex message and simplifying it.
07:54One of my clients, a partner at a VC firm, asked how to explain quantum computing to a non-technical audience.
08:03So instead of starting with definitions, I reframe the whole concept with one word, speed.
08:11I opened with Usain Bolt's 9.58 second world record.
08:15This is something everyone instantly relates to and understand and get.
08:20And then I positioned quantum computing as the next leaps in computer processing power.
08:26Not just faster, but a new kind of speed.
08:30And to get the full picture or to bring it to life, I used metaphors like the flesh.
08:35Again, not to explain physics, but to paint a picture of limitless potential.
08:41We showed how this new kind of acceleration could transform fields like medicine, cybersecurity, and finance.
08:52So basically what we did is we swapped equations for metaphors, confusion for clarity, and abstraction for emotional resonance.
09:01So once we planned that, the right association, the rest was given.
09:10I was wondering, what's your take on why so many pitch decks fail to convert?
09:18Is it just you pitching the wrong VC?
09:22You pitching the wrong vertical, the wrong stage?
09:25Or is it simply the story fails?
09:27Okay, so as long as it's just both of us on this conversation, let me tell you a secret.
09:35Most pitch decks...
09:36Just you and me and 50,000 listeners.
09:39Yeah.
09:41Okay, go ahead.
09:43So let me tell you a secret.
09:45Most pitch decks fail not because the idea is bad.
09:49I mean, some ideas are not worth mentioning, but the majority fails because the story is broken.
09:55A good deck transforms the way people feel about your opportunity.
10:02The problem is that founders are often too close to the product.
10:06They try to explain everything.
10:08Features, deck, milestones.
10:11And in the process, they worry the one thing investors need, the belief.
10:17A pitch deck isn't a data dump.
10:19There is a considerable difference between dumping data, even if it's a good one, and telling a story.
10:26Telling a story is a belief-building tool, after all.
10:30You're not just pitching your solution.
10:32Most of the time, what fails is decks are too long or too technical or too flat, lacking momentum or flow that resonates with the audience.
10:44Storylines that feel scattered, like a list, not a journey, and no emotional anchor, I mean, just logic.
10:51And most importantly, no why.
10:54One of the most quoted TED Talks, Why, by Simon Sinek, discusses where great leadership and innovation begin.
11:02Sinek explains that people don't buy what you do.
11:05They buy why you do it.
11:07The most successful leaders inspired by communication from the inside out.
11:12I mean, starting with the purpose.
11:14Then how, then what?
11:16Show a clear signal from slide one.
11:19What are we solving and why now?
11:22A founder who gets the market, not just the tech, and the structure that builds confidence slide by slide.
11:30This is the way to do it.
11:31I totally know what you mean.
11:37Let us get a little bit into fundraising and pitch coaching, because a lot of people out there, usually we start with our audience around, with our coverage around Series A.
11:51But I do get the message that a lot of our audience is Series A, B, but mostly Series C founders.
12:00So, therefore, that's actually a different level, because you have somebody who's working for you.
12:07You have coaches that work with you on that.
12:12But what do top-performing investor presentations have in common?
12:18So, I would like to address this matter from a broader range of stories, because we all have all kinds of stories supporting our day-to-day, whether it's marketing, sales, product, finance, IPO, internal stories, and so on.
12:37So, I did some research and looked at the top 20 rated TED Talks, and found some similarities between them.
12:45First of all, they all use the platform to its maximum.
12:51You have limited time to convey your message, first of all, clear ideas, narrative structure, visual simplicity, of course, authentic delivery, data-supporting storytelling, and compelling conclusion.
13:08In his TED Talk, How to Avoid Death by PowerPoint, David J.P. Phillips emphasized the importance of designing presentation that aligns with our brain cognitive capabilities.
13:21He advocates simplicity by focusing on one message per slide, minimizing text, and utilizing visual to enhance understanding, creating more engaging and effective presentation.
13:33A great example would be Al Gore, that effectively conveyed complex climate data through impactful visual in his An Inconvenient True presentation.
13:46I think everybody remembers him for this lift he was on, right?
13:53Yeah, absolutely.
13:54Another great example would be Steve Jobs in his iPhone launch, concluded with the iconic phrase, one more thing, introducing a surprise element that left a lasting impression.
14:09And there are many more examples of great stories that can maximize the audience's attention by following all these fundamentals.
14:18Can you describe a moment when a storytelling shift led to funding success?
14:24Well, I'll answer that with a story, but not from a startup point of view, but from recent events that can teach us how a great story is formed.
14:36Yuval Rafael, Israeli representative for Eurovision 2025, which was held a few weeks ago, didn't win the audience's favor with 13 deux poids and second place overall just because of the music.
14:51I mean, she's a great singer, no doubt, but if we go deep, we will find an unbelievable story.
14:59To those of you who don't know her story, she's a survivor from the Nova Festival on October 7th,
15:08after playing tech for hours until she was rescued.
15:11And she captured hearts and global attention because her performance carried something deeper, a story of identity, intensity, if you'd like, an unapologetic authenticity.
15:25This is something you can't fake.
15:26I mean, she wasn't just singing a song.
15:29She was telling a story of resilience, of self-expression, of belonging.
15:33And that emotional clarity is exactly what changes the game in startup storytelling, too.
15:40If you can build that in your pitch, the rest will follow.
15:43I was just checking on eBay while you were talking with this Nova Festival, we got into very tough content.
15:53I was just checking, such a scissor lift as Al Gore used, it should be worth for you a few thousand euros.
16:00So, I would not recommend it to use it for your next presentation, especially if you do air travel.
16:07Well, okay, keeping a little bit too off, fundraising and pitch coaching, how can a founder translate his or her belief into deck or keynote?
16:21So, referring back to Simon Sinek, TED Talk, the most essential belief tool is start with why.
16:29And the answer can't be because I want to change the world or to make money or like every beauty queen wants to stop world hunger.
16:38You know this?
16:40That's definitely possible.
16:41Or world peace.
16:44Or world peace, right.
16:47So, because all these things are too vague, too universal and too emotionally hollow at the end of the day,
16:55it doesn't create the resonance because anyone can say it.
16:58And many do.
17:00So, it's like saying I want to be happy.
17:03Okay, it's true, but it's not specific, earned or anchored in personal insight.
17:09So, I often use the Pixar Story Spine.
17:13It's used to craft emotionally compelling, clear and memorable narratives.
17:18And it works just as well for startups as it does for animated films.
17:22So, basically what it means, you're not selling the idea.
17:27You're inviting belief through a narrative arch.
17:31You go from the personal spark or your personal spark to problem, to solution, to vision.
17:39The audience isn't just informed.
17:41They're emotionally involved.
17:43It has six steps for creating a story.
17:45So, once upon a time, everyday problem, until one day, because of that, until finally, and ever since then.
17:55So, now let's check this out, how it really works.
17:59So, every story starts with once upon a time, right?
18:04Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh-huh.
18:08So, describe what was broken in the world before you started.
18:13For example, once upon a time, small businesses were invisible online.
18:19Continue with everyday problem.
18:21Describe the frustrating status quo or the reality your audience relates to.
18:27Every day, they spent hours creating content that no one saw, okay?
18:35Until one day, what was your spark?
18:38The insight, the frustration or problem that made you act.
18:43Until one day, we realized the problem wasn't effort, it was a strategy.
18:49And because of that, introduce your product or solution, but not as a pitch, but as a natural response.
18:56Because of that, we built a platform that uses AI to optimize every piece of content in real time.
19:03Because of that, you can show traction here or momentum or proof, emotional payoff.
19:10Because of that, our users doubled their reach in under a month.
19:15Until finally, describe the transformation, what success looked like with you in the picture.
19:21Until finally, small businesses had the voice that could compete with big brands.
19:27And ever since then, paint the future, your vision that you're building, invite the belief in.
19:34And ever since then, we've been on a mission to level the playing field for small creators anywhere.
19:41So that would be an example of using a well-known model and translating it into our needs.
19:49The mechanism stays the same, but the story changes according to our goal.
19:54Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, exactly.
19:56So I was wondering, we are already getting into the next question.
20:00Because you have the same startup story for different goals.
20:04One's for the VCs, one's for the customers, and one's for the media.
20:08How do you do that?
20:10So one of the first questions we ask at the beginning of a project is who my target audience is.
20:20Think your story is like a diamond.
20:25It has the same shape, but different light or different angles catch different light.
20:31The core story or essence stays the same, but the emphasis shifts depending on who's listening.
20:39VCs are interested in considerable market insight, the size of the opportunity, the team unfairs advantage.
20:48They're looking for momentum and scalability, betting on growth, not just the idea.
20:55For example, we've identified a massive shift in the industry and are building the infrastructure to power it.
21:04Customers, on the other hand, are looking to see if you got them.
21:08Lead with the problem they face.
21:11Use their language, their pain points.
21:14Show empathy before features and benefits before specs.
21:18I mean, a good example would be, you know that fast trading moment when XYZ happens?
21:26We fix it, okay?
21:28Media looking for a story worth telling or a breaking news.
21:34You can lead with a hook, a surprising stat, a bold claim if you would like, a human moment.
21:40Position the startup in a culture or industry trend.
21:46Something like, in a world flooded with AI hype, this team quietly built a tool that helps humans think better.
21:54So, remember the diamond.
21:56It has the same shape, but different angles catch different light.
22:00Mm-hmm, understood.
22:02We get a little bit deeper now into psychology and emotional leverage because storytelling actually appears to emotions, to psychology.
22:21That's the way it works.
22:23What role does this emotional resonance play in high-stakes communication?
22:29So, emotional resonance is the difference between being heard and being remembered.
22:41A perfect example of this is Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream speech.
22:47If you had stood on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and presented statistics, we might have heard him, but we wouldn't have remembered him.
22:56So, instead, he painted a vivid emotional picture.
23:01I have a dream that my four little children will one day, and so on and so on.
23:06So, emotion is what moves people to act.
23:10It feels personal.
23:12It bypasses the doubt.
23:14And it's about being human, after all.
23:16Take our day-to-day, for example.
23:19We are all surrounded by messages all day, at work, on our way to home, and with our loved ones.
23:25But ask yourself what you remember at the end of the day.
23:30I mean, what you honestly remember.
23:32And the answer would be close to nothing.
23:35But if you keep in mind that you're not just transferring information, whether it is for a pitch deck, company story, or any other story you need to pass.
23:46You're transferring emotion, urgency, and trust, after all.
23:52Then you would be on the right path of conveying a good message.
23:57I'll give you an example of a story I built for a construction company that wanted to sell its building project.
24:04Took the basic term of home.
24:06We took the basic term of home and then transformed it into something emotional by giving home a meaning.
24:13We did it by taking the phrase home sweet home and said that the home is more than just four walls and a rooftop.
24:22Home is our memories.
24:24It's our dreams and hopes.
24:25It's our whole life.
24:26So, once we created that emotion, a home went from four walls and a rooftop to something bigger that people can relate to.
24:35That makes sense.
24:38What is the best way for founders to tell vulnerable but also authentic stories without losing any trust?
24:48So, we'll start with the bottom line here.
24:51Vulnerability builds trust as long as it serves the story and not the founder's ego.
24:57People don't lose trust when you're vulnerable.
24:59They lose trust when you pretend everything is perfect.
25:03Share the challenge but not the chaos.
25:05I mean, tell us what was hard but show us how you overcome it.
25:11A good example would be something like we almost gave up after the product failed but what we learned reshaped everything.
25:20I mean, frame failure as fuel.
25:24When asked about his success, Michael Jordan said, I succeeded because I failed.
25:29Vulnerability becomes strength when it leads to insight, action, or growth.
25:34If you're not saying we messed up, you're saying we got smarter faster, balance the emotion with clarity, show heart but stay grounded after all.
25:46So, investors and teams need to feel both your humanity and your leadership.
25:52Make it relevant, of course.
25:55If you're telling a vulnerable story, it should support your core message and not the other way around.
25:59In strategic messaging, there's always talked about signal and noise.
26:10How do you approach that and can you tell us a little bit about what is signal, what is noise?
26:15Because I personally, I run startup rate.io mostly by myself with some assistance and I get up to 100 emails a day.
26:26No kidding, you guys.
26:27And the question is, how would you, for example, stick out from all this noise that surrounds me that I get your message?
26:36So, as you said, first, let's remember what signal is and what noise is.
26:41Signal is what truly matters.
26:44Noise is all the rest.
26:45Simple as that.
26:47But the hardest part of strategic messaging is deciding what not to say.
26:52I mean, in every founder's story, there's a ton of noise, feature, metrics, buzzword, even good intentions.
27:00Remember the quantum computing story?
27:02It had the potential of being a flop using buzzwords.
27:06Founders tend to use the everything is important method.
27:10But it comes to think about it.
27:13If everything is important, nothing stands out.
27:17That's where the signal comes in.
27:19Signal is the one thing that must land.
27:22The sharp truth you want people to remember when the meeting ends.
27:26What sets you apart?
27:27What sets you apart?
27:28From my experience working with hundreds of companies, this is the most challenging part and the heart of every process of creating a winning story.
27:38It requires some skill, a broad understanding, and the ability to listen.
27:44My approach is to zoom out before you zoom in.
27:49Always look at the big picture using the one slide test.
27:54So once you find it, the rest will eliminate what's nice to say.
28:00Test each slide to see how it fits the overall flow and whether he creates the momentum you are seeking.
28:06All of these create the differentiation between a signal and noise.
28:14I see.
28:15So noise is what does not matter and signal is what matters.
28:19I think I'll keep that in mind for future communications.
28:23Guys, we will be back after a short ad break.
28:25Hey, guys, welcome back with Ehud as my guest here.
28:35We are talking about storytelling and communications.
28:39And we already talked about there is a lot of complexity in startups.
28:46Talked about simplifying a complex story.
28:50Can you walk us through your framework for explaining, for example, deep tech to non-technical stakeholders?
28:58Okay.
28:59So explaining deep tech to non-technical stakeholders, whether it's investors, partner, or end user, is tricky because the tech is the easy way to go.
29:10And most of the time, they found a safe place.
29:13So in order to avoid that, we need to keep it simple, as you said.
29:18Use analogs that support your message by creating imagery.
29:24Usain Bolt, the flesh, quantum computing.
29:27Avoid the jargon.
29:29Remember, no one understands the algorithm.
29:32So remember that.
29:34And it's not that important at that stage of the presentation, the jargon,
29:43because people tend to use it in order to sound smart.
29:50Okay.
29:50So avoid it.
29:52Just put it aside.
29:56Show the journey, not the code.
29:58I mean, you need to map the user or business flow, not the algorithm.
30:04Use images to demonstrate what you mean.
30:06We call it visual storytelling.
30:10So today we use AI tools to create any image we want to convey a precise message.
30:19Understand what your target audience is looking for and try to give it to them.
30:23Learn from the competition, obviously.
30:26I mean, see what they say.
30:27You might know how to say it better or differently.
30:30And please keep it simple.
30:32I mean, keep in mind that your message needs to be understood by an eight-year-old.
30:38If an eight-year-old can understand your message, you're on the right way.
30:43That reminds me of one of my first bosses who is actually listening to this podcast.
30:50And he told me, if you write a presentation on capital markets in consulting,
30:55make sure your grandmother would understand it.
30:57And I do believe that that's something that could really stick to you.
31:02We just talked about jargon.
31:05How can founders avoid falling into steadily talking in jargon,
31:10but still preserve credibility within the respective sub-scene,
31:15for example, in deep tech, fintech, and so on and so forth?
31:18So I think we already covered that.
31:21But jargon pushes people away versus clarity that invites them in.
31:27We keep the credibility, but wrapped it in a story everyone can relate to
31:33and understand at the end of the day.
31:35In your case, it was your grandmother.
31:38In my case, it was my eight-year-old son.
31:41Yes, that works.
31:43Are there certain elements that are essential
31:46when pitching highly complex, highly technical products for highly, highly complex content?
31:54Yeah.
31:54So most of the time, the more highly tech, the more complex the message is.
32:00When you pitch something highly technical, such as quantum computing or AI,
32:05the elements of the story are the same in every story.
32:08But remember that the tech, at the end of the day, doesn't close the deal.
32:13The story does.
32:14It goes back to clarity, simplicity, and using plain language.
32:19You don't have to hide the tech, obviously, but you must translate it.
32:23Focus on the problem, not the product.
32:25For example, we are solving a $1 billion problem in supply chain trust,
32:32not just building a better blockchain.
32:34Because blockchain is abstract, but supply chain, everyone understands.
32:40Technical doesn't mean boring, and technical doesn't always mean it's the signal.
32:45If it serves you right, so absolutely use it.
32:48But if not, let's try to find out what your advantage is.
32:52The one thing that you do that nobody else does.
32:56Let's go a little bit into go-to-market and growth.
33:00As I said, we do have different audiences here, different stages of entrepreneurs.
33:09Do you have any narrative strategies that work best during different stages,
33:15like early stage, series A, scale-up?
33:18Is there a difference?
33:19Yeah, absolutely there is a difference.
33:23So our name is tailoring your story because we don't have a one-size-fits-all policy.
33:30As you said, different fundraising stages demand different narratives, strategies.
33:38Because the audience mindset and what they are betting on, it evolves all the time.
33:44For example, pre-seed or seed, we usually sell the founder or the insight and the belief.
33:51Because this is the leg we can stand on.
33:55Series A shifts from belief to traction, show that the story is starting to come true.
34:02Scale-up, we will position ourselves as category leaders, owning the narrative.
34:09We approach every story according to its goal, target audience, and main message we want to convey.
34:16That makes sense.
34:21So in different growth stages, you do have different stories to tell.
34:27And how can a clear story accelerate your go-to-market strategy or product-market fit?
34:33A clear story can massively become a fundamental way to go to market and strengthen it, but not to replace it.
34:41It might help execute and support it better.
34:45Because when your story is sharp, everyone from product to sales to investors understand what you're building, who is it for, and why it matters now.
34:56It sharpens your customer lens.
34:58It arms your sales and marketing teams.
35:01It reduces friction in the funnel.
35:04People will convert faster.
35:06A clear story doesn't just tell the world what you're doing.
35:10It tells your company and employees where to aim and how to move faster and achieve your goal.
35:19We've talked about positive parts of the story, but is there a common mistake, a common storytelling mistake that kills startup momentum?
35:33Absolutely.
35:34So the first mistake would be not doing all the things we talked about so far.
35:40But a company's story is like a living creature.
35:44It needs to be updated and examined all the time.
35:49Momentum in storytelling isn't about speed.
35:52It's clarity.
35:54It's tension.
35:55And there isn't to keep going.
35:57A powerful example is the opening of the first Harry Potter book.
36:03When JK Rowley doesn't rush through action or overwhelmed with the magical details.
36:09I mean, she builds the momentum and tension.
36:12Momentum by creating clarity.
36:14A seamlessly ordinary boy living under the stairs.
36:18And then comes the tension.
36:20Strange things are happening.
36:21Letters keep arriving.
36:23And no one will explain why.
36:26And the most important thing is a reason to keep going.
36:32Who is Harry?
36:33Why is he different?
36:35Readers are pulled forward not by speed, but by emotional investment and unanswered questions.
36:44That storytelling momentum.
36:46I mean, not how fast the plot moves, but how deeply it makes you need to know what happens next.
36:52I see.
36:54I see that.
36:55That's interesting.
36:56From Harry Potter, I always have in mind, like when they go out, when they avoid all the letters,
37:01when they go out and have like all the trees, the buildings surrounding covered in owls.
37:09That's what I have in mind.
37:12Going a little bit into the last few questions, because I am bombarding you with questions for almost 40 minutes now.
37:21Talk a little bit about differentiation and competition.
37:26Sometimes it feels like you're swimming in an ocean of startups.
37:31How does a narrative help to shape your positioning?
37:37Okay.
37:38So narrative is positioning with the heartbeat.
37:43Positioning tells me where you are, but the narrative tells me why I should care.
37:47It gives investors something to bet on.
37:52It gives customers something to believe in.
37:55And it gives your team a reason to show up with fire every day.
37:59For example, you're not just a fintech tool.
38:04You're restoring financial dignity.
38:07Or you're not just a cybersecurity platform.
38:10You're defending the edge of digital trust.
38:15Or you're not just optimizing workflows.
38:19You're reclaiming hours of human focus.
38:23Once you set the narrative, it should guide you through the whole story.
38:27You're doing good.
38:29And we do have a last question ahead of us.
38:33Still differentiation and competition.
38:35How can storytelling help founders to defend either against copycats or even larger competitors?
38:43So this question reminds me of the times we're experiencing in this era of AI.
38:51The one thing AI can't replace yet is our emotions and intuition.
38:58In a world where anyone can copy your product, your story and strategy becomes your strongest defense.
39:05Because features can be cloned, but trust and emotional connection, those take time to build and are almost impossible to steal once you build them right.
39:17You can be a shoe company, but you can't just do it like Nike.
39:21Or you can manufacture computers and phones, but you can't think different like Apple.
39:28So a good story anchors your uniqueness and it shifts the conversation from features to value.
39:36For the close, I was wondering, we are just on the onset of the age of AI.
39:45What would be your boldest prediction about how storytelling will change startup fundraising by, let's say, 2030?
39:52Wow, that's, well, when it comes down to it, storytelling isn't a trend.
40:06I mean, it has been a core human communication technique since prehistoric times, if you would like.
40:12It's one of the oldest tools we have used long before written language to pass down knowledge or culture or, say, survival skills.
40:24People tend to remember stories from childhood, like Hansel and Gretel or Cinderella, for example.
40:32Today, AI can make you a good pitch deck.
40:35But good as it is, it's not good enough anymore because everyone is good and uses the same AI.
40:43Storytelling will take you from good to excellent, from 9 to 10.
40:49It will always be the difference between, actually, it will always be the difference and turning point between success and failure.
40:59In the future, I think storytelling won't just support the fundraising process.
41:04It will be the fundraising process.
41:06So, while the tools have changed from caves to slides or from firelight to spotlight, the strategy remains the same.
41:15All you have to do is choose the right storyteller to walk you through this process.
41:19So, that means if you do have a story, a story that appeals to humans, it's always possible to get an AI to help you with refining, with adapting it.
41:34But it's almost impossible for an AI right now to come up with such a story.
41:38Yeah, AI still can't put the emphasis on emotion and intuition.
41:47This is something that us humans still have in opposed to AI.
41:54So, as long as we keep that ability, we will be good.
42:01I see.
42:02Ehud, it was a pleasure having you as guest here on StartupRate.io.
42:06So, thank you very much.
42:09It was my pleasure.
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