Epstein's Ex-Girlfriend Stacey Williams Claims Trump & Epstein Were 'Best Friends'

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On Friday, Stacey Williams, an ex-girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein, spoke to CNN.

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00:00Stacey, thank you so much for joining us tonight.

00:03As you know, Epstein is dominating the news once again, and his relationship with Trump is under

00:08scrutiny. While you were dating Epstein, can you tell us how close these two men were?

00:15They were best friends. You know, I dated Jeffrey for a period of more or less, I think about four

00:22or five months. And the only friend that he would mention every time we saw each other or had a phone

00:30conversation was Donald, and he would share a lot of anecdotes, plenty of anecdotes.

00:37And yeah, they were very close, and they were up to no good.

00:42And how did Epstein talk about Trump? Sort of what was the quality of those anecdotes and how he

00:48described him? Well, I, he, there was a time when he mentioned he had to check in on him because

00:58he was unwell and very upset about something that had happened. I remember because he was late to

01:08pick me up, and he was explaining why he was late. They were just, you know, it was such a long time

01:13ago, but it was just part of, that was his, that was his bro. That was his wingman. It was clearly,

01:18I'd hear about Gilan, and I'd hear about Jeffrey. And I met Gilan in his house. She would come wafting

01:23in and out, uh, the, the home in New York. So he was clearly just someone that he talked about all

01:31the time. And again, you know, I really, I met Jeffrey the second time when we started dating based

01:37on, um, the introduction, the reintroduction that happened at the Plaza Hotel at a Christmas party

01:45in 1992 that Donald Trump threw. And they were, they were very, very close.

01:50So let's talk about this incident, uh, alleged incident in 1993, where you say that Trump groped

01:57you in front of Epstein. Uh, I do want to note that CNN has spoken to three friends of yours who

02:02confirmed that you told them about this alleged incident over past decades. Can you tell me

02:08more about what happened that day and particularly how Trump and Epstein interacted? Yeah, before I

02:13get into the details of what happened, which, you know, obviously I told you guys, and I've shared

02:17with, uh, multiple outlets, the specifics of, of the assault that happened. I want to point out that

02:23I was polygraphed before I did all this by one of the most renowned examiners in the world.

02:31Uh, Michael Wolfe has hundreds of hours of interviews with Jeffrey Epstein, where Jeffrey

02:40confirmed to Michael what the two of them did to me long before I came out and told you all of this.

02:48So those are two critical data points that you need to have. And now I'll walk you through what

02:53happened. I was dating Jeffrey. He was always talking about Donald. It was his bestie and everything.

02:58And he was joking about how Donald thought I was hot and Donald thinks I'm this or whatever,

03:02you know, once, once to talk to you. And he was telling me this as we were taking a walk down Fifth

03:07Avenue one day. And he said, let's stop in and see him at his offices. So we went up to his office in

03:14Trump tower and within a couple of minutes, Jeffrey or Donald was outside of his door and his hands

03:24were all over me. They were on my breasts. They were on my butt. They were on, you know, my hips

03:28up and down while the two of them just kept having a normal conversation. I don't remember exactly what

03:36that was in the conversation. Again, this was, you know, we're talking 90, this is 93. Now it was

03:40something about, it was irrelevant. It was like, oh, Stacey's career is on fire. She just did Sports

03:46Illustrated again, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they were back and forth smiling and

03:51grinning and carrying on a conversation while Donald ran his hands all over me. And, you know,

04:00when that happens in broad daylight in someone's office and an assistant's walking back and forth,

04:04you're in shock. If it happens in a dark alleyway, right, you defend yourself. But when it's hidden

04:10in its brazenness like that, which is Donald Trump's forte, you know, you go into shock. So I froze

04:20and it was over very quickly. It was a few minutes. And then we got back in the elevator

04:27and, um, Jeffrey's energy had changed. He was, he was like seething. He was enraged. He wouldn't

04:35make eye contact with me. And then we got out on this, we got out on the street on fifth Avenue

04:39and he looked at me and he just started yelling at me saying, why did you let him do that? And he was

04:44so enraged. And then I, I remember thinking like, why did I, I felt like I was coming back into my body

04:49at that moment and I was confused. So that's, that's the story of, of the assault. And I do

04:58just want to note, Stacey, that Trump has denied these allegations, which you are, uh, well aware

05:03of. Um, and I know at times you've referenced, uh, videos, which we have not confirmed the existence

05:08of, but I know that you felt that this was coordinated later when you looked back on it.

05:13What was it that made you draw that conclusion? Well, I had, I was sort of known in the industry

05:22for being somewhat combative with, um, you know, photographers who would expose themselves or do

05:28inappropriate things, or even guys who would touch or harass on the streets. And, um, Jeffrey was aware

05:36of that. And I think he was excited. I think the gist in my mind, given what he knew and the way it

05:44played out was, Hey, I, you know, I'm going to deliver this person to you. Who's actually not going

05:49to let you get away with what you do. And I did cause I froze. Um, like I said, when it's hidden in

05:55its brazenness like that, you freeze. And, um, you know, he's a master of that. So, I mean,

06:01he talked about it, right? He talked about pussy grabbing on, on the Access Hollywood tape.

06:06And, and tonight, I, I, if you're aware, President Trump has filed this libel lawsuit

06:12against the Wall Street Journal over its reporting that there was this note bearing Trump's name,

06:18uh, as a signature, uh, in an outline of a naked woman that was included in a 50th birthday album

06:23for Epstein in 2003, a note that also depicted an imaginary conversation between the two men.

06:29And part of it reads, quote, uh, Donald saying, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey.

06:35Jeffrey, yes, we do. Come to think of it, Donald, enigmas never age. Have you noticed that?

06:40Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me that last, the last time I saw you.

06:44And then finally, Donald, a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday. And may every day

06:49be another wonderful secret. Trump called that letter fake. He said it was out of character for

06:54him because he never wrote a picture or drew a picture in his life. Wrote a picture, I think he

06:59said. It's not his kind of language. Um, based on your time with both men, does that sound out of

07:04character to you? What are you kidding me? I know what they were up to together. It happened to me.

07:10I was polygraphed. I have the post assault, uh, postcard with a love note. So I have the receipts.

07:18Where are Donald Trump's receipts? Where are they? I know what they're up together and I know

07:22what that means. It's very clear. It wasn't baking or fishing.

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