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Karen Pirie Season 1 Episode 3
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00:00:00Tell me the truth.
00:00:19Tell me the truth.
00:00:30Hello.
00:00:37Oh, good morning.
00:00:44Someone's keen?
00:00:46I tried to call first.
00:00:48It was a long shower.
00:00:50Er, what's going on?
00:00:53Tom Mackey has overdosed.
00:00:56What?
00:00:57Dead?
00:00:58No, but hospitalised.
00:01:02There was a break in too.
00:01:03At the same time?
00:01:04Yeah.
00:01:05I'm going over there now to Glasgow.
00:01:08Right.
00:01:09Well, I'm coming with you.
00:01:10Just...
00:01:11Maybe put some clothes on.
00:01:13You don't want to go like that?
00:01:18I don't know.
00:01:21I don't know them technically we arrived.
00:01:23You disturbed them?
00:01:24I saw the shape of someone through the front window, but once we got in they were gone.
00:01:29Some footprints in the grass.
00:01:30I mean the soil at the back.
00:01:31Residential street back there?
00:01:32We had a look for cameras, couldn't see anybody.
00:01:35We'll do another scan.
00:01:37We should have arrested him yesterday.
00:01:39This wouldn't have happened.
00:01:41We didn't have enough.
00:01:43Do you think we pushed him to this?
00:01:45It might not have been intentional.
00:01:46Or even self-inflicted.
00:01:47What do you mean?
00:01:48Well, it's quite a coincidence, isn't it?
00:01:49An overdose and a break in at the same time.
00:01:50With someone trying to kill him and make it look like a suicide.
00:01:54Is that his mobile?
00:01:55Yep.
00:01:56Last calls went to the police.
00:01:57His ex-wife, Eleanor.
00:01:58And another name.
00:01:59I don't know.
00:02:00I don't know.
00:02:01I don't know.
00:02:02I don't know.
00:02:03I don't know.
00:02:04I don't know.
00:02:05I don't know.
00:02:06I don't know.
00:02:07I don't know.
00:02:08I don't know.
00:02:09I don't know.
00:02:10I don't know.
00:02:11I don't know.
00:02:12I don't know.
00:02:13I don't know.
00:02:14I don't know.
00:02:15I don't know.
00:02:16And another name, Alex Gilby.
00:02:22Tell them as soon as Mr. Mackey wakes up, we want to speak to him.
00:02:28Have you heard from Tom?
00:02:32No.
00:02:33I thought you'd at least send a text.
00:02:36You nearly died!
00:02:37Weird.
00:02:39I'm done with this.
00:02:40I love this.
00:02:41You made a pact, a promise.
00:02:43Don't break that now.
00:02:44What's in it from me, eh?
00:02:46You two boys are the ones with all the secrets.
00:02:49Except the drugs and the car.
00:02:52Well, they know about that now, so...
00:02:54But we still need to protect Alex.
00:02:56Alex, right.
00:02:59It's all about Alex.
00:03:01Everyone loves Alex.
00:03:03That's always been the problem, hasn't it?
00:03:08You know he's never gonna love you back, right?
00:03:11You think I'm stupid that I didn't see what was going on?
00:03:15The only reason you invited Rosie to that party
00:03:19was because you wanted to impress him.
00:03:22What did you think would happen?
00:03:24That he would suddenly realise you were the one all along?
00:03:28I know, Ziggy.
00:03:31Of course I know.
00:03:37I was waiting for you to tell me, but...
00:03:39Oh, come on, Ziggy, don't leave.
00:03:41Ziggy.
00:03:42I'm gonna go.
00:03:47What'd you do that for?
00:03:48You're stringing him along.
00:03:50It's cruel.
00:03:51We're friends, weird.
00:03:52And actually you're the one that's always baiting him.
00:03:54Teasing him.
00:03:56Then why haven't you told him about you and Lin?
00:04:00You've spent the whole summer talking to her.
00:04:03What, you don't want to break his heart?
00:04:05There's nothing going on with me and Lin.
00:04:06Do you think I'm slow?
00:04:07Nothing happened.
00:04:08Stop lying to me, Alex.
00:04:11Keeping it secret.
00:04:12Just like you kept you and Rosie secret.
00:04:14Stop it, weird.
00:04:15And everybody loves Alex.
00:04:17It's all about Alex.
00:04:19And look how that ends up.
00:04:20Shut up!
00:04:22OK!
00:04:23Mint!
00:04:24Sorry, I just heard back from the lab.
00:04:26Carpet fibres in the cardigan.
00:04:27No.
00:04:28Like, yeah, yes.
00:04:29I mean, yes.
00:04:30But no, there's something else.
00:04:31What?
00:04:32They found semen on the cuff of the cardigan.
00:04:37What?
00:04:38Whose?
00:04:39Did they cross-check it with?
00:04:40It's Alex Gilby's.
00:04:42Alex Gilby's semen is on the cardigan.
00:04:45Jesus Christ.
00:04:47OK, we're coming back now.
00:04:49I heard.
00:04:50Oh, my God.
00:04:51It was Alex.
00:04:52She went to see the party.
00:04:55And we have proof.
00:04:56Alex Gilby, I am arresting you under Section 1 of the Criminal Justice Scotland Act 2016 for the murder of Rosie Duff.
00:05:20What?
00:05:21You're not obliged to say anything, but anything you do say will be noted and may be used in evidence.
00:05:25I can't leave.
00:05:26Do you understand?
00:05:27I've just had a baby.
00:05:28Alex?
00:05:29Please.
00:05:30Look, I'll cooperate in any way you need, but not this.
00:05:32Alex.
00:05:33Please.
00:05:34Let them put the handcuffs on you.
00:05:35We'll make sure your wife is OK.
00:05:36What are you doing?
00:05:37I'm sorry.
00:05:38It'll be OK.
00:05:39This way, Alex.
00:05:40You can't take him.
00:05:41Please.
00:05:42Alex.
00:05:43I'll be back.
00:05:55I'll be back.
00:05:59Dig us up and hold us high
00:06:13Raise our compass to the sky
00:06:18Wrap us up in sequence camp
00:06:23And we can dance again inside
00:06:29Just take my hand and be brave
00:06:34We'll say goodbye to this grave
00:06:36The night we saw, so we rave
00:06:39We are upcycled and safe
00:06:41We've got the ace, so we're full
00:06:44Surrender all self-control
00:06:46Quick now before the metal
00:06:48We'll sing the sighs from our souls
00:06:59What did you do last night, Alex?
00:07:06Last night
00:07:06You brought Mr. Gilbey in under charges relating to 1996
00:07:10Why do you need to know about last night?
00:07:12You don't need to answer
00:07:13I was at home
00:07:14Did you leave the house at all?
00:07:16No
00:07:16Make any phone calls?
00:07:18You took my phone so you'd have to check
00:07:19You spoke to Tom Mackey
00:07:21He's my friend
00:07:24What did you speak about?
00:07:25What has that got to do with anything?
00:07:27Did you go over there and see Tom
00:07:28After your conversation last night, Alex?
00:07:30No
00:07:31Why?
00:07:38What's happened?
00:07:39Your friend has been admitted to hospital
00:07:46He's in a medically induced coma
00:07:49After mixing several anti-anxiety medications
00:07:52Sleeping pills
00:07:53And alcohol
00:07:54You need to tell my wife, Lynn
00:07:57You need to tell her
00:07:58He's her brother
00:08:00Your wife's been informed
00:08:01Is he okay?
00:08:07Is he going to be okay?
00:08:09We don't know yet
00:08:11Did you threaten Tom Mackey, Alex?
00:08:17What?
00:08:17Did you threaten him?
00:08:19Did you go over there and tell him not to talk to us?
00:08:21No
00:08:22You were worried to tell us about your relationship with Rosie
00:08:24No
00:08:27We didn't have a relationship
00:08:31Hmm
00:08:36Do you recognize that cardigan, Alex?
00:08:50It was Rosie's
00:08:51She was wearing it the night she died
00:08:54But you knew that, didn't you?
00:08:55Because you were with her
00:08:56There was so much of Rosie's blood on the cardigan
00:09:06That the amount of female DNA present
00:09:08Massed
00:09:09A small amount of male DNA on the cuff
00:09:12They missed that in 1996
00:09:14But we didn't
00:09:15The DNA is from Seaman, Alex
00:09:20And it's a match for you
00:09:23I didn't kill her
00:09:39I didn't do anything to her
00:09:42I would never hurt her
00:09:45I couldn't have
00:09:46Tell us what really happened, Alex
00:09:49That's all we want
00:09:50You don't have to say anything
00:09:52If you didn't kill her, Alex
00:09:53You must really want to know I did
00:09:55Of course I do
00:09:56With this new evidence
00:09:57The best thing you can do
00:09:59Is explain
00:09:59If you say nothing
00:10:01It will just look worse for you
00:10:03I was seeing her
00:10:15I was in love with her
00:10:18She didn't want anyone to know
00:10:20It was a secretive thing
00:10:22We used to write notes to each other
00:10:25Meet after a shift
00:10:27But in public
00:10:29She'd ignore me
00:10:34Did that make you angry?
00:10:40No
00:10:40No
00:10:45It made me sad
00:10:49Like
00:10:51Like I wasn't good enough
00:10:54It's taking a
00:10:57Where is he?
00:11:01He's a good guy
00:11:02I know he is
00:11:03Why do you think of him?
00:11:05What's going on?
00:11:07Just tell him one way or another
00:11:08Oh yeah
00:11:09Well he's protective
00:11:17Don't worry
00:11:19Don't
00:11:19Don't listen to him
00:11:21I can't stay long
00:11:24Why did you come down then?
00:11:27To do that
00:11:28Come inside
00:11:29I can
00:11:30No not yet
00:11:30Not yet
00:11:31I haven't got an idea
00:11:33I know I haven't been straight forward
00:11:51It's not because I changed my mind
00:11:57I've never changed my mind about you
00:11:59So what is it?
00:12:02Is there someone else?
00:12:04No
00:12:05I feel like maybe I just have to get out of here
00:12:13I don't want to because you're here
00:12:15But I just feel so stuck
00:12:17And the pub
00:12:19And it's a town
00:12:20And my family
00:12:21And don't go anywhere
00:12:22I've been to other places though
00:12:25Shut
00:12:26Wait are we
00:12:31Are we on again?
00:12:35Or off?
00:12:37This feels like we're off
00:12:38I don't know
00:12:40I've got to go
00:12:45What kind of answer is that?
00:12:47What do you really need one?
00:12:52I'm starting to think you're ashamed of me
00:12:54No it's not that
00:12:55You don't want anyone to know about us
00:12:57Won't be seen with me
00:12:58Say it's about your brothers
00:12:59Your family won't approve
00:13:01It's not that
00:13:01Why won't they approve of me?
00:13:02It's not about you
00:13:03It's about me
00:13:04Are you sure?
00:13:04Because it feels kind of racist
00:13:08You know
00:13:08What?
00:13:10But prove to me that it's not
00:13:11Take me home right now
00:13:13You don't know them
00:13:14At all
00:13:14What else am I supposed to think?
00:13:16You're supposed to listen to me
00:13:17And trust me when I say it's not that
00:13:19Give me one good reason to trust you
00:13:20When you always disappear
00:13:21Oh screw you
00:13:22I
00:13:22See there you go again
00:13:24Screw you
00:13:26That was the last time I saw her
00:13:35And then she walked off into town at 2am
00:13:41Did you follow her?
00:13:46No
00:13:46I wish I did
00:13:49I wish I begged her to stay
00:13:53I wish I held on to her
00:13:56Why didn't you tell the police any of this?
00:13:59Because we made a decision
00:14:00Well
00:14:00Ziggy made a decision
00:14:03He knew about Rosie and me
00:14:05He knew how bad it looked
00:14:06He told you to lie
00:14:07He saw how the police treated me
00:14:10He saw the way they grabbed hold of me
00:14:13When they arrested us
00:14:14Get off
00:14:15They were scared for me
00:14:18Scared they'd pin it on me
00:14:21Because of your race
00:14:23That fear
00:14:27Isn't exactly unfounded
00:14:30Sartre
00:14:31Once I lied
00:14:35I couldn't change my story
00:14:36It would make me look bad
00:14:38The choice I made
00:14:41When I was 21 and drunk
00:14:43Looks effective for the rest of my life
00:14:49I'm going to be speaking with a senior officer
00:14:58And seeking authority to extend your detention period
00:15:01To the maximum 24 hours
00:15:02No
00:15:03You're the last person to see it alive
00:15:07Alex
00:15:08I cannot let you go yet
00:15:09How'd it go?
00:15:20Well
00:15:20I can't admit that he had a relationship with Rosie
00:15:23Wow
00:15:25But
00:15:28He said that she left him at 2am
00:15:30He didn't see her after that
00:15:32Right
00:15:32I've spoken to forensics
00:15:35They've looked at the carpet fibres on a cardigan
00:15:37But they still need a card to cross-check them with
00:15:39They told me to check the international car carpet database
00:15:42But there obviously isn't one
00:15:45Yeah
00:15:46I know that now
00:15:47Right
00:15:50Okay
00:15:50Well so
00:15:51We still need
00:15:53I'm making a model
00:15:54Before we can see if they match
00:15:55Yeah
00:15:55There is a second car
00:15:57That we don't have
00:15:58A second crime scene
00:15:59That we don't know about
00:16:00And we have
00:16:0121
00:16:02Ish
00:16:03Hours
00:16:03To try and build a case against Alex Gilby
00:16:05If there even is one
00:16:07And your girlfriend's here
00:16:09Girlfriend
00:16:10Champagne
00:16:17I think
00:16:17What?
00:16:19The drink you're going to buy me
00:16:20Steady on
00:16:21It's the least you can do
00:16:22I've got an eyewitness
00:16:24Already?
00:16:26Hmm?
00:16:27The power of podcasts
00:16:28Are they credible?
00:16:30I think so
00:16:31Send me the details
00:16:32And what do we get in return?
00:16:34You can have a Prosecco
00:16:35I'm serious Karen
00:16:36Let me in
00:16:37Heard you made an arrest
00:16:39How do you know that?
00:16:42I'm good at my job
00:16:43Name for a name
00:16:45You know I can't do that
00:16:48You've got to give me something Karen
00:16:49How about
00:16:55Thank you
00:17:00I'm going to cry?
00:17:05Oh just text me and he would piss off
00:17:07Shush
00:17:10I was a taxi driver
00:17:25For 33 years
00:17:27Not good for the bark that
00:17:28If his design hadn't made me stop
00:17:30I'd still be out there
00:17:32Humped over the steering wheel
00:17:33The hunchback of Glen Rothes
00:17:35And you were driving the cab
00:17:38On the morning in question
00:17:3927th of June 1996
00:17:41I was about 2.15 in the morning
00:17:44Japanese golf tourist
00:17:46They were staying in the B&B in Prentice Road
00:17:48Right
00:17:49And I was waiting for them
00:17:50Outside
00:17:51And I seen this girl
00:17:53On her own
00:17:53Which I thought was strange
00:17:54Who's letting her walk home
00:17:56On her own at that time?
00:17:58And how clearly did you see her?
00:17:59Well she was only a couple of meters away
00:18:01Even nodded hello
00:18:02Right
00:18:04And then
00:18:04She passes me
00:18:06And then it starts to rain
00:18:07The heavens just open
00:18:09So she pulls up her hood
00:18:10And then a car pulls up beside her
00:18:12What sort of car?
00:18:14It was a BMW
00:18:15Three series I think
00:18:17Older body shape
00:18:18And it was grey
00:18:21Could have been black
00:18:23That specific?
00:18:26Pretty sure it was a 325i
00:18:28What can I say?
00:18:30I like cars
00:18:31Why didn't you go to the police for this?
00:18:36I did
00:18:36You did?
00:18:38It took me a while to realise
00:18:40It was her
00:18:40I didn't follow the case much
00:18:43To begin with
00:18:44I was working nights
00:18:46Slept all day
00:18:47World passed me by
00:18:49So what changed?
00:18:51I saw a picture of her somewhere
00:18:52And then I told my wife
00:18:54And she realised that your account
00:18:56Might be relevant?
00:18:57Uh-huh
00:18:57Right
00:18:58So the car stops alongside her
00:19:00She takes one look at the driver
00:19:02She keeps on walking
00:19:03So he starts kerb crawling
00:19:06And he's talking to her
00:19:07Pestering?
00:19:09I wondered
00:19:09But then she stops
00:19:12And they talk for a little while
00:19:14And does she get in the car?
00:19:16After a while she did
00:19:17And they drove away?
00:19:18Uh-huh
00:19:19So did you see the driver?
00:19:21Briefly
00:19:22Age?
00:19:24Uh, not sure
00:19:24It is
00:19:25Quite
00:19:27Are you certain?
00:19:30Aye
00:19:30Was there anyone else in the car?
00:19:35No
00:19:35Do you remember who you spoke to at the police?
00:19:38I called the station
00:19:39Spoke to a receptionist
00:19:41And she put me on to an older guy
00:19:42D.I. Barney McLennan
00:19:44Could have been
00:19:45And you told him everything you've told me?
00:19:48Uh-huh
00:19:48And the police never got back to you?
00:19:50Figured it wasn't relevant
00:19:51So why did you call the podcast?
00:19:58Oh, that wasn't me
00:19:58That was my daughter
00:19:59She's a listener
00:20:01Is it any good?
00:20:02Hmm
00:20:03Still making my mind
00:20:04If you bet that one
00:20:05You got a minute, sir?
00:20:17Huh?
00:20:18Take a seat
00:20:18Where is that, sir?
00:20:24Oh
00:20:25Look, leaving
00:20:26I get away there fishing
00:20:28You're giving yourself breaks on this
00:20:30Aren't you, Karen?
00:20:32Taking your weekends
00:20:32Yes, sir, when I can
00:20:34Because it's hard going
00:20:34In cases like this
00:20:35You can lose yourself in them
00:20:37And this one in particular
00:20:38Do I look tired, sir?
00:20:41No, no
00:20:42No, it's just a
00:20:43I know you're committed
00:20:44And I know what that takes
00:20:46I'm the same
00:20:47We'll have good news
00:20:50We found an eyewitness
00:20:52From the night of the murder
00:20:53Really?
00:20:55He spoke to MacLennan back in 96
00:20:57But they'd never followed up
00:20:59You found him?
00:21:01Janice and I searched everything
00:21:03Thought Barney'd taken it to the grave
00:21:05And then we put a call out for him
00:21:07Posters
00:21:08Flyers
00:21:09We went door to door
00:21:10No one came forward
00:21:11How did you find him?
00:21:13We did an appeal on the podcast
00:21:15I thought that thing would be nothing but nuisance
00:21:17Well, the problem is
00:21:19He saw a white man in a BMW
00:21:22And we've got Alex Gilby in custody
00:21:25Who obviously doesn't match that description
00:21:26Could have been Tom Mackey
00:21:28He was still in the Audi
00:21:29Until it ran out of petrol
00:21:31Could have stolen another motor
00:21:33To get back to the party
00:21:34Any news on Tom Mackey?
00:21:44He's stable but still not conscious
00:21:45Okay
00:21:46I need you
00:21:47To ask the lab
00:21:50To cross-check the fibres found in Rosie's cardigan
00:21:52With those you would find
00:21:54On an 80s or 90s BMW 325i
00:21:57Also, can you get together a list
00:22:00Of everyone that owned a BMW 325i
00:22:03In Fife
00:22:04In 1996
00:22:05How would I do that?
00:22:07Call the de Gailly
00:22:08They'll have records
00:22:09Is that your dinner?
00:22:11Just to keep the protein up
00:22:12I boil as well that time so
00:22:14Right, okay
00:22:18New office rule
00:22:19One egg a day
00:22:20Oh, and check reports
00:22:25Of stolen vehicles
00:22:26From the summer of 1996
00:22:28Yes, sorry
00:22:29It's not finished
00:22:34That's what I get
00:22:34We have 12 hours
00:22:37No stolen BMWs that I could find
00:22:58Dad
00:23:02Oh
00:23:10No
00:23:11No
00:23:15No
00:23:15Let's go.
00:23:45The paint on her cardigan, was it ever analysed?
00:23:58Nope.
00:23:59Why not?
00:24:00Archie Duff was a painter and decorator.
00:24:03Rosie used to help her from time to time, so...
00:24:05They thought it was an odd stain?
00:24:06Yeah.
00:24:08It wasn't.
00:24:10Hmm?
00:24:12It's not there, in the photo of her and Ziggy.
00:24:15Are you sure?
00:24:17It's not there.
00:24:19So, it happened after the party?
00:24:22Before she was found.
00:24:26The second crime scene.
00:24:33Where did she go?
00:24:34Karen.
00:24:53Karen!
00:24:54What's home is it?
00:24:55I don't want to be your queen of wellness, again, but you're still wearing your shoes.
00:25:06David Soans.
00:25:07David Soans.
00:25:08I love David Soans.
00:25:10Is that the paint guy, right?
00:25:11Uh, he is the preeminent forensic specialist in paint, Karen.
00:25:17You know him?
00:25:18Is that Dundee?
00:25:19I know him.
00:25:20And I want him to be my grandpa, yes.
00:25:21I will go through all the proper challenges as well, but I need his opinion on a paint sample, fast.
00:25:28How fast?
00:25:30Thought I was fast.
00:25:32Like it to me when you get in.
00:25:33You are surprisingly useful.
00:25:40Brush your hair, you look mad.
00:25:43Evidentially, what do we have?
00:25:44We have the photograph, proving that she was at the party.
00:25:47We have the semen stains on her cardigan, proving Alex Gilby had sexual relations with her.
00:25:51And we have the diary, and Iona's testimony, showing that she was having a relationship in secret.
00:25:58And what don't we have?
00:25:59We don't have a second crime scene, a murder weapon, or the car that allegedly picked her up.
00:26:04The fibres from her cardigan, they don't match the Audi, but they do match the carpet from a BMW.
00:26:09No stolen BMWs reported in the area, though.
00:26:12The DVLA have come through with a list of 35 similar cars in Fife at the time.
00:26:17Murray's going to talk to the owners, but that may take a while.
00:26:19Tom Mackey still comatose?
00:26:20Unfortunately, yes.
00:26:23Well, where are we, Mary?
00:26:26Can we charge?
00:26:28Hey, OK.
00:26:29I've got two minutes.
00:26:31I spoke to David.
00:26:32He can have a full analysis done for you by tomorrow.
00:26:35Damn it!
00:26:36But he did have a quick look under the microscope this morning.
00:26:39At first glance, he thinks it's a fibreglass paint.
00:26:42The kind of thing used on boats.
00:26:44Really hard-wearing and waterproof.
00:26:46Boats?
00:26:47All right.
00:26:48Thanks, I've got to go.
00:26:49Mr. Gilby, you said the last time you saw Rosie Duff was her walking away from you outside the party on Scooney Hill Lane.
00:27:02Do you know where she went after that?
00:27:04No.
00:27:06She said she was going back to the pub.
00:27:07She was wearing this cardigan.
00:27:13Yeah.
00:27:13We've been through this.
00:27:15Later.
00:27:18That same part of the top had a streak of paint on it.
00:27:22Do you know where she could have come into contact with wet paint?
00:27:25No.
00:27:26You're an artist?
00:27:28Graphic designer.
00:27:29I use computers.
00:27:30You're studying art?
00:27:31History of art.
00:27:32Which is mainly essays.
00:27:35Did Rosie come back to the house?
00:27:37No, she never came to the house.
00:27:42We've had analysis done on the paint.
00:27:44And we think it might be fibreglass primer.
00:27:46The kind used on hulls of boats.
00:27:48So you knew I didn't use it for portrait painting.
00:27:52This is a joke.
00:27:53Is there a place that you two went together?
00:27:55A boathouse?
00:27:56A boat in the harbour?
00:27:57Nowhere like that.
00:27:59Did she ever mention a boat?
00:28:01Did anyone she know have one?
00:28:02No, never.
00:28:04This is a mess.
00:28:09Please.
00:28:10Let me go.
00:28:11The Audi.
00:28:13It was Tom Mackey's idea to steal it.
00:28:15Had he stolen cars before?
00:28:17I heard stories that he and Ziggy did it for fun back in Kokodi.
00:28:22But they always put it back.
00:28:24Did Tom steal any other cars that night?
00:28:25Not that I know of.
00:28:27But he didn't mention it to me.
00:28:29Did you know anyone that drove a BMW?
00:28:31Specifically a 325i?
00:28:36You know I didn't do it.
00:28:38Don't you?
00:28:38Does that jog any memories?
00:28:39You've got something, but you can't connect it to me.
00:28:43We're still investigating all possibilities.
00:28:45It's not me.
00:28:45It's never been me.
00:28:46And all of this has just been a waste of time.
00:28:48You've wasted our time, Alex.
00:28:5025 years of time by lying.
00:28:54And I still don't understand why for so long.
00:28:57Why?
00:28:58Because I didn't do it.
00:29:00Because I wasn't there when she was killed.
00:29:03And I knew nothing about what happened.
00:29:05So what do you want me to say to help?
00:29:07I would have been charged for murder years ago if I'd been honest about Rosie and me.
00:29:13I knew it.
00:29:15Ziggy knew it.
00:29:16Even Weird knew it that in that scenario, being a black man in a very white country would do me no favours.
00:29:24So I protected myself.
00:29:27And they protected me too.
00:29:33Even when we weren't as close.
00:29:38Even when they were under such great pressure, they continued to protect me.
00:29:43Even if things are different now, we stick by each other.
00:29:49Yeah?
00:29:51We keep our promises.
00:29:55And we hold the course.
00:29:56We were young.
00:30:06We were drunk.
00:30:08We made a panicked decision.
00:30:11But who's to say that even if we told the truth?
00:30:15That it would make things better.
00:30:18We might be...
00:30:19...saving life.
00:30:21...for a murder we didn't commit.
00:30:29What justice...
00:30:31...would that have been?
00:30:40Thank you for your cooperation, Mr. Kilby.
00:30:44Hope this new iteration of your story is the final truthful one.
00:30:49It is.
00:30:50We're going to release you.
00:30:55You can go home to your wife and to your baby.
00:31:23We still have options.
00:31:50It wasn't them.
00:31:54There's someone else.
00:31:56There's always been someone else.
00:32:03For a moment yesterday,
00:32:06I really thought we had him.
00:32:09I imagined the moment.
00:32:12Being able to tell our brothers.
00:32:16Our daughter.
00:32:19She was meant to come in for a DNA test today, weren't she?
00:32:29Have you got a number I can get her on?
00:32:32She didn't show.
00:33:02My father's.
00:33:16My father's.
00:33:32Shae.
00:33:34Sorry.
00:33:35I did knock.
00:33:37I just, um, I thought you might be here somewhere.
00:33:40You need to store these securely.
00:33:42Yeah, I was just locking it up.
00:33:46Do you want to come in?
00:33:55Yeah.
00:33:57So you made an arrest?
00:34:00Twitter, Bellvert, and...
00:34:03So you've been listening?
00:34:09It's become hard to ignore.
00:34:12You weren't going to tell me then.
00:34:15That's why I'm here, actually.
00:34:16Surely I should know before Twitter does.
00:34:25Yeah.
00:34:26You should.
00:34:29Sorry.
00:34:30Who is it?
00:34:32Who have you arrested?
00:34:34Is it one of the students?
00:34:35And I don't want to keep anything from you, Grace.
00:34:42We arrested a man called Alex Gilby.
00:34:45And after questioning him for the last two days, we've decided to release him without charge.
00:34:51You let him go.
00:34:53I'm sorry I can't bring you more hopeful news.
00:34:54You must have had a good reason to arrest him.
00:34:56We did.
00:34:57So what happened?
00:34:58Sorry, I can't discuss the details with you.
00:35:00Not yet.
00:35:03Right.
00:35:07Did you, um...
00:35:08change your mind about the DNA test?
00:35:12My DC said you missed an appointment.
00:35:14We can send someone up here if you want.
00:35:16My...
00:35:21father.
00:35:24My adoptive father.
00:35:27He doesn't know...
00:35:29about any of this.
00:35:31That I trace my mother.
00:35:34He's in a rest home.
00:35:35He's not well.
00:35:36I just...
00:35:39It doesn't feel right.
00:35:42Finding out who my real dad is without telling him first.
00:35:45Yeah.
00:35:47I get that.
00:35:49Take all the time you need.
00:35:52Look, Grace.
00:35:54I just want to say...
00:35:56this could really help us.
00:35:59It's an avenue we've never been able to explore until now.
00:36:04Feels like the wrong thing to focus on to me.
00:36:06Okay.
00:36:14Think about it.
00:36:15Eh?
00:36:16Oh, yeah.
00:36:21Is that all?
00:36:26Yeah.
00:36:31Thanks.
00:36:36That's great.
00:36:42Cheers.
00:36:42Bye-bye now.
00:36:43How many BMW owners have you spoken to now?
00:36:50Eighteen.
00:36:51Well, actually, twenty, but two of them were dead.
00:36:54Anything of interest?
00:36:55From the living ones?
00:36:56Not one of them remembered their car going missing during that period.
00:36:59No one noticed anything suspicious.
00:37:01Most of them weren't in St Andrews.
00:37:03Perfect.
00:37:03How did it go with the daughter?
00:37:07She's changed her mind.
00:37:09About chasing her father.
00:37:11Really?
00:37:12You think she'd want to help with the investigation?
00:37:14Yeah.
00:37:14So good to have you home.
00:37:29So good to have you home.
00:37:31Right, thanks.
00:37:48Well, this is so different from the old St Andrews police station.
00:37:51It's not cosy, is it?
00:37:54Yeah.
00:37:54It's less claustrophobic.
00:37:56Everyone was always on top of each other down at that old place.
00:38:00Thank you for coming.
00:38:02Please.
00:38:04I just want to talk about the original investigation.
00:38:09How it was run on the inside.
00:38:11MacLennan?
00:38:13Aye, he was a great man.
00:38:14Karen.
00:38:15Everyone loved him.
00:38:16I adored him.
00:38:17Do you think he was a good detective?
00:38:22It was all I knew.
00:38:23Don't have much to compare it to.
00:38:28There was an eyewitness that contacted him.
00:38:31Yes.
00:38:31Can you just tell me how that happened when you first heard of it?
00:38:36So he mentioned it to me that last day.
00:38:40The day he died.
00:38:43We were all in the pub that night and he asked me if I was working next morning as he died.
00:38:46And he said he wanted me to come with something to interview a witness.
00:38:50And he didn't write anything about it down?
00:38:54No.
00:38:55And he never told anyone about it except me.
00:38:59Why do you think he did that?
00:39:00Oh, I don't know.
00:39:03He was old school.
00:39:05Didn't love paperwork.
00:39:06And then you and Lawson tried to track him down and couldn't?
00:39:10Well, Jimmy was trying to when I was moved off the case.
00:39:13I tried to check in afterwards and see how it was going, but it was a bit cagey.
00:39:18Understandably, I suppose.
00:39:20Because of me and Colin.
00:39:26Is that why you were taking off the investigation?
00:39:31I wonder if Barney had been alive.
00:39:34He might have let it slide, but...
00:39:36Lawson took over and didn't approve.
00:39:38I think he had some personal issues with us.
00:39:44What do you mean?
00:39:46Jimmy had an eye for me, I suppose.
00:39:50And I didn't want to bring that up at work, so I went to go see him.
00:39:54At his house?
00:39:54Oh, well, you couldn't really call it a house.
00:39:58He'd bought this wreck.
00:40:00Jimmy was so desperate to move up in the world.
00:40:03He'd got this big old ruin for next to nothing.
00:40:05He was doing it up himself.
00:40:06So he was living in this tin can caravan in the garden.
00:40:11Janice?
00:40:12Sorry to come so late.
00:40:13I just...
00:40:14Nae balla.
00:40:16I just wanted to...
00:40:19Colin and I...
00:40:22We're old friends.
00:40:24I just wanted to make sure you knew that...
00:40:26Come on, you're more than that.
00:40:29No.
00:40:30Don't have to lie to me, Jan.
00:40:32You're seeing each other, right?
00:40:34No, really.
00:40:38It won't get in the way of work.
00:40:40I've known him for a long time.
00:40:42Of course, you...
00:40:43You go ahead, but...
00:40:46I'm taking you off the gates.
00:40:51No.
00:40:53No, I don't do that.
00:40:54I'm sorry, I've just done it.
00:40:55No, Jimmy, come on.
00:40:57I found her.
00:40:59I was the one that found her.
00:41:01And now...
00:41:02You're sleeping with her brother.
00:41:06That was your decision.
00:41:07You had other options.
00:41:10Jimmy, I'm sorry if I...
00:41:13You and me, I didn't...
00:41:15I don't...
00:41:16It's all right, you can see it.
00:41:18You don't like me like that.
00:41:20Don't take me off the case, Jimmy.
00:41:23I was making a difference to that case.
00:41:27And I blew it.
00:41:29Rosie had me and Barney on her side.
00:41:33And then she lost the both of us.
00:41:35At the same time.
00:41:37You don't think Lawson was as effective?
00:41:38He got another murder case through soon after.
00:41:42Solved it really quickly.
00:41:44Impressively.
00:41:45And then he really started moving up through the ranks.
00:41:48And the Dove case just became less of a priority?
00:41:51Once the press interest had waned.
00:41:55And you left the force soon after?
00:41:58Why?
00:42:00I never knew how good I was, Karen.
00:42:02I don't think anyone would have thought to tell me.
00:42:05I think I'm only starting to realise that now.
00:42:08I didn't let that happen to you now.
00:42:12Do you hear me?
00:42:17Keep going, Karen.
00:42:20Colin and Brian don't trust the police, but...
00:42:24That's not your fault.
00:42:26It was ours.
00:42:27I don't know what you would like.
00:42:57No!
00:42:58No!
00:42:58No!
00:42:59Let's go.
00:43:29Hi there. Hi, I'm sorry to call so late. I'm DC Murray.
00:43:34Am I right in seeing news to own a BMW 325i?
00:43:39That's a lot of car, yeah?
00:43:41A German engineering's fantastic, yeah.
00:43:59I'm sorry.
00:44:29Are you all right?
00:44:32Hello?
00:44:33Don't move!
00:44:34Whoa, whoa!
00:44:35I said don't move!
00:44:42Just, just, just, just lower the gun.
00:44:44Stay there!
00:44:45All right, all right!
00:44:47Please...
00:44:49Please, whatever you want, just lower the gun.
00:44:51I want to know what happened to Rosie Dove.
00:44:59I don't know what happened to her.
00:45:02Why?
00:45:03I honestly don't.
00:45:05I wish I did.
00:45:06You killed her.
00:45:07No.
00:45:09Who are you?
00:45:13You killed my mother.
00:45:17She was your mother?
00:45:22I'm a...
00:45:24I'm so, so sorry but I didn't kill you.
00:45:26I said stay there!
00:45:27I'm not afraid of you!
00:45:30Tell me why you killed her.
00:45:37I left her.
00:45:39Tell me or I will shoot.
00:45:42I didn't, I didn't kill her.
00:45:44I knew her but, but I didn't kill her.
00:45:47You knew her?
00:45:51But, but I didn't kill her.
00:45:53I could tell you about her but I'm not like this, please.
00:45:56I'll never know about you.
00:45:57I'll never know about you.
00:46:10I'll never know about you.
00:46:11I'll never know about you.
00:46:12I'll never know about you.
00:46:17I'll never know about you.
00:46:19I'll never know about you.
00:46:29There was so much I didn't know.
00:46:31I'll never know about you.
00:46:32Bye.
00:46:37You really do look like her.
00:46:41Isaac!
00:46:55Isaac!
00:46:57Isaac!
00:47:27Isaac!
00:47:45We've got to remember that this was before the centralization of the SPS.
00:47:50St. Andrews Police was a small team.
00:47:53Perhaps they just weren't equipped for it.
00:47:56But the singularity of the case,
00:47:58and the shockwaves that it sent through the town,
00:48:00make it even stranger that interest seemed to fade so quickly.
00:48:05Why didn't it continue to be a priority?
00:48:08Why, once McLennan was dead,
00:48:10did Rosie seemingly get forgotten?
00:48:23You're walking like you're leaving a burning building.
00:48:25It was very sad.
00:48:35There's something not right at the heart of all this.
00:48:44Lawson said he did everything he could to find the eyewitness,
00:48:47yet we do one call out and we find him straight away.
00:48:51And then there's missing evidence in the warehouse.
00:48:53Why has no one picked up on that before?
00:48:55And Bell was right.
00:48:57The investigation should have been reviewed.
00:48:59If Lawson really cared about the case,
00:49:01if Lawson really cared about the case,
00:49:03why didn't he reopen it until now?
00:49:05Is he just a really bad cop in a really nice suit?
00:49:07Or...
00:49:09he's covering for someone.
00:49:13Well...
00:49:15Grandpa Paint came through.
00:49:24Marine Primer.
00:49:25He says you're lucky because that particular paint is actually quite rare.
00:49:28Chroma paints, anti-corrosive, instant waterproofing.
00:49:32That company folded in the noughties or something.
00:49:34It's found on fibreglass boathulls, barges, motorhomes and...
00:49:40Caravans.
00:49:42I'm DC Murray.
00:49:48I know, I know.
00:49:50I'm sorry. Did it get you out of bed?
00:49:52Did you have a husband or a boyfriend to board it?
00:49:54Did you used to own a BMW 325i?
00:50:00You did. Can you tell me more about that?
00:50:04Just because Lawson has a caravan...
00:50:06But it was there, right?
00:50:08In St Andrews.
00:50:09And you're looking for a second crime scene.
00:50:11Which you think might be a caravan.
00:50:13But how do I investigate it?
00:50:14I can't question him.
00:50:15He's my boss.
00:50:17He's my boss's boss.
00:50:20I'll have to find it.
00:50:23To see if the paint even matches.
00:50:25If you were a caravan, where would you keep it?
00:50:27In my driveway?
00:50:29I don't know.
00:50:30Where does he live?
00:50:32Some swanky townhouse in Edinburgh.
00:50:34Probably not caravan territory.
00:50:36Plus he might not have it anymore.
00:50:42Maybe you just need to sleep on it.
00:50:45You have to look after yourself.
00:50:48That's what he said to me today.
00:50:50Lough Leven.
00:50:51He fishes in Lough Leven.
00:50:52He has a place up there.
00:50:53There's loads of pictures of him on holiday there.
00:50:55That's where he'd have it, isn't it?
00:50:56If he still has it.
00:50:57Are you just gonna search the screen for something caravan shaped?
00:50:58Do you have a better idea?
00:50:59Do you have a better idea?
00:51:00mint?
00:51:01Sarge, I have a better idea.
00:51:02I don't know.
00:51:03I don't know.
00:51:04Mint.
00:51:05Sarge, I have a better idea.
00:51:06I don't know.
00:51:07I don't know.
00:51:08I don't know.
00:51:09I don't know.
00:51:10I don't know.
00:51:11Will you have a better idea?
00:51:12He fishes in Lough Leven.
00:51:13He has a place up there.
00:51:15There's loads of pictures of him on holiday there.
00:51:16That's where he'd have it, isn't it?
00:51:17If he still has it.
00:51:20Are you just gonna search the screen for something caravan shaped?
00:51:23Do you have a better idea?
00:51:28Mint!
00:51:29Sarge, I just had the weirdest thing.
00:51:32I couldn't get a hold of this old lady.
00:51:33Not now, Mint. I'm on to something.
00:51:36No, no, it's worth hearing. I think...
00:51:38I don't know, but...
00:51:39Right, well, go on then.
00:51:41I couldn't track her down, but it was because she'd been moved into a care home
00:51:44because she couldn't get up the stairs.
00:51:46Faster, Mint.
00:51:47Okay, okay. Yeah, erm...
00:51:48Well, she had one of these cars up until 96
00:51:51and she lived in St Andrews at the time
00:51:53and she was telling me that her son was a copper.
00:52:01Well, you'll never guess who her son is.
00:52:09James Lawson.
00:52:11How did you know that?
00:52:15I need you to pick me up early tomorrow morning, Mint.
00:52:17Early, early.
00:52:19Where are we going?
00:52:21Lock leaving.
00:52:31We can't do this.
00:52:32We're just going to go up there and have a look around.
00:52:34We're both going to lose our jobs.
00:52:35If we don't find anything, we drop it.
00:52:37I can't lose my job, Sarge.
00:52:38Just get in the car and hear me out.
00:52:40I'm not good at anything else.
00:52:46He's our chief super.
00:52:48He knew her.
00:52:50He was drinking in that pub.
00:52:51He was there that night.
00:52:52So was half the town.
00:52:53The paint on her hood.
00:52:54It's used on caravans.
00:52:55He was living in a caravan.
00:52:56But he probably no longer has.
00:52:57The carman.
00:52:58He lied about the eyewitness.
00:52:59We don't have enough proof.
00:53:00Yet.
00:53:01Not enough yet.
00:53:02Look.
00:53:03If you're not going to drive us,
00:53:04then give me the keys, Jason.
00:53:05Thanks, Jason.
00:53:26Alex?
00:53:27Thanks.
00:53:33Hiya.
00:53:34You're pre-standing.
00:53:35Please leave the message.
00:53:57The Esper Hacker.
00:53:58Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:53:59Slow down.
00:54:00Okay.
00:54:01Right.
00:54:02Wait.
00:54:03Is the car there?
00:54:04No.
00:54:05Right.
00:54:06What's the play?
00:54:07Sierra Lima 1-7.
00:54:08Juliet Foxtrot Vector.
00:54:09A Silver Land Rover Discovery.
00:54:10A Silver Land Rover Discovery.
00:54:41See?
00:54:42Vickers driver.
00:54:43Sergeant Unfit.
00:54:46Hi!
00:54:47Hi!
00:54:48Police!
00:54:53We need your help!
00:54:54He's not going to help us.
00:55:00Okay.
00:55:01Yes.
00:55:03Sergeant.
00:55:04Hi!
00:55:05I'm DS Piri.
00:55:06This is Daisy Murray.
00:55:07I don't suppose you could give us a lift?
00:55:08We're looking for an old caravan.
00:55:09Used for fishing.
00:55:10Well, there's a couple of those around.
00:55:34There's one that's been here for years.
00:55:49That sounds right.
00:55:51You take us there.
00:56:04Is that it?
00:56:12This is your stop.
00:56:18Thank you so much.
00:56:34Call an ambulance.
00:56:50If we're looking for a primer, how are we even going to find it?
00:56:53We under the...
00:56:55You're not going to...
00:56:56You can't just scrape the paint off. We don't even know if it's his.
00:56:58How are we going to know if it's his if we don't scrape the paint off?
00:57:04We should call forensics.
00:57:11We can't, Min.
00:57:13We have to do this on our own.
00:57:22Well, I guess we have to jimmy a window.
00:57:26Really?
00:57:34Okay.
00:57:53Lift it up.
00:57:54You...
00:57:55You want to?
00:57:58Do you think I'm lifting you?
00:58:00Yeah.
00:58:01Right, yeah.
00:58:18Can you see anything?
00:58:29It's wallpaper.
00:58:34Would you have primer under wallpaper?
00:58:41Okay.
00:58:43Okay.
00:58:59What are you doing?
00:59:00What are you doing?
00:59:01What are you doing?
00:59:29You nasty little worm.
00:59:54There's waterproofing the door and it looks like it was over a repair.
00:59:58Normally, you could avoid sweat paint like that, but not when you're carrying a body.
01:00:21I'm determined.
01:00:26Lost and killed Rosie.
01:00:29Any sign of the baby?
01:00:30Nowhere.
01:00:31Is he alive?
01:00:33Yes.
01:00:34Lost, lost of blood.
01:00:38Hey, Alex.
01:00:40Alex.
01:00:41Who did this to you?
01:00:45Hello?
01:00:46Where the hell have you been?
01:00:47Whoa.
01:00:48Well, I've been trying to call you.
01:00:50Been in luck leaving.
01:00:51There's no signal.
01:00:52Rosie's daughter has taken Alex's kid.
01:00:54What?
01:00:55Where the hell have you been?
01:00:56Whoa.
01:00:57Well, I've been trying to call you.
01:00:58Been in luck leaving.
01:00:59There's no signal.
01:01:00Rosie's daughter has taken Alex's kid.
01:01:01What?
01:01:02Where does she live?
01:01:03Jesus.
01:01:04Uh, she's...
01:01:05Her name's Grace Galloway.
01:01:06She lives in a big farm up in the middle of nowhere.
01:01:07Send me the address and meet me there.
01:01:08Okay.
01:01:09Send him the address.
01:01:10If you get there first, be careful.
01:01:11Okay?
01:01:12I don't know what she's going to do to you or the child.
01:01:13Okay?
01:01:14I don't know what she's going to do to you or the child.
01:01:15I don't know what she's going to do to you or the child.
01:01:18Who was that?
01:01:19No, it's yes.
01:01:36Maybe we should wait here, Sarge?
01:01:58No.
01:01:58Shouldn't we wait for a negotiator or something?
01:02:00We don't need a negotiator.
01:02:02It's a hostage situation, Sarge.
01:02:06You're nuts.
01:02:07You know that?
01:02:08That's what you were thinking, wasn't it?
01:02:09When I said we had to investigate Lawson.
01:02:11Look how that turned out.
01:02:18Okay.
01:02:19You're not going in there, though.
01:02:20I want you to do one thing.
01:02:21What is it?
01:02:22Make sure news of this gets back to Lawson.
01:02:25What?
01:02:26Shh.
01:02:27What do you mean?
01:02:28Sarge!
01:02:33Sarge!
01:02:34Shh!
01:02:54Don't move.
01:03:00Close the door.
01:03:04Where's the baby, Chris?
01:03:21Stay there.
01:03:23Or I will shoot you.
01:03:25Reception.
01:03:26How can I help you?
01:03:27I need a DCS Lawson's office.
01:03:30Sir, it's DC Murray.
01:03:31I know it's kind of strange to call you directly, but given your knowledge of the case...
01:03:36Is everything alright, Murray?
01:03:38No.
01:03:39It's T.S. Puri.
01:03:41She's in danger, Sarge.
01:03:43Where are you?
01:03:44I need to know the baby's safe, Grace.
01:03:46What for?
01:03:48Her parents will be torn up.
01:03:49I am torn up.
01:03:51Why does no one care about that?
01:03:52I do.
01:03:53I want to help you.
01:03:54You can't help me.
01:03:58I know I'm going down for this.
01:04:01It's really just a matter of who I bring down with me.
01:04:03I can tell you what you want to do.
01:04:04You don't know anything.
01:04:05That's where you're wrong.
01:04:07The police did fail your mother in the past.
01:04:10I haven't.
01:04:11I wouldn't.
01:04:14Show me where the baby is.
01:04:16And I'll tell you who I think killed her.
01:04:21I can give you the answers you want.
01:04:24You didn't three boys, did it?
01:04:27The ones that found her?
01:04:28That's what you've been doing, isn't it?
01:04:29Chasing them down on her path.
01:04:30No.
01:04:31She wouldn't want that.
01:04:32You don't know what she'd want!
01:04:34She was seeing one of them.
01:04:36Alex.
01:04:40The one you let go.
01:04:41She liked him.
01:04:43Really liked him.
01:04:44I think...
01:04:46That's his baby you've got somewhere in this house.
01:04:49What would you think of that?
01:04:56If it wasn't him, then...
01:04:57Then who was it?
01:05:00Show me the child.
01:05:02And I'll tell you.
01:05:06Tell me?
01:05:09I'll show you.
01:05:10Shoot me.
01:05:11And you'll never know.
01:05:12Show me.
01:05:13Look through the hallway.
01:05:14And you'll never know.
01:05:20Show me.
01:05:26Look through the hallway.
01:05:27Stop.
01:05:28Tell them to stay back.
01:05:40Call them!
01:05:41Okay?
01:05:42Okay?
01:05:43Okay?
01:05:44Okay?
01:05:45Sergeant, are you okay?
01:05:46You and the other officers need to stay back.
01:05:47Sergeant?
01:05:48It's all right.
01:05:49Got it under control.
01:05:50Just...
01:05:51Keep your distance.
01:05:52Understood.
01:05:53It's all right.
01:05:54It's all right.
01:05:55It's all right.
01:05:56It's all right.
01:05:57It's all right.
01:05:58It's all right.
01:05:59They're not coming in.
01:06:00It's just me and you.
01:06:01It's the door on the right.
01:06:02It's the door on the right.
01:06:03I'm sorry.
01:06:04It's the door on the right.
01:06:06I'm sorry.
01:06:09Are you okay?
01:06:10Sergeant, are you okay?
01:06:11You and the other officers need to stay back.
01:06:12Sergeant?
01:06:13It's all right.
01:06:14Got it under control.
01:06:15Just...
01:06:16Keep your distance.
01:06:17Understood.
01:06:18Sorry, they're not coming in.
01:06:19It's just me and you.
01:06:20It's the door on the right.
01:06:22Is it your turn?
01:06:44I'm going to need to move me and the baby over to the window if you'll let me.
01:06:50Why?
01:06:50To let my fellow officers know we're all right.
01:06:54And that way they won't burst in on us until we're finished.
01:06:56I'm not going to get up.
01:07:00I'm not going to get up.
01:07:00I don't know.
01:07:31All right. Now tell me, we made a deal.
01:07:39There are a few new things we know about your mother's last movements.
01:07:43We know she went to a party.
01:07:46And then we know she left to walk back to the pub where she was meeting her brothers.
01:07:52But on the way, it started to rain.
01:07:56She was offered a lift from someone she knew.
01:07:59Someone she trusted.
01:08:00I believe it was a police officer.
01:08:07He took her back to his house, not home.
01:08:11There was a caravan on the site that he was living in.
01:08:15She went inside.
01:08:20And I believe that's where he killed her.
01:08:21Who is he?
01:08:24Where is he now?
01:08:33I'm about to do something really risky right now, Chris.
01:08:36What?
01:08:37I'm going to go and arrest your mother's murderer.
01:08:43And I want you to be there for it.
01:08:54He's standing right there, outside.
01:08:57He's here.
01:08:58He's standing right there.
01:09:10Coaching the goalie.
01:09:11Hold on.
01:09:12Hold on.
01:09:12Hold on.
01:09:12Hold on.
01:09:12Hold on.
01:09:12Hold on.
01:09:17The house is surrounded, Chris.
01:09:21They won't wait much longer before they come in here.
01:09:25Give me the gun.
01:09:27We can do this together.
01:09:28No!
01:09:31You go out there holding that?
01:09:33They're just going to shoot you.
01:09:37You want answers, Grace?
01:09:38Please.
01:09:40Please, let me give them to you.
01:09:45He killed her.
01:09:48You're sure?
01:09:51We have one chance.
01:09:54Me and you.
01:09:56You come in or not.
01:10:08I'm DS Karen Pity.
01:10:11This woman is unarmed.
01:10:12And the baby is safe.
01:10:14Put the gun down.
01:10:15I just need one minute, ma'am.
01:10:16DS Pity, put the gun down.
01:10:17I just need one minute.
01:10:19You need to stay there.
01:10:21No, you said.
01:10:21I need you to trust me.
01:10:23DS Pity, put the gun down.
01:10:24I'm disarming the gun.
01:10:30On the floor.
01:10:31Now look at me.
01:10:32Look at me.
01:10:36Put the gun down now.
01:10:38Walk towards me.
01:10:44I just need you to give me one minute, ma'am.
01:10:50Sir, I need a word with you.
01:10:54Are you all right, Sergeant?
01:10:57Chief Superintendent James Lawson.
01:11:03I'm arresting you under Section 1
01:11:06of the Criminal Justice Scotland Act 2016.
01:11:10What are you doing, Perry?
01:11:11For the murder of Rosie Duff.
01:11:14This is ridiculous.
01:11:16You are not obliged to say anything,
01:11:17but anything you do say
01:11:19will be noted
01:11:20and may be used in evidence.
01:11:21You're embarrassing yourself, Sergeant.
01:11:23Do you understand?
01:11:24Do you understand?
01:11:32Murray, you be careful now.
01:11:33Yeah, don't you tell!
01:11:36Forensics are on their way to Loch Leaven right now.
01:11:43We found the second crime scene.
01:11:45Do you understand, sir?
01:12:01Do you understand, sir?
01:12:03Yes, sir.
01:12:11No, sir.
01:12:12No, sir.
01:12:12Bye-bye.
01:12:13Bye-bye.
01:12:13No, sir.
01:12:14I believe we are Ukraine.
01:12:15No, sir.
01:12:16Grace Galloway, I'm arresting you under Section 1 of the Criminal Justice Scotland Act 2016 for the abduction of the penal guilt.
01:12:46Chief Superintendent Lawson, can you tell us in your own words where you were and what you did on the night of the 26th of June 1996?
01:13:16I'll ask you again. Chief Superintendent Lawson, you were in St Andrews at the Lammas Bar on the evening of the 26th of June 1996, were you not?
01:13:32Perhaps I should tell you what I think happened. Feel free to chip in. Anytime. In around 1992, when you were 21 and Rosie Duff was 15 years old, so still legally a child, you had a relationship with her.
01:13:50I say relationship. It could have been a one-night stand, but I imagine it was more significant than that because of the possessiveness you displayed later, as shown in Rosie's diary.
01:14:02Can I prove all this? Well, I can prove one thing. The DNA taken at your arrest is a close familial match with a woman we have previously identified as Rosie Duff's child. Proving you are her father.
01:14:20You were sleeping with Rosie when she was underage and she got pregnant. Of course, you couldn't have that coming out. You were a young and ambitious policeman. And I'm guessing, but I don't think Rosie wanted a child either.
01:14:34Maybe she was too far gone to have an abortion. Maybe she was too far gone to have an abortion. I don't know. I can't ask her. But what did happen was that she went away for a summer to stay with an aunt and had the baby in secret and told you and her family it died.
01:14:49But it didn't die. That baby was a little girl. Your daughter. She was adopted by Bonnie and Greg Galloway. Grace Galloway is 27 now, and she's been arrested for the murder of Ziggy Malkovich, the attempted murder of Alex Gilby, and the abduction of Alex Gilby's child, Davina.
01:15:14You ruined your own daughter's life by not owning up. She's going to do a long stretch in prison, and don't get me wrong, she deserves it. But you had a part to play in that too.
01:15:27So, Rosie, I reckon she came back after her summer away and you wanted everything to go back to normal. Am I right? And I'm guessing Rosie didn't want that.
01:15:38Maybe the trauma of all had soured the relationship for her. Maybe the way you acted had put her off you.
01:15:45I don't know. I'm just guessing. Maybe she was just never that into you.
01:15:51But you weren't ready to give up, were you? You kept your eyes on her at all times. You drank in the Lammas bar where she worked. You made sure she didn't date anyone else. You did this for three years. A teenage girl.
01:16:10Somebody told you she was moving on, didn't it? You suspected it was one of the students, but you never did know for sure. And when Rosie snuck out the pub that night, you noticed. You went looking for her.
01:16:25And then 2.15am on Prentice Road. That's where you saw her.
01:16:30It's pissing it down, Rosie. My brothers are picking me up. Where's wrong? I'll give you a lift.
01:16:35No, you know they'll kill you or me if they see me with you. Just from the top of the street then.
01:16:39No, I'm alright. You go home. Where have you been? I'm not doing this again.
01:16:44Just talk to me, won't you? I don't want to talk to you. Please, Rosie.
01:16:48You always say the same things. Because I mean it. It doesn't matter. We're over. We're done with.
01:16:52You don't mean that. It was just what happened. That ruined everything. Before that, we were fine.
01:16:57Jimmy. Now that you're older, we don't have to hide it.
01:16:59Jimmy, please. I don't want to talk about this. I just want to go home.
01:17:02Let me give you a lift to the high street. And I promise, I promise, I'll leave it. I cannae leave you here in the rain.
01:17:11But you didn't take her up to the high street, did you? But you took her back to your house, your caravan.
01:17:18Rosie had a rare paint on the hood of her cardigan that matches the primer used on the inside of the door of your caravan.
01:17:28So, she obviously came inside. Did she go willingly? Did you tell her you'd stop bothering her if she'd just talk to you?
01:17:37Did you say you'd take her home if she just gave you five minutes?
01:17:44I know you had sex. I think you forced it on her. And I think when she told you to stop, you got angry.
01:17:52You put your hands around her neck. And you strangled her. You strangled that poor girl until she was unconscious. And then you panicked.
01:18:05Maybe you didn't mean to kill her. Maybe you just wanted to teach her a lesson. Sure how strong you were. How small she was. I know you weren't thinking straight. Because the truth was, she wasn't dead.
01:18:18And you didn't take the time to check. You thought of yourself before her. You didn't think, how can I save this girl from what I've done to her?
01:18:25You thought, how can I make it look as though it wasn't me? You thought of the other unsolved murders that you'd heard of. The one in Inveruri came to mind.
01:18:34A girl left in a cemetery cut across the stomach. I think you took a kitchen knife from your caravan. You put her in the boot of your car. And you drove her to the cathedral.
01:18:47You laid her out on a grave. And you cut her. Tie the two crimes together. And she died there. Slowly. While she went home and cleaned herself up.
01:19:05You were back at the crime scene within 45 minutes after McLennan called you. You were relieved when the students found her.
01:19:11That's when you first knew you might get away with it. When you took over the case. You made a whole box of evidence go missing.
01:19:18All of Rosie's clothes. Genius. How would we ever connect you now? What you didn't account for was human error.
01:19:27Because Rosie's cardigan was genuinely misfiled. And that is where we found the paint.
01:19:34You thought you dealt with the eyewitness. The eyewitness that saw Rosie getting into your car.
01:19:39Was it your car, DCS Lawson? Was it your mother's car? Did you use your mum's car to dispose of a body?
01:19:53And sold it a week later. Bought her a new one. She was delighted.
01:20:00This next part I'm not so sure on. Maybe you can help me.
01:20:06But Clennan. He knew about this eyewitness. But he didn't share it with you. He told Janice. And she mentioned it to you.
01:20:18I've been going through his notes. Trying to find details of this eyewitness.
01:20:23No, no. Me too. There's a few scribbled phone numbers, but none of them have been right.
01:20:29But he must have hid it down somewhere. Maybe one day. I'm going to stay late, I think.
01:20:33Is that because he was already onto you? Did you know that somehow? Because it's just weird, isn't it?
01:20:39That a detective is about to solve a crime and then dies in an accident. An accident that you were present for.
01:20:45Ancius! Ancius! OBIY!
01:20:52I don't see ya!
01:20:55Did you kill MacLennan?
01:21:21Did you kill him before he could tell anyone what you did?
01:21:25No.
01:21:28It was an accident.
01:21:30I couldn't save him.
01:21:32I tried to.
01:21:37So, everything else I've said,
01:21:41it's not worth the response.
01:21:45But that,
01:21:47that was too far.
01:21:55I underestimated you, can't Billy?
01:22:04Is that why you gave me the job?
01:22:08You thought I couldn't do it?
01:22:09You were sure that I'd never do it?
01:22:19I did.
01:22:19I had always imagined what my Earth Mother looked like.
01:22:33Dark eyes like mine.
01:22:37Dark hair.
01:22:38Beautiful, of course, because
01:22:41that's just how you imagine someone you love but have never met.
01:22:46Then the podcast came out.
01:22:52At first, I thought it was on my side.
01:22:55That it was going to help her.
01:22:58That it was going to help me.
01:23:00And I started to read the messages.
01:23:06And look at the crime scene photos that were shared on there.
01:23:12Photos of her.
01:23:13Of her pale face and her neck.
01:23:20And the blood on her clothes.
01:23:22And I stopped being able to see her anymore.
01:23:26The version of my mum I had in my head.
01:23:28I started to see all this stuff instead.
01:23:34This, um,
01:23:36lifeless body because
01:23:38that's what she wants to the world.
01:23:41A dead girl.
01:23:41A dead girl.
01:23:43A dead girl.
01:23:43A dead girl.
01:23:43A dead girl.
01:23:43A dead girl.
01:23:44A dead girl.
01:23:44A dead girl.
01:23:44A dead girl.
01:23:47And suddenly, I just wanted to see them.
01:23:49I just wanted to see
01:23:50who killed her.
01:23:55So,
01:23:56when they were named on these forums,
01:23:59I believed it.
01:24:02And I went.
01:24:03And I found them.
01:24:06And I followed them.
01:24:11But when I saw their
01:24:16big houses and their
01:24:19careers and their
01:24:23marriages and their
01:24:25babies,
01:24:27I got so angry.
01:24:31Because she was never going to have any of that.
01:24:35because it was all
01:24:39snatched from her.
01:24:45I won't,
01:24:45I won't make excuses.
01:24:49I won't,
01:24:49I won't justify.
01:24:54I,
01:24:55I made a split second decision
01:24:57to end a man's life.
01:24:59the wrong man's life.
01:25:21And I will never forgive myself.
01:25:25Because I'm just like him.
01:25:26there is a difference,
01:25:31Grace.
01:25:35You confessed.
01:25:40He didn't.
01:25:51Do you want to meet him?
01:25:52Do you want to meet him?
01:25:56No.
01:25:59I want him to spend the rest of his life
01:26:01wondering what I'm like.
01:26:07Just like I have to do with her.
01:26:11I have.
01:26:11Hi.
01:26:13I'm Colin.
01:26:16Hi, Colin.
01:26:17Come here.
01:26:18Perry.
01:26:26Perry.
01:26:30Sir.
01:26:33Bittersweet.
01:26:35Doesn't quite cut it,
01:26:36does it?
01:26:39No.
01:26:41Sir.
01:26:43It's a hard thing,
01:26:44taking down one of your own.
01:26:46unsettles the whole place.
01:26:49Puts everybody's eyes
01:26:50on you.
01:26:53And because of that,
01:26:55it takes bravery
01:26:56and it takes guts.
01:27:00You are an asset
01:27:01to this service,
01:27:03Karen.
01:27:05Thank you, sir.
01:27:07You're welcome.
01:27:09Back to work.
01:27:09Back to work.
01:27:09How much more chilling
01:27:34is it to know
01:27:35that this tragic killing
01:27:37was committed
01:27:38by a police officer?
01:27:40Someone who we should
01:27:41feel safe around.
01:27:43Someone employed
01:27:44to protect us.
01:27:46The Duff family
01:27:47finally have answers.
01:27:49They can finally heal.
01:27:51But the Scottish Police Service
01:27:53may feel the ripples
01:27:55of this trauma
01:27:55for a long time.
01:27:58Still not a bomb sticker
01:28:27anymore, eh?
01:28:28Box sticker?
01:28:30Don't even start.
01:28:31No.
01:28:32You're going to need
01:28:33a new nickname, though.
01:28:34I was thinking
01:28:34peri-peri sauce.
01:28:36Too long.
01:28:38Hot sauce.
01:28:39I like hot sauce.
01:28:41No one's going to call you
01:28:41hot sauce
01:28:42in the office.
01:28:43Mmm, I might.
01:28:47Fanny pack.
01:28:50Absolutely not.
01:28:52Right.
01:28:53I'm off.
01:28:54I'm going to get one more.
01:29:04You're following me.
01:29:05Would you mind
01:29:06very much if I was?
01:29:08Yeah, depends on
01:29:09what you want.
01:29:10I just, I just want
01:29:12to keep you safe
01:29:12from criminals.
01:29:14I'm better at that
01:29:15than you, remember.
01:29:16Ah, I'll get great.
01:29:18I'm better at that
01:29:19than you, remember.
01:29:19Um, I'll get good.
01:29:20Well, I'll get to you
01:29:33in a minute.