Jones & Keefe: The Red Sox have picked a lane

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00:00Red Sox contenders, according to Jeff Passan, Crochet, I'm sorry, Chapman, going nowhere,

00:06Bregman, going nowhere, Red Sox will be buyers, they're contenders, and in the words of Boston

00:13Connor, suck it.

00:14Yeah, go ahead.

00:15I mean...

00:16Go ahead.

00:17Tell Passan to get in line, by the way.

00:19Suck it!

00:20We were already on this.

00:22Good point.

00:22We were talking World Series contenders way before Passan was.

00:25The idea that, and this came from your guy, Ralph Keith, which really, you should stop

00:29listening to him, I don't know why you even went there, but your guy, Jim Bowden, said,

00:34oh yeah, if they can't work out an extension, the Red Sox might trade Bregman, which was

00:38nonsense at the time.

00:39And he named like three teams that I think are all below them in the standings, like,

00:42I don't think they're going to trade Bregman to the Mariners.

00:45No.

00:45That's what he was saying.

00:46And Chapman, when the Red Sox were below .500 and losing six games in a row, or whatever

00:51it was, and getting bombarded by the Angels a week or two ago, or two weeks ago, whatever

00:56it was, I was like, yeah, they might wind up selling Chapman if they fall out of it.

01:01Yeah.

01:01You get a lot for them, but no, you're good.

01:03No.

01:03So those guys are going nowhere.

01:05They're going to be buying, and they are contenders.

01:07I agree with all of it.

01:07Yeah.

01:07I mean, the question is going to come down to, you know, how big of a buy does it end

01:12up being?

01:13Like, what are they willing to part with?

01:14What are they, how aggressive will Breslow be?

01:18I think it's fair to say the most aggressive Breslow has been in his tenure here was probably

01:23acquiring Garrett Crochet.

01:24A hundred percent, and Kyle Teal's a top, top prospect.

01:28He was, he was originally in their big three before Campbell made it a big four.

01:31Now it's back to a big three again, but he was willing to trade him in the off season

01:35and got a massive return.

01:37Although Crochet, despite never having pitched, you know, close to 200 innings or anything,

01:41he was viewed as almost like a lock.

01:44Like when they got him, he was a top three, five and a Cy Young candidate for, for this

01:49year.

01:54The time that he has spoke, I feel pretty confident though, that he's not just going

01:58to lean back on the, any additions, a good addition.

02:00You know, he sort of mapped out the players that they have, who's pitched well, you know,

02:05what they can rely on, but they need an impact arm.

02:08So how many impact arms are even available?

02:10How many impact arms are even going to be on the move is another question.

02:13Okay.

02:13So NBC sports, Boston had a quick list of 10 impact starters.

02:17Let's hear it.

02:17Oh, you're putting quotes up.

02:19You tell me, you tell me if these guys are an impact starter or not.

02:22We'll just tick through their list.

02:23Cause I, it's shortened to the point.

02:25All right.

02:25Joe Ryan impact starter.

02:27Yes.

02:28Did you see crochet and Bregman are like full on recruiting him at the all-star game?

02:32Did you see this?

02:32So Bradford, Bradford's there.

02:34Brad was loose with Joe Ryan.

02:36Brad fo was hounded him right in his face.

02:38A good one-on-one with Joe Ryan.

02:39You'll hear Brad full on Thursday at 1130.

02:42He joins us every week.

02:43You can check him out.

02:43Baseball isn't boring for a sit down with Joe Ryan by a turp.

02:47That is Alex Bregman on Instagram.

02:49It is Bregman in his all-star uniform with crochet and Joe Ryan who wants out of Minnesota.

02:56Yeah.

02:57So there you go.

02:58That is a, that's one impact arm.

03:00Dylan cease.

03:01That's a tough one.

03:02If you asked me this a year ago, I would have said impact arm.

03:05So maybe, yeah, I would, maybe yes.

03:06I would still lean.

03:07Yes.

03:07But it's, I, it's not a slam dunk.

03:09Ryan's a slam dunk.

03:10I would lean.

03:11Yes.

03:11Though Mitch, Mitch Keller.

03:14Yes.

03:15Yes.

03:15I was.

03:16What are his numbers?

03:16I was a no on that one.

03:17I don't know.

03:18He's Mitch Keller.

03:18Oh, you don't like Mitch Keller?

03:20348 ERA over 20 starts, 114 whip.

03:22That's pretty good.

03:23Good.

03:24Mitch Keller?

03:25Impact arm?

03:26Impact arm.

03:27Impact arm is you hit the, the Red Sox trade for him and you, you have to pull over and go,

03:31wow, I can't believe that just happened.

03:32Mitch Keller was an all-star two years ago.

03:34That'd be breaking news, Sounder.

03:35Mitch Keller.

03:36It's Mitch Keller.

03:37Mitch Keller is impact starter.

03:39Here he comes.

03:41Now he doesn't have a nickname, so we can work on that.

03:43That's no problem.

03:44We can give him a nickname when he gets here.

03:45Oh yeah.

03:45We could definitely do that.

03:46More like pitch Keller.

03:48Am I right?

03:49Ugh.

03:50So he's, no, but a 348 ERA and he's got, oh, he's not a big K guy.

03:54No.

03:54All right.

03:56You want to take it back?

03:57Yeah.

03:57Okay.

03:58Yeah.

03:58Taking it back.

03:58Freddie Peralta.

04:00No.

04:00I like him.

04:01I wouldn't call him an impact arm.

04:02Like I would, I would like for the Red Sox to trade for him.

04:04What's Freddie P up to?

04:05I would aim higher than that.

04:06Oh, he's at the all-star game right now.

04:07Yeah.

04:07He was there last night at the Homer and Derby.

04:092-6-6 ERA for the Brewers.

04:11Yeah.

04:11All right.

04:12This year, impact arm.

04:13I'll change it.

04:14You'll revise that up to impact arm.

04:15That one would be.

04:15Okay.

04:16Give me that one.

04:16How about Edward Cabrera?

04:17Fan.

04:18I'm a fan of his.

04:20So would you call him an impact arm or you're just a fan?

04:21I would, I would call him an impact arm.

04:23Yeah.

04:24And maybe this is inconsistent with Peralta.

04:25I just know Peralta in the past has like walked a million guys.

04:28Yeah.

04:28I don't know that I love the rollercoaster ride with Peralta.

04:31Just over a K per nine, 3-6-1 ERA talking about Cabrera.

04:35So, okay.

04:37Yeah.

04:37I think all these guys would be not the way Baio's pitching.

04:41They wouldn't be better than Baio with the exception of Joe Ryan.

04:43Everybody else though would be better than Giolito.

04:46So I think everybody, you would, you would make this, whoever, all the names you've mentioned

04:49would probably be their third starter.

04:50Here's a good name.

04:50I heard baseball Brett mentioned it today.

04:52I don't know why the Rangers would trade him, but I'd love it.

04:54Nathan Evaldi.

04:55Yeah.

04:55Okay.

04:56I know it is weird.

04:57It's sort of like, you know, we make fun of like the Patriots when they always like

05:00bring back old guys and stuff.

05:01Who would you rather have?

05:02Evaldi or Ryan?

05:04Um, Joe Ryan.

05:06I think I'd want Evaldi.

05:07I mean, he got his nails.

05:08He's having a good year.

05:10He's awesome in the postseason.

05:11I know he works here.

05:12He's lights out this year.

05:13Like, I think I would, out of those two, if he's really available, I'd rather him.

05:17And I bet he'd cost less.

05:18Uh, yeah, but Joe Ryan to me is for this year and beyond.

05:21So he helps you win maybe, uh, as much as you could possibly win this year.

05:26And then now I have crochet Ryan for the next handful of years.

05:29Whereas if you're like, Hey, you have Evaldi next year.

05:31Okay.

05:31It's more of a, they both have term, but it's more of an all in move.

05:34Yeah.

05:35Uh, let's breeze through these next ones.

05:36Chris Bubich.

05:37You like him?

05:38Bubich?

05:38Yeah.

05:39I got to check the stats on Bubich.

05:41I would say no.

05:41I think we're starting to get into the 248, 116.

05:45He's an all-star.

05:46Okay.

05:47All right.

05:47Seth Lugo, also from Kansas city.

05:49And then two D-backs pitchers.

05:51They wanted Seth Lugo a year ago and he was awesome a year ago.

05:55Uh, two D-backs pitchers, Merrill Kelly and Zach Gallon.

06:00So I think all these guys would help.

06:02Honestly, all those guys are pretty good.

06:03That's, that's a little bit deeper than I thought it would be at this time of year.

06:07Uh, and, and a lot of those guys are on bad teams.

06:09So a lot of those guys I think would definitely, if the price is right.

06:13But it's also, you didn't mention a single Padre.

06:17Nope.

06:17And now, well, Cease, yes.

06:18Oh, sorry.

06:19You mentioned Dylan Cease.

06:20But like, all right.

06:20So just leave it there for a second.

06:22I wouldn't trade Duran for Dylan Cease.

06:24Me neither.

06:24And I think most people wouldn't.

06:25Hopefully, Breslow doesn't.

06:26The rest of those names on there, those teams might not even want Duran.

06:29So now you're talking about minor leaguers.

06:31I wouldn't trade Duran for anybody on that list.

06:32Now, we wavered last week.

06:34Yeah, Ryan was a tough one.

06:35I would rather get Chris Bubich.

06:38I would rather get Mitch Keller.

06:40Yeah.

06:40And give up prospects than trade Duran for a guy like Joe Ryan.

06:44Yeah.

06:44Lugo's good again this year.

06:46I didn't realize.

06:46If that's what it takes to get Joe Ryan, I'm not giving up Duran.

06:48And I would just go to the next notch down, whether that's Evaldi, whether that's Lugo,

06:53whoever that, I'd rather another name on that list and keep Duran than give up Duran and get Joe Ryan.

06:59Yeah.

07:00And I don't think it's even going to take Duran to get Joe Ryan.

07:02It costs you less to get Garrett Crochet.

07:05617-779-7937.

07:09Jeff Passan says the Red Sox are contenders.

07:11He says they will be buyers.

07:13Bregman going nowhere.

07:14Chapman going nowhere.

07:16The question is, do you trust Craig Breslow to get this done over the next week plus leading up to the trade deadline?

07:21Or really two weeks leading up to the trade deadline.

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