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00:00Hello my dear friends, and welcome back to another Star Wars video.
00:03It is I, coming at you once again, your favourite galactic hostess, Star Wars Meg.
00:08And today, we have some unprecedented, surprising comments from Rian Johnson,
00:13a bit of a polarising figure in the Star Wars fandom, the writer and director of The Last Jedi,
00:18the movie which many fans point to as the start of the Disney Star Wars decline.
00:22And in a brand new interview with Rollingstone.com, he not only teases the next instalment of Knives Out,
00:27but he also reflected on his Star Wars work, The Last Jedi,
00:31and he also provided an update on his upcoming Star Wars trilogy, the one that was announced nearly a decade ago.
00:36And let's be honest, I don't think it's ever going to happen.
00:39But Rian's given us some new insights, and in typical Rian fashion, he is subverting expectations.
00:45Let's begin with some of his more controversial comments.
00:48This one is already riling up fans, and causing a bit of drama.
00:52Rian insists The Last Jedi doesn't undo anything that J.J. Abrams did in The Force Awakens,
00:58I actually agree with this, but not for the reasons you might think.
01:01So Rian says, his movie is a logical continuation from episode 7.
01:06He furthered these characters, and wrote the next step for them.
01:09Now some fans disagree.
01:10They say, well you didn't have to have Luke be a miserable, depressed old man.
01:14He didn't have to chuck the lightsaber over his shoulder.
01:17And while that's true, we have to be honest, and we have to be fair,
01:20J.J. Abrams is the one who puts Luke on the island in The Force Awakens.
01:24Rian had to explain why, and come up with a reason why the hero of the Battle of Endor lost all hope.
01:30Why would the most well-known Jedi in the galaxy during this time exile himself?
01:34Abandon his friends and family, the New Republic, the Resistance?
01:38What would have caused the man who redeemed Darth Vader to want to run away like this?
01:43Having to come up with such an explanation is a very heavy task.
01:47Do I agree with the way Rian did it?
01:48Absolutely not.
01:50But to claim he bears all the responsibility is just disingenuous.
01:53And on the subject of consistency within the sequel movies,
01:56I would argue J.J.'s The Rise of Skywalker is the one that's inconsistent.
02:00That's the movie that tried to invalidate episode 8, and course correct.
02:04I understand there are defenders of episodes 8 and 9,
02:07but had they had a plan from the start, so many of these creative choices could have been averted.
02:13Next up, my friends, Rian Johnson talks about the decision to kill Snoke.
02:17Another really frustrating choice, because we still know so little about him,
02:22and his story was changed about three times.
02:24At first he was a relic of the old empire.
02:27He watched as it rose and collapsed.
02:29And the intrigue of him, the mystique, the unknown, was just so appetizing and so delicious.
02:35That's why around 2015 and 2016, fan theories and speculation were rampant.
02:41This was around the same time Star Wars YouTube channels were kicking off.
02:44It was such a cool time, pre The Last Jedi.
02:47Snoke theories range from making sense, to being extremely far-fetched.
02:51But regardless, we were eating up any breadcrumbs we could get.
02:54We were trying to figure out who this guy was.
02:56Was he Mace Windu?
02:57Was he Darth Plagueis?
02:58Was he someone else from the days of the Republic?
03:01And then, in episode 8, he dies, and we have no answers.
03:05No information about his scars, his name, how he became the Supreme Leader,
03:09and how the First Order was founded.
03:11And so then, Rian Johnson took pleasure in mocking fans who had any kind of theory about him.
03:16And so afterwards, to retcon things, J.J. Abrams made him a clone of Palpatine.
03:21It was so random, so last minute.
03:23But to this day, the canon timeline of his existence makes no sense.
03:27We still have so many questions.
03:28But Rian now says this.
03:30It's all a matter of perspective and phrasing.
03:33But to me, I didn't easily dispense with Snoke.
03:36I took great pains in using him in the most dramatic, impactful way I could.
03:40And that was to fast-track Kylo Ren to the dark side.
03:43To become the new leader of the First Order.
03:45And that's another thing.
03:46I have a feeling he never intended Kylo to have a redemption.
03:49So that's also another interesting change.
03:51But Snoke was always meant to be a plot device.
03:54He wasn't meant to be an ancient Sith.
03:55Someone with an elaborate backstory who fought this person and who knows this person.
04:00He was there as a catalyst to propel Kylo Ren.
04:03Snoke was always intended to be a nobody.
04:06And so now, my friends, Rian talks about his upcoming trilogy.
04:10Right off the bat, Rian has changed his tune.
04:12He used to be so certain that one day he was going to return to Lucasfilm and work on those movies.
04:17But now you get the impression that even he knows it's never going to happen.
04:21So here's the quote.
04:22It was all very conceptual.
04:24There was never any outline or a treatment or anything.
04:27Nothing really happened.
04:28We had a great time working on The Last Jedi.
04:31And Lucasfilm said, let's keep doing it.
04:33And then he says he kicked some ideas around with Kathy.
04:36But nothing ever came of it.
04:37But now, my friends, instead of talking about when it's going to happen further down the line.
04:41He's using the word, if.
04:43So instead of saying, I'm going to return to this one day.
04:46When Knives Out is done, I'm going to focus on my Star Wars trilogy.
04:49He says this.
04:50If down the line there's an opportunity to do it, I would be thrilled.
04:54That is a stark difference to his comments in the past.
04:57Even as recently as 2024.
04:59Even Kathleen Kennedy was defending him.
05:02It was always a case of, whenever Rian has time to do it.
05:05Knives Out got in the way.
05:06He's working on a few other projects.
05:08But when he's done with those, he will return to Star Wars.
05:11But clearly things have changed.
05:12And I don't think Disney and Lucasfilm want to take the risk.
05:15Because when they greenlit his trilogy, it was before the backlash to The Last Jedi.
05:19So Lucasfilm had no idea what was to come.
05:22And so now with the Star Wars movie focus being on The Mandalorian and Grogu.
05:25Star Wars Starfighter, Dawn of the Jedi.
05:27The Rey movie.
05:28I very much doubt the Rian Johnson trilogy is ever going to happen.
05:32And come on.
05:32Rian's intelligent.
05:34I think even he knows it.
05:35He's just trying to save face.
05:37He knows how a lot of people felt about his movie.
05:40Does he want to return?
05:41Sure.
05:42But I just don't see it.
05:43And I also just want to point out.
05:45I don't know if I believe him when he says there was no outline for the trilogy.
05:48From some of the things I've heard.
05:50And this is just through the grapevine.
05:51Rian was going to make a Dawn of the Jedi trilogy.
05:54Before it was handed to James Mangold as a standalone.
05:57J.J. Abrams is the one who introduced Arcto Island in The Force Awakens.
06:01But it was Rian Johnson who furthered the notion it was the first Jedi Temple.
06:05And so his trilogy would have gone back 25,000 years.
06:08And given us the first Jedi.
06:10Which in a way would have rhymed with The Last Jedi.
06:13And tonally it might have been very similar.
06:15For all we know.
06:16It could have been good.
06:17Rian is a very adventurous and talented filmmaker.
06:20But I don't think he was right for episode 8.
06:22And so finally.
06:24Rian says he never intended to direct episode 9.
06:27He was asked if Lucasfilm approached him.
06:29Or if he wanted to do it.
06:30And he says.
06:31No.
06:32Absolutely not.
06:33The reality is if I thought I was doing both of them.
06:36I would have ended my movie the same way.
06:37From the very start.
06:39The assignment was.
06:40You're going to do episode 8.
06:41And someone else is going to do 9.
06:43And I can understand why this leaves a bad taste in many fans mouths.
06:46Because Rian's aim with this movie was to give us a middle installment.
06:50That subverted expectations.
06:52In the past.
06:53He's on record saying he loves when his movies divide people.
06:56He would hate if everyone loved it.
06:57He wants half the audience to be obsessed with it.
07:00And the other half to hate it.
07:02And if that was his approach to Star Wars.
07:04Then it's kind of like him saying.
07:05This is going to be my fingerprint.
07:07On the franchise.
07:08Instead of writing something that serves the overall story.
07:12And I don't think Star Wars fans are ever going to get over this.
07:14It's the reason I don't think Lucasfilm's ever going to want him working on Star Wars ever again.
07:18Because whenever he's interviewed.
07:20Whenever he makes comments like this.
07:22Fans jump on it.
07:23And it reopens the wounds from back in 2017.
07:26And just to rub a bit more salt into all of this.
07:28Rian admits he hated the prequel trilogy when it came out.
07:32And the ironic thing is.
07:33In terms of themes.
07:34Of all the sequel movies.
07:36The Last Jedi is the most compatible with something like Revenge of the Sith.
07:39Luke Skywalker even mentions the rise of Palpatine.
07:42How in their hubris.
07:44The Jedi allowed the Sith to rise under their noses.
07:46So those are Rian's comments.
07:48And I guess very little has changed.
07:51Other than maybe his comments about his trilogy.
07:53But what do you guys think?
07:54Share your thoughts in the comments down below.
07:56And if you enjoyed this video my dear friends.
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08:03And may the force be with you.
08:05Always.
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