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Mike Pence Praises Big Beautiful Bill For Extending 'All Of The Trump-Pence' Tax Cuts
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7/10/2025
Former Vice President Mike Pence spoke about the Big Beautiful Bill during an interview on CNN Thursday.
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As I said in the last segment, seeing the president reaffirm that commitment to American leadership on the world stage,
00:09
seeing him sign last week a bill that extended all the Trump-Pence tax cuts
00:15
when some of the populist voices were literally talking about raising the top marginal rate,
00:20
which would have been the largest tax increase in American history.
00:25
So you think the Mike Pence lane still exists in the Republican Party?
00:29
I mean, it does appear that the Mike Pence lane, the tried and true conservative, traditional conservative that we know of,
00:38
definitely does not have the loudest, most powerful voice in the party right now.
00:44
Yeah, well, I wouldn't be presumptuous to call it the Mike Pence lane.
00:48
I'm calling it that.
00:49
This is a conservative party and has been a conservative party since the days of Barry Goldwater,
00:57
since the day of Ronald Reagan.
01:00
It also has some tried and true conservatives.
01:01
That's why they are so upset about that tax and spending bill, because it adds $3 trillion to the deficit and debt.
01:07
Like, you've got...
01:08
But that's what, you know, that's an area where I would respectfully disagree with Senator Tillis.
01:13
I would have had no problem voting for the one big beautiful bill,
01:18
because it extended all of the Trump-Pence tax cuts.
01:21
It introduced significant Medicaid reform.
01:25
It defunded Planned Parenthood for the first time in history.
01:29
And all of those things speak to that conservative agenda in the Republican Party.
01:35
And I think it's alive and well.
01:38
And I think it's important that Republicans offer the American people a choice, not an echo.
01:45
I mean, when I see the populist right saying that we need to pull back on the world stage,
01:53
we need to embrace big government programs, price controls,
01:56
that we're against reforming entitlements, that we don't want to talk about the right to life,
02:01
that sounds like the agenda of the Democratic Party.
02:05
And I expect that you're going to continue to see the Republican Party stay on that track of conservatism
02:14
in the days ahead, and whatever the future holds for me, I'm going to be a voice for that.
02:19
Part of that bill is the Medicaid cuts.
02:23
In Indiana, the state you and I love so much, 26% of people there are on Medicaid.
02:28
A dozen rural hospitals are at risk of closing.
02:31
And Tom Tillis says the real-life consequences of the Medicaid cuts are going to be politically devastating,
02:38
pushing people off of Medicaid.
02:41
Do you agree?
02:42
I don't.
02:43
I don't.
02:44
And, in fact, in our four years in the administration,
02:47
we pushed hard at HHS to create work requirements in Medicaid.
02:54
And now it is in the law and in the federal budget.
02:58
And I give the president and his team all the credit in the world for doing that.
03:03
When I was governor of Indiana, where we're both from and proud,
03:07
I actually introduced health savings accounts into Medicaid.
03:12
We got the very first waiver ever to create consumer-directed aspects of Medicaid.
03:20
The key is we've got to reform these programs.
03:23
We certainly don't want people who are in this country illegally to be receiving Medicaid benefits.
03:28
We want those resources to go to people who really need them.
03:31
And I think that's what Congress did.
03:32
When he says it's politically devastating, going to be for Republicans,
03:36
if you don't agree with him, when you look at the landscape now,
03:39
what do you think poses the biggest risk to Republicans in the midterms?
03:44
Well, I think now having passed the one big, beautiful bill,
03:50
which may turn out to be the one big bill they do,
03:54
because they did it all together, I think they've got to tell their story.
03:59
You know, I was the third-ranking Republican during my time in the Congress.
04:03
I was not only led the conservative caucus, but I was the conference chairman.
04:08
And I understand that if you can't communicate, you can't govern.
04:11
And I think it's absolutely essential, and I'd say to every one of my former friends
04:16
or former colleagues and my friends in Congress,
04:19
is get out across America, talk about what you did here.
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