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The Killer Clown Murder on the Doorstep Season 1 Episode 3
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00:00My daughter called me and she goes,
00:15Mommy, they arrested Sheila.
00:18She goes, start watching your TV.
00:20The new development in what is a shocker of a story
00:24that had eluded Florida investigators for nearly 30 years,
00:27but this morning, they're saying they finally cracked the cold case
00:31and now know who was behind that frightening clown costume
00:34in the murder of a 40-year-old woman.
00:41My name is Mark Anderson, sir.
00:43I'm an investigator with the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office.
00:45Yes, sir.
00:46Your wife has been placed under arrest for first-degree murder.
00:50Once Sheila was placed under arrest, I approached Mike Warren.
00:56Are you all right, sir?
00:57No, sir, I'm not.
00:58Do you have questions about why your wife would be arrested
01:00for first-degree murder?
01:01I don't know what's going on.
01:03We're talking about the murder of Marlene Warren.
01:06Oh, no.
01:07At that point, we still didn't have sufficient information
01:11about Michael Warren's knowledge, planning, participation.
01:16We weren't able at that time to arrest him.
01:20Oh, my God.
01:21I didn't know if you wanted to tell us anything.
01:23You're not under arrest.
01:24I don't even want to talk.
01:25If Mike Warren was concerned about his current wife being arrested
01:33for shooting his first wife in the face,
01:36he's either a very good actor or it didn't bother him at all.
02:53From the very beginning, the detectives thought that Sheila Keene was the killer.
03:09We had already planned, with Paige McCann being the lead investigator from the sheriff's office, that she was going to be the one to attempt to interview Sheila.
03:24Do you go by Sheila or Debbie?
03:31Debbie.
03:32Okay.
03:32Did you ever get your name legally changed to Debbie now?
03:36Do you just go by both?
03:37Is Debbie your middle name?
03:39It's a nickname.
03:39Oh, nickname.
03:40Okay.
03:43And are you currently living in a place in Virginia here?
03:48And then you guys own a restaurant together still?
03:50Or did you sell that?
03:55I mean, I don't know.
03:56I don't really, I mean, these questions you're asking me.
03:59I'm just trying to get a background.
04:01Yeah, I mean, I really don't want to talk to you.
04:03Okay.
04:04Do you want to know what you're charged with?
04:05Yeah.
04:06Okay.
04:08You're charged with the first-degree murder, okay, of Marlene Warren.
04:13So that's what you're, you were indicted in Palm Beach County.
04:16And so that's, that's the actual charge.
04:18So I didn't do it.
04:20So that's the end of the story.
04:21I'm not talking to you.
04:23Okay.
04:23So you don't want to talk.
04:24You don't want to give your side of the story as to what happened.
04:31Okay.
04:35Paige's goal was to interview Sheila if Sheila was willing to give a statement.
04:40She was not.
04:43She didn't want to engage in any sort of conversation.
04:47She said nothing.
04:51So they'll be in the transport you to the jail, okay?
04:53Okay.
04:57I'd say it was very rewarding for us to make an arrest 27 and a half years after the murder occurred.
05:05And being able to tell the victim's son, that was the good part of it for sure.
05:15When they came and told me that they have the person in custody that killed my mother,
05:25the emotions and feelings I had bottled up are coming out.
05:29And it was just overwhelming.
05:31But it was the most exciting time that I had in three decades.
05:36I needed closure.
05:40I needed truth.
05:43Everybody was calling me from the newsroom.
05:45Mike, did you hear what's going on?
05:46They're arresting Sheila.
05:48They're bringing her back to Florida.
05:49And I'm like, what?
05:50You're saying that you liked Mike and Sheila from the beginning.
05:55Why is Sheila the only one who's being arrested?
05:59A major break tonight in a 27-year-old unsolved mystery.
06:02Police in Florida arresting a female suspect in what had been called the killer clown case,
06:07accused of killing a woman while dressed as a clown, then marrying the victim's husband.
06:12When Mike married Sheila, my jaw hit the floor.
06:15I thought, how disrespectful.
06:16Here is the lady that they say is the killer clown, and she is smiling in her mugshot.
06:24So we see that in the newsroom, and we're like, oh my God.
06:30Really?
06:31Smile.
06:32In the mugshot.
06:34Want any water?
06:35Anything?
06:36Anything green?
06:37Kiss?
06:37I don't even want to talk to my husband.
06:39Okay.
06:39You want to talk to your husband?
06:40Mm-hmm.
06:41Okay.
06:42All right.
06:46Hey, where are you?
06:53The news and everything's at our house, so I left and came over here.
06:58Are you okay?
06:59Oh, yeah, I'm fine.
07:01You know, one way or another, I'm going to get you out of there.
07:04Oh, I ain't worried about it.
07:06I ain't done shit.
07:07I ain't worried about it.
07:08I know that.
07:10I'll be telling you.
07:11I can't believe they're doing this shit.
07:13There was no credible evidence linking Sheila to this murder.
07:24You know, I look at it as, you know, almost as a puzzle, and jamming pieces into the puzzle
07:30that don't fit.
07:30And it was conviction at all costs.
07:37Miss Keen Warren's case had, you know, nothing to do with guilt or innocence.
07:44You know, it was a media case for the state.
07:48As state attorney, I'm the chief prosecutor for the county.
07:52It's my decision whether someone gets prosecuted.
07:56Sheila Keen Warren thought that she had escaped this.
07:59She ran away.
08:00She changed her name, changed her hair color, and thought it was just mission accomplished.
08:07Well, eventually, the evidence she left behind did her in.
08:11The defendant in this case, Miss Sheila Keen Warren, has been indicted for first-degree
08:18murder with a firearm.
08:20The potential penalty in this case is life in prison and potentially the death penalty.
08:25The decision was filed as we would be seeking the death penalty.
08:31This clearly was a premeditated murder.
08:34We were so outraged by how not only she committed this heinous crime, but that she was able to
08:39hide and live her best life, getting away with it for so many years, 27 years.
08:44And that, to me, was a crime on top of a crime.
08:48We were so outraged by how not she committed to a crime.
08:50We were so outraged by how not it was supposed to be.
08:53We were so outraged by how not it was supposed to be.
08:54Well, we were so outraged by how not it was supposed to be.
08:55Hey, baby.
08:57Hey.
08:59Don't cry, baby.
09:01Don't cry, baby.
09:04I'm all right.
09:05I'm fine.
09:06Well, quit crying.
09:09I'm not.
09:11Yes, you are.
09:12you all right yeah
09:15i just don't like you in there i know i feel helpless i know
09:25i know but i'm doing everything i can on the outside everything
09:31i do not believe in the death penalty i think it's archaic
09:42the fact that with how little evidence the state had
09:49was comfortable executing this woman was absolutely disgusting
09:53i think the state assumed she knew something and that by hanging the death penalty
10:01over her head
10:02you know she would provide information we're gonna beat it so
10:08you didn't do nothing don't worry about nothing
10:11i need you a thousand percent i made you too
10:16i made you too
10:18my name is eric spikine
10:27i'm a forensic chemist here in fort lauderdale
10:31my work involves the analysis of firearms flight path of bullets footwear tire tracks
10:39any evidence that can be left behind at a crime scene
10:41that could get to who did it how it was done and where it was done
10:46in this case i was contacted by the defense to look at the crime scene evidence
10:51specifically relating to possible fibers
10:57what changed in 2017 that led the state to charge sheila keane warren was forensic evidence
11:05uh two things a fiber and dna evidence originally there was evidence collected from the scene that involved a series of balloons and a ribbon tied to those balloons that the killer had delivered to the door and then left behind
11:20using the cold case grant money the analyst at the lab went back to look at the evidence that was left by the clown to see is there something that got missed tangled up in the curly ribbons at the base of the balloons was a fiber
11:38the fiber not being found in 1990 is a strange twist of events because it had been examined by detectives it had been examined by local csi people it had been examined by fingerprint experts and yet they don't find the fiber it's very very strange and and i would say suspicious
11:45it's my understanding that the fiber wasn't found in 1990 because that close examination with the use of a high-powered microscope was it used it was more of the naked eye examining
11:52people. It had been examined by fingerprint experts and yet they don't
11:56find the fiber. It's very very strange and and I would say suspicious. It's my
12:03understanding that the fiber wasn't found in 1990 because that close
12:07examination with the use of a high-powered microscope wasn't used. It was
12:11more of the naked eye examining. The prosecution said that they had a
12:17trifecta. Fibers that were recovered at the crime scene. Fibers were recovered
12:22from the car and fibers that were recovered and found in Sheila's
12:27apartment. And all this matches the wig that was sold at the spotlight
12:32Capizio and they could build this narrative so that these pieces of
12:37physical evidence would tie it all together nicely. A little bow on top of
12:41it. If an association was made between the fiber from the balloon string and the
12:47fiber from the wig, that would create perhaps what you would call a
12:52breakthrough or a crack in the case, cracking it open. But the killer's
12:58clown costume, the wig, neither were ever recovered. The wig that they
13:03compared it to wasn't the wig the clown was wearing. It was a wig that PBSO
13:07bought. So it's, it's just junk science.
13:12It's not that much. As prosecutors from the moment of Sheila's arrest, we were ready to go forward and prove our case.
13:18as prosecutors from the moment of sheila's arrest we were ready to go forward and prove our case
13:41but there was more of a focus on interviewing additional people
13:47because sometimes people slip up and make admissions a former employee of bargain motors
13:53told the palm beach county sheriff's office there was another car involved in the murder of marlene
13:59warren that you guys don't even know about but i know where it is it's in the canal
14:07so we're recording now right yeah and you're not gonna believe what you find in me
14:13palm beach county sheriff sent their divers there put it on the bottom
14:26those canals are deep they're like 20 25 foot this is two and a half decades after the murderer
14:32the car was found in a canal they craned them out and everything they're told there's going to be
14:46clown paraphernalia this could be the piece of evidence that brings all of it together
14:52there was evidence of sheila purchasing the clown outfit but it was never located so for me it was
15:02more like get that piece of the puzzle and make the justice happen what's in this car a whole lot of
15:08nothing i don't think they found anything you know anything worthwhile
15:15it was a big dead end
15:26this is uh detective bill williams and this will be an interview with a sheila keene you know anybody
15:32has a white library have you ever been in a white library have you ever seen a liberon's over at mike's
15:54uh
16:00i'm tiffany roy and i'm a forensic dna expert here in south florida
16:04i review cases that are going to be offered as evidence in criminal courts florida is a death
16:10penalty state there's a strong propensity toward conviction and so it's very difficult for criminal
16:17defendants here some of the most important pieces of evidence in this case were hairs recovered
16:24from inside of an abandoned car in a wendix ski parking lot
16:30so there were two hairs found in the car that were of evidentiary value
16:33the first the fbi indicated that sheila's dna was on the hair but when our expert looked at it we
16:40found out that the majority of the dna on the hair 80 was from a man
16:46the hair that had the mixed profile on it that was majority male was certainly a concern
16:52and you really want a single source profile from a hair root if you're trying to find who's the
16:58perpetrator uh the the unknown male would be equally as culpable as the female contributor
17:05and in this instance they didn't really look very closely into that male profile
17:11in regard to the second hair i think it should have been deemed inconclusive this was mitochondrial dna
17:21four percent of u.s caucasians have the same exact mitochondrial dna for that second hair
17:30which means could have belonged to one in 25 people they have two hairs and that's the evidence
17:37they have and neither hair could be conclusively linked to sheila keen it's just circumstantial
17:44evidence stacked on circumstantial evidence stacked on circumstantial evidence but the state doesn't
17:50care the state says there's a dna match that sheila keen committed this murder
18:02okay we are here on the record would you please state your name sir uh donald james carter did you
18:08ever see anybody else driving the car sir levarin did everybody in the shop drive it no basically only
18:14four people who knew the car was there did you ride in the car never so the only people that you
18:20saw inside the car was mike warren and sheila keen yes did you ever ask mike warren or sheila keen about
18:26that car mike warren he's just no idea she did it i don't know nothing about it
18:31i'm sure if you talk to any of the other investigators involved in the case
18:43the most frustrating bang your head against the wall part of this case is that we were unable to charge
18:51michael warren we are often able to successfully prosecute the person that arranges the crime
18:59they're not physically present but they're the one that puts it together so michael warren
19:04remained an active suspect in the case another investigator and i went up to virginia several
19:11months after the arrest took place strange things happen when you're investigating murder cases
19:19is maybe we would get lucky and find somebody that either mike or debbie
19:27mentioned something about the murder back in 1990 we did not get that lucky
19:37but when sheila was in prison i remember interviewing a young woman she told us that mike fancied her
19:50the warren residence needed to be cleaned and mike would pay her to clean it
19:57and she said that when she went there mike came into the bedroom and guided her to the bed and told
20:05her that he wanted her in a sexual way and this was just a week after his wife had been arrested for
20:13murder to me that reflected on his character or his lack of character
20:26what did you believe about that his attitude towards mike i know she went through his phones before
20:32like i know that they had issues cheating before he's that type of man he always wants more and more
20:37and wants his cake and to eat it too type thing and i think she knows that but she thought that she
20:42could have him on a leash
20:51what's going to happen when i came to florida for the trial i figured it was going to be maybe a few
21:09months you know a year tops i was living in iowa at the time but i moved here and
21:17the trial was taking longer than we expected and they couldn't give us a an answer i got to go to
21:25a trial by myself with no family i was on my own
21:36joey is alone he's an island and that must feel so isolating for reporters we're all on the edge of
21:44our seat and every little development we're like oh my god but you see joey and this isn't a show for
21:51him that was his mom i had to come here for a trial that took six years through the process i lost
21:59everything i couldn't even support myself i had to become homeless all the way through it was it was
22:08nothing but an uphill battle of trying to overcome every obstacle that come my way
22:18but i knew i had to stand for my mother
22:38this is all being recorded now okay okay can i get your full name sir yes jeffrey libby okay miss
22:50libby why don't you fill me in what you heard when you get high profile cases you get jailhouse snitches
22:59for a year after the murder actually occurred a prisoner in maine they called the authorities and
23:06said look i got information on this murder mr ed barnes said that he was hired as a hitman to kill a
23:12woman at her home in rowington dressed as a clown in broad daylight it stated that he was hired by a guy
23:19that ran bargy motors in west palm this is detective bill williams of the palmish county sheriff's office
23:42to be an interview with jeffrey liby in maine state prison up in thomaston maine
23:50in 1991 detective bill williams flew to maine and they spoke to jeffrey libby who had information about
24:00marlene warren's death which was so telling how credible this information was they got a lot of leads
24:09and then they'd fly all over all over the country for all these leads when did you first sit down
24:14and actually discuss with you this case in south part about the clown 827 828 ed bar
24:24was a career criminal who we know without question was in palm beach county at the time of marlene warren's
24:33death basically what he told me was that this guy had offered him a substantial amount to kill
24:43his wife he said that the car that was used was from bargain motors and that it was lent to him by the
24:52same guy that hired him story goes this guy ed bar who's incarcerated in new england tells a cellmate
25:02craziest thing i've ever done is kill a guy's wife in florida he stated that uh broad daylight he
25:12dressed up as a clown went up to this residence where this woman was living knocked on the door
25:19and she opened the door he pointed a gun to her face shot her in the face it wasn't given a lot of
25:27uh serious consideration it seemed the detectives were very dismissive of it
25:35sometimes inmates mouth off for cred or to to get you know reputation for being a bad guy you know and
25:44then sometimes the inmate who supposedly hears it has the incentive to gain some kind of a benefit in
25:52their own sentence you have to follow up on these tips but it was clear that he was making up most of
26:00what he had to say
26:16the person who shot marlene warren was a professional just based on how the murder was you know committed
26:24and how the person slowly and calmly walked away it was definitely a professional
26:32marlene came to me one time and she asked my ex-husband and i how we would know if somebody
26:39was putting a hit out on her and my husband he said are you afraid of somebody and she said yeah i
26:47just have this uneasy feeling like i'm being stalked
26:55did she ever make any comments to you that she thought maybe her husband was after her or i can get
27:00her or anything at one point she said diane do you think mike could really have me killed and
27:10i said well what are you talking about she said i just i don't trust in any way shape or form anymore
27:17she said one of these days i think he's going to put a contract on me
27:23she was right somebody wanted her dead
27:40she was right before a criminal case goes to trial we have the pretrial hearings
27:51it's almost a blueprint for how the case is going to look from both sides from the prosecution
27:57and the defense for the prosecution that's this evidence must be included because this is integral
28:04to the case and for the defense it's you got to toss this evidence out
28:08so i start covering some of these pretrial hearings they are passionate arguments from
28:16brilliant attorneys who have a lot invested in this these are like gladiators in a courtroom
28:23and sheila comes to court for that sheila was very confident in the evidence very confident in her
28:29innocence and you know she was ready to go she basically sat in silence and showed no emotion
28:37or anything and michael warren never came to court and i'm sure he probably was a little afraid to
28:45come to court because he might be next
28:53in the pretrial hearings the defense wanted the testimony of the clerks from the spotlight capizio
29:02to be inadmissible for a number of reasons these are the employees who say that they sold a clown
29:09costume and clown makeup to a woman shortly before the murder we called the witnesses from spotlight
29:17capizio we had court hearings and they testified the ladies positively identified sheila keen as the
29:25woman that had come to the door to buy the outfit for the defense that photo evidence and the
29:31identification of sheila in that photo evidence is going to be a big problem back in 1990 they showed
29:41the photo array to the two women from the costume store one of the women said most like and pointed to
29:48sheila and the other one wavered and pointed to another woman and said she also looks like the
29:56person i saw so it wasn't a definitive identification the state in no way can prove that the costume bought
30:03at spotlight was the costume bought by the murderer they never found a clown costume and not one of the
30:11four eyewitnesses to marlene warren's shooting described a costume that matched the costume that
30:19was purchased from spotlight what do you remember about the color of the costume one side was a pink
30:25and the other side was like an orange and gold deborah small described the costume uh that she sold
30:33as being yellow orange on one side and a candy pink color on the other side this does not match a single
30:39description given by one of the four eyewitnesses to the crime the defense is still picking apart
31:00everything that the prosecution says they have on sheila they are dissecting it especially the eye
31:07eyewitness accounts from people in the home when this occurred joey and his friends wendell mindy
31:14and jeannie okay this this guy in the classroom you're pretty sure it was a man he didn't have breasts
31:24he looked like he was a little bit built it's definitely male though it wasn't a female man
31:31you saw this guy standing out there this person standing at the door right how tall would you say
31:42uh well he's got the height of wendell and wendell like he's about six foot
31:51you had four eyewitnesses identify the shooter as over six feet tall three of four eyewitnesses
32:04identify the shooter as a man sheila is short she's not six feet they could have had her stand up in
32:10court and you could ask the jury does that look like a six foot man to you no so that was going to be a
32:17big problem as we chipped away at the case based on the evidence it was just impossible that sheila
32:26keen ward committed this crime
32:35the defense is trying to get every piece of physical evidence that they say that they have on sheila
32:41tossed out they're going to hang their hat on an audit that was done of how evidence was stored in
32:49the sheriff's office where bags containing evidence are in bad condition in sheila's case there were
32:58open bags of evidence torn bags of evidence i mean it was a complete disaster
33:05it's defense 101 when you have a cold case to argue that the evidence is spoiled that it's
33:13contaminated it's true that the evidence bags came open and some of the evidence was exposed to the air
33:20and so it did give some life to the defense's arguments that the evidence should be suppressed
33:28my understanding is the fiber evidence was the main piece of evidence that allowed an arrest or a
33:34warrant for arrest to happen in the case when you have a lack of attention to detail in rip bags where
33:41it's been opened at least three or four times by different people the fact that you could get across
33:47contamination of a tiny little fiber is obvious that could explain how the balloon fiber got on there
33:55this is potentially key pieces of evidence that's going to mean someone goes to jail for the rest of
34:01their life or is found not guilty so that is very strong argument the evidence on this needs to have
34:07been preserved perfectly and it was the opposite of that the defense has a field day
34:22the defense wanted some important pieces of evidence excluded from trial saying that items had been
34:32contaminated the problem for us really was the death of the main police officer who claimed to be
34:41the defense wanted some important pieces of evidence excluded from trial saying that items had been
34:46contaminated the problem for us really was the death of the main police officer who collected the evidence
34:54so because that breaks the chain of custody we were at risk of losing everything based on the way the
35:01arguments had gone in court it was a real possibility that the fiber evidence was going to be excluded
35:07the case looks like it could result in the ultimate injustice
35:10an acquittal i i couldn't i just couldn't good conscience let that happen we needed to make a deal
35:19the state's very concerned about their ability to prove a case or their concern they perceive with
35:24trial you know our client might be acquitted you know they knew what they were doing when they gave this
35:30incredible sweetheart deal it was a way to save face
35:52throughout my career with the state attorney's office it's always been our office policy
35:57to include victims families in your resolutions
36:03out of nowhere they call me and say this is the state's attorney's office and there's a plea on the
36:09table they tell me what it is and i tell them i don't like it it's not enough
36:19victims are important to us their families are important to us and the goal is to come to a
36:24mutually agreeable resolution
36:29this is an incredibly hard decision that he is faced with when they say we think that this plea bargain
36:37is the best way forward what do you think joey they said he needed a an answer right away that day
36:45i was lost you know i didn't know what to do how to do it
36:50he wants to do right by his mom and the memory of marlene but he also has to do what's right for him
36:58as he wants to move forward with his life he doesn't have anybody to consult with i can't imagine
37:09when i received the call from the state's attorney's office
37:13i pondered on it for three days i didn't want that agreement but then i see their case is falling
37:22apart it was a mess i had to just take the plea because i just wanted it a conviction just like them
37:33at the end of the day joey aarons was very understanding and ultimately he was infinitely
37:42grateful that there would be closure and that there would be a guilty plea nothing sure i admit i did it
37:52i just knew they didn't say it i just knew
37:55we would lose if we went to trial she would walk i was not going to have that
38:06i got a call mike i think you got to get over to the courthouse right now something's going on with
38:12sheila i run into the courtroom and they're bringing sheila out and i'm thinking is she going to take a
38:23plea is she really going to take a plea one of the most bizarre and closely followed mysteries in
38:29south florida the suspect sheila keen warren has taken a plea deal offered by prosecutors we learned
38:35today there will be no trial and this was all unexpected miss keen warren the defendant herein
38:42will agree to withdraw her previously in her plea of not guilty in her plea of guilty of second
38:47degree murder and are you in full agreement with all those terms yes we really began to discuss
38:54the resolution of the case to go back and forth about what's acceptable went back and
38:59forth back and forth and ultimately all the parties decided that 12 years in the department of
39:04corrections would be doable and accepted by joey aarons i wanted a plea of murder and although this
39:12was a first degree premeditated murder case i would be okay with second degree murder because it's
39:17still murder i wanted her sheila keen warren to have that scarlet letter of m on her chest for the
39:23rest of her life sheila keen was willing to plead guilty and accept a 12-year sentence in the department
39:28of corrections and she pled to second degree murder with a firearm do you still wish to uh plead guilty and
39:36have me impose a sentence as i won in the plea agreement yes okay i was shocked gobsmacked how can
39:43you go from a death penalty case to now we're gonna let her do a plea for second degree murder and there's
39:51going to be time served in florida the only legal sentence for first degree murder is either a sentence
39:58of life in prison or a sentence of death for it to be a legal sentence she had to plead to the next
40:03lesser included crime which was second degree murder the state looks for a conviction they got
40:08one but it's a shitty one that's not closure for the family or nothing that's a joke
40:15this is the uh the son of available he is judge mr aarons do you wish to make any type of statement
40:23um the only thing i want to say is
40:27all through this trial i didn't see any remorse do you have anything else that you wanted to say this is
40:32your opportunity if you'd like sir god be with her thank you sir good luck to you all thank you
40:51good evening everybody the defense team tells me that sheila keen warren did not enter this plea because
40:56she did it they say she just didn't want to take her chances at a jury trial sheila did not want to
41:04plead guilty because you know she's innocent and maintains her innocence but with good behavior she
41:14was looking at spending about 16 more months in prison it's hard to say no she wanted to go home
41:21after all these years of denying it the murderer finally fessed up and admitted what we all knew
41:28that she killed this poor innocent victim marlene warren she has nothing to prove to anyone
41:36you know she's just happy that her friends and her loved ones you know know she's innocent and she'll
41:42be going home soon nobody has said that she's innocent but the defense attorney sheila in her own words
41:49told the judge she was guilty and that she was pleading guilty because she was guilty and she said that
41:55under oath sheila keen warren wanted marlene warren's life and she had it for a while she was able to
42:04accomplish it for a while but now time is up and if we have enough evidence we would certainly pursue
42:11it against michael warren the case is never totally closed
42:20in my eyes ain't justice she lives getting out i think joe should think the same way
42:28i wouldn't want the killer of my mother getting out and then i'm sure she's going to go live
42:35the rich life and then she's going to end up with everything that marlene got that woman worked hard
42:43for everything she ended up with or what she had
42:51so it was all just taken away
42:54i'm glad it's over with for joey's sake because that boy has gone through hell but to me
43:01no i think the courts failed him and marlene
43:08i go to her grave site and i don't smoke anymore but i'll take coffee and pour a little bit on the
43:14ground talk to marlene i miss you i love you you know everything's done now you can finally rest in peace
43:31so
43:36so
43:40so
43:44so
43:48so
43:58I left Florida and I moved to the mountains.
44:14The nature has just grounded me and it feels great to be at peace.
44:21My thoughts on Sheely King getting out is just overwhelming.
44:30The one person that did not pay for this crime is Michael Warren.
44:37He didn't do one day of jail, but really I have to let go, I have to let it go.
44:48My mom was a beautiful person.
44:50She was my world.
44:52There was a bit of justice for my mother because we did get the killer.
45:00I knew she would be very proud of me today because I'm proud of myself.
45:04You know, if I'm in a situation, I always think, what would mom do?
45:12My son is at the age that I was at when I lost my mother.
45:17I want my son to grow up knowing his grandmother still lives within me and I want him to see
45:25that through me.
45:26I want you to see that through me.
45:27I want you to see that through me.
45:32I want you to wait.
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