- 7/8/2025
Mean Girl Murders Season 3 Episode 3
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00:00the cookie factory was a big place everybody worked there did I like a lot of people there
00:17no but I put on a smile people find me intimidating I had no respect for her I
00:26think she was a little bit of a bitch at first she thought she was the boss of the group the
00:32cookie factory was becoming pretty hostile 9-1-1 Center what's your emergency she kept
00:41screaming she's gone she's gone I hate her she's a monster I wish I never called her a friend
00:56the fact that a friend could do this to another friend is uh just incomprehensible
01:15Perry is a small town it's in upstate New York they have about 6,000 people who live there
01:26and it's you know for all intents and purposes pretty idyllic
01:29Perry is similar to a lot of small towns but at the center was their cookie factory
01:38the town smells of cookies as soon as you drove to the the plant and opened your door I mean
01:46there it was smack in the face
01:47they make every kind of cookie you can think of if you're looking for cream filled cookies
01:57they're making them down to the little crushed pieces of cookies that are going in your favorite
02:02ice cream
02:02the cookie factory was a big place it was easy to get hired I mean everybody worked there
02:12it was a great job with good benefits good hours and a lot of the employees there were women and just
02:21like the cookies the drama here gets served up hot and fresh they go from high school straight to the
02:29factory so they would still bring what they did in high school into the factory as far as like drama
02:36rumors you know starting problems between people because you know they didn't like
02:41that they were friends or they didn't like that they were talking to that person because they were mad at them
02:52but across the lot from the cookie production line the flatbread plant offers a refuge
02:59here the baked goods are savory and for the most part the drama stays off the menu
03:07I love flatbread because it's totally different from being at the main plant there's no fighting there was no
03:16arguing and that's where I met Donna she was 18 I was like this girl's cool I mean tattoo you know young
03:28spunky it was like me so I saw myself we became friends and then Jordan came in
03:36I was hired at the flatbread plant in 2008
03:45the first time I met Jordan oh the attitude like people thought I had an RBF resting bitch face
03:56no this girl had a resting bitch face yeah
03:58I get this a lot uh people find me intimidating I put a front on just because I had heard about Heather
04:07I was told stay away from Heather you know she's bad news and don't get wrapped up in her business
04:12and a lot of people didn't like Heather and Donna they say that they ran the flatbread they acted like
04:20they were bosses but getting to know them I was like what are you guys talking about they're they're
04:25sweet so fast forward two days later and that's the first time I actually talked to Jordan a lot of
04:33people say you know when you see somebody or with that resting face don't just make assumptions
04:41yeah I did that we became close friends like I wanted to protect her I was the mother hen and I would
04:50give my opinion and I would hear okay mom with the eye roll Jordan was funnier than just her facial
05:01expressions and just stuff that came out of her mouth where's the next party but that was my job
05:07I was a social butterfly Heather Donna and Jordan quickly become inseparable but the queens of the
05:18flatbread make room for one more Kira moved in next to my parents and she was 31 she needed a job
05:30and I'm like hey put it in your application where I work and she did she's tough straight shooter like
05:41when something came out of her mouth she's serious I think Kira was a little bit of a bitch of her
05:49she thought she was the boss of the group I found her intimidating if I didn't do something that it was
05:55her way then I get yelled at that's not how you're supposed to do it this is how you're supposed to do
06:00it Kira was tough she was stern but she also had a funny bone she was mean but I got to know her
06:13and then eventually you know we became friends
06:16the trio becomes a quartet and the click is complete life in flatbreads is good
06:31it's late 2008 everything is going great these four are loving working there together there's no drama
06:39it's super chill
06:43and then they get the news that they are being moved to the main factory across the street
06:49this is not good news for this crew
06:53the main plan was like going back to high school so you got to tweak your personality you have to
07:02did I like a lot of people there no but I put on a smile
07:06I mean you had your higher ups and you had the boomers
07:14they were a group of you know five six people they're the older generation they've had been there
07:20for 20 plus years they were going to retire there for decades the boomers have ruled the factory floor
07:28they outlast managers outwit rivals and they know what it takes to survive
07:36their ringleaders are Pam and Gina now they didn't call themselves boomers I don't think they
07:42particularly liked being called boomers but this is what the younger girls were calling them
07:46they certainly do not like change they'd been pretty much running the show for a long time
07:53management respected them and trusted them they knew how everything was supposed to work and they
07:58wanted the factory to continue running the way that they wanted it to and to these boomers
08:04donna kira heather and jordan aren't just the new generation they're a direct threat
08:19i mean a lot of times i felt like it was a competition between the boomers and the millennials
08:25just because we were younger beautiful we had energy
08:28i think that they thought we were there to replace them
08:38but boomer in chief pam knows the best way to fight back is to stir the pot
08:45pam was she was quite a handful a lot of times pam would uh go to heather and say hey did you hear
08:53what jordan said about you and heather would come at me and be like did you say this about me and i'm like
08:57no i didn't so it would be back and forth like that i'm the type of person that actually takes things
09:05to heart i'd get really upset and i'd be mad i'd be pissed off all day you really couldn't talk about
09:12anything personal or anything you did over the weekend uh because then if you talked about what
09:17you did over the weekend then the entire plant would know that was pam she loved to turn us against
09:25each other and cause trouble this rivalry between the boomers and the millennials it was not good
09:35tensions are extremely high in the main factory and then management brings in another new girl
09:43in 2009 25 year old desiree withy enters the factory
09:48first time i saw desi i was on break she was very beautiful very beautiful
09:57she came in and i looked at her and she looked at me and i could tell either
10:02she'd be your best friend or she'd kick your ass
10:04things were definitely about to get changed up at the cookie factory
10:18even though it seems like just workplace politics there were very real stakes and very real consequences
10:25to the attitudes within the cookie company and unfortunately the consequences ended up being deadly
10:43once desi came to the plant we clicked we were two piece in a pod
10:48within months we were wifey calling each other wifey
10:53kira was mean to a lot of people especially the new people that would come in
10:58but when desi started it wasn't like that with her she wasn't mean to desi at all
11:04her joining our group was fantastic we all hung out as much as we could we'd go down to the bar and get
11:11a few drinks you know we could do things that friends do
11:18desi was fun she was a single mother she always had something to talk about
11:24desi she always walked with her head held high shoulders back
11:29desi was the type of person you didn't want to mess with
11:32and desi was the type of person who would get us all onto the dance floor every song
11:37and it would be nothing but dancing all night
11:49not only is she popular but desi quickly rises to become the factory's star employee
11:58i feel like desi could fix anything in that factory
12:00like you show her one thing and she knew how to do it right then and there
12:07bob the builder had nothing on that girl
12:11management loved her but i could understand why some of the boomers would feel very threatened by
12:15her position there they've worked there for a long time and things seem very different now that desi's
12:20around
12:24and desi isn't the only member of the group upsetting the boomers and their leader pam
12:31pam liked the scale where when the cookies come up they pack into the box you have to weigh it
12:40when it comes down it weighs and then you go up that was her job
12:46pam loved it pam loved it so pam is furious when she discovers that donna has been given her coveted
12:56role weighing the cookies and now she's in this cold room putting cream in the cookies and she feels
13:02slighted with the change and that's one thing about pam she was vocal and she was not happy she would throw
13:11fit pam was there for a very very long time years so she felt entitled she felt like whatever she said
13:21should go so she complains enough to management and suddenly she gets her job back
13:31so now management's trying to figure out where do we place donna and as a huge shock to kira
13:35donna is given kira's job packing the cookies
13:38in the main plant factory floor drama can turn even the closest allies into enemies
13:47kira was upset for the fact that it was donna that had gotten the job kira didn't think she was
13:53qualified to do the job donna and kira they're very strong at it they didn't really agree on a whole lot
14:01especially when it came to like work i think there was part of kira that felt like donna was breaking
14:07girl code like donna shouldn't have even accepted the offer of this job it's sad because they were all
14:13so close and then something like this really just started breaking them apart i mean kira was so furious
14:20with donna she wouldn't even speak to her kira sees desi and heather still chatting with donna she
14:28feels like they're betraying her i mean it doesn't take long for a group to fall apart when there is
14:34a rift like that kira really moves away from the millennials entirely she's now taking her breaks
14:40going out to smoke with pam and the boomers and falling in with their crew
14:51the group of four is now down to three and the boomers are poised to finish them off for good
14:56one of the mixers called me baby girl and i gave him a hug
15:05and the next thing i know we're sleeping together
15:11and it's like no no that's not true he's married to my aunt it's heartbreaking i'm married like i don't
15:22need this getting back to my husband there were rumors a lot of rumors if you were talking to a male
15:32at all you were sleeping with him pam was definitely behind a lot of the rumors kira and pam were now
15:39good friends pam would go directly to kira with information and then it would just go down the chain
15:47it's almost like pam and the boomers are making accusations intentionally to pick them off one by one
15:54and completely break down this group of millennials
16:03gossip stirs things up but if you really want to take someone down you go to management
16:10pam would go back to management with information that we were doing or you know what we supposedly
16:18shouldn't be doing or you know we're not working hard enough every time i turned around i was being
16:26pulled off that floor because i did something and it's like what do you mean but it's a write-up
16:33i look around donna would be getting written up for something jordan would be going into the office
16:43because something's going on desi she's as clueless as the rest of us and it just kept going every time
16:53i turned around something was was said that we did i believe that pam had started a war
17:03she always ran to management with information because she thought that we were there to replace them
17:12things were bad at the factory between the rumors the tension uh the gossip
17:19we didn't think anything could get any worse until it did
17:22it was july 2011 and we had to be in early that day
17:37by two o'clock i was asked to go into the office to see the plant manager
17:51i i just had this feeling so i kind of put on my resting bitch face and i just looked at them
18:07hr started her spiel which i didn't really care to hear her because i had no respect for her
18:24and she told me that i am no longer an employee of the cookie factory
18:32and i was stunned i was stunned and i go why she goes facial harassment
18:46and they're like you rolled your eyes i go i rolled my eyes then this whole plant should be fired
19:05again because everybody rolls their eyes i believe pam hated heather enough to get her fired
19:15she thought that she was causing too much problems between our group at the boomers
19:19and pam wanted heather gone i think the the main one was pam but of course pam's sweet sweet little boomer
19:33and nobody can be mad at her
19:37i told jordan i go girl you better you better watch yourself
19:43we're all brought in one after another we didn't see heather she was fired
19:48and then uh desi and i were pulled in the office and told that you know whispering is uh bullying
19:54and that's not tolerated i thought it was
20:08i was in my kitchen and jordan called me which i think it was around 11 o'clock
20:14and she said that she was fired heather is fired jordan is fired kira is hanging out with the boomers and
20:30now all that's left in terms of alliance really is donna and desi
20:34as the last two standing desi and donna know they need to stick together
20:45but a handsome new hire is all it takes to pull them apart
20:51josh was a good-looking man all the girls were you know hot and bothered you know by him
20:58donna had taken a liking into him first
21:05once she sealed him it was you know he's mine no you cannot talk to him like you cannot look at him
21:18so donna and josh had been seeing each other for a few months
21:27things didn't go right i believe josh had ended things
21:34after they broke up there was a rumor that desi had been sleeping with josh
21:37he always liked desi uh he took a liking in desi i mean they did start seeing each other for a
21:45little bit it wasn't really like a an announced relationship it was you know see where things go
21:54donna didn't really care for that and donna was not um a person that you want to mess with
22:00donna got distant after that she ended up hanging out more with pam and kira than with desi
22:17now the only one left in this once tight-knit group is desi
22:22everything is closing in on her at the cookie factory
22:24i think desi felt very lonely without our little group it was getting too much she wanted to get
22:33out of there she wanted to go to culinary school to be a baker but she never gets a chance to do that
22:49i think my neighbor i think she's dead on february 6 2016 at about 9 12 a.m a woman called 9-1-1
23:03okay why do you think she's dead she's laying on her bedroom floor and her lips were blue
23:11i was off duty at the time shopping with my family i gathered myself together i responded to the scene
23:17on borden avenue upon entering the residence i went to the first floor bedroom where the deceased
23:27was located what stood out to me was how brutal the attack was the victim was laying on her back
23:35she had marks all over her body she had incised wounds to her wrists her vaginal wall
23:43and she had bruising throughout her body the 911 caller identified the victim as desiree withy
23:54she was 33 years old
24:00she ultimately died from strangulation as far as we could tell the injuries to the pelvic region were
24:06sustained after she was dead although we recovered numerous cutting instruments from knives to scissors
24:17to box cutters we were never able to definitively say which one of those was used on the victim
24:25this was a deeply personal murder motivated by a severe hatred and we had to figure out who despises
24:32women enough to commit a crime like this
24:46one thing that we did notice at the scene was the way desiree's fingernails were cut back somebody
24:52would normally do that to themselves when someone is strangled the natural reaction of a human being is
24:58to scratch and when you scratch you peel up skin cells from the person that's strangling you
25:03it's likely that desiree's fingernails were cut in an effort to conceal evidence or a transfer of dna
25:10at this point we figured it was either an ex-boyfriend ex-spouse of some sort someone that has a
25:16personal vendetta this was definitely uh set forward to you know send a message
25:30we found out that desiree had two children uh ages two and six
25:35the six-year-old went to the child advocacy center to be interviewed
25:39she told us that she came downstairs and saw a woman in desi's room in the middle of the night
25:46and she heard crying in that room this person has her back to the door so she doesn't see her face
25:55they gave her some crayons and she was able to basically draw a jacket that had almost like a
26:03pink color to it and a white color all indications are the person that was wearing that jacket is the
26:09person that killed desiree with you
26:23i was upstairs getting ready and then my phone's ringing
26:34and instantly it was it's a blur from there um i remember falling down my stairs um
26:51wailing out and then i called heather
26:54she kept screaming she's gone she's gone i'm like no who what
27:03i go you're lying i go you are lying
27:10and she just kept saying she's gone she's gone she's gone
27:13it's just heartbreaking because she really was a beautiful person she was my sister
27:33relative to her and she was my sister who couldn't be trained to do it by the house
27:40that wasn't necessarily totally neighboring the California
27:44we learned that desiree worked at a baked good factory
27:46we interviewed several people that worked at the cookie factory
27:49i believe the cookie factory was place that was becoming pretty hostile for desi to be in
27:53investigator's car to give my statement i was questioned for a good two hours
27:58they asked me if i knew anybody that would want to hurt desi
28:03i knew somebody from the factory murdered her
28:09they looked at all the drama the clicks the suspensions all the things that had happened
28:20in the years since desi had worked there investigators spoke with pam and the other
28:25boomers and they were shocked to hear this news obviously they had their own workplace drama but
28:31certainly not enough to kill for investigators learned that donna felt betrayed by desi's short
28:39relationship with her ex josh donna and josh had split up they're now back together so they interviewed
28:47donna donna was honest with investigators she didn't like desi but she wouldn't kill her
28:55she had an alibi for the evening of desi's murder
28:59they didn't believe that she was involved so they had to let her go
29:04but they did find out that desi and josh had had this relationship
29:08and they really wanted to talk to josh about it
29:10josh may have a past with desi but he thinks there's another man they should be talking to
29:34you we have our company christmas priority and uh i hear that that's right and kira's fiance
29:49we're missing from the world
29:53kira who left the younger group after fighting with donna is now back in desi's life but for all the
29:59wrong reasons a gentleman by the name of larkin daniels formerly dated kira for approximately eight
30:06years he started ending his relationship with kira and kira was not taking that very well
30:15something happened at the christmas party that kira was upset about all i know is is that
30:21desi and larkin ended up staying up all night talking and that's all they did
30:34once the next work day came uh desi was online too uh you know just packing her cookies away row
30:40packing away and all of a sudden uh kira comes up to her and calls her a and starts screaming at her
30:48telling her how dare you a stamp all night talking to my boyfriend or my fiance at that time kira and
30:57larkin were broken up but they were still trying to see where things would go so kira made a scene
31:04she made a big scene to where she had to be literally escorted out the building
31:08the next man they talked to is kira's former fiancee larkin daniels
31:17what did you hear happen at work between the two of them um i just heard that
31:27kira made a lot of confrontation to her and she physically attacked her
31:31no i know shortly after they ended up blowing christmas shopping together i don't see here
31:37ever doing anything like that hurting someone or anything like that larkin was calm he was collected
31:45he was sad over the news but he did not show nervousness in any way larkin said that he believed
31:53that kira was never someone that could be responsible of this heinous crime
32:04investigators turn their attention back to the cookie factory and to desi's old friend kira
32:11i was doing neighborhood interviews and a female came out of a house on hope street
32:18and i said hi do you mind if i speak to you what's your name she told me kira kastenhuber
32:23you know knowing this i asked her if she would accompany me back to the pd so we could interview
32:30her a little bit further we want to know what happened she was one of my best friends and i loved
32:39you know we were very very close it's just very hard to hear that she's gone i don't know what
32:52what happened happened to her who do you think could have done that i don't know as far as i know
32:59she didn't have any enemies so that argument that you had with desi what was it really i just said you
33:08know i would love to kick the out of her you know but i would never hurt her no not at all
33:16kira admitted to being mad at desiree but denied ever being capable or ever wanting to harm desiree in
33:26any way she gave us a dna sample she gave us her telephone she gave us uh the keys to her car she
33:35was more than reasonable during the interview she seemed like a normal person would be upset
33:53that a friend of theirs had died
33:57at the end of the interview we we made the decision that we're not going to arrest her
34:00and we're going to let her go what happened the next morning changed everything with the case
34:069-1-1 center what's your emergency okay i know who killed the woman in carrie
34:24i don't know who killed the woman in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie
34:30in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie in carrie
34:34and that person had also tried killing themselves you need to be advised that she took a boatload of pills
34:41so she's not quite with it right now two responding officers went to the scene from rochester pd
34:48what they found was kira cast and huber the call was placed by kira's mother's friend
34:57kira was lying on an air mattress on the floor she was disoriented she was breathing heavily
35:03the officers said that kira was slurring her words but she did say to the responding officers a lot
35:08of things happened that shouldn't have happened and it's all my fault
35:12at this point ambulance arrives on scene uh transports kira to strong memorial medical
35:23center in rochester along with one of our investigators where kira was treated and evaluated
35:31as kira recovers investigators tear through her home while searching the laundry room we had found a
35:37pink and white jacket laying on top of a laundry basket that pink and white coat had been freshly
35:43washed and dried it's actually amazing how good the witness did of identifying the jacket because it
35:51looks very similar it's a really good job for a child it's better job than i could do for drawing that
35:58jacket then investigators find something even more chilling within various garbage cans we had found a
36:07torn up note in numerous pieces and that note was a to-do list if you will
36:16the checklist reads wear masks so no scratches
36:23try to get her in shower
36:26have her write suicide note
36:30give her sleeping pills if that doesn't work then it's her wrist
36:33bring both blades
36:40and then at the very bottom
36:43she writes be happy
36:54we also found it basically a series of suicide notes
36:57notes that appeared to be written by desi and they were found in kira cast and huber's trash
37:03actually kira had written the suicide notes as if they were written by desiree
37:10the sum and substance of the notes was that she was sorry for the person that she was and she is
37:18allegedly describing herself as a homewrecker and for that she was apologizing and she could not go on
37:24living anymore because of that
37:29despite all efforts to conceal this crime and dispose of any evidence during the medical exam of
37:34desiree one of desi's fingernails were found and on that fingernail was kira cass and huber's dna
37:40we had investigators at strong memorial hospital because the moment she was to be released
37:49from their care we were arresting her for the murder of desiree withy
38:00i heard what happened
38:03um the details of the crime was sickening it was disgusting
38:08i hate her she's a monster
38:15i wish i never called her a friend
38:19jordan called me and she's like she killed her excuse my language but she killed her i go who
38:31she goes kira and i just couldn't speak at that moment
38:41i couldn't sleep because all i could think about it was desi
38:46she took a mother there's two little girls that are growing up right now without their mother
39:04with the evidence stacked against her kira has no way out she pleads guilty to murdering her former
39:12friend the judge ultimately sentenced her to a minimum term of 15 years a maximum of her natural
39:17life the judge did make a statement to the effect that he hopes that the parole board does not release her
39:22the fact that a friend could do this to another friend is uh just incomprehensible
39:39i think kira was very jealous of desi because desi was happy and kira wasn't
39:49and larkin kira always thought that desi was gonna come and snatch him up
39:56i think she did this because nobody could have larkin
39:59i was heartbroken because i was thinking back of how close we were the pictures the camping and
40:14the barbecues and the vacations we did everything together
40:20kira took my best friend um she took my ride or die
40:36working at the cookie factory just seeing her it just made a bad day just turn into a good day
40:44she made a hard life easy and a little bit sweeter
40:57a piece of my heart died when desi died
40:59on the next mean girl murders pageantry is amazing pageantry is cool everyone wants to be the queen
41:17don't pick your favorite just yet clearly she had something special there was jealousy they had to go
41:23after her only a hollywood movie would have these kinds of details it's kind of crazy
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