Good Morning Britain’s Ed Balls in fiery clash with Tory MP for ‘waffling’ over welfare cuts

Watch a fiery clash between Good Morning Britain’s Ed Balls and Tory MP over welfare billSource: Good Morning Britain

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00:00Gareth Davies, don't go all waffly on us at this point in the interview.

00:05The legislation was very clear. It was changing the point system.

00:09It meant that somebody who could not wash below the waist and use the toilet

00:14would no longer get personal independence payments

00:18because they wouldn't get enough points in one category.

00:21That was very clear. That's what you supported.

00:24And that's what's now been removed by Labour, something that you regret.

00:28So for somebody in that situation, with those pit points,

00:33they would be losing personal independence payments if you were in power.

00:37That's what you've told us today is your commitment.

00:40I'm sorry, Ed.

00:42I think it's important for you to be clear.

00:44It isn't waffle. It is about reform.

00:47What you're talking about is cutting and slashing spending,

00:51and that's what Labour were desperate to do

00:52because they found themselves in this unsustainable financial position.

00:56What I'm talking about is reforming the system.

00:58You said that you supported the reforms.

01:01In fact, Kemi Bainock wanted the government to go further,

01:04and you've regretted them removing those reforms, which will cost money.

01:09So I'm saying to you, that means that you are going to continue

01:13to support those reforms, which has those implications for people

01:17who are currently getting pipped.

01:19They would lose it.

01:20You can't now say, oh, you know, reform, waffle,

01:23I don't want to answer the question.