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00:00You know, we did not check to see if he had any interaction with firefighters.

00:10We do know that he did contact the firefighters when they came on scene, and there was a discussion.

00:21So we're still in the process of investigating that part of it.

00:30So I'm in the blue in the back.

00:32Sheriff, talk to me about, you know, why you're sharing this Instagram post.

00:37Talk to us, you know, what does it look like when you're looking at this, what it symbolizes

00:41to your project?

00:42Well, we're trying to collect any and all information, and those social media posts are what we call

00:48open source information.

00:49So this is all in an effort to find out intent, to find out if there was any other, if there

00:57was a motive or whatever the case may be.

00:59And another question, we had some people that lived in the area of the evacuation cell

01:04last night for a shelter in place.

01:06They say they didn't get a phone call, they didn't get a text.

01:08How does your system work?

01:09Was there a text that went out, or how did you let people?

01:13Yes, absolutely.

01:14Part of our Kootenai Alerts system, we sent out a text, I believe a five-mile radius.

01:20And I encourage people who live or frequent the area to sign up for Kootenai Alerts.

01:28So...

01:29But an opt-in service?

01:30Yes.

01:31Yep.

01:32The gentleman in the blue.

01:33Sure.

01:34So the health insurance that you guys initiated, were they done, given by a relative, or a

01:39parent called you to check on him, or were they concerned about mental health?

01:43No, it was generally a reporting party who called and saw a vehicle that was either

01:49parked near their property, or on their property.

01:54One was a restaurant where he appeared to be residing at.

01:58He was asked to leave and he complied.

02:01So none of them that we have at this time were called in from a relative.

02:06They were called in from a property owner or passerby.

02:12The gentleman there in the...

02:14Sheriff, can you describe the weapon that you found next to it?

02:18It appears right now we have a shotgun that was used, but we're still processing the scene.

02:25So obviously a shotgun is not a sniper weapon?

02:28Correct.

02:29Do you know what kind of weapon that was used?

02:32Well, we're still processing the scene, but let me kind of set the scene for everybody.

02:38When you're in a rural area and you're heavily treed, heavily brushed, and when you're taking

02:47fire, then it just adds a whole different dynamic to the situation.

02:53So what was reported by people on scene, by peace officers on scene, that they believed

03:00that they were taking sniper fire?

03:02Yes.

03:03Yes.

03:04And that's where that is.

03:06Lady in the black.

03:07Hi.

03:08Was he a suspect before you found him or did he not identify him until after his friends

03:14were made?

03:15Can you give me that first part again?

03:16Was he a suspect prior to finding his body or were you not sure what people after his friends

03:22were made?

03:23We had information that we had an idea who that person might be.

03:27But we always defer to the coroner's office to make sure that we have a positive identification

03:32on the individual.

03:35People borrow people's car.

03:37People use people's phones.

03:41Yeah.

03:42So we always want to make sure that we have a positive identification before we make any

03:47type of a release, so.

03:51This lady and I.

03:53Are you able to identify yet if Wes was the person who called 911?

04:00Still under investigation.

04:03If that is the case, he did not use his real name.

04:07So, but it certainly will be part of the investigation, but we had an individual called, a male, and

04:16he did not use the suspect's name, so.

04:18And one more question, because I think I misunderstood.

04:21Did you say there was an interaction with first responders?

04:25There was an interaction with the firefighters.

04:27When they first arrived on the scene?

04:29Correct.

04:30What was that?

04:31It had something to do with his vehicle being parked where it was.

04:35So yeah.

04:36The gentleman, the blue, in the back.

04:39Sure.

04:40Can you tell us what type of bullets that were used in the attack arms for free firefighters

04:52that's not being in the .

04:55Right.

04:56We know that some rifled slugs were used, and a rifled slug is a pretty big projectile.

05:08Anybody know off the top of their head how many grains a rifled slug is?

05:12I don't know.

05:14I don't know.

05:15Okay, just one ounce.

05:16Yeah.

05:17So generally going to be a one ounce piece of metal.

05:21But we also have some fragmentation of something.

05:24So, so it's still early on.

05:27We, we have some smaller projectiles, and we don't know if that was a fragmentation of

05:33one of the rifled slugs or another weapon.

05:38Like I said, we are still processing that scene.

05:41The firefighters are putting water on it.

05:45So we're still processing that.

05:47Yes, sir.

05:48Sheriff, can you tell us how sophisticated you think this ambush was?

05:51Or do you think this was an interaction that went back?

05:54And one more thing, we were just right outside the scene, and we saw a firefighting vehicle

05:59come down with three completely flat tires.

06:02Were slights used?

06:03Was that part of the ambush?

06:06No, part, part, part of, um, once the, the rounds started to exchange back and forth,

06:12and when deputies got on scene, part of the, the theory was we don't want him to be able

06:18to circle back around and get into either one of the fire trucks or his own vehicle.

06:24So, deputies disabled the, the trucks, and they pushed over the suspect vehicle off the

06:31side of the mountain.

06:32I mean, that just gives you a sense of how chaotic the moment was.

06:36Oh, yeah.

06:37Yeah.

06:38So the suspect is on scene and elusive, wouldn't be able to circle back and use it.

06:43Right.

06:44And we, we just don't, you know, we just don't know in many cases, even if it's in an urban

06:49setting and a retail shopping center, um, how many suspects there are.

06:54Because we're going to get different information and we have to be able to evaluate that information

07:00to see what's credible.

07:02We always want to err on the side of caution.

07:05But, uh, initial reports were what there were more than one suspect.

07:11Right here in the.

07:12I just, I just want to make sure I'm completely clear on this.

07:14So at the moment, as things stand as far as the weapons go, you were confident that he

07:19used the shotgun.

07:20It's possible that he used another weapon.

07:22You're not absolutely sure and you don't know what another weapon would be.

07:25Is that right?

07:26Yeah.

07:27Yeah, we're, we're still processing the scene.

07:29So we know that there was a shotgun used.

07:31Absolutely.

07:32100%.

07:33We know that for sure.

07:34So.

07:35I'm sorry.

07:36This is what we asked.

07:37Do you have like survivalist training or any type of equipment?

07:41We don't, we cannot find any evidence that he has had any type of survivalist training.

07:48Now he did grow up in a, uh, from what we understand, he did grow up in a, uh, artist family

08:01and that, uh, they climbed trees.

08:04And we did report, we did have reports that, uh, he was shooting at first responders via a tree.

08:12So he does have experience, uh, climbing trees.

08:16I also just wanted to clarify, um, you had said in the previous press conference, we were

08:21talking about misinformation.

08:22It's kind of going off the beaten path, but, um, can you elaborate a bit on what that misinformation

08:28was?

08:29I guess it, it felt like you had said families were finding out.

08:34Yeah.

08:35I wanted to clarify that.

08:36Yeah.

08:37So what happened, um, fire fighting and EMS channels here in, in Kootenay County are,

08:46um, are not, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?

08:50They're not encrypted.

08:51Yeah.

08:52Um, law enforcement channels are encrypted.

08:54So pretty quickly there was, uh, audio of the help call that came out and was broadcasted

09:04on social media.

09:05And that's, uh, that is just, uh, you know, really, really hard on the families.

09:13Uh, had they heard that, and I don't know if they did or didn't, but had they heard that,

09:18they would be able to identify their voice of their loved one and, um, just make a chaotic

09:25situation more chaotic.

09:27So, um, that's, that's one of the, I just want to be clear.

09:31None of the families were notified through social media.

09:34I don't, I don't know.

09:35I wasn't involved in that part of it.

09:36Yeah.

09:37I, I do not know.

09:38Lady in the black there.

09:39Sure.

09:40In terms of just the timeline, I know they provided us with one already, but where does

09:45that interaction, that first interaction with firefighters fit there?

09:50They have that interaction.

09:51How soon after that is there gunfire?

09:55There was an interaction.

09:56So they arrived on scene.

09:59Um, the initial call was about approximately 1.20.

10:04They arrived on scene.

10:06I would, I'm going to guesstimate, but I would say probably about 13.50 or about, uh, 10 minutes

10:13until 2 o'clock.

10:19Somebody, any, go ahead.

10:23Um, one question I have is you mentioned when you were doing welfare checks, what were those

10:26interactions like?

10:27Was the suspect just acting normal?

10:29Was there anything off about it at all during any of those interactions?

10:32Was there anything that stuck out for those?

10:34Yeah, you know, he cooperated on, uh, on each one.

10:37He, um, he was told that, hey, the owner is asking you to leave.

10:42He left.

10:43Um, there are certain criteria that we have to meet to be able to engage in somebody's, uh,

10:52uh, wellbeing, and, uh, he did not meet those, that requirements at the time.

10:57So, yeah.

11:01Jeremy?

11:02Um, just for your body, is, is it in a condition where we can determine if you're seeing drugs

11:07or medication?

11:08That'll, that'll be, uh, part of the, the autopsy, yes.

11:13Do you remind people of how long it was here in Idaho, and also just, um, I know this is like a

11:18popular recreation area, so how many people just have to be involved that may have been out there

11:22in the middle of this hiking areas?

11:24Well, it, it is a popular trail, um, as far as how many people actually, uh,

11:31Lieutenant Klinkifuss, do you have any idea of how many people might use the, it's like 25 miles

11:37of trail up there.

11:38Yes, sir.

11:39On a Sunday afternoon, there could be a couple hundred.

11:40citizens up there, uh, folks use dirt bikes up there at night, mountain bikes, e-bikes,

11:44very popular.

11:45I don't know exactly how many were there.

11:47At that moment, there could have been several hundred on the mountain at that time.

11:50Were they rescue?

11:51Were law enforcement helping rescue them all now?

11:54There, there were people that were still coming down the mountain, uh, and this is at,

11:58uh, approximately 15, 30 hours, or about 3.30 yesterday.

12:01So, people were still coming off of the mountain.

12:03Um, sir, did the Instagram photo that you, or the story that you saw,

12:09that you gave us, um, did, was his Instagram deleted?

12:14His social media has been wiped now, or is that by your doing, or, I mean, what was?

12:19Preliminary information is that, um, we, we believe it has been wiped, but we don't,

12:27we don't, we, but we don't know by who.

12:29Okay.

12:30Yeah.

12:31The lady in the rust color.

12:33Yeah.

12:34Are you coming, uh, what sort of role federal agencies played in the, in what played out

12:38yesterday?

12:39Would you have any issues without them, or?

12:42Yeah.

12:43Yeah.

12:44You're watching live now from Fox everyone, as, uh, we continue to, uh, really showcase,

12:48uh, the latest there, the developments coming from Idaho, but I do want to switch gears here.

12:53I do want to go live on the Senate floor.

12:55The Votorama continues.

12:57We do have a Senator Tillis speaking.

13:00Let's listen.

13:01Lifted me out of that situation into a high tech career, and now standing here before

13:07you in the U.S. Senate.

13:09This and several other amendments are amendments that are standing in the way of other people

13:14getting lifted out of that same trailer park.

13:16So, ladies and gentlemen, on our side of the aisle, and those over there, I hope you

13:19will join us, shout loudly, no.

13:22Thank you, Mr. President.

13:24The question is on the motion.

13:29All in favor, say aye.

13:31Aye.

13:32Opposed, no.

13:33Opposed, no.

13:34No.

13:35Nose appear to have it.

13:36Nose appear to have it.

13:37Nose do have it.

13:38Nose do have it.

13:39Motion is not agreed to.

13:40Motion is not agreed to.

13:46Senator from Arizona.

13:47Mr. President, I have a motion to commit at the desk.

13:50Clerk will report.

13:52The Senator from Arizona, Mr. Kelly, moves to commit the bill, H.R. 1, to the Committee

13:57on Finance with instructions.

14:00I ask that further reading of the motion be dispensed with.

14:04Without objection.

14:06Mr. President, I don't think we're looking to take any money out of Jelly Roll's pocket

14:12here.

14:13But giving a tax break to the richest people and most profitable corporations is a choice.

14:25And paying for it by kicking 17 million Americans off their health insurance is a choice.

14:33None of this is set in stone.

14:36Every one of us gets a vote here, a choice.

14:43We can help parents be able to take their kids to the doctor.

14:48We can keep seniors in their nursing homes.

14:52Or some rich guy, not Jelly Roll, can get another private jet.

15:01We can save health care for millions of Americans if we strip out tax giveaways for individuals

15:09making more than $100 million a year.

15:15Yes or no?

15:22Senator North Carolina.

15:23The reality is, let's fast forward now to 2017.

15:25I was in this chamber when we passed TCJA.

15:28And after we passed this, again, everybody was arguing this was all tax policy for the rich.

15:34But we unleashed an American economy that we have not seen in our history.

15:38In fact, it was better than the tax cuts of the Reagan era.

15:42Ladies and gentlemen, we need to get every bit of what we did in 2017 back on the books

15:49because people are not understanding the pro-growth nature of this tax policy.

15:54I hope my colleagues will vote loudly yes once again.

15:58No.

15:59No.

16:00Once again.

16:01Senator's time has expired.

16:06The question is on the motion.

16:09All in favor say aye.

16:10Aye.

16:12All opposed, nay.

16:13No.

16:14No.

16:15The no's appear to have it.

16:16The no's do have it.

16:17Clerk will report.

16:18The motion is not agreed to.

16:19The motion is not agreed to.

16:20Clerk will report.

16:21No.

16:22Clerk will not report.

16:24Senator from Connecticut.

16:28President, I have a motion to commit at the desk.

16:33Clerk will report.

16:35Senator from Connecticut.

16:36Mr. Murphy moves to commit the Bill H.R. 1 to the Committee on Finance of the Senate

16:40with instructions to report back the same to the Senate in three days, not counting.

16:46I'd ask that the further reading of the motion be dispensed with.

16:49Without objection.

16:50Mr. President, at the foundation of this bill is something very simple.

16:55The most massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in the history of the country.

17:01That's essentially what we're talking about here.

17:03That's really bad policy, but just as importantly, it is also deeply, deeply immoral.

17:09This bill is going to ruin people's lives.

17:12There are going to be moms who are going to watch their kids go hungry because of the cuts in SNAP.

17:17People are going to die when 17 million people lose their healthcare.

17:21And for what?

17:22To give an average quarter-million-dollar tax cut to the wealthiest families in America.

17:28We have tried to convince our colleagues to throw less people off their healthcare

17:32or to make the nutritional cuts a little bit easier to stomach, but they won't do it.

17:37So now we're just trying to address the other side of the immorality.

17:41This amendment would just say no tax cuts for people making over $500 million a year.

17:50If you are going to ruin people's lives by kicking them off their healthcare or cutting their food stamps,

17:55don't make the moral injury even worse by padding the pockets of the richest people in the country.

18:02Tax cuts for people making over $500 million a year

18:06while you throw 17 million people off their healthcare, yes or no.

18:11Senator North Carolina.

18:14Mr. President, I'm guessing, well, they're probably focused a little bit less on me

18:19because I made an announcement this weekend.

18:21But you can already tell that this narrative is about how we're all about the wealthy.

18:27And I've already stipulated I have concerns with the Medicaid bill.

18:30You all know where I am on that.

18:32But we're talking about the tax bill.

18:35And there is nothing in this tax bill that I think that falls short of extraordinary opportunity

18:42for economic growth that lifts up the very people that I grew up with.

18:47And for that reason, once again, I hope you will vote loudly no.

18:53The question is on the motion.

18:55All in favor say aye.

18:56Aye.

18:57All opposed, no.

18:58No.

18:59The no's appear to have it.

19:01The no's do have it.

19:02The motion is not agreed to.

19:04Mr. President.

19:05Senator from Maine.

19:07Mr. President, first, I want to respond.

19:11We can solve this problem and solve the problem of people in trailer parks by limiting the tax

19:18cuts to people making $400,000 a year and less.

19:21That would cut the cost of this bill by 60%.

19:24It would also obviate the necessity of kicking people, 17 million people off of healthcare and

19:30thousands and thousands of young people and people across the country from SNAP.

19:35You can do this and give tax relief to the middle class without the unnecessary tax relief in this bill

19:42that goes to the richest people in our country.

19:44So my amendment is really simple.

19:46If you think people making a billion dollars a year need and deserve a tax break,

19:51and also if you want to give a really good ad to these guys in November of 2026,

19:57vote no on the amendment and say that billionaires, no, not billionaires,

20:02people earning a billion dollars need and deserve a tax break.

20:07I urge a yes vote.

20:08Mr. President.

20:11Does the Senator wish to call up his motion?

20:13I have a motion to commit at the desk.

20:15Quick report.

20:16The Senator from Maine, Mr. King, moves to commit the bill H.R. 1 to the community.

20:20I ask that further reading of the motion be dispensed with.

20:23Without objection.

20:24Mr. President.

20:25Senator from North Carolina.

20:26Mr. President, in truth, you can see this sort of upping of the ante.

20:31These are the gimmicks that we play when we want to get a show vote,

20:37especially with somebody who may be running for reelection, for reelection.

20:42We know that this isn't going to materially change things.

20:45Now, my friend from Maine knows where I am on health care, and I hope that we get things fixed.

20:51But this exercise, by virtue of it being a voice vote, tells you all you need to know about this process.

20:59And for that reason, I would suggest just one more loud no vote.

21:04Questions on the motion.

21:05All in favor say aye.

21:06Aye.

21:07All opposed, no.

21:08The Nose appear to have it.

21:09The Nose do have it.

21:10The motion is not agreed to.

21:11Mr. President.

21:12The Nose appear to have it.

21:13The Nose appear to have it.

21:14The Nose do have it.

21:15The motion is not agreed to.

21:19Mr. President.

21:21Senator from California.

21:22I have a motion to commit at the desk.

21:25Clerk report.

21:27Senator from California.

21:28Mr. Padilla moves to commit the Bill H.R. 1 to the Committee on Finance of the Senate.

21:32I ask that further reading of the motion be dispensed with.

21:35Without objection.

21:37Colleagues on the other side of the aisle, I know that you take great pleasure in criticizing

21:44the federal deficit under Democratic administrations.

21:49But the numbers don't lie.

21:51The biggest driver of the ballooning national debt has been Republican tax cuts for the wealthy

22:00and large corporations.

22:03And despite the parliamentary gymnastics that are being played here, our Republican colleagues

22:09know that this bill is adding an additional $3.5 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years.

22:18Why else would they have included a piece of the bill to raise the debt limit by $5 trillion

22:28if this bill saved money as they claim?

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