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US President Donald Trump’s self-imposed two-week delay to decide whether to strike Iran has sparked confusion and conjecture in Israel.
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00:00decisions in Israel. It's Benjamin Netanyahu and his small team around him. Who's making decisions
00:06in Iran at this point? Everything that we hear from our sources is that it still all goes back
00:11to the supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, more than ever. But we also know that he is in a secure
00:17location. Very few people have access to him. The Iranians have stopped using digital forms
00:23of communication because we've seen that the Israelis are able to use that as a way of
00:28assassinations. And so the decision making process in Iran is unclear. We still know that the ultimate
00:33decision maker is the supreme leader, Ali Khamenei. The question is, how are decisions being made and
00:40communicated? And what do they know? And how quickly are they able to actually communicate these
00:44decisions? So that's hugely important. I would also say that what has been startling is actually
00:51seeing the very immediate communication from President Trump to the world through Truth Social
00:57but also that there has been incredible work behind the scenes of all the sides, including of course
01:02the Gulf countries, on to avoid a miscalculation. The concern is how decisions are being made in Iran
01:08because they have miscalculated a number of times throughout this. And it seems perhaps now is a
01:14little different. At the same time, the Iranian army is going to get time to regroup, also take an
01:24assessment of what their arsenal looks like. Iran is going to now rebuild its weakened proxy group
01:31network, which is the Houthi, the Hezbollah and the Hamas, which we all know are extremely weakened after
01:37the October 7 attack on Israel. On that note, let's also bring you the latest happenings which are
01:45currently on air on CNN.
01:48President Donald Trump heads to a summit with NATO. You can see his plane standing by. This is just
01:54days after launching airstrikes against Iran. And at this hour, he is departing Washington en route to
02:00the Netherlands for this year's meeting. So this will be President Trump's second visit with world
02:05leaders just this month after he suddenly departed the G7 summit in Canada a little more than a week
02:11ago as the war between Israel and Iran was breaking out. Now he returns in the midst of a fragile
02:17ceasefire with diplomatic relations also on thin ice. Joining me now from the Netherlands is CNN's chief
02:24international anchor, Christiane Amanpour. And Christiane, thanks for being here.
02:28It's great to be here because this is going to be the big topic of conversation. Some leaders are
02:36already here. I've just spoken to the Canadian prime minister, Mark Carney, who has really passed the
02:42Oval Office test and is doing pretty well in his relationship with President Trump. And he has said
02:47that the Iranian response to those, you know, big bombings of the of the nucleus sites, he believes that
02:55they match what President Trump says, that it was calibrated and potentially gives way for diplomacy.
03:00Take a listen.
03:03I would lean towards President Trump's interpretation of it. The military action was also a diplomatic
03:11move by Iran. It was, I mean, we never welcome, obviously, hostilities and reactions, but it was
03:20disproportionate. It was de-escalatory. It appears to have been previewed, which allowed in their Canadian
03:29soldiers at the Qatari base as well. So they were out of harm's way. Yes.
03:41It gives an opening for diplomacy. I think that's the right way to put it. And the question is,
03:45does that diplomacy really get traction and move to ending this risk of nuclear proliferation? And
03:54does it lead as well to broader, well, a broader ceasefire in the Middle East, including in Gaza?
04:06And, Audie, that is the question. What are the other things that could lead from this? But on Iran,
04:11of course, many do not understand the timing because their intelligence did not show that Iran was
04:18imminently about to use or weaponize. But he does say that Iran's enrichment to 60% was really a
04:27provocation and that it caused, you know, potentially Iran to miscalculate. It was trying to prove its
04:32capability and negotiate at the same time with President Trump. But at this time, that was no longer
04:39acceptable. And so Israel and the United States took that action.
04:42Um, Christiane, NATO leaders have for so long leaned on kind of, um, nuclear, uh, sort of ending
04:51proliferation through diplomacy. Are they on the same page with the president? Can we expect any kind
04:57of unified statement about this issue from the summit?
05:00Well, I'm not sure whether this NATO summit will do that, but they are on board. They all want diplomacy. All of them
05:09had called on all sides to deescalate, you know, until yesterday when President Trump announced after the
05:14Iranian calibrated response, proportional response, as they all call it, uh, that there is a ceasefire. Israel and Iran have
05:21declared a ceasefire, although there is some trading of fire right now. We understand. We don't know where this will all lead. But on the other big
05:28issues, he said, for instance, he's going to try to, and many of the other European leaders are going to...
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06:01The thing that will end the Middle East, as he puts it, the Middle East crisis, and that is, uh, an eventual path to statehood for the Palestinians. So, that's what they're hoping Trump will take away from this action, uh, that he took in Iran.
06:15The president lashed out at Iran and Israel, really especially Israel, accusing both sides of threatening the ceasefire that he helped to broker just hours it went off after it went into effect. He's on his way right now to a NATO summit in the Netherlands.
06:31Joining us now is Congressman Scott Perry, a Republican from Pennsylvania, a member of the Foreign Affairs and Intelligence Committees. Congressman, thanks so much for being with us. The president expressed his frustration with both Iran and Israel. He was more livid with Israel than I have heard him before. What is your view of the Israeli strikes?
06:51Well, hang on, hang on. What is your view of the actions that Israel took, uh, after the ceasefire was announced and then heading into the morning?
06:59I, I think, unfortunately, it was probably, probably to be expected. They knew what the moment of the ceasefire, at least as negotiated, would commence, but they also wanted to make sure that they maximized the amount of time that they had to ensure that the nuclear capabilities, the war fighting, and the terrorist activities of Iran were minimized, and, and they took that opportunity.
07:26And, unfortunately, like I said, I think that was likely to be expected. We've seen that in other ceasefire situations. And let's, let's face it, while the deal was brokered, the ceasefire is generally more advantageous to Iran than it is to Israel.
07:40And it's always the one that is, that is losing the fight that requests the ceasefire, not the one that is winning the fight. So, it is an unfortunate, uh, kind of turn of events, but it should not be unexpected.
07:51The ceasefire is more advantageous to Iran, you say. You're on the Intel Committee, so you see a lot of things that we don't, but over the last 12 days, what was accomplished in terms of trying to degrade Iran and their nuclear capabilities?
08:07Well, that, that is the point of this whole thing, that the, that America in particular does not have an argument with the people of Iran. We wish, and we hope that they can realize their freedom, and we stand in solidarity with them in that.
08:23But we do have, we do have, we do take issue with the world's greatest terrorist state having that nuclear capability and being able to deliver that anywhere on the globe, particularly to Israel and the United States of America or our interest abroad.
08:36And, and, and, and what America had carried out ensured that that capability no longer exists in any time where there would be a crisis of time, in other words, where you would have to make a decision under duress because they were able to do it without notice. That, that capability no longer exists.
08:56Let me ask two follow-ups on that. What's the status of the enriched uranium inside Iran right now?
09:02Well, I think that's a moving target. Obviously, Iran, like North Korea, is one of the most restrictive countries on the planet for, for any kind of eyes on from outside of Iran.
09:15So that's, that, that, you know, the, I doubt that there is, as much as Israeli intelligence is, is, is very productive, they have eyes on in, in Fordow itself.
09:26So it's very difficult to completely assess what the, what the, what the status of that is.
09:32I think we're going to learn that over the next weeks and months.
09:35Um, but, uh, but I think the point is, is their capability has been significantly degraded.
09:42However, there is still a marginal threat because the, the real thing is, is that Iran cannot have a nuclear capability at all.
09:51They, they, they simply, they're a terrorist nation and they can't have that capability, so how far do you let them get?
09:57And I would suggest that they can have no, uh, they can have no nuclear capability that's not for civilian purposes.
10:03And none of this has ever been for civilian purposes.
10:06The President, I think it's going to be, uh, successful.
10:13We'll see.
10:14I'll let you know.
10:15Are you going to send to the agreement?
10:16Are you going to send to the agreement?
10:17Are you going to send to the agreement you managed to achieve?
10:18What are your future plans for the region, for Saudi Arabia, Israel, Gaza, the hostages?
10:23Look, you're asking me about women in the Middle East.
10:25It's getting a lot better.
10:26Things are happening at a high level.
10:28Uh, as you know, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Gaza, the hostages.
10:31Look, you're asking me about women in the Middle East.
10:33It's getting a lot better.
10:34Uh, as you know, Saudi Arabia has done a really good job.
10:37It's coming out, uh, far, far faster than I thought.
10:41So we're very happy about what's happening with women in the Middle East.
10:44No, I'm talking about this.
10:45A new dawn in the Middle East that you managed to achieve last night.
10:48Yeah.
10:49You know, the region is going to a new place.
10:52That's true.
10:53Can you tell us what your future plans for Gaza, for the hostages?
10:57Yeah.
10:58It's a new dawn.
10:59I appreciate the question.
11:00You're very nice.
11:01Who are you?
11:02Do you have to have a cross from Israeli front of the Jews?
11:04Very good.
11:05Well, we have to have Israel calm down because they went on a mission this morning.
11:07Did you...
11:08I got to get Israel to calm down now.
11:10Do you guys speak with the Prime Minister?
11:11Did you talk to Prime Minister Netanyahu?
11:12I think everybody.
11:13Do you...
11:14I think everybody...
11:15Do you...
11:16Are you going to call the Prime Minister?
11:17You urge both sides not to violate the ceasefire, but reports coming from the region suggest that
11:24suggest that the sides accuse each other for
11:28violating the ceasefire.
11:29So, what is your...
11:30The President, I think they both violated it.
11:31I don't think they...
11:32I'm not sure they did it intentionally.
11:34They couldn't rein people back.
11:35I don't like the fact that Israel went out this
11:38morning at all.
11:39And I'm going to see if I can stop it.
11:40So, as soon as I get away from you, I'm going to
11:43see if I can stop it.
11:44Okay?
11:45The Presser, Mr. President, how confident are
11:48you in the war that they've been completely
11:51demolished?
11:52The President, I think it's been completely
11:53demolished.
11:54I think the reason we're here is because those
11:56pilots, those B2 pilots, did an unbelievable job.
12:00And, you know, the fake news, like CNN in
12:02particular, they're trying to, you know, they're
12:04trying to say, well, I agree that it was
12:07destroyed, but maybe not that destroyed.
12:09You know what they're doing?
12:10They're really hurting great pilots that put
12:12their lives in the line.
12:13CNN is scum, and so is MSDNC.
12:17They're all...
12:17And, frankly, the networks aren't much better.
12:20It's all fake news.
12:21But they should not have done that.
12:23Those pilots hit their targets.
12:25Those targets were obliterated.
12:27And the pilots should be given credit.
12:29They're not after the pilots.
12:30They're after me.
12:30They want to try and demean.
12:31The Presser, Mr. President, do you
12:32believe that Iran can rebuild its nuclear program?
12:34The President, Iran will never rebuild its
12:36nuclear program.
12:37From there?
12:38Absolutely not.
12:39That place is under rock.
12:41That place is demolished.
12:42The B2 pilots did their job.
12:44They did it better than anybody could even
12:46imagine.
12:47They hit...
12:48Late in the evening, it was dark with no moon, and
12:51they hit that target with every one of those things.
12:53And that place is gone.
12:55But when I see CNN, all night long, they're
12:58trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as
13:01demolished as we thought.
13:02It was demolished.
13:03You take a look at the pinpricks, and you see,
13:06that place is gone.
13:07And I will say, I think CNN ought to apologize to
13:11the pilots of the B2s.
13:13I think that MSDNC ought to apologize.
13:16I think these guys really, these networks and
13:18these cable networks, are real losers.
13:22You really are.
13:23You're real losers.
13:24The Presser, Mr. President, it's real sad.
13:26It's real sad that they violated the
13:28security.
13:29The President, you're gutless losers.
13:30I say that to CNN because I watch it.
13:32I have no choice.
13:33I've got to watch that garbage.
13:34It's all garbage.
13:35It's all fake news.
13:37But I think CNN is a gutless group of people.
13:40And the people that run it, nobody even knows
13:42it's been sold so many times.
13:44But the people that run it ought to be ashamed.
13:46MSDNC, a guy named Brian Roberts.
13:48He heads it.
13:49He's a disgrace.
13:50He's a weak, pathetic disgrace.
13:52The Presser, you think Israel says that Iran
13:54violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire
13:56agreement.
13:57Do you believe that Iran is still committed to
13:59the peace?
14:00The President, yeah, I do.
14:01They violated it, but Israel violated it, too.
14:03The Presser, are you questioning if Israel
14:05was committed to the peace?
14:05The President, Israel, as soon as we made the
14:07deal, they came out and they dropped a load of
14:09bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before.
14:12The biggest load that we've seen.
14:13I'm not happy with Israel.
14:15You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours,
14:18you don't go out in the first hour and just drop
14:20everything you have on them.
14:22So, I'm not happy with them.
14:23I'm not happy with Iran, either.
14:25But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this
14:28morning because of one rocket that didn't land,
14:30that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land.
14:34I'm not happy about that.
14:35The Presser, you know what?
14:38We have, we basically have two countries that have
14:41been fighting so long and so hard that they don't
14:44know what the fuck they're doing.
14:45Do you understand that?
14:47All right, a very agitated U.S.
14:48President over there condemning not just Iran,
14:50but his steadfast ally, Israel, as well.
14:52All right, a very agitated U.S. president over there, condemning not just Iran, but his
15:01steadfast ally, Israel, as well.
15:04He is, in fact, saying that he is more unhappy with Israel because he gave them one hour
15:09for the ceasefire, and it did not mean that Israel should have gone ahead and dropped
15:15all the bombs on Tehran.
15:16He's, of course, also gone on to indicate that Tehran's nuclear program has been done
15:21away with.
15:22He is, of course, very livid with leading news networks in the United States, calling
15:28them fake news.
15:29But more importantly, he has also warned Israel against launching further airstrikes against
15:36Tehran, calling it a major violation of the ceasefire.
15:39Do not drop these bombs.
15:41If you do, it is a major violation.
15:42Bring your pilots home is what Donald Trump's instructions were to Israel.
15:47At the same time, important to highlight that the U.S. president was departing from Washington
15:52for the NATO summit in The Hague.
15:55This is the Joint Base Andrews where the U.S. president actually delivered those statements.
16:02Now, the U.S. president has also said that both Iran and Israel have violated the ceasefire.
16:07So a confirmation coming in with regards to all the confusion that was surrounding the
16:12ceasefire violation, because remember, both the countries were trading barbs at each other,
16:17blaming each other for being the first to violate that ceasefire.
16:21But the U.S. president officially putting it on record that both the countries, Iran and
16:26Israel included, have violated the ceasefire collectively.
16:31He's not happy with Iran either, but extremely unhappy with Israel, is what the U.S. president
16:38had to say.
16:39The timing is extremely significant, given that he's headed towards the NATO summit in the
16:44backdrop of the Iran-Israel conflict.
16:47The NATO summit is certainly going to assume new dimensions with a prolonged conflict in Ukraine,
16:54a second front in Gaza, and a third now opening up with Iran and Israel.
16:59Let's listen in to what the U.S. president had to say yet again.
17:04It's dark with no moon, and they hit that target with every one of those things, and that
17:09place is gone.
17:11But when I see CNN all night long, they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as
17:16demolished as we thought.
17:17It was demolished.
17:19You take a look at the pinpricks, and you see, that place is gone.
17:23And I will say, I think CNN ought to apologize to the pilots of the B-2s.
17:27I think that MSD and CO2 apologized.
17:31I think these guys really, these networks...
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17:47I've got to watch that garbage.
17:50It's all garbage.
17:50It's all fake news.
17:52But I think CNN is a gutless group of people.
17:56And the people that run it, nobody even knows it's been sold so many times.
17:59But the people that run it ought to be ashamed.
18:02MSD and see a guy named Brian Roberts.
18:04He heads it.
18:05He's a disgrace.
18:06He's a weak, pathetic disgrace.
18:07Israel says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement.
18:12Do you believe that Iran is still committed to the peace?
18:15Yeah, I do.
18:16They violated it, but Israel violated it too.
18:19Are you questioning if Israel is committed to the peace?
18:20Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs,
18:25the likes of which I've never seen before.
18:27The biggest load that we've seen.
18:29I'm not happy with Israel.
18:30You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours,
18:33you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them.
18:37So I'm not happy with them.
18:39I'm not happy with Iran either.
18:40But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning
18:43because of one rocket that didn't land, that was shot,
18:47perhaps by mistake, that didn't land.
18:49I'm not happy about that.
18:52You know what?
18:53We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard
18:58that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
19:01Do you understand that?
19:04You generally do not, Dr. West,
19:07Like you said, we are told there's a ceasefire in place.
19:10However, we're also hearing that missiles are being launched from Iran.
19:13And also, there seems to be a staggered ceasefire
19:16where Donald Trump has given Israel an extra 12 hours
19:20to do what they want to do, and then it should be fully in place.
19:23It's a fragile ceasefire at best.
19:25And of course, it's nowhere near a peace deal
19:39or nowhere near the end of this regional war, frankly,
19:42that started now some 12 days ago
19:45with the Israeli attacks on the Iranian nuclear program
19:52that then suddenly seem to be morphing
19:54into the possibility of regime change.
19:55We've had the Americans come in.
19:57So it's an incredibly escalatory environment
20:00that suddenly seems to be on pause
20:02because of this announcement of a potential ceasefire.
20:04Now, the concern is, of course,
20:07the Iranians are incredibly weak
20:09and they have shown that they can still launch missiles.
20:13The decision to go for Al-Adeed base,
20:16the largest American base in the region,
20:19and also Qatar that traditionally has been an ally,
20:23was quite surprising.
20:24I, for one, was expecting that they would attack
20:26American bases in Iraq and Syria
20:28because that would be politically less costly
20:32for the Iranians.
20:33Having said that,
20:34we've seen the reaction from the Gulf countries
20:36where, of course,
20:37they've condemned an attack on Qatar,
20:40but it has been very limited
20:42because what the Qataris said yesterday
20:44in a very important press conference,
20:46we heard from Majid al-Ansari,
20:47the spokesperson for the Qataris,
20:50saying that we want peace,
20:52we want to find a way to work with the Iranians,
20:54and it's seen as an attack on the base.
20:55Of course, only one missile
20:57actually landed in the base.
20:59The rest were, thankfully, intercepted in mid-air.
21:03So militarily, very little impact.
21:05Politically, an impact that is quite bold
21:08in saying that the Iranians are willing to go quite far
21:12to try to secure not only this regime,
21:15but secure their country
21:16in the way that they think is best.
21:18What happens from here really is going to be set
21:21by whether this ceasefire
21:22can actually become a foundation
21:24to walk back from this all-out war.
21:27We've seen a statement I think we can bring up
21:31on the screen just in the last couple of hours
21:33from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,
21:36which also, of course, hosts U.S. assets.
21:41This is a statement that was released
21:44after a call between the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
21:47and the Emir of Qatar.
21:50Can we bring that up on the screen?
21:52Do we have that?
21:55HRH, the Crown Prince,
21:57affirmed the Kingdom's full support
21:58for the state of Qatar
21:59and condemned the bait and aggression
22:01launched by Iran against Qatar,
22:03stressing that it cannot be justified.
22:05And we have heard that around this region,
22:09which was on a heightened,
22:11had a heightened sense of alert
22:14as to what might happen next.
22:17But there is also a keen understanding
22:21that this started with Israeli aggression,
22:24which you rightly point out,
22:2512 days ago against Iran.
22:28So I think it would be fair to say
22:29that there is still a sense of anxiety
22:32around this region that this may not be over.
22:36Let's talk about who's making decisions
22:38because those decision makers
22:41are going to be really important
22:42in the next few hours and days.
22:45We know who's making decisions in Israel.
22:47It's Benjamin Netanyahu
22:48and his small team around him.
22:51Who's making decisions in Iran at this point?
22:53Everything that we hear from our sources
22:55is that it still all goes back
22:57to the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei,
23:00more than ever.
23:00But we also know that he is in a secure location.
23:04Very few people have access to him.
23:06The Iranians have stopped using
23:08digital forms of communication
23:09because we've seen that the Israelis
23:11are able to use that as a way of assassinations.
23:15And so the decision-making process
23:16in Iran is unclear.
23:18We still know that the ultimate decision-maker
23:20is the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei.
23:23The question is,
23:24how are decisions being made and communicated?
23:26And what do they know?
23:27And how quickly are they able
23:29to actually communicate these decisions?
23:31So that's hugely important.
23:32I would also say that what has been startling
23:36is actually seeing the very immediate communication
23:39from President Trump to the world
23:42through Truth Social,
23:43but also that there has been incredible work
23:45behind the scenes of all the sides,
23:47including, of course, the Gulf countries,
23:49on to avoid a miscalculation.
23:51The concern is how decisions are being made in Iran
23:54because they have miscalculated
23:55a number of times throughout this.
23:57And it seems perhaps now is a little different.
24:01At the same time,
24:05the Iranian army is going to get time
24:07to regroup,
24:08also take an assessment
24:10of what their arsenal looks like.
24:12Iran is going to now rebuild.
24:14It's a weakened proxy group network,
24:17which is the Houthi,
24:19the Hezbollah,
24:20and the Hamas,
24:20which we all know are extremely weakened
24:22after the October 7 attack on Israel.
24:26On that note,
24:27let's also bring you the latest happenings,
24:30which are currently on air on CNN.
24:34President Donald Trump heads to a summit with NATO.
24:38You can see his plane standing by.
24:39This is just days after launching airstrikes against Iran.
24:42And at this hour,
24:44he is departing Washington
24:45en route to the Netherlands
24:46for this year's meeting.
24:48So this will be President Trump's second visit
24:50with world leaders just this month
24:52after he suddenly departed the G7 summit in Canada
24:55a little more than a week ago
24:57as the war between Israel and Iran was breaking out.
25:01Now he returns in the midst of a fragile ceasefire
25:04with diplomatic relations also on thin ice.
25:08Joining me now from the Netherlands
25:09is CNN's chief international anchor,
25:11Christiane Amanpour.
25:13And Christiane, thanks for being here.
25:17It's great to be here
25:18because this is going to be
25:19the big topic of conversation.
25:21Some leaders are already here.
25:23I've just spoken to the Canadian prime minister,
25:25Mark Carney,
25:25who has really passed the Oval Office test
25:28and is doing pretty well
25:30in his relationship with President Trump.
25:31And he has said
25:33that the Iranian response
25:35to those big bombings of the nucleus sites,
25:39he believes that they match what President Trump says,
25:42that it was calibrated
25:43and potentially gives way for diplomacy.
25:46Take a listen.
25:47I would lean towards President Trump's interpretation of it.
25:53The military action was also a diplomatic move by Iran.
25:59It was, I mean, we never welcome, obviously,
26:03hostilities and reactions,
26:05but it was proportionate.
26:07It was de-escalatory.
26:08It appears to have been previewed,
26:13which allowed,
26:14and they're Canadian soldiers
26:15at the Qatari base as well.
26:18So they were out of harm's way, yes.
26:27It gives an opening for diplomacy.
26:29I think that's the right way to put it.
26:30And the question is,
26:31does that diplomacy really get traction
26:34and move to ending this risk of nuclear proliferation?
26:40And does it lead as well to broader,
26:43well, a broader ceasefire in the Middle East,
26:47including in Gaza?
26:51And, Audie, that is the question.
26:53What are the other things that could lead from this?
26:56But on Iran, of course,
26:58many do not understand the timing
27:00because their intelligence did not show
27:03that Iran was imminently about to use or weaponize.
27:06But he does say that Iran's enrichment to 60%
27:10was really a provocation
27:13and that it caused, you know,
27:15potentially Iran to miscalculate.
27:17It was trying to prove its capability
27:19and negotiate at the same time with President Trump.
27:22But at this time, that was no longer acceptable.
27:25And so Israel and the United States took that action.
27:29Christiane, NATO leaders have for so long
27:32leaned on kind of nuclear sort of ending proliferation
27:37through diplomacy.
27:39Are they on the same page with the president?
27:41Can we expect any kind of unified statement
27:44about this issue from the summit?
27:48Well, I'm not sure whether this NATO summit will do that,
27:52but they are on board.
27:53They all want diplomacy.
27:54All of them had called on all sides to de-escalate,
27:58you know, until yesterday when President Trump announced
28:00after the Iranian calibrated response,
28:02proportional response, as they all call it,
28:04that there is a ceasefire.
28:06Israel and Iran have declared a ceasefire,
28:08although there is some trading of fire right now.
28:11We understand.
28:12We don't know where this will all lead.
28:13But on the other big issues, he said, for instance,
28:16he's going to try to,
28:17and many of the other European leaders,
28:19are going to try to persuade President Trump
28:21to keep up the support of Ukraine.
28:23That's one thing.
28:24And on the other, to, you know,
28:27encourage President Trump to leverage what he did
28:30to help Israel in its setback of Iran's nuclear program,
28:33to get Israel to get to a negotiating, you know,
28:36situation again over the war in Gaza,
28:39and to get a ceasefire there,
28:40to end the horrors that are happening in Gaza,
28:43to get the hostages back,
28:45and to eventually lead to the only thing
28:47that will end the Middle East, as he puts it,
28:49the Middle East crisis,
28:50and that is an eventual path to statehood
28:53for the Palestinians.
28:54So that's what they're hoping Trump will take away
28:57from this action that he took in Iran.
29:01The president lashed out at Iran and Israel,
29:04really especially Israel,
29:05accusing both sides of threatening the ceasefire
29:08that he helped to broker just hours
29:10after it went into effect.
29:12He's on his way right now
29:14to a NATO summit in the Netherlands.
29:17Joining us now is Congressman Scott Perry,
29:20a Republican from Pennsylvania,
29:22a member of the Foreign Affairs
29:24and Intelligence Committees.
29:25Congressman, thanks so much for being with us.
29:27The president expressed his frustration
29:29with both Iran and Israel.
29:30He was more livid with Israel
29:32than I have heard him before.
29:34What is your view?
29:35Of the Israeli strikes.
29:38Hang on, hang on.
29:39What is your view of the actions
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30:32It's a kind of turn of events,
30:36but it should not be unexpected.
30:38The ceasefire is more advantageous to Iran, you say.
30:42You're on the Intel Committee,
30:43so you see a lot of things that we don't.
30:45But over the last 12 days,
30:46what was accomplished
30:48in terms of trying to degrade Iran
30:52and their nuclear capabilities?
30:53Well, that is the point of this whole thing,
30:57that America in particular
30:59does not have an argument
31:01with the people of Iran.
31:02We wish and we hope
31:03that they can realize their freedom,
31:06and we stand in solidarity with them in that.
31:09But we do have,
31:10we do take issue
31:11with the world's greatest terrorist state
31:13having that nuclear capability
31:15and being able to deliver that
31:17anywhere on the globe,
31:19particularly to Israel
31:20and the United States of America
31:21or our interest abroad.
31:23And what America had carried out
31:25ensured that that capability
31:27no longer exists in any time
31:30where there would be a crisis of time.
31:33In other words,
31:33where you would have to make a decision
31:35under duress
31:36because they were able to do it without notice.
31:39That capability no longer exists.
31:41Let me ask two follow-ups on that.
31:43What's the status of the enriched uranium
31:46inside Iran right now?
31:49Well, I think that's a moving target.
31:50Obviously, Iran, like North Korea,
31:53is one of the most restrictive countries
31:55on the planet
31:56for any kind of eyes on
31:59from outside of Iran.
32:01So that's, you know,
32:02I doubt that there is,
32:04as much as Israeli intelligence
32:06is very productive,
32:09they have eyes on in Fordow itself.
32:12So it's very difficult
32:13to completely assess
32:15what the status of that is.
32:17I think we're going to learn that
32:19over the next weeks and months.
32:22But I think the point is...
32:25It's...
32:25Very difficult to see it then,
32:26but I'm just going to learn,
32:26I think it does have a lot of
32:28through the next day.
32:29I'll see you again.
32:30I think that the point is
32:32that for me to understand
32:32how many people think
32:33the person think
32:33and how many people think
32:34and how many people think
32:34were with this type of
32:35of the idea of this place
32:36that, quote,
32:36that, quote,