- 6/23/2025
Panthers parade recap after Hoch and Solana were live over Fort Lauderdale beach for the festivities. Our immediate thoughts on the Heat whiffing on another chance at Kevin Durant - could the reported trade be a serious offer?
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00:00Panthers parade. I mean, it was an all-timer of a great day. It was an all-timer of a celebration.
00:09It was certainly worthy of what the Panthers delivered hockey-wise, not just this season,
00:17last season, and the season before, really the season before the head. But it was a great
00:23celebration. It falls right into the narrative we've been talking about, Crowder, of this team
00:28parties and is part of the community as much as the community parties around the team and supports
00:36the team. The team really does seem to support the community right back. So if you were there
00:42yesterday, you got this feeling of like, yeah, wow, these guys appreciate me and they're partying
00:46with me. It was a really cool event. Yes, yes. And I wish we got Marsan about four years ago,
00:53because I love this dude now that I'm starting to figure him out. He's a fun human being.
00:58Really amazing. He, uh, he easily could have been a half a year rental. He could have been a guy
01:05that we never took to. He never really took to us teammates tolerated. Um, like you had no idea
01:11what was going to happen with Brad Marsan. Although I will tell you this, I don't think anyone could
01:18have foreseen this happening with Brad Marsan. I'll tell you a story. You know, uh, one of my neighbors
01:25texted me and she said, you think Brad Marsan will be here next season?
01:32And I said, uh, I don't know. I said, my gut tells me, yes, he seems like a kind of lay it on
01:40the line kind of guy. Like he doesn't seem like a guy, you know, how we go through the, the Dwayne
01:44Wade tweets and the, and the Jimmy Butler tweets and the James Harden tweets, you know, and it's
01:51like, you know, they're kind of like throwing breadcrumbs. It's like, Hey, look at me start
02:00to talk about white, what might happen with me. Brad Marsan just seems like the kind of guy that's
02:06like, yeah, figure out a deal to get me here. Cause I want to stay. Yeah. And he's, and he's,
02:10he's politicking for other people to stay. Right. Right. And why would he be doing that if he was
02:15leaving? That's what showed me something when he's doing the, you know, he's doing the, doing
02:20the stuff, sending out the tweets and they're not, there's no breadcrumbs. He's giving you the loaf.
02:25Hey, sign back, bro. We need you. And you know what? I love, I love hall of famers that are still
02:33playing that just act like hall of famers. Like I'm great at hockey. Y'all know I'm great at hockey.
02:37Just let's just, just have fun. That's the part of that. That's the part I love about him. But also
02:42I got to tell y'all about yesterday. I don't know if it's an old man moment, but I'm running the kids
02:50around. Ava has basketball, you know, chance going to rehab and stuff. And I hear you and Solana talking
02:56on the radio. And for about five minutes, I thought it was prerecorded. And then y'all started
03:03talking about the parade. Did you think it was like Monday or something where you're
03:07like, wait, am I supposed to be on with these guys? How the hell did they know this is about
03:12to happen last week? I was confused. And I heard Tobin and I was like, oh, that's right.
03:23They're at the actual parade. And I thought like it clicked to me, but I had an old man moment
03:28for about three, four minutes in the car. We, uh, we had a really good broadcast yesterday.
03:32Brendan Tobin is going to join us this hour. Cause we were with them when the Kevin Durant
03:35news broke. And obviously, you know, he follows the heat extensively and he did a great job
03:40with the Panthers. It was really supposed to be Tobin and Solana doing the Panthers parade.
03:45I had to drop Lori at Fort Lauderdale airport. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to drive
03:50up us one from Fort Lauderdale airport. I'm going to figure out how far North I can get
03:56before they shut it all down. And if I can get near the parade, I'll walk to the, I'll
04:02walk to the parade. Cause I'd like to be there and I had to drop her off in the morning anyway.
04:06And, uh, so I, I dropped her off and I drove up and you know where that B ocean hotel is,
04:11which is just like a little bit South of Bahia Mar. I think more people probably know Bahia
04:15Mar, but, um, so I was able to, to park at someone's house for a hundred dollars, very neighborly
04:21of the person. Uh, I was able to, to park at someone's house. And then I just walked like
04:27right from B ocean, which is kind of where the party was all the way down to Lulu's bait
04:32shack where Solana and Tobin were doing the broadcast. And I just jammed my way in. I was
04:37like, Hey, can I be part of this? And I had really fun. I, it was really fun, but yeah,
04:42I just, I just kind of weaseled my way into the, into their, uh, into their Sunday broadcast.
04:47Y'all got me. How is this happening? Anyway, my neighbor. So she had texted me and she said,
04:54is Marcian going to be back? And the reason was her daughter who's been rooting for the Panthers
04:59because I used to get free stacks of tickets when they were no good. And so, you know, the
05:05neighbors would all come, the whole neighborhood would come because no one wanted tickets for,
05:10you know, since she was a kid, now she's in college, huge Panthers fan. She wants a Brad
05:16Marcian jersey, but you know, the mom's like, Hey, I'm not necessarily certain you should buy one
05:20yet. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. Don't buy it yet. My gut instinct tells me though, you'll be able to
05:25buy one with, uh, with no problem. Oh, but what if you worst case scenario, he's not here.
05:32You can't still have a Marcian jersey. I think this is one of those seasons that you always remember,
05:40right? Like, like, and he was a big catalyst towards everything. I think regardless, like to
05:49have a Panthers, Brad Marcian jersey, I don't think that'll ever like go out of style unless
05:56he goes back to Boston. Hmm. Says it was a bad dream.
06:03And then we got to hate him again.
06:13And it's like one of those movies where it never happened.
06:17Now we got the receipts, man. We got the receipts of him saying, thank you, Boston. We got the receipts
06:25of him smoking a cigar. He's got a spiked iced tea in one hand. He's got a coffee cup in the
06:33other hand. He's got an elbow beer tucked under his elbow. Like we got receipts, bro. There's no
06:38backing out of this Florida Panthers life because you hoist the cup. I thought you were talking about
06:44me for a second. Cause you said that coffee cup in my hand. I thought you, I thought my, uh, my video
06:49feed had gone down and you're like, well, I see him. Uh, it looks like he's got a coffee cup in his
06:53hand. If you did what he did in those 12 minutes of life, you might die. No, a roadie, a roadie,
07:03a roadie, a beer and elbow beer and a cigar. Did you see me yesterday at the parade? There's video
07:09up. Did you see what I was drinking during the broadcast? A damn apparel spritz. That's right.
07:15Yeah. Let's see Brad Marchand throw down an apparel spritz and try to do a broadcast. No, sir.
07:23Many years of practice to be able to do what I did yesterday. Those pictures from the parade.
07:33I know what three days of no sleep looks like, boy, they were getting after it since that game
07:39ended because they were rough looking for sweating hair, dirty. Yeah. It's all a good time.
07:47It was fun, man. Fun as hell really was. Um, so we'll talk about that today, but it was the yin and
07:54the yang and Tobin had pointed out. It's one of the reasons I want to talk to Tobin. Tobin pointed
07:58out during the parade broadcast was the yin and yang. You had a franchise being celebrated by their
08:04fans who've put together this run of exceptionalism over two seasons for sure, maybe three and quite
08:13possibly four, you know, Solana argues the president's trophy season should be included
08:18in that. And if you do, it's four straight seasons. And, and then you've got every decision
08:23that they've made personnel wise from the front office being a slam dunk. And while this celebration
08:30of that is going on, news is coming in that Kevin Durant is going to Houston because the heat
08:38were unwilling to give up enough to get Kevin, Kevin Durant in a heat uni, which I'm not even
08:44so certain I wanted very badly, but I know I don't want what seems to be looming, which
08:53is running it back. You know what I'm like? I'm really torn. It's why I want to get Tobin's
08:58take. I didn't hear a show today, but I, I, I wasn't in love with the thought of Kevin Durant
09:05because he is getting older and he is prone to injury and didn't make the playoffs last
09:11season. Um, but man, if the heat are telling me it's more important for me to watch and
09:22root for Haywood Highsmith and Kalel where then to get a season and who knows where it would
09:32lead with KD that that's my hangup. I trust in Pat Riley and I trust the Miami heat and
09:40they have delivered us more success than any franchise over what is it? What is it? Solana
09:46last, I mean, really 20 years, right? Since 06 next year will be 20 years, but even the
09:51year before, I mean, game seven of the Eastern conference finals, right? Yeah. They they've
09:55been perennially a playoff team since 2000, early 2000s, even in the nineties. So I trust them. I'm
10:03not telling you, I don't trust them. I'm just telling you. And again, I'm not a guy that was a
10:08big proponent of getting Kevin Durant. Cause I didn't think he was going to be the answer, but
10:13if my options are Kevin Durant, let's see what, what happens or Kalel where Haywood Highsmith pick
10:24number 20, let's see what happens. I'd probably ride with KD at that point. But again, I don't get
10:30paid to make those decisions. I mean, well, I like Solana, you just brought up the receipts. Cause
10:36you know, I keep handwritten notes, right? And we early on with KD, we had this conversation
10:41and I said, we're good. Tyler Bam, Khalil Ware, Davion Mitchell, Pella Larson, Haywood Highsmith.
10:51I don't think that's an exciting team to cheer for at all. And then y'all came back and we were
10:56talking about it where if you're going to stay there, you might as well trade off the big, the
10:59big names and really reset and get draft picks and all of that stuff. I am not excited to go into the
11:05season with the names I just said. Yeah. And the East is weak. And I actually heard, I heard Tobin
11:12talking about how the East, you know, East wide open. We've talked about it. That, that, that list of
11:16humans does not make me say let's go heat. Pat Riley's the goat. It just doesn't. And I don't
11:23know who's out there. What if you had Nico Jovich to that list? You didn't have that name written
11:27down. Does that change your opinion of anything? If you Nico Jovich me this summer, I'm going to kill
11:33you. Riley refused to give up. He literally refused to give up Jovich. If it, and Phoenix
11:39wanted him. And so like, he's one of those guys who better, better deliver where Jovich better
11:49deliver. I'll take it a step further. Eric Spolstra better play those two dudes next year because
11:57that like, okay, fine. You, you don't want to even want to dangle them in a trade fine for
12:03Kevin Durant. But don't tell me Nico Jovich has a short leash next year. Eric Spolstra. Don't tell
12:10me Kalawar is going to get played off the floor by Thomas Bryant in the Indiana Pacers. When you play
12:17them in the middle of January, which happened last year, like those guys better be playing
12:21and Hawk. It's not even that Phoenix wanted them. Phoenix was just like, well, aren't you at least
12:27going to offer us like anything else? Like Wiggins, okay. Are we reading this wrong? This
12:33literally says Terry Rozier. Terry Rozier. What are we reading wrong? And then two bench players,
12:39everybody's assuming it was Haywood Highsmith and Jaime Hawkes Jr. And then the 20th overall
12:44selection. Phoenix was probably like, all right, we'll, we'll let that sit for two weeks and they'll
12:49come back with Nico Jovich and Kalil where we'll get this done. And he, we're like, no, no,
12:54this is, this is our offer guys. The heat didn't want Kevin Durant. Let's be honest.
12:58I mean, well, they, they wanted him at a very bargain basement price because Phoenix,
13:02after what happened with Desmond Bain, Phoenix would have a very difficult time turning to their
13:07fan base and saying, we got zero established stars and we got a late round, late first round draft pick.
13:17And so at least with green, if Gerald green, right, at least with, um, not Gerald green.
13:23Um, Jared, Jalen green, Jalen green, Jalen green. At least with Jalen green, they can say to the
13:30families, we got a bonafide star. It's not, this isn't a prospect. We get, so I I'm kind of like
13:36with Solana where, I mean, did the heat really want to get in this battle for KD or was it, Hey,
13:45Haiti maybe wants to play here. He turns the screws a little bit. We give up very little and we get to
13:53roll the dice with KD because that, that was not from the offers we're reading. That was not a
14:00strong offer. That was, uh, yeah, y'all do garage sales. Have y'all ever done a garage sale?
14:05Yeah. I love a garage sale. When you're like, you go up and they're selling a bike for a hundred
14:09dollars. And that one dude walks up and says, I got six bucks. Yeah. And you're like, uh, I
14:17understand negotiation. Sure. But I am asking for a hundred. Okay. I got six 50. Like you can't be
14:23that guy. If Kevin Durant's the bicycle and it seemed like, unless you don't really want the
14:28bicycle. And I don't know. And that's what one of the two, I think one of the tweets y'all sent me
14:32it was like, they get involved in, it made me think we are involved in every free agent talk,
14:38but are we just involved because we want our name involved? Are we really want to get this
14:43damn bicycle from this? Right. It's like the, the Marlins when a show, Heyo Tani was looking for
14:48another team. It was like, well, I think the Marlins are involved in this in some way, shape or form.
14:53Yeah. I got six 75 asking for a hundred, sir. Hawk. Maybe, maybe they did want Durant at that
15:00very low price, but the heat look man, Pat Riley, Andy Ellisberg, Nick Harrison, like they're not
15:06dumb. They know what other teams could be offering, would be offering probably did offer.
15:13They know that that's not going to land Kevin Durant. Like, well, I mean, Hawk, Hawk, just,
15:19just with what they accepted from Houston, right? Dylan Brooks is the other name in that,
15:25that piece. He's a starter. He's a, he's a legit NBA starter. Say what you want about Dylan Brooks.
15:32The guy's annoying as hell and, and borderline weird, but he's a starter, a good role player,
15:38a very good starter in the NBA. The number 10 overall picks way lottery pick top 10 pick.
15:44And then a ton of second round draft. It's a no brainer. It's a, it's a no brainer.
15:49That he offered one starter and Andrew Wiggins. Okay. Like we all knew that would be a part of
15:54it. And then Terry Rozier, I understand what Miami's doing, but he just came off of one of
15:59the worst NBA seasons probably ever. And then two, two role players, which look, man, like I love
16:06Heywood Highsmith. We know what he is. He's not an NBA starter. He's a role player. And then Jaime
16:12Hawkins Jr. If that was the other name, which is being reported, it is, he didn't show that he has
16:18the potential to be a starter in the NBA either. So like, I'm sorry. Right. I'm sitting here and I'm
16:24saying, look, the heat made it seem like they wanted to be in the Kevin Durant sweepstakes
16:31based on what they offered. They did not think Kevin Durant, Tyler here on Bama to bio could a be a
16:37contender or B they did not want to pay Kevin Durant $110 million over the next two years.
16:42They didn't want to give up youth either. I think you were off when Jim Laranaga was on with us
16:47on Thursday and Jim Laranaga said flat out, he goes, listen, 37 year old for a 21 year old.
16:55You better be absolute certain that you're in your championship window right now, because if you
17:03are giving up a 21 year old, which I believe Kalil Ware is, and you're getting a 37 year old in return,
17:12it's because you think you can win a championship right now. And if Kevin Durant wasn't the difference
17:20between the championship, which I don't think he was now for Houston, he may be for the heat.
17:25I'm not necessarily certain. Um, and if that's the case, if you don't think it's a championship
17:32window, then you're probably better off hanging onto your younger talent.
17:36But, but my, as long as I'm bonafide starters, someone that is going to stop the heat roster,
17:43look at the heat roster, the player that's going to start on whatever team he goes to gets traded
17:49tomorrow gets cut and picked up. It's bam and Tyler, maybe Wiggins. Tell me if I'm wrong.
17:55The other guys on our roster are not guaranteed to go anywhere and start at anything. That's the
18:01problem. But that's why they're young guys with, with upside. I mean, Kalil Ware Crowder. I'm not
18:07saying he is, I don't know. We saw a small sample size. He could be, he could be. And look, you want
18:14to laugh about Nico Jovic. I swear I'm not doing stick here. Nico Jovic has a ton of upside. I don't know
18:18if he's going to end up being a star or not. I don't know. Probably not. But he does have
18:23upside. There's a reason why the heat aren't willing to just give them up. So, I mean, they
18:30feel like those guys could develop into surefire starters around the NBA. They better be right.
18:37I want to make sure we have enough time with Tobin because we can, we'll talk about this
18:41with him and we can talk about it all afternoon. I wanted to mention the, the Marlins had their
18:45Flanagan's Fest on Saturday. Great looking jerseys again. And the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp
18:50for the first time since 2017 are going to the playoffs. The Jacksonville jumbo shrimp.
18:59Huh? Wonder what the difference was between now and 2017. Oh, I don't know. Matt Mervis,
19:06a guy who should be in the majors. Huh? Marlins. Huh? All right. Let's get headlines real quick.
19:11Tobin's going to join us. Chris Whittingham's going to join us. Huge inter-Miami, uh, FIFA
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19:32team. I'm putting together a fantastic Flanagan's Fest at Lone Depot Park. Unfortunately, the
19:38Marlins gave you zero runs, but, uh, who cares? Everybody. I wonder if a home run hitter
19:43may have been able to help. People got rib rolls. They got shut out. They didn't get shut
19:48out. Did they? Saturday. I'm looking at the score. Hawk. Saturday. Atlanta Braves. Yeah.
19:55Hmm. They won Friday and yesterday. Five three yesterday. They won the series Friday. They
20:01did, but they also played a game Saturday. They lost that game. Didn't score any run.
20:057-0, Hawk. Shut out. Are you sure?
20:11I mean, I just have a tough time believing that it happened on Flanagan's day of all days.
20:15I just haven't that I'm having a tough time with that. Right. Would you like to check the score?
20:19I'm going to. Okay. All right. You let me know. All right. Unless do this. Let's do this for Mr.
20:25Flanagan. Unless the number zero all of a sudden has a new meaning. Yeah. It was. They were shut out.
20:33Okay. Thank you. Thanks for confirming. Well, you didn't sound too certain to be quite
20:39honest. Yeah. Get it up, guys. Get it up, guys. He's on three. One, two, three. That's
20:47it. Well, listen, you start throwing a rock and rib rolls around the clubhouse a couple hours
20:53before game time. Hey, you're going to be a little sluggish yourself. Maybe do. Maybe
20:58do Flanagan's best after the game. Marlins are off today. Play a giant tomorrow. They're
21:07out on the West Coast. They're in San Francisco. Sure. Tonight. Do you want to do the headline
21:21talk? Would you like to do that? You don't ran them hot. First segment, you don't ran them
21:30out. Come on. That's a funny bit. Solana. Oh, yeah. Hilarious. That are like not a big
21:36deal. Inner Miami plays tonight at Hard Rock Stadium. Final group stage game in the Club
21:49World Cup. They're playing Palmeiras from Brazil. They took over South Beach yesterday. Some
21:54really cool visuals there. I just realized why Solana's upset. The two guests today, Tobin
22:01ostensibly the heat expert, but Solana feels he's the heat expert, and Whittingham ostensibly
22:07the soccer expert, and Solana feels he's the soccer expert. So he's on edge today. I just
22:12figured it out. Yeah. I mean, what's the point of booking Tobin? He's just going to literally
22:16play clips from his YouTube page, things he already recorded from earlier today.
22:24It's a lot of you. You know, like Jordan enjoys being around LeBron, you know, Kobe and Jordan
22:34hung out. Like, why don't you just want to be around greatness? No, it's great. Let's
22:37bring on Chris Whittingham, known Florida Panthers hater the day after the Florida Panthers.
22:44I think that's a great idea. Leave that for a pal. I'm talking into Miami. I'm there.
22:48What'd you say? Marlins have a big homestand? Panthers had their parade yesterday. Inter-Miami
22:57play tonight, and the NBA Finals ended. I have never really felt this apoplectic to talk
23:05NBA Finals. I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I don't know. I don't know what word
23:10that just means. I'm the right one. I'm the right one. What does apoplectic mean? Like
23:17your head's going to explode. Like I am apoplectic that Marlins got shut out. Yeah. I don't know
23:24and you don't know either. So let's stay away from it. Apathetic, I think is what you were
23:29looking for. Yeah. Apathetic. The whole thing felt apathetic. It did. It did. We called the
23:35Halliburton injury. The compensating for injury. We called that he was going to hurt himself
23:42bad, and he hurt his damn self bad. That was it. After that, the game was over. Yeah,
23:46that was it. It sucked. It sucked. SGA wins Finals MVP. Joins a select list to win MVP and Finals
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24:04weather. All right. We're going to check into that Marlins situation and get the actual schedule
24:10as to where they'll be.