We could have a jury verdict in the Diddy federal criminal trial in NYC as soon as next week ... depending on how long jurors deliberate after the defense rests its case and closing arguments are made.
00:00So, this is a, as Joe Biden would say, big blankin' deal.
00:06The defense in the Diddy case has said that when they take the case over from prosecutors,
00:13which should happen in the next couple days, they will need one or two days.
00:19And that's it.
00:21Now, that is, in lawyer code, that means a lot.
00:26Does that mean what?
00:26That you think you're winning your case?
00:28Or what does that mean?
00:29It's not even so much, see, that's an interesting way of putting it.
00:32It's not that they're winning the case.
00:34It's that maybe they think the prosecution is losing the case.
00:39Because it is, remember, the prosecution has to win.
00:44The defense doesn't have to win.
00:45The defense needs to create reasonable doubt.
00:48And if they keep talking, maybe that's not good for them?
00:51Well, it may be that what they think is this, that, look, here's the case.
00:56They are saying that Diddy is engaged in a criminal enterprise, that his bad boy records is a subterfuge for all the criminal activity that he was coordinating.
01:08This is typically called organized crime.
01:11The defense is saying, yeah, it's crime, but it's disorganized crime.
01:16It's just Diddy using his power in this kind of shotgun approach.
01:21So that's what their argument is on racketeering.
01:24On the other issues, on sex trafficking, at least as it relates to Cassie and Jane, what they're saying is that there was consent, that it was not force or consent.
01:36And that if they believe, and I don't know that they can prove this to the jury, and we don't know how the jury feels, but if they believe that the prosecution hasn't met its burden, that's when the defense cuts down its case.
01:53Because initially they thought it was going to be two weeks.
01:56Now it seems, Max, two days.
01:58Which means by this time next week, we could potentially have a verdict.
02:02Theoretically, yeah, we could get a verdict, and I think this is very telling to your point about the defense's strategies as they've seen this come out.
02:09What they've done is poke holes in the prosecution's case along the way through their cross-examination of these witnesses, and they believe that's enough to say prosecution hasn't met their burden.
02:18They could have taken the strategy of putting on their own witnesses to rehabilitate Diddy's image, to have people who said they had great working experiences at bad boy.
02:25They never saw anything untoward, but instead of doing that, they are telegraphing that the prosecution simply hasn't met their burden, we don't have to do much, we're going to sit back, and the jury should have seen what we've seen.
02:36And I think it's pretty telling that they think the prosecution fell this short.
02:40I think maybe they're right except on the Mann Act case, which I think they've sort of given up on.
02:44That's the problem, is that with the Mann Act, all you have to prove is that you have paid somebody, a sex worker, to cross state lines for the purpose of prostitution, and that's a hard one for them to argue didn't happen.
02:59Don't they basically have documented proof of that?
03:02And that carries a big prison sentence, but still, the other two...
03:06The prosecution put on Brendan Paul, who was a personal assistant...
03:12Well, we should say, Jamie, this is the guy.
03:14We saw pictures of him at the airport the day of the raid of Diddy's homes.
03:20He is there, and the feds arrested him because they say he was the drug mule who did all sorts of things, and he got immunity to testify.
03:29But he said today he wasn't the drug mule.
03:31Right, and he said that, you know, when he set up the rooms for the freak-offs, you know, he saw Jane prior to going into the freak-off room.
03:43And after.
03:44Oh, and after, yeah.
03:45And, you know, she never looked distressed.
03:48I mean, he sounded almost like a defense witness.
03:53I don't know why the prosecution thought this was a good witness to put on for their case.
03:57I'm confused by that, because what did he...
04:01I mean, so he set up a hotel room, and even if he got Diddy drugs...
04:05Between five to ten times he testified he got drugs for Diddy's.
04:11Okay.
04:11For example...
04:12Where does that take you?
04:13He said that was a minor part of his duties for 18 months working as one of his assistants.
04:18And all the other assistants who testified said they picked up drugs for him for freak-offs, too.
04:23Yeah, I don't know that you guys, this is all that helpful, though.
04:25The prosecution clearly wanted him as part of their RICO case, right?
04:28I mean, he's running a criminal process where he has lots of assistants who are...
04:31How is that a RICO case?
04:32The RICO case is he's using his employees to procure drugs to set up illegal freak-offs.
04:37Don't forget that the transportation of the male prostitute to a freak-off over state lines is a crime.
04:43And if you're helping him set that up, or you're aiding and abetting in setting that up, you are part of the RICO case.
04:48So let me ask you something. How many hundreds of thousands of people in Los Angeles would be prosecuted if they got somebody who is a drug dealer to supply them with drugs?
05:00Not many, but many are not the president of Bad Boy Records who had a coterie of employees helping him to run a criminal enterprise, according to the prosecution.
05:07What's the enterprise? That's the question.
05:09This is not just an individual person doing it.
05:10What's the enterprise, Derek? What's the enterprise?
05:12The enterprise is, according to the prosecution, he was setting up elaborate sort of sexual escapades through his company employees.
05:21Sexual escapades are not illegal.
05:25But that's bedroom policing, basically, you know, on a federal level, you know?
05:32Bedroom policing is if he were gay and we were trying to out him.
05:37It is not bedroom policing to say that he brought in male escorts over state lines, which is a crime whether you guys like it or not.
05:43That's what the criminal enterprise is.
05:44The Man Act, you're right.
05:46Okay, that's a crime.
05:47Derek, Derek, if these were not sex workers, if it was just Diddy finding some dude to watch that dude have sex with one of his girlfriends, would that be bedroom police?
06:02You're getting closer to bedroom police, but I think you're having to sort of ignore all that's happened in this case that is not just pure bedroom policing.
06:09It is a man who's running a criminal operation.
06:11I think the prosecution has made more of their case than you're giving them credit for.
06:14And I think that might be an indication why the defense doesn't want to belabor this too much.
06:18They are not going to lay down and die.
06:20A lot of their case is just talking about Astroglide lube and baby oil and period blood on walls in hotels.
06:29And like you were saying earlier, the defense, they can just let the prosecution shoot themselves in the foot and just do two days and rest.
06:37Well, you know, it felt like I was about to pay tuition for law school here for a second.
06:41But thank you for bringing us back with the Astroglide and lube to what TNG is really about.
06:46What people really want to hear about.
06:48So thank you for bringing us back home.
06:50Hi, I'm Ivy from Atlanta.
06:52People have made a lot of jokes about the lube and Astroglide found in his home.
06:56But the revelation of military grade weapons in the same place where his children sleep.
07:01This is what speaks to the enterprise, the criminal enterprise that the prosecution has made their case around.
07:06I'm on the edge of my seat. I feel like this case go either way.
07:09Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, look, even I have my I have serious questions about racketeering.
07:16I don't about the Mann Act. And on the other, I don't know how the jury is going to go, whether they're going to find forced coercion or not.
07:22When you guys did your documentary with the mock jury, the jury split on some of the accounts.
07:27And it seems like that could be where we end up.
07:29We'll see.
07:30Not a clean sweep, but maybe some of them and not others.
07:33But there could be a verdict, like you said, theoretically as early as next week.
