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00:30This is the Debbie Perkins Radio Show.
00:55And here's your host, Debbie Perkins.
00:58Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Hollywood Red Topic Radio Show.
01:03I'm Debbie Perkins. I'm your host.
01:04And I have Nancy Planther with me today.
01:07Vixen Vault, the queen of knowledge.
01:12And Nancy, you're so awesome.
01:15I'm so happy.
01:17I'm so happy.
01:18Good lord, woman.
01:19Good lord.
01:20You are a beautiful woman.
01:21No, but you are.
01:22I think you're one of the smartest women I've ever met in my life.
01:25And I swear to God, I'll buy that.
01:27Oh, I appreciate it.
01:28I've been on your shows, and I've been on your shows, and I know that you're the most insightful person.
01:36Like, when you talk about things, you actually know exactly what you're talking about.
01:41So I think it baffles a lot of people because you're a woman, for one.
01:47And I'm just saying, like, you just, you're like a sponge of knowledge, and I love listening to you because I learn something.
01:56Every time I've ever listened to you or been on your show or whatever, I've always walked away going, wow, I didn't know that.
02:05You know, I've learned stuff.
02:07Well, that's an incredible compliment, and I really, really appreciate it.
02:12It's, I try to bring people clarity.
02:18I guess that's the best word I can find.
02:20Clarity.
02:21Because we live in a world that is incredibly unclear.
02:25It's, it's, it's, it's imaginary.
02:28There's so many ways I could describe the reality we live in.
02:32But there are some solids within this reality, and I'm one of these people that likes to find those solids.
02:39I dig them up.
02:41Mainly because I, I don't like it when patterns don't match up.
02:45I'm, it's kind of, it's not OCD, but it kind of is an OCD.
02:48Where, when something doesn't make sense to me, where, you know, somebody will say something, whether it be a politician, whether it be a Hollywood actor, whether it be a criminal that's been charged.
02:58When they say something, and it doesn't make sense, backing it up against all the other information that you've got.
03:07Right.
03:08I start looking at it going, okay, what do I need to find out to make this make sense?
03:12And that's usually the mission I'm on.
03:14How do I make this make sense?
03:16Because it doesn't right now.
03:17And everybody just buys it and runs with it.
03:20And it's like.
03:20Right.
03:22You look more deeply into it, because you don't, you're looking for the truth within the facts.
03:27Yes.
03:28And I've always been that way.
03:29That's why I was in the paranormal.
03:31I wasn't, and I am in the paranormal.
03:33It's not, I'm not a googly, oogie boogie type witch.
03:38I'm not a tree humping witch.
03:40I am a person who wants clarity.
03:43Right.
03:44And wants other people to understand, and in many ways not to be afraid.
03:49Because I think fear is something that really is detrimental to us and our growth.
03:54And I think we're taught to be afraid of a lot of things that if we didn't have that fear, we'd be so much further ahead than where we are.
04:06Oh, yeah.
04:06I mean, fear is like the root of all evil.
04:09It really is.
04:10People say it's money.
04:10Well, why do people want money?
04:12Because they're afraid to be poor.
04:14It's fear.
04:15So it's like, if you can conquer that.
04:18But it's so hard now, because there's so many homeless people.
04:23I know.
04:23And it's so sad.
04:26And I do get inspired when I watch the videos out there where people are giving away things to the homeless.
04:33They're actually making a difference.
04:35But I think what bothers me is that we, again, we're pushed into a situation where people who have worked hard and have put things aside and have done, you know, the footsteps of the American dream, I guess we'd say, are now not just paying taxes.
04:52But now they're trying to take care of others within society, which is a wonderful, trust me, it's a beautiful thing.
05:01And I do not hold it against it at all.
05:04But for a lot of them, it is virtue signaling.
05:08And it's fixing the problem.
05:11You know, like I say, the problem lies in the fact of where are the hundreds of billions of dollars we pay in taxes?
05:17Yeah.
05:18That should be taking care of this.
05:20We shouldn't, by what we pay in taxes, we shouldn't have anybody struggling.
05:24We shouldn't have a hungry person in the whole United States.
05:28And then they want to take food away from children when it comes to the school system, which that idea hit me in the back of the head because I thought, you can't do that to kids.
05:38You cannot harm our children.
05:40They're the next generation of people that are running this country.
05:44Why would you want us to neglect?
05:48Well, I think that comes down to your state.
05:50The state level, though, I mean, the federal, yeah, the federal level should not be feeding the children.
05:56It should be the state level.
05:57The state levels run the lotteries.
05:59They run all these programs that are supposed to be taking care of these things.
06:02And instead of it going to a state level, they send it to the federal level of Department of Education.
06:08And it gets laundered.
06:10And it gets washed in.
06:12Yeah.
06:12Yeah.
06:13So it's what they're talking about.
06:15And they have to do this guy and that guy and that guy and this guy.
06:18And you go through 10 people before you find out one person that still doesn't know anything.
06:22And that's the problem.
06:24And normal citizens, you know, they don't have the time, the wherewithal.
06:28And most of them, I got to be honest, a lot of people just really don't want to know because it's disgusting.
06:33And, you know, I think people feel like if maybe they had just paid attention and asked, hey, where's our state lottery money?
06:42Right.
06:42You know, they just questioned it.
06:44Nobody knows.
06:45It goes in another land.
06:48Yeah.
06:49We passed laws to allow lotteries that were earmarked for education.
06:53So if it's earmarked for education, how in God's name are we parents having to provide all of our kids school materials?
07:03How is that happening?
07:05How is that?
07:06What is going on?
07:07Strange.
07:08It's very strange because I think that they stopped thinking about human beings and just thought about, like, how they could pocket money.
07:19Because if you didn't, you know, there's a lot of corruption going on and that's based, that bottom line is always money.
07:26Yep.
07:27It's money and power.
07:29It's money and power.
07:31And that's what causes that.
07:34And like I said, there's a baseline to that, though.
07:36What causes that fear?
07:38Insecurity.
07:38Why do people want power?
07:40Because they're insecure.
07:41They are fearful.
07:43They have to, I call them ball bouncers, excuse my language.
07:47Like, but they like to bounce their balls on everybody else's head to prove there were something.
07:51And it's like, no.
07:53But you have some generous wealth people out there, too.
07:56And I won't take away from them.
07:58People who.
07:59Thank God, you're big people.
08:01Well, you know, I like, I know they love to hit Elon Musk, but I will tell you, he is probably one of the most generous billionaires you can possibly imagine.
08:10He gives to everything.
08:13He's very generous.
08:14He takes care of a lot of different subgroups, very heavily into autism and supporting, you know, the parents who have autistic kids, because that is something that is not even acknowledged half the time in this kind of life.
08:25Not really.
08:26No.
08:27You're right about that.
08:30I mean, and like I said, he's phenomenal with a lot of what he does.
08:35And he's very interactive and charismatic, which for somebody with his condition, he's Asperger's.
08:40So he is what we call high spectrum autism.
08:43Oh, yeah.
08:44And I know how that goes because I have a grandchild that is Asperger's.
08:50And a savant.
08:52I mean, the kid is just retardedly smart.
08:57Sounds adorable.
08:57I have to tell you, not really.
09:00Not really.
09:02No, it's not adorable.
09:03He's dangerous smart.
09:05And there's no emotional.
09:08Yeah, there's like, they don't, like he doesn't understand emotion correctly.
09:12He doesn't exhibit emotion correctly.
09:15That's part of it.
09:16But that's part of Asperger's.
09:17But like I said, there's not a lot of, I guess you could say, because they like to try to deny the autism issues in this country.
09:27And I've always said that.
09:28And I was, I've always been a very loud person when it came to, listen, this is not something that just happened naturally.
09:35This is not a natural mutation.
09:37Okay.
09:38This is something that came about because of what we're eating, because of what pharmaceuticals were taking and giving.
09:43And it, it happened, it started in like the late 80s and just progressed to the point now, I think it's one in every 10 or 15 kids has a form of autism.
09:55That's strange.
09:57Yeah.
09:58Something's in the water.
10:00Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
10:01And not only that, but if you go to other countries who don't have GMO foods and don't have the pharma circus, they don't have autism.
10:09Oh.
10:09It makes you think though, Nancy, because back like a hundred years ago, you never even knew, autism didn't even exist.
10:17That's what, that's.
10:18It may have one, like in so many families, but it wasn't like.
10:27Know anybody that had it or.
10:30But then if you did, you know, just like maybe one family on the edge of town.
10:35Yep.
10:36Or in most kids, I mean, there was differences too in discipline, like children generations ago were heavily disciplined.
10:43But in the same respect, they had a lot of freedom.
10:46You know, even our generation, we had a lot of freedom.
10:49I mean.
10:49I had tons of freedom.
10:51I was going to say, when the sun.
10:52I was going to say, the sun came up and mom and dad were like.
10:55Okay.
10:56So see you later, mom.
10:58Yeah.
10:58Mom and dad were like locking the door behind you as the sun was coming up and unlocking it as it was going down.
11:04But we were better then because we were really trusted.
11:07As long as we came home for supper, we were good.
11:09Correct.
11:10But that was it.
11:11And if you didn't come home for supper, you didn't get supper.
11:14You went to bed.
11:15That's it.
11:15If my family, if you didn't, weren't home by that time.
11:19Yep.
11:19You went to bed hungry.
11:20And that wasn't a form of torture.
11:22Remember that?
11:23Now today, God forbid, you get your kid without a meal.
11:26I, that's.
11:27But that's what I'm saying.
11:28But it taught us to appreciate coming home on time.
11:31It taught us to eat.
11:33We wanted to eat.
11:33Mom spent an hour cooking that.
11:35What is it?
11:36Yeah.
11:37Well, again.
11:38But it taught respect.
11:39It taught a lot of things that are not taught anymore.
11:43I mean, we have a society where in a school, you have a four or five year old kid who plays
11:47with a Barbie doll and they're suddenly transitioning the child to a different sex.
11:52And they're not telling the parents.
11:54That's a problem.
11:56Yeah.
11:56That's a huge problem.
11:57And again, I don't have an issue.
12:00If you're an adult person and you decide you are the wrong.
12:03That's up to you.
12:04That's up to you.
12:06That's up to you.
12:08A child is a child.
12:10Let them be a child.
12:11Now, if they want to choose pink pants, then let them wear their pink pants.
12:16But when it comes to speaking about cross-dressing and sexuality, this is almost like it's confused.
12:27It's not like it used to be where there's cross-dressing for the theater.
12:35They complicated it.
12:36They complicated it so badly.
12:39Yeah.
12:39And now Johnny wants to wear a dress to school.
12:42But Johnny's going to get picked on in school for wearing a dress.
12:46Because in the old days, boys would have beat each other up.
12:49And they would have.
12:51They just sort of.
12:51Yep.
12:52That would have been humiliation.
12:54And I don't.
12:55I got nothing to say against a person that is a cross-dresser.
12:59As long as they're a grown-up adult.
13:02I think that.
13:03Yep.
13:04Kids can dress the way they really feel comfortable.
13:07But if you're sending your kid to school in pink sweatpants.
13:11When they could still wear gray sweatpants.
13:15Because girls wear gray.
13:17You know, all I'm saying is like.
13:20Don't.
13:20It's a call.
13:21It's a call for an automatic failure.
13:23It's a call for attention.
13:27Internal.
13:28Like.
13:29Whatever makes them have pride in themselves.
13:32It's a.
13:33I look at it as it's parents that are.
13:36It's a call for attention.
13:38Yeah.
13:38And the thing is.
13:40Is that.
13:41You can't control.
13:42Whether it's going to be positive or negative attention.
13:45That's.
13:46You can make as many laws as you want.
13:48You can do as many things as you want.
13:50But society is society is society.
13:52And there's certain things that you're never going to be able to pound into them.
13:56No matter how hard you cry.
13:58It's not going to happen.
14:00If you just.
14:01Like nobody bothered transgenders.
14:03Until they made it an issue.
14:05It's only an issue.
14:06Because they're crossing the fact that.
14:08Yes.
14:09That clothing.
14:10Has something to do with sexuality.
14:12Correct.
14:14And.
14:14And that.
14:15All right.
14:16Clothing does have something to do with sexuality.
14:17If it's lingerie.
14:19But children have no business in doing.
14:23I was going to say.
14:23In colors.
14:25In colors that were deemed for the female deemed for the male.
14:28Not that long ago.
14:29Nancy.
14:30I started wearing purple.
14:32They actually wear pink button up dress up shirts.
14:35Not bright future.
14:36But I'm talking like a nice light pale pink.
14:40And it looks good.
14:42Pink and gray look great together.
14:44As far as I'm concerned.
14:45Very pretty.
14:46Yep.
14:47But that.
14:48If a guy's got a pink button up shirt.
14:50I'm not going to like go.
14:52Oh my God.
14:53He.
14:53Is he.
14:55Oh no.
14:55Especially if he's tan.
14:57If a guy's wearing a pink button up.
14:59Got a good tan.
15:00That looks really nice.
15:02I mean.
15:03You know.
15:03It's a color.
15:04It's a color.
15:04And next.
15:05That'll be like.
15:06Not down.
15:07Saying.
15:08Oh guys.
15:08Shouldn't wear this.
15:09Color.
15:09Girls.
15:10Shouldn't wear this color.
15:11I don't know.
15:12I know a lot of girls.
15:13Who look great in blue.
15:16Yeah.
15:17Exactly.
15:17And.
15:18I don't understand.
15:20Like the whole.
15:21I think they mixed it up though.
15:22They.
15:23Instead of being.
15:25Something sort of like light hearted.
15:27They.
15:28Threw sex into it.
15:29And as soon as you throw that.
15:31Topic in.
15:32It.
15:33Degrades everything.
15:34Sadly.
15:35That's how we're created.
15:36And then they started great.
15:38That's how we're going to.
15:39Degraded.
15:39So now I'm a poet.
15:41Well.
15:41I mean.
15:42Think about it.
15:43When they started.
15:44When we were in school.
15:45We got sex education.
15:46When we were in high school.
15:48I think.
15:49Oh wow.
15:49We were junior year.
15:51And even then.
15:52I was going to say.
15:53Even then.
15:53It was a freaking giggle fest.
15:55The whole class.
15:56I mean.
15:57One girl starts off.
15:58And then everybody goes.
15:59Oh jeez.
16:01Yeah.
16:01But now.
16:02These kids are being started.
16:04Yep.
16:05These kids are starting.
16:06Third and fourth grade now though.
16:08With sex education.
16:10Yeah.
16:10They did.
16:11But then again.
16:12When I was.
16:14Like 10 years old.
16:15One of the girls.
16:1510 years old.
16:16Started.
16:17So she was.
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