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00:30This is the Debbie Perkins Radio Show, and here's your host, Debbie Perkins.
01:00Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the Hollywood Red Copic Radio Show.
01:04I'm Debbie Perkins. I'm your host, and I have a really interesting guest, two guests, this week.
01:09I've got Jack Carey, who's a director of zoology, and I've got Siren Wind, who is, I want to say, galactic energies and, you know, lots of information on that.
01:20So we'll figure out how that works. Jack, you know who she is.
01:25But welcome to the show, and thank you so much for joining us.
01:28Yeah, well, thank you for having me. I'm glad to be here today. So, how have you been doing?
01:35Great, great. And you're so busy with all these tours that you're involved with.
01:41But tell the audience a little bit about yourself.
01:45Okay, well, I've been a field investigator into not only cryptozoology, but really all things paranormal for 30 plus years now.
01:57I'm the founder of the Paranormal Intelligence Agency, and I've been on quite a few docuseries that were produced by Gaia, which a lot of people may know me from.
02:14But, um, the, uh, looks like we have a guest here.
02:21That might be her.
02:23Hi.
02:25Hi, Siren.
02:26Yeah, hi, Siren.
02:28Hi.
02:28Hi.
02:29Jack's doing a quick introduction, and when he's finished, you can actually stop in and introduce yourself, and we'll just roll with the show.
02:38Okay, perfect.
02:40Yeah, sounds good.
02:43Well, I guess for the past 30 years, I've been busy sort of trying to develop new exotic theories, hypothesis surrounding paranormal phenomenon,
02:55and try to get a better view of, uh, you know, of the, of the totality of the mystery of paranormal phenomenon on this planet.
03:04So, um, and today I'm, well, these days I'm primarily involved, uh, by having my own radio show, Paranormal Intelligence Agency radio.
03:17Wednesday nights at 7 p.m.
03:18You can find us if you want to get spooked out of your mind, because we approach some pretty scary subjects.
03:25We love that.
03:26Yeah.
03:28So, but yeah, that's me.
03:30So.
03:31Wonderful.
03:32Now, Siren, um, tell everybody who you are and, and a little bit about what you do.
03:38Sure.
03:38Um, I'm Siren Wind.
03:40I've been working with frequency, sound, tone, and energy since, uh, really since I was a child.
03:46Uh, working with, um, just the telepathic information I was receiving, I could feel the colors and the shapes of energy.
03:54I would, I would watch my tone of my voice change energy.
03:57So I started really exploring and, um, you know, you want to say playing around with as a child to understand how I could tone or I could hum and it was changing my environment.
04:09So, um, through, through the sound and the tone and also, um, art and geometry, I would layer different imagery and feel how it was basically creating anything from nothing or transforming into something different through, through the layering.
04:25So that came into my healing, uh, healing works, working with frequency, sound, tone with others, and then creating books where they're activating for people to activate their remembrances of, of, you know, anywhere they've, they've ever been, um, you know, knowledge they have within them, other times, other lifetimes, et cetera.
04:46Uh, so, yeah, that's really interesting.
04:51It really is.
04:51And you cross over to the paranormal a little bit.
04:56Well, yeah, I've always, I, I mean, I never really guessed it, perceived it as paranormal because since I was a child, I just felt an access to the other dimensional planes.
05:05Um, and through, you know, through, you know, through just feeling that source connection, I could feel other, um, realms or other energies around.
05:15So, um, you know, and depending on what, you know, octave or dimension of frequency would shift between, I could see different energies, perceive different, um, beings or sine waves, um, which I wouldn't call it that as a child, but, you know, different energy, uh, waves, different color waves, um, present.
05:35And, uh, in that way, so that, that began very early on.
05:40Now, Jack, do you, um, do you work in more of a technical or are you more spiritual?
05:47Uh, you know, more technical, um, where I'm big on, on tracing physical evidence and, um, you know, really the sort of provenance or the chain of custody of evidence.
06:03Um, the best evidence, um, the best evidence, I guess, that's out there for any given paranormal phenomenon, but no, primarily interested in physical evidence because in my, you know, experience over 30 years, physical evidence is the only thing that really convinces a, uh, you know, an unsympathetic populace that a lot of these phenomenon are real, you know?
06:32Um, so many people are still skeptics and a lot of skeptics are like, if you notice, there's a lot of people out there that go, I didn't even believe in that until it happened to me.
06:44Right, right.
06:45And then all of a sudden they're a hundred percent believing because they had an experience.
06:51Right, and that's been my experience.
06:55I know I, I have a good case when the primary witness involved in the case starts to make profound life changes because of the experience that they had.
07:08That's when you know that something truly occurred that is supernatural.
07:13Um, and so, you know, we've had a number of those cases over the years, but these days I, I try to examine, you know, new theories and evidence and discoveries in the paranormal world.
07:28Things like the so-called hitchhiker effect, which many people have never heard of before, but it's been discovered by some of the world's best scientists who were involved at like Skinwalker Ranch.
07:41And with the Pentagon's OSAP program having to do with the now, they call them unidentified aerial phenomenon instead of UFOs, but the Pentagon's program had a number of scientists that were sort of working on stuff at Skinwalker Ranch at the same time that they were working on the Pentagon's program.
08:04Oh, wow.
08:05And they would study the UFO phenomenon, right, all day long.
08:09These are hard-boiled scientists and intelligence agents.
08:13There were a lot of intelligence agents involved in all of this.
08:17And they would go home from a long, hard day of studying the UAP evidence that they had only to experience a wide array of other kinds of paranormal activity beginning to manifest all around them.
08:31In other words, they, you know, imagine you're an intelligence agent with the highest top secret clearance you can imagine.
08:38And then you're, you're, you have, you're the guy, you have access to all that information and you're studying that every day.
08:43And then at night you go home and all of a sudden there's poltergeist activity.
08:47There's full shadow entities walking across the room.
08:51There's material objects that just blink into existence and blink back out of existence.
08:57And I might add, it culminated in the Pentagon's program with a encounter with an actual dogman creature.
09:08All of this was chronicled in the book, Skinwalkers at the Pentagon, that was written by Dr. Colm Kelleher and the famous journalist George Knapp, the guy who broke the story of Area 51, wrote a book called Skinwalkers at the Pentagon, in which they chronicle all of this information for people that want to do a deep dive.
09:29But yeah, there was an intelligence agent walking the grounds at Skinwalker Ranch with a couple of other guys, a couple of scientists, and it was at nighttime.
09:40And they came across an entity that was non-corporal.
09:45It didn't have a body, but they could feel the energy, the presence, the strength of this thing.
09:51And it emitted pure terror in them.
09:55It basically caused them to freeze in fear, right?
09:59Simultaneous to that, a thousand miles away, the intelligence agent's wife, in her home near Langley, Virginia, which is where the CIA headquarters is, went to her sink to get a glass of water.
10:17And it's approximately 3 a.m.
10:19And in the morning, and she looks out across her property and sees an upright, canine-headed, bipedal dogman creature standing next to one of her trees, staring at her through the window.
10:35Right?
10:35She thinks she's going insane.
10:37She doesn't say anything.
10:38She's petrified, however.
10:40And then a couple of days later, the two teenagers in the home are midday, 10 a.m. in the morning, so mid-morning, in the game room of the house.
10:50They notice movement at the window.
10:52They look up to see this dogman creature staring in at them.
10:58Their first reaction wasn't to run away.
11:01It was to run right to the window, which they did.
11:04And they could see this creature running away, kicking up leaves as it went.
11:09So this was a physical, in-the-body creature is what they're calling the hitchhiker effect.
11:19And it worked like a paranormal virus, right?
11:22And this is where it gets crazy, is these people would take it home, and all of a sudden it would begin to affect their spouses, then their children, then their neighbors, then their neighbor's children, then their neighbor's children's friends.
11:35And it went out like a virus, and concentric circles from there.
11:41That's crazy.
11:42That's scary.
11:43Right.
11:45Now, Simon, do you have any input on this?
11:47Because you work with galactic energies.
11:49Well, I have experienced a lot of different, like, I guess I would even call it like a shapeshifter in a way, too.
11:59Like, it kind of reminds me of what you're saying with the dog, you know, dog-like figure, where they kind of, I want to say, blurb in and out, where you can kind of perceive them.
12:10But then there's, you know, but it's not an energy that feels pleasant, you know, by any means.
12:16It's very, you could say, scary, the energy or how they kind of come in or what it feels like they're actually doing.
12:25But, yeah, I've perceived that before in certain areas where it feels like there's either portals or, like, energy's wobbly or there's, like, a time warp or a couple overlays.
12:35A lot of times it's in these military areas where there's tunnels, different systems going on where, you know, the public, the general public doesn't know about.
12:44But they're manipulating different frequencies and or even, you know, kind of pummeling, you want to say, lower frequency tones through these areas so that people aren't all the way there where they feel like they're really conscious and aware of what's going on.
13:01Because the frequency is so low that it's creating all this distortion.
13:07And that's when I've noticed those kinds of energies.
13:12I think that's really interesting.
13:14What do you think, Jack?
13:17Well, yeah, and, you know, talking to a sensitive like Siren is fascinating for a paranormal investigator.
13:24Because they have a whole set of sensory input that can't be duplicated and you can't, you know, there's no way to tinker around and create a device that can sense the same thing that these people are able to sense and to pick up.
13:43And so that's always fascinating.
13:44And we have to remember that really our concept of reality is made up of vibration, frequency, and sound.
13:54Right.
13:55You know, it's all made up.
13:57It looks like matter to us, but it's vibrating energy.
14:01And so it makes a lot of sense for somebody to be able to, you know, to sense that in different areas and places.
14:10Well, and the other thing, too, is some of these areas with the earthquakes and the earth opening, like physically opening up, energetically opening up with the pure energies that we're receiving as the earth frequencies are rising.
14:24These, like, physical areas are opening, quaking open.
14:28And, like, I had this experience in my house I used to live at where my cats, I have two cats.
14:37They were running around chasing what I could feel like was this boisterous energy that was, like, fluorescent.
14:44And it literally felt like it wasn't harmful in any kind of way.
14:48But it was, like, it came up from the ground because there was an opening and it was so excited to, like, you know, move around and be free that it was bouncing off the walls so fast.
14:59And my cats could sense that clearly I could feel it and it didn't feel like anything other than, like, that would be harmful, other than, like, it got almost, like, lost, like, it got out.
15:11And it was, like, where am I and bouncing inside of this building?
15:16And that's happening a lot, too, with, like, the oil drilling, especially in Texas where things are opening up or, you know, other oil drilling, too.
15:25Energy is opening up.
15:26It's quaking open.
15:27There's mudslides.
15:28And all the inner earth beings, all the inner earth energies, you know, crystalline, you know, cities and everything that's been within for so long since the consciousness fell and has been, you know, parallelly coexisting is now coming to release.
15:46And I want to give back to those that have awareness to do that again, you know, as we harmonize and come into oneness, that some that can perceive are feeling and sensing all these energies that have really been on all these different planes the whole time.
16:02But they're making themselves more known as the earth is opening, which is really fascinating.
16:09That's an amazing point of view.
16:12Yeah.
16:13Well, I sense that so much because everything is opening.
16:17And a lot of times when I'm traveling or even moving, you might say moving about, you know, being relocated to where I feel magnetized to be, you know, for a project or something like that, it's working with the earth energies.
16:30And what I'm noticing more and more with the earth energies is that there are, you know, all these different civilizations that one could say that they've ascended, you know, in these other time periods, say native people, etc.
16:45They took their bodies with, they took their bodies with, but their energies are underground, you know, they're living right there.
16:51And all of the parallel layers of the other beings that are alongside them or say, you know, interdimensional travel or the other things that are opening people either interfering directly with portals, you know, or doing ceremonial things, opening holes where they don't belong.
17:08Or the military stuff, too, is a lot of wobbly energy where things are coming through, like, not desirable, you know, the shapeshifter things and that, you know, I'm trying to think of a term.
17:22I remember hearing in Northern Arizona about, was it Skinwalkers, I think it was, but there's a lot of people that were having experiences where they were seeing that because there's these openings and they're not desirable energies that are meandering through, you know, through the layers, depending on what you can sense, feel, or even see sometimes, or they'll move, you know, move objects.
17:48It can be a lot to interact with or just witness because you have some of the, that you don't want to, right?
17:56You know, you don't want to, you don't want to start interacting with some of those things and receive an attachment.
18:03Now, Jack, would you say that the Skinwalker, because a lot of people have heard about Skinwalker Ranch, but there are people out there that are uneducated on what that is.
18:14Could you explain what that is, and are these entities that they're experiencing, are they on a negative level, or are they neutral, or what would you, what would your best advice be on that type of sort of situation?
18:31Because it's a unique situation.
18:33It is, and Skinwalker Ranch is its own sort of unique, I guess, case in a way because of the nature of the consciousness that appears to be on that property.
18:50But it's interesting that, you know, it got the name Skinwalker Ranch because the indigenous people there associate anything paranormal with skinwalkers.
19:04But having, I've done a ton of investigation work on Navajo Indian reservations, and that's really the, where skinwalkers come from is the Navajo culture.
19:17And in their culture, they believe that there is a, you know, a group of dark practicing witches, a coven, if you will, that's been operating within the Navajo Nation for eons, for centuries.
19:35And that they have very powerful abilities, and, you know, they have to actually go through nefarious acts and things.
19:46They have to basically murder a family member to be able to get into the coven, and then that's actually held over them as a way of getting them never to leave and never to relinquish any of the secrets of the Skinwalker witches, right?
20:04But you have other things that are shapeshifters that aren't Navajo Skinwalker witches.
20:11It just so happens you have a group of people that practice a form of really dark witchcraft that allows them the ability to shapeshift.
20:20But that's different than a shapeshifting.
20:23I mean, we suspect there are actual creatures out there that are much like the, you know, they're a species of octopus in the ocean, like the mimic octopus, can pretend to be many different animals, take their shape, take their form, take their color, take all of that.
20:42And I'm in the opinion that there are probably land creatures very much like that, that we don't even suspect, because every time we come across them, they're camouflaged to something else.
20:58Right.
20:59And they blend in.
21:01Right.
21:02So you don't even know, probably don't, like, like cloaking.
21:07Right.
21:07Like they're wearing a cloaking cloak or whatever, and you can't see them.
21:13And I think a long time ago I asked somebody about, is there a possibility that some of these beings could be, because they have this amazing cloaking device, could they be aliens instead of ghosts?
21:26Right.
21:28Right.
21:29And it's, you know, I mean, things are so weird.
21:33Yeah.
21:34Things are so weird at Skinwalker Ranch.
21:36I've entertained the notion that it may be it's haunted by the ghost of an alien of some kind.
21:44Because.
21:44Is that some of its energy?
21:47Yeah, because of just the trickster nature.
21:50It's conscious.
21:51It knows when the people leave the ranch, and then it plays with the cameras.
21:56It, you know, at one point it took three thousand pound bulls and stuffed them all into a tiny little trailer while everybody was gone.
22:05And when they came back, they couldn't find their prized bulls.
22:08And then they found the bulls all stuffed into a trailer that would normally only fit one.
22:13And they were in a hypnotic state.
22:17They've had instances where, you know, cattle have been mutilated on a number of occasions on that ranch.
22:24And one of the weirdest pieces of evidence, I think, comes from security video footage.
22:33So they eventually put security cameras in every room all throughout the ranch, right?
22:38Because of the weird stuff that was going on.
22:41And in one of those footages, they caught one of the computer screens in one of the rooms flickering on.
22:50And a message appeared on the screen.
22:55And the message was, I live.
22:58Oh.
23:00That is strange.
23:02That is frightening.
23:03I would still run away from there.
23:05I would not say.
23:07What would you do, Simon?
23:08I would do the same, and I probably wouldn't return.
23:15Well, you know.
23:16Oh, go ahead.
23:17Go ahead.
23:18I said that's scary.
23:20Yeah.
23:21I mean, to me, it comes across as a little bit on the demonic negative side.
23:26So, to me, it's like, it's too frightening, you know?
23:31I mean, and not that our connection with extraterrestrials should be all positive, because that would be ridiculous to even think that.
23:41But to be more on the fear factor, scaring people, making people go grab a gun just to, like, protect their properties and whatnot.
23:54I mean, what kind of trouble can we get ourselves into if we experience something like this and it frightens us to the point where we take up arms against it because we think it could be some weirdo in a costume out there.
24:07But it's actually a being that we don't understand, and we haven't had a chance to.
24:13Maybe the government knows about this stuff because they know about stuff we're not allowed to know, but we don't know.
24:19So, we don't know how to react as a human being to these types of energetic beings, so to say, or even the energy that can come from, like, like Simon talks about, like, the energy and how it's connected to all these things.
24:37And then on top of these beings, and then on top of to us.
24:39So, how do we prevent ourselves from going to war against these things when we don't know that these, and it's happening, there's more things happening left and right.
24:50People are always filming the sky now.
24:52If you didn't know, it's, like, people are obsessed with stars that flick and groups of lights in the sky are combining, and then they're separating.
25:03You know what I'm talking about, you guys?
25:06Oh, yeah.
25:07UFO, UAP activity is really, really going on crazy right now.
25:13I think it's off the charts because we all have it in the internet, and we have the opportunity to be able to see the things that people would normally talk and log, but not really, like, make the big-time news unless something dramatic happened.
25:26And then, like, the shooting down of the aircrafts back, what was it, a year ago, Mark?
25:31Yeah, something like that.
25:35Well, they were, it wasn't the aircraft, it was drones.
25:40See, and that's another whole thing.
25:45Like, they know our technology.
25:46They know how smart we are or how dumb we are.
25:49They can tap into our satellite systems.
25:52I'm almost positive that they are more highly intelligent than we could even imagine being.
25:56And then you guys saw that recently they posted about that big telescope, seeing all those multiple galaxies.
26:05Like, we'll never be alone.
26:08We're going to be bothered for the rest of our lives as long as we're here.
26:11Because I think that those, they're going to notice that this is an active planet.
26:17This is a planet that has life in abundance and just biochemicals of humans to animals to, like, we're surviving, we're living, we're thriving.
26:30But for how long, you know?
26:32And then we got these beings that are well aware of us because they're probably older than the human race.
26:39And I would say that they might have a lot more intelligence than us because we're babies, if you ask me.
26:47Human races are babies.
26:49We're all learning.
26:50Well, they're probably, you know, light years ahead of us with the educational knowledge of life.
26:59You know what I'm saying?
27:00Yeah, well, and the problem really that's going to come about with UFO alien disclosure, which is going to happen very, very soon, it's almost to a breaking point.
27:17And we call it catastrophic disclosure for a reason because they've had ample amount of time to sort of release this and that to warm the public up for what's coming.
27:27But the real problem is that this non-human intelligence will have a superior ontological understanding of the universe.
27:37It will have a better understanding of the true nature of what created the universe and how that creation actually works, right?
27:48That's going to come into direct conflict with existing geographically based belief systems that we have on this planet.
28:00And most religions on this planet are geographically based.
28:03They developed in geographic areas according to the needs of that particular populace.
28:09And all of that gets wiped clean in a single, single move.
28:15What does a species do then?
28:19Because when you look back into the history of humanity, we see example after example of collapsed societies, advanced societies, you know, ancient Egypt, the Mayan, the Roman Empire.
28:38It goes on and on, all of them were preceded by a collapse in the belief system, which gave birth to that society.
28:48And so when you come across a, you know, a life form that has a completely superior belief system to anything you've conceived of before, how do you as a species survive at that point?
29:02And that's called ontological shock.
29:06And there's plenty of us in the ufology community that are really, really worried about the depth of that ontological shock when it comes.
29:15And it's coming very soon.
29:17I mean, over the course of the next few months.
29:20Wow.
29:21Now, what, Simon, do you feel some of that, like what he's talking about?
29:24Do you feel the energies are changing?
29:27What is your advice on helping people to understand what's happening?
29:31Because like you said, there's a lot going on with all the volcanoes.
29:36Now we're dealing with war.
29:38You know, you guys all realize what just happened recently with Trump and, you know, and all those bombs going off.
29:46I mean, for every time we bump the earth, I mean, I'm thinking that that's going to change something.
29:52Well, that's what's important about being, you know, being essentially being here now is that we're all energy and we're frequency, we're vibration.
30:03So what we're vibrating is the change of how we can stabilize, how we can help transform and how we can shift versus going into this fear frequency.
30:16Because the fear frequency is very low vibration, right?
30:20It's a low frequency.
30:22And that has a completely different dynamic and impact to others.
30:27And if we're remaining in our heart as much as possible, tuning into love and all the pure tone energies, which we're actually receiving very pure tone, high frequency, light codes, sun codes, plasma, pure energy.
30:44And instead of getting vacuumed, so to speak, into these fear energies, we can actually realize the vastness of the cosmos.
30:57There's so many beings.
30:59There's so many civilizations.
31:00Nobody even really, not nobody, but many people don't know about.
31:04We're going to come to find out who all our relatives are.
31:08I know it's shocking to some to know, you know, we're not the only ones here, right?
31:14It's shocking to some people, but the truth is that it must be revealed.
31:20And it is because we all are to co-create and create a new world that's not this duality confusion that's been overlaid for so long.
31:33And I think the more that the pure tone energy is arriving and the more people are awakening through these waves of high energy, that they're opening to realize that what's been told and, you know, projected in these stories, that doesn't add up.
31:51You know, and all these distraction creations of these dynamics of duality or war or even, you know, scarcity with this monetary, all of that, it's all been created to create the quantity of fear frequency, which is a limited.
32:11I mean, you look at the fear, that energy, your heart field is so small when it's vibrating that way or vibrating so slowly and to really dissolve all of that through this potential.
32:27We really have the potential to shift out of that, which we are, and some may choose not to do that or may not stay, you know, through these transitions, but we're returning to unity consciousness.
32:41That's what this is all catalyzing to.
32:43It's just really, no matter what is being projected, what's being shown or what kind of goofy stories they're showing themselves as, as like goofy stories, aren't they?
32:54Like some of them are so unbelievable of, of some of these things that are coming to light, the truth coming to light, that it's starting to, to wave through like, well, how did we not see this before?
33:07You know, how this is so obvious, how it's been, you know, hijacked and created and overlaid in confusion for control, you know, to create these, this or that, you know, polarities, dualities, one against the other for those specific intentions to prolong the inevitable as humanity finding out its divine, true nature.
33:32I think that's incredible.
33:36I love the way you think about that.
33:38And I think that's great advice for like people who are trying to learn about what's going on.
33:43The both of you have such great insights on what you're talking about.
33:46And I think it's very interesting to honestly, I've, I've heard some of what you've talked about in the past, but never in such depth, if that makes sense.
33:56And Jack, now, what are the other things that you are dealing with, because you're, you're doing a lot of tours, and people are going to ask you a million questions, I'm quite sure.
34:08That's what happens when they ask you a whole bunch of questions.
34:12And that, I mean, it's a given, and because everybody thinks you know all the answers, but you know some of the answers, and you know the ones that are the most important to you, which, of course, will roll over to everybody else.
34:24But what are some important things that you do that, that people would like to know about you?
34:32Well, you know, for 30 years, I did all kinds of field investigations.
34:37And these days, I'm able to kind of pick and choose when I do a field investigation.
34:43And a lot of my time is spent, well, writing books.
34:47So I have 10 published books on paranormal phenomenon that are out there and available for people.
34:55And, you know, for a long time, I've been trying to develop these different theories as to what might be taking place.
35:05And to kind of, you know, segue over to what Siren was saying was that, you know, we're basically in a stage, a planetary cycle known as the Kali Yuga.
35:21And the Kali Yuga is an interesting thing.
35:25It takes us through dark ages, but it also takes us through ages of divine enlightenment.
35:31And we go through golden ages and things like that, right?
35:34Well, for about the last 360 years or so, we've been on the ascending part of that cycle in the Kali Yuga.
35:44Now, to make, to give a visual of what that means when you're on the planet, because that's really what it meant, what matters,
35:52is the Earth is basically, a lot of the time, there is a debris field that blocks the Earth from the center of the galaxy.
36:02There's something going on at the center of the galaxy that is divine in nature.
36:09It's made up of, we don't even know how many stars, but there is a type of harmonic vibration that emanates from galactic center.
36:21And when it does, it appears as though it affects life on all the planets in that particular galaxy.
36:29This is like a natural mechanism.
36:32Well, think of it like the Earth going through a rotation where it pops up above this little debris field for a while.
36:40And when it does, it gets bombarded by these rays from galactic center.
36:45And when we get bombarded, everything goes good.
36:49People get smarter.
36:50People live longer.
36:52Breakthroughs happen.
36:54There's golden ages that occur.
36:56All of these great things occur in that stage of the Kali Yuga, right?
37:01Because we're receiving bombardment from these amazing divine, you know, energies.
37:06Then we go back around again through the debris field.
37:11And that causes another dark age to occur where people actually literally get dumber.
37:17And they're all, you know, society begins to devolve instead of evolve.
37:23We've seen that in the past, right?
37:25And then you pop out the bottom of the debris field where you get bombarded again by these rays.
37:31And this cycle occurs over and over again.
37:34And this was called the Kali Yuga.
37:36But that's exactly what's happening on a planetary scale.
37:40And so we're on the ascending part.
37:43We're now getting bombarded by these cosmic rays.
37:46But, you know, the web bot's telling us we're kind of still in that chaotic phase.
37:51We're coming out of that chaotic phase to some really amazing breakthroughs.
37:55But it's going to be turbulent for a little while here.
37:58Yeah, because I don't think we need any more dumber people.
38:01Right.
38:02I don't think we need any more of them.
38:04Because, honestly, when you said it makes people dumber, the thought that came to my head was like,
38:10we've already got enough dumb people.
38:13We don't need more.
38:14You know, like, we honestly, we need people that focus on wonderful things and learning,
38:21like you folks are teaching everybody today about, you know, what you do
38:25and how things perceive through your thought process.
38:30And I think that's educational.
38:32But, dumber people, we don't need any more.
38:36We got plenty of crazy, too.
38:39We sure do.
38:40We sure do.
38:40But I think that healing energies can help.
38:43And, Simon, you know a lot about the healing energies on top of the, what do you call it,
38:51the sound waves or what was it we were talking about the other day was learning how to work with these energies.
39:01Well, and that's what we get the opportunity right now to do is because what that chaotic, I guess you could say,
39:10call it that way, that's happening is all of the distortionary energy that either people are holding in their body,
39:17in their energy bodies, in their fields, in the earth, like, and beyond, beyond, beyond,
39:23like, all of that is getting pummeled with pure tone cosmic frequencies and source energy.
39:30And what that's doing is it's vibrating any distortion to come up, to discharge, to transform, to dissolve,
39:38to release, to reconfigure, you know, recalibrate, put into divine right order.
39:44And seeing those things for what they are, you know, whether it appears like somebody's being triggered, you know,
39:52and having something physically go on or, you know, an ailment, a disease, or, you know, a mudslide, a fire, et cetera,
40:01it's ultimately doing so as, like Jack was saying, part of the cycle to purify and to clarity and give us that opportunity to transform it
40:13because we really all are, we're all sound healers, we're all energy transformers, we're all frequency transformers,
40:21we have that innate ability and awareness.
40:24And when we're in those experiences or even if we're watching, you know, somebody talk about, say, something tragic
40:32or something happening, an illness to somebody, we can still perceive it in a way that's transformative.
40:41Like, we have the ability in any moment to decide how do we want to transform this?
40:46How can we maybe neutralize a pattern, see something in our lives that we can clear, reconfigure, maybe, you know,
40:53start something different or realize something that's falling away, you know, people are talking about their jobs falling away
40:59or they need to move, they need to do all these things differently, you know,
41:03and it's really for their benefit happening for them so they can see maybe there's a path that's different.
41:11You know, maybe there's something that needs to come up that needs to clear, known or unknown,
41:16could be from another life or who knows where, you know, ancestral, et cetera,
41:21but it's coming up for a reason to dissolve away.
41:24So in these instances, we can look at that and feel again, right?
41:30Because a lot of the distortions and the distractions were to numb feeling, to be too busy to feel,
41:36to not see it because, you know, we're on the cycle of the wheel, the hamster wheel doing the same thing.
41:41But when you pause, when there's an emergency or an instance, you want to say a tragedy, a health issue, et cetera,
41:49or, you know, a natural, you know, disaster, if you want to call it that way,
41:53it's like that's the pause button to see something so visibly to have that opportunity to feel,
42:02well, how can we transform from this, even our perception or our own body's sense?
42:08Like, well, where does my, you know, my shoulder hurts for, you know, just making up an example,
42:15but my shoulder hurts, well, what might that symbology be?
42:18What can I let go of?
42:20Or where might this be coming from?
42:22Or where do, you know, have grief, et cetera?
42:24And working with that directly because we can find out through stillness or pause
42:31or something getting obliterated away where you're literally standing there within yourself
42:38that you can go within and find all the answers, how to transmute, how to transform,
42:43how to change your mind, how to change your life,
42:46which in turn will change everyone else's life, whether you're aware of it or not.
42:52So, tuning into the energies that are in your life, something's not feeling harmonic,
42:59not feeling harmonized, how can we work with that to take our sovereignty back,
43:08which we've always been, but there's some layers of forgotten, you know, overlay to distract from that,
43:16but come into realization that we can actually transform it ourself.
43:20What do we want to do differently?
43:22That's true.
43:24That's amazing.
43:25And Jack, now, some of what she says, how can that cross over and help with paranormal?
43:31Because I think that it kind of goes hand in hand because what she's talking about is working with energies,
43:38which are, we're all beings, we're all energy-based.
43:41We are, and, you know, a lot of my research these days, I think that's valuable insight.
43:51And for a lot of people, over the course of the next few months, there's going to be a lot of turbulence coming about.
44:02One of the things I do is track cyber prophecies through a mechanism.
44:09It's a series of algorithms designed called the web bot, and it's mixed with a lot of other things like artificial intelligence and Vedic astrology and things like that.
44:18But it's been highly accurate in the past predicting various events.
44:23And it's saying over the next few months or so, there's going to be a very turbulent period for people where everything is challenged.
44:34And basically, it's saying, you know, all of the stress points that we've had since May up till present day, you can take all of those stress points.
44:47You're going to get all of that many points again just in July, but ratcheted up another 50% on top of that, right?
44:56And there's all of these cross currents and cross winds taking place.
45:01There's going to be a lot of economic turmoil.
45:04There's going to be some interesting things take place.
45:08It doesn't, however, predict any sort of World War III, which is interesting.
45:12Those conflicts sort of fizzle out according to its predictions, and much bigger changes kind of wash over humanity in a very short period of time that's coming.
45:25So I think that's amazing.
45:27I think, and I think this is such a, the show today to me feels like it's been needed.
45:34Like, I think people need to know these things.
45:37What both of you have offering the public, I think is huge on both levels.
45:43On her, on your level, Siren, and as well on yours.
45:47You know what I'm saying?
45:48I mean, like, I think that Jack and both you, Jack, and Siren have so much to offer people at this point in time for knowledge.
45:57I think the show is meant to happen.
46:01No, that's great.
46:02I love talking about it.
46:05Oh, absolutely.
46:06Well, I think that it's the right timing.
46:11I think that people need to know now, before any more happens, before it gets any, before we look up at the skies and something's actually parking itself in your backyard.
46:23Learning a little more about what's going on up there, and not just, like, physically.
46:33I'm talking emotionally, like, because if you didn't notice, I swear to God, people feel, I feel like Mercury has never left retrograde ever.
46:42I mean, like, you could go to the most calm place in the world, like a library, just like, and there's going to be one angry person that's going to change your energy.
46:59You might have walked in there with intentions of happiness and joy, and then you'd just run into that one person that world rubbed them wrong all week.
47:10And then they leave you with their energy, and then you walk out of there going, ugh, you know, the energy of frustration and anger, and then your mood changes.
47:24Are you guys experiencing that?
47:25Is that just me and my little world?
47:29No, I totally believe that's true, and, you know, more and more people are becoming empathic in that way, so.
47:36Well, it has to come out, all the distortion, all of it, anywhere underneath any rug, any dust, any dust bunnies, anything that needs clearing on any layer level, internal, everything is a mirror, right?
47:54So, if something is externally going on, internally, it's basically the soul screaming to let it out, to release it.
48:02They've been carrying it too long, and that's happening with the Earth, too, but everything that's distorted has to clear so we can rebuild, so we can, you know, recalibrate, so we can build everything all the way down to the base, but all the way within the core.
48:19It has to be all the way within, that's why even the internal core of the Earth is clearing, you know, the oil sliding around through the drilling, and the, you know, the rise of all these sediments that have been buried in these ancient cities we're finding out about.
48:34Everything that has been embedded energetically within the Earth, of the traumas in the Earth has to come clear.
48:42So, it's going to be, especially this transitionary time, I feel like really between now and 27, 2027, it's going to all have to clear out to reconfigure.
48:54This is a huge transitionary time, so it's going to be a little loud with the energy that needs to die, essentially, and dissolve, completely collapse, has to, to come into right order.
49:07It has to come completely pure, so it might be a little loud, it might be a little, a little ugly, you want to say, energetically sometimes, because people are popping, you know, their, their, their balloons are getting popped, because they've been holding that stuff so long.
49:22So is the Earth, you know, all these layers of these different, you know, galactic wars, wars on Earth, you know, different continents shifting, planets blowing up, stars colliding, all that's embedded somewhere and has to be cleared.
49:39And some of these energies you were talking about before with the, like the, the shape, you know, shape shifters per se, but, you know, the other energies that feel kind of in the, in the negative realm, those, a lot of those energies are trying to express to clear and come into right order too.
49:56They're, you know, they're, you know, say they're, you know, say they're trapped energies somewhere, or somebody didn't entirely cross over, or, you know, another energy doing whatever it's doing.
50:06It's, it's essentially trying to express to get something or someone that can hear it to help them reconfigure.
50:14So we have the ability to help the Earth clear these other energies that are trying to communicate with us, assuming we know who, who that is, or what it is, obviously, to discernment, but it's very important to know that, you know, there's a, there's a lot coming out to clear out.
50:35It's a lot.
50:36I think so too, because it's kind of sad, like, I mean, you could, parking lot, you can't even go in a parking lot nowadays.
50:45There's always going to be somebody that either cuts you off or gets angry with you.
50:48I mean, it's silly.
50:50It, to me, it's just silly, but it just feels like there's a lot of negative in the energies of human beings.
50:57I mean, I'm, I'm so overwhelmed when I meet a nice person that's kind, and they're caring, because I'm not used to that nowadays.
51:07Back when I was a kid, oh yeah, everybody was nice.
51:10But today, it's almost like, you have to, like, it's almost frightening to meet so many negative people.
51:17And then, you know, usually the people that you meet with that are positive are much older.
51:23They're, like, in their 70s, because they've lived through way worse.
51:27They've dealt with more, you know.
51:30They understand.
51:31Life's hard.
51:33Today, life is only as hard as the person getting off the couch wants it to be, you know.
51:39There's people that don't even want to get up to go to work.
51:42They don't want to focus on what the world needs.
51:44They don't care.
51:45They just, it's almost like people stopped caring about progress of the earth.
51:54And, like, I mean, if it weren't for all the millions of men that built the bridges in the world, what would happen today if we needed bridges built, you know?
52:06So I'm wondering, like, how the energies have changed besides the generations.
52:12We're in different times.
52:16Well, there's been a lot of manipulation with what's been, you know, subliminally put into, like, the thought form waves, you know, to have people think a certain way or believe, you know, all these fear thoughts.
52:30And that's what's really all these programs, these overlays or these confusions, inversions is what's coming up to be seen.
52:40And some people are angry when they're seeing that, right?
52:42They're hearing about these manipulations or they're feeling they were manipulated in some kind of way.
52:48And they're feeling a lot of things about that.
52:52So there's a lot that needs to purify because, I mean, people have emotions as humans, right?
53:01So it needs to be merged.
53:05And the confusion, I feel, with polarity where you say, you know, light, dark, good, bad, this whole thing is that nothing is inherently good nor bad, but we need to harmonize it into neutral.
53:17Like, we need to bring it all into neutral, into singularity.
53:21So, you know, this dark light harmonized in the middle is the sacred neutrality where there isn't a charge.
53:31So there isn't this, you know, energy charge where people are getting fired up or they're getting, you know, overly swayed one way or the other, but they're able to be centered in their heart.
53:43And in order for that to do so, all this other stuff, you know, wherever it came from, however it's been, these confusions of, you know, thought forms, et cetera, has to come out, has to harmonize and neutralize.
54:01It has to be purged from the planet and the people.
54:05Yeah.
54:06Yeah.
54:07It doesn't, it's just going to collapse.
54:09Well, that's a lot of the contact and different beings that we're seeing.
54:14Oh, there's so much traffic in the sky and all these other beings coming.
54:18A lot of that is because they have ancient awareness of what a true unity consciousness is and how to, to coexist and be in harmony.
54:27And, and through these processes of all the, you know, chaos, however you want to say with their restructuring, they're coming to help.
54:36You know, they're coming to assist in the process of re-implementation and reorganization so that everyone can remember who they are.
54:46It's not a fear of, you know, who's landing on my roof, you know, or what ship are they on, right?
54:52All aboard the mothership is the parliament, what the Dolly likes to say.
55:07We can have fun, just don't be messing with the probes.
55:10Keep them in the pub.
55:11We can have fun with everything else.
55:15Keep probes to a minimum.
55:16You know what?
55:21And I hope everybody's laughing about this because that's actually quite funny.
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