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Tenney To Hochul: 'Are There Criminal, Illegal Immigrant Gang Members In The NYS Prison System?'
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6/13/2025
At today's House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-NY) questioned Gov. Kathy Hochul (D-NY).
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for allowing me to wave onto this committee for
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this important oversight committee hearing, and happy to have the governors here to hopefully
00:10
answer some questions, and just to address a couple things that I've heard in this committee
00:16
hearing.
00:17
I haven't appeared on oversight before.
00:18
I do serve in a much milder Ways and Means Committee, but I just want to say a couple
00:23
things about what this committee, what we're doing today, and about sanctuary cities.
00:27
We are all children of immigrants.
00:29
My grandparents met at Ellis Island, they sat in quarantine, they came from other countries,
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they came here to work.
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That's not what this is about.
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This hearing is about people who have taken advantage of our borders and our country, who
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have come in as illegal cartels, who have overrun our northern border, which is part of my district
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in upstate New York, and New York 24, and these people have taken operational control of our
00:51
southern and our northern border, and we need our governors to make sure that they're providing
00:57
the law enforcement backup to our ICE agents and others and not assisting and aiding and
01:03
abetting in such a way to these illegal immigrants, particularly the cartels.
01:08
And I think one of the most important things, I'm sick of hearing everyone defaming my constituent,
01:13
actually, Tom Homan, who's doing an excellent job and who served our country honorably.
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This big concern, and I think it's a big concern for me, because when I served in the state legislature,
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Governor Hochul wasn't there as either the lieutenant governor or the governor, but I was one of
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the leaders on human trafficking.
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And one of the important questions that Tom Homan talked about repeatedly is, where are
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the 300,000 children, children who are human trafficked by people who are profiting off of this
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human trafficking, not just drug trafficking, human trafficking, innocent children all through
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our interior.
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We don't know where they are.
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Those are the people that I'm concerned about, and what ICE is trying to do is get to those
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people who are taking these children and profiting off them and having no regard.
01:59
And that's what worries me the most, is we've gotten off track on a number of things.
02:03
And what concerns me is we have this defund the and demoralize the police movement brought
02:09
to a level where we're defunding and demoralizing ICE agents who are simply doing their job to
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protect our borders.
02:17
And what concerns me is, and I know Governor Hochul, obviously I'm going to address you
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because you're my governor.
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People have addressed the billions of dollars that New York State taxpayers, by the way,
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the highest tax taxpayers in the entire nation now.
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We're always in a struggle with California, who's more, who's less, and I think we're winning
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out this race now, not a good distinction, by the way, not a good distinction to have
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a northern border that's overrun by people who are human trafficking, bringing illicit
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drugs into our communities.
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I've had three parents in my community, my own home community, where their sons died of
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overdoses because of illegal fentanyl.
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So these are real issues that are coming from people that are coming across our borders.
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So we know we've spent billions of dollars on all kinds of illegal immigrants in New York
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State.
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It is between New York City and New York State, it's about $7 billion, and that's New York
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taxpayer dollars.
03:09
Those are my tax dollars.
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People I, constituents I serve who go to work every day.
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And all we're trying to do is keep these communities safe, and you mentioned that, Governor Hochul,
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that you were talking about keeping these communities safe.
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But I want to ask you a question, and I've got a series of questions, and some of them have
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been asked by my colleagues.
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But I want to ask you right now, because you're the governor of our state, and you've been
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presiding over a pretty disastrous situation with our prisons.
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And many of those prisons, including one of the maximum security prisons, is actually
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in my district and a number of other facilities.
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Are there any criminal illegal gang members in the New York State prison system right now?
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Yes, if there are, and you know how many.
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And if you can't get me the answer, can your staff provide us with a general information
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on that?
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I'll tell you this.
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I totally agree with you, Congresswoman, that more needs to be done to protect our border.
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We've asked for support from the federal government for the border that you represent that I know
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so well.
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I've had to deploy $8 million of my own state dollars to amp up the enforcement.
04:09
Well, there are state dollars, but let me just take this back to you.
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To help with human trafficking.
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Let me get to the prisons, because I want to get into another thing.
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Are there criminal illegal immigrant gang members in the New York State prison system
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right now?
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If there are, there will be a new 30-day.
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Do you know?
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Yes.
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Do you know if there are?
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I'm sure there are.
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That's why I've already sent 1,300.
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That's all I want to know.
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Can you get me the number?
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I've already had ICE take 1,300 of them upon the police.
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I'm not asking you that.
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I'm asking you, can we get the information about how many of these, whether they're
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Trende or Ragwa, whether they're MS-13, Crips, Bloods.
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I've toured the prisons.
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I've seen people that they line up in rows.
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I want to know how many of our illegal immigrants that are putting not only other inmates at
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risk, but also our prison guards who are at risk.
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Because right now, these types of people in our prison system are putting our corrections
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officers at risk.
04:57
And by you shutting down and cutting off the ability of our corrections officers who are trained
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to deal with these kind of people there, we're losing the ability of having the trained people
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there.
05:09
And our National Guard are wonderful people who serve our communities.
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But they're not trained to be able to do this, and many of them are underage in that.
05:14
Can I get the information from you on that?
05:16
Certainly.
05:17
And again, I just want to reaffirm that if there's someone convicted of a crime in our prison,
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they will be deported.
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We let ICE know 30 days before the end of their sentence.
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And that's why I've sent 1,300 people already, just since I've been governor, out of our country.
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I don't want them here any more than you do.
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Okay.
05:34
Can I just ask you one less?
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Because you talked about you don't support a sanctuary city.
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Right now we have, you were a lieutenant governor when this was signed into law under Governor
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Cuomo.
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The Green Light law, it prohibits the local DMVs, it gives driver's licenses to illegal
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aliens, which you once didn't support, but now you do, you've admitted that today.
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Under the Green Light law, would you support repealing the Green Light law so that we can
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allow ICE agents to work with our federal, with our DMV to find out when these people
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drive across the Canadian border and they have a carload full of innocent children and
06:09
they can't find any information on them because they get a legal license?
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Can you just give me that information?
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Last question, but feel free to answer it.
06:15
We absolutely share information on such situations with ICE.
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That is our job.
06:20
Do you support repealing the Green Light law?
06:21
All right.
06:22
Get a lady's time to expire.
06:23
Chair, recognize Mr. LaHood.
06:25
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
06:26
I appreciate it.
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