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  • 6/12/2025
During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday, Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA) questioned Joseph Selsavage, Interim Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial and Accounting Officer of 23andMe Holding Co., about data privacy controls of sensitive data.
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00:00that went into effect in 2022 requiring direct-to-consumer genetic testing companies like
00:0523andMe to obtain Californians' express consent for the collection, use, or disclosure of their
00:11genetic data. Under this law, Californians are also able to delete their accounts and genetic
00:16data and to destroy the biological samples they provided to these companies. In the context of
00:2323andMe's bankruptcy, can Californians still exercise these deletion rights, or does the
00:30bankruptcy process somehow interfere with, override, or otherwise affect our state's privacy protections?
00:37Thank you. Bankruptcy proceedings do not override any applicable law. So state law and federal law
00:43are recognized in bankruptcy proceedings. Whatever rights your consumers have outside bankruptcy,
00:48they'll have inside bankruptcy in terms of their legal rights.
00:50And if the database, 23andMe's database, is sold as a bankruptcy asset, what obligations would the
01:00acquiring company have under a federal or California law to maintain those same security standards?
01:06So the same laws that would apply now to 23andMe would presumably apply to any buyer.
01:13And even, so even if this is not a California company operating in some other state, they would
01:19still be bound post-bankruptcy to California's privacy standards?
01:23To the extent that California privacy standards apply, yes, they would.
01:28And is a commitment made by an acquiring company somehow enforceable? Apart from California's law,
01:35vis-a-vis residents of other states, is a promise made by an acquiring company somehow legally enforceable,
01:42or is it only as good as the person's intention to comply with that commitment?
01:48So contractual promises are enforceable up to the point that they can be enforced.
01:52That's not a great answer, but again, our statement is a contract is a promise to perform or to pay damages.
01:59It's possible for parties to breach that agreement, in which case the party that, on the other side of it,
02:05would be entitled to damages for the harm that they've experienced.
02:07But I guess, you know, let's say I'm acquiring 23andMe's data set.
02:13I commit to maintaining the deletion provisions, et cetera, complying with California law,
02:20even if it's not required somehow.
02:24I acquire the data set.
02:26I don't comply.
02:28Right.
02:28Has my offer to comply or my commitment pre-bankruptcy,
02:35has that somehow turned into a binding contract with the owners of the genetic data,
02:42the people who have the genetic data?
02:44So it would depend on who you were in privity with, I guess,
02:48in terms of the contract to use, I guess, a fancy legal term.
02:51A contract is between two parties, and so you have to have an agreement between those two parties.
02:58And I guess the question in those situations, if you were promising to abide by the commitment,
03:03who would be on the other side of that promise?
03:05Who would be able to enforce it?
03:07Right.
03:07Well, it would sound like the consumer would not be on the other side of that promise.
03:11It would be more one of the parties to the bankruptcy, which we would be then reliant on them to enforce that promise.
03:21Does that analysis make sense?
03:24That makes sense to me.
03:27And what controls are in place, Mr. Selsavage, maybe I can ask you this question.
03:31What controls are in place to prevent any unauthorized access or misuse of information during the bankruptcy proceedings?
03:38You know, 23andMe is, you know, basically places data security and data privacy is top of mind.
03:45You know, we basically have continued to maintain a strong system of security, making sure all of our data is encrypted.
03:53You know, the genetic data is stored separately from any consumer identifying information,
03:58identifying who that genetic data belongs to.
04:00We have enhanced our security processes, especially around bankruptcy, understanding that there is additional threats.
04:05And, you know, basically from on the consumer side, you know, we have since enacted two-factor authentication to access,
04:12so basically there is a second level of either an SMS text message or an email verification when somebody is trying to access their account
04:20and then placed additional restrictions if sensitive.
04:23If I could just interrupt with one last question because my time is going to expire.
04:27How do we know that an acquiring company or entity or person would maintain the same security standards that you have over privacy
04:37and even those standards were subject to hack?
04:41Senator, the good news here is there's two potential buyers at this point for 23andMe.
04:46The first is Regeneron, an American $55 billion market cap pharmaceutical company
04:52who actually has data security over genomic data today, and TTAM Research Institute would be,
04:59which would be maintaining the same security standards as 23andMe.
05:03Senator Bray.
05:05Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
05:07To follow up on the Senator's question, so would you commit today to the same privacy standards
05:13that you have demanding those of the company that purchases 23andMe?

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