00:00So, I'm looking at Mark Dagnold here, and part of me thinking he won't make a change is that no big stuff was more offensive than the single big stuff.
00:14But another piece of that is, he might just have too much pride to have another lineup change to begin this series.
00:22That's part of it. And, you know, doing things your way and then being right is far more gratifying than simply winning.
00:32Like, winning and proving people wrong at the same time, that's the juice. That's what any coach or player would want.
00:39The question becomes is, they're running out of, I don't want to say they're running out of runway, but...
00:45Well, there's only so many games. Yeah, no, I think that's fair to say.
00:48You could say, hey, we kind of did that. Maybe you messed around versus Memphis. You did it. You took care of it in Denver.
00:53They were the better team. You do it versus Minnesota. Clearly the better team.
00:57It's like, how many more bites of the apples do you really have to say, hey, we're going to try a different starting lineup.
01:02We're going to change things even further. Ultimately, you may be right over a large enough sample size.
01:0810, 20 games, you can get that done. But when you're playing now down to six games, I'm not sure that's the case.
01:14And the backfire would be immense. Oh, I think that Dagnold, from what I've evaluated, can really put himself on the hot seat, quite frankly.
01:26We'll get to who we think is still going to win this series. I actually want to stick on this decision because it was a really big one.
01:31And again, the no big stuff was, you can go back. I truly, I think everyone should.
01:41The NBA's YouTube account posted it. You can watch the final like six, seven minutes of that game.
01:46And it's a clean watch. They cut out the fluff.
01:50When they put Chet on the bench in the final three and a half minutes, it mattered.
01:55It's not one of those things where I'm just looking at a box score and telling you, oh, clearly it made a difference.
02:00Offensively, they had nothing. Because if you think that Casson Wallace is a better offensive player than Chad Holmgren, you're nuts.
02:07And if you think that Casson Wallace is a better defensive player than Chad Holmgren, what is that conversation?
02:11They're not even the same defensive player.
02:13Offensively, they were driving and you could see it occasionally.
02:17Shea or J-Dub were looking for the lob threat and it was Alex Caruso.
02:21Well, that's not a lob threat. We're taking away easy buckets for us.
02:25And they gave up multiple offensive rebounds to Pascal Siakam in just the final three and a half minutes that led to points.
02:32It was a huge misstep.
02:34I want to give you another statistic that puts this into perspective, Tom.
02:38I think you'll love this.
02:40So we talk about those Indiana turnovers.
02:43And the fact that it was actually the most they've turned the basketball over in a single game, regular or postseason, all year.
02:49Before that game, they were 2-4, playoffs included, when they turned it over 20 or more times.
02:55Once in the playoffs, it was against the Knicks, they lost the game.
02:59But how about OKC?
03:00In the regular season, 14-2 out of 16 games when they had turned it over, when they made their opponent turn it over 20 or more times.
03:10Here's what I could not stop laughing at.
03:12In those two losses, both times, it only happened twice, there were two guys that missed the game for OKC.
03:19I'm going to guess Chet and someone else.
03:21Hartenstein.
03:22Isn't that incredible?
03:23Basically, if you turn it over that much, the only way you're winning is if Chet and Hartenstein aren't out there.
03:29So that had to be at the beginning of the season.
03:31It was kind of somewhere in the middle.
03:34Chet just came back from injury.
03:35Yeah.
03:36One of them was mostly healthy, you know what I mean?
03:41But there was a little crossover where neither guy was kind of ready to go.
03:46But yes, it was a little bit earlier.
03:48One of them was, I think, one was November against San Antonio, and then there was a Dallas one maybe like December or so, give or take.
03:55And look, I'll add on to it.
03:56In the playoffs, when they've turned an opponent over 20 or more times, 6-0.