- 06/06/2025
Aryna Sabalenka est en finale de Roland-Garros pour la première fois de sa carrière. Ne pas y avoir encore figuré était presque une anomalie, après ses titres à l'US Open et l'Open d'Australie et une domination sans partage sur dur. La Biélorusse a passé un cap, et avec la manière, puisqu'elle a pris le dessus sur la triple tenante du titre Iga Swiatek en demi-finale (7-6(1), 4-6, 6-0). Vendredi, à 24 heures de la finale contre Coco Gauff, son entraîneur Anton Dubrov et son entraîneur de haute performance Jason Stacy se sont livrés sur les secrets de ce tournoi réussi en conférence de presse.
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00:00BNP Paribas, partenaire des plus belles histoires de Roland Garros, aux côtés des ramasseurs de balles depuis plus de 50 ans.
00:30Je pense que Irina a joué très bien, donc j'espère qu'elle va donner un niveau à la fin, avec la même énergie, et nous espérons qu'il y a une bonne match.
00:47All right, we'll take questions now.
00:53Hi, congrats again.
00:56I'm just wondering, in terms of her game, to translate it on the clay, what was the biggest challenge?
01:01Was it the movement, or was it the patience, or both?
01:05I would say it's both, because first it was kind of belief that she can do it, first of all, so we have to show her the way how she needs to do it.
01:15And then it was more about the patience to keep doing it and trust the process, that she is actually able to, first of all, fight on the surface, and then get some wins.
01:24So I think it was both, yes.
01:26As a player, you usually develop from both sides.
01:30And the process is still there, so it's never going to end until the end of the career.
01:34Yeah, I think I would agree with this, obviously, both.
01:37But I think, like you touched on, the biggest obstacle initially was just that her whole life, previous, before we started helping her out, was just like, oh, clay's not going to be for you.
01:45It's not you, you can't do it, you can't do it.
01:46So she had this sort of belief about herself that, well, okay, clay's not for me.
01:51And then we're like, but why not?
01:54So, yeah.
01:54It's for us.
01:55Yeah.
01:56That's right.
01:57If I can just follow up.
01:59I read you talk about the way you had to teach her to breathe differently so that she can control her emotion.
02:05I'm just wondering, I mean, you know, too, if 70% of the work with the arena to get her here was managing the tornado that can get in.
02:15Sorry, I didn't ask another question.
02:18Sorry?
02:19That work to help her controlling your emotion and the breathing, was it 70% of what it takes to get her to world number one?
02:30I mean, the managing emotions is a very big part of it, yes.
02:33You know, the breathing is something that you have physical control over no matter how you're feeling.
02:38So if you learn how to breathe better, you know, if you can manage to breathe a certain way, it'll put you in a certain state.
02:43So you're able to manage your emotions much better.
02:45And the nice part about the breathing is that besides it, it directly influences how you're thinking and feeling or, like, how you're responding to your environment is that no matter your mood or what's going on around you, you have control of your body.
02:57You just have to have the discipline long enough to create the habit to do it no matter how you're feeling.
03:02And so that probably took a bit of time just to get her to practice those things and to physically be able to do those things as well.
03:09And, you know, one of the key things that we always focus on is managing energy.
03:12And the other parts are managing the environment and managing our emotions.
03:15And they're all very connected.
03:16And the breathing is a simple, not easy way to achieve that.
03:21Anton, you mentioned managing that energy.
03:26How difficult is that coming off such an enormous win against Iger to then either pick her up or bring her down, adjust it accordingly for the final?
03:37I think for us it was a great match, big win.
03:43But as we discussed also after the match, it's like the job is not done.
03:47So this kind of success of the match, we just leave it for like after the tournament, we're going to discuss and see what was great.
03:55Because and I think our focus was even today on the practice about, OK, so what we have to do next.
04:00So it's like what is about next opening?
04:02How do you feel like what we can do and all this stuff?
04:06But there was about the previous match, about the last match, like last night's match.
04:11That was just kind of a short briefing about, OK, you did great this part, this part.
04:15This wasn't great and that's it and we'll move on.
04:18So and after the tournament, we can see, OK, on the big picture, like the clay season overall, how it was.
04:24And maybe we can talk more about the match against Iger because might be this was one of the best matches she played on the clay from Arena.
04:31So yes, but it doesn't mean that the job is done.
04:35We're still in the tournament, it's not finished.
04:37So as I said, for me, it's like half the way.
04:39And in planning for that final, how much do you look back at the US Open final where she lost to Coco?
04:45Or is it too long ago and a completely different surface?
04:49So it's tough to factor that in.
04:50I would say for me to see, like, even if you play against any opponent, it's like one, two months can change like everything.
04:59I remember, like, we played with Iger like two or three years ago in Doha and the way she started playing in Doha, I think it was 2022 and she was starting to play much more aggressive.
05:10And we didn't expect this one.
05:12And we looked at her match when we played against her in the finals with Alahara and was a completely different player.
05:18And we didn't expect.
05:18So I think Arena lost because as our preparation was terrible, she didn't expect this one.
05:24So for me to look what happened two years ago is just for me, it's useless because we play against Coco after this few times and you still have to focus on yourself more.
05:36Then you have a look at a few matches that Coco played like this week and that's it because it's going to be a fresh, fresh start for you.
05:45We've seen Arena add a lot to her game variety wise, drop shots, touch, slice.
05:50She's talked about this.
05:50How much was that done with kind of making her into an all-court player?
05:55How much was that in mind?
05:57I think it was just part of the journey how we can develop her as a better player overall.
06:02It's more like, OK, you're hitting great, unbelievable.
06:05So what else?
06:06We need to open angles more.
06:07Great.
06:08So what else?
06:08What else?
06:09So if you push the opponent more back, you can use more drop shots.
06:12Great.
06:12If you see some short balls, you can finish more on the net.
06:15So it's still like a process.
06:16So drop shots is just one of it.
06:19And there's still so many things like I see we can improve.
06:24So it's just like a journey of the players.
06:27I said to her, we always need to find what she can do better.
06:31And it should be like just the process, the whole career.
06:34I would probably add a little layer to that is that the goal always has been, whether it's mental, physical, tactical, technical, is that we understand what her limiting factors might be for what we're trying to achieve.
06:47And we see where she's at now.
06:49And we want to make sure whatever level she's at, she owns that level.
06:52And as she's really fine-tuning and really owning that level, we're already looking at that two or three things that might be the next priority.
06:58And as she's progressing through that level and really owning that position, we decide, okay, well, this is the next little layer we're going to add.
07:05So it's always just these little layers that we're constantly adding.
07:07But before we're adding too much, we're always making sure she owns it.
07:09And then we move on from there.
07:11That's why it's just her.
07:13It's always coming from her.
07:14It's why our goal is to sustain the high performance, not just to be a one-hit wonder type thing.
07:20Can I just ask as well on the kind of mentality side, we see Irina, she often looks quite frustrated with herself, looks like she sets incredibly high standards.
07:28How much with someone like her is it about accepting that there is going to be frustration and that that's okay as opposed to saying, you know, never get angry on court, stay calm kind of thing?
07:38I mean, yeah, so on our team especially, we have a very simple saying is don't fight it, don't feed it, right?
07:46So we don't want to fight this because, you know, the stress, anxiety, the pressure, the mistakes, all those things are going to be there.
07:51So you can't pretend it's not going to be a thing.
07:53But you don't want to feed it either and give it too much energy or power.
07:56So you just, again, like your point, accept the way it is, understand what you have control over and just focus in on that.
08:01And that's where Anton really comes in and play with, like, the tactics and strategies for each day.
08:05It's very good, actually.
08:07For me, I just want to add that, as I remember, I think two years ago, a year ago, like, Novak spoke about it, like, during Wimbledon, that it's more about, like, everyone gets frustrated and get those things, like, okay, like, you're just getting angry, that's it.
08:22But it's more about how fast you can focus back on your thing.
08:25So this is the biggest one, like, because you cannot be perfect, like, and you don't have to be, you have to be yourself, accept this fact, and think, like, okay, what I need to do, what I can, how I can change myself physically, so I can be, like, mentally more calmed down.
08:41So as soon as you, like, realize what's going on with you, and you know the answer what to do, it's just easier for you to move on.
08:48That's true.
08:49I want to follow that subject and ask about the dialogue on court.
08:53Like, do you focus on, like, coming down or, you know, redirecting to her path, or there are tactical changes you do inside the match, you know, do this, do that, maybe suggest stuff?
09:06It's always different.
09:09It's usually more about, like, okay, she can tell you whatever she wants, and whatever you reply is going to be, it doesn't matter, the first.
09:18So it's always different, it can be a joke from my side, it can be some, I don't know how to say, like, angry words back, or some, like, simple stuff, okay, just do this, this, and she can be, say, okay, whatever, and then she's back to work, because she knows, like, okay, we, we understand that you experience, like, stress right now, that's okay, so, okay, what's next?
09:40So she can see from us, that's okay, we understand.
09:44But also, tactical changes?
09:46And sometimes, sometimes, especially, as you can see, like, when she cannot do something, like, let's say, for, like, a few points, or, like, even the games, yes, you say, like, what she has to focus in on right now.
09:59Hey there.
10:01She's, you know, as you say, she's an emotional person, and she's got big dreams, both on the court and also off the court.
10:07How, how do you, sort of, when you have a big event, like, tomorrow, coming up, how do you, sort of, get her to, sort of, dial in on the small picture, and, you know, sort of, set aside the stuff that she's looking to accomplish elsewhere?
10:26Because it, sort of, goes hand in hand, and, you know, we all know, as she's talked about it with us, like, she thinks about it hand in hand, and, you know, it's, it's going to be in her mind, it's always in her mind.
10:37So how, how do you, sort of, get her to balance those things, and, and then, sort of, just dial in?
10:42For me, it's, from my side, it's about, address it, like, to her, like, I say, yeah, we, we're all, we all experience the same way as you, and it's totally, it's actually pretty good.
10:55That's mean you have your goals, like, your standards pretty high.
10:59So, and right now, okay, in this kind of situation, what we can do right now?
11:04Let's do our simple steps even more smaller.
11:08So we, let's say, you go on the court, what you can control?
11:10You can control breathing.
11:13We started with breathing, with the first step, the second, you can, you can move.
11:17Just, just control your move, the way you move, just focus on recovery step, nothing else.
11:22Just do just this thing, and as soon as you realize that you have some sort of control through breathing and, and the moving, you can add something else.
11:30So you just try to get all this big picture, you're not saying, like, it's never happened, like, no, it is always here, but try to use it as a fuel for you.
11:39So it's motivate you to do better, but start with the small steps, breathing, moving, acceleration, and then go, like, and step by step.
11:50That's for me.
11:50And I think as soon as you have this control, it's just better for you to use these expectations and your dreams as motivation.
11:58I mean, I'll just add a little bit later to that, it's just the same thing as, as I said earlier, we don't fight, we don't feed it.
12:05We understand it's there, we address it however it fits best in that moment.
12:10You know, often it is just finding whatever you have a sense of control over, because as soon as you have a sense of control of something, the negative side of stress doesn't have that big impact on you.
12:18So it's just looking for any little thing you can to have a sense of control, but the other part really is that, I mean, have you guys seen us in a lot of finals now, right?
12:27And have you, I mean, maybe seen the way we warm up or the, what we do, does it look any different than round one at some random tournament?
12:32It's the same thing.
12:33We're just doing what we do, we're who we are, we don't treat one thing too much more, better, or bigger, or more important, or less important.
12:39We understand that there'll be these things, like I said, these, these big things will come up and you'll start thinking about, oh, you're so close.
12:44But on our day-to-day, our actions influence how we're feeling and what we're able to, you know, how we can compete.
12:50So we just continue to be consistent the way we act and how we speak and our mannerisms.
12:54And the last little thing I'll say is probably the biggest thing is just the environment, is that, you know, the way we behave, the way we're responding to the stress is the same.
13:03You know, we have to be the stable ones, so that way the environment is stable, so she has a strong foundation to support her.
13:09To follow up on that, how tricky is the mental preparation in these 24 hours coming after a win over Sviatek at the French Open,
13:21having beaten the four-time champion, and going 24 hours, 48 hours later into a final with possibly the trophy for her to win?
13:32I mean, for me, honestly, as we have the previous questions about it, we, for me personally, I don't see, like, it was a great match against IGA,
13:43but I don't see it as something like as a huge win right now.
13:47Maybe in, I don't know, in a few weeks, a few months, I will look back and say, like, yeah, it's great.
13:52But for now, I don't see that it was something, like, special.
13:57There was a great match, great battle, incredible opponent, but for us, when we come to the tournament,
14:04we, the job is not done, so we don't experience this kind of high, like, emotions right now.
14:10It's like, okay, it was a next step, great level, good quality, but we need to move on and to do something else.
14:17So we don't have this kind of, like, I would say high and lows, so we, like, it could be, like, let's say, like, yesterday,
14:25it could be, like, maybe terrible quality, let's say match, something like this, and she will still win.
14:31It doesn't mean that something's going to change in our emotions.
14:35So it's, like, the same result is here, great, but what next?
14:39We have to do, like, next day we have to be ready.
14:43I mean, yeah.
14:44I agree, I agree, it's just, you know, again, just taking it one day at a time, we don't really, I mean, we're still here.
14:51The job is far from over.
14:53It's a very big day tomorrow.
14:54Yeah, maybe more emotions about, I don't know, over the whole tournament, over the match against Iga,
14:59we're going to experience later on, but nothing for now, to be honest.
15:03I mean, our job is always, as he's, you know, he mentioned, is that, you know,
15:07while everyone is in that moment celebrating, we have to be a little bit ahead of ourselves
15:10and already planning ahead, what's next, what's been working well, what needs work, you know, what's our plans.
15:16So for us to sustain this level, you know, first to get here, not to sustain it,
15:19we have to always be forward thinking.
15:21You know, the team and everyone can have that enjoyment.
15:23Arena can celebrate all that.
15:25We'll have a brief moment, but for us, it's like, no, we just need to make sure that we're guiding the direction of what's happening.
15:30So, you know, we enjoy it, but I'm sure maybe once that last ball hits tomorrow night, we'll all go, oh, we'll all feel it.
15:37So, yeah.
15:39Hey, guys, thanks for being here.
15:40Question about Shane and his analytics team and your guys' use of analytics over the years.
15:45How important has it been for you guys to have that information to aid in the development of Arena's game
15:50and also to aid in the development of you guys coaching her?
15:54Yeah, we were lucky, actually, to find the guy.
15:56I think we've been in Australia.
15:58Yeah, I know for a while.
15:59I think Jason gave me the contact.
16:00Shane, yes.
16:02We, I would say, we're using this information more about ourselves, like, because for me,
16:09it's really important to focus on how you can develop, what you can do better, what, how we play,
16:14like, we can see, like, inside, okay, the way we play, how we, like, spin the ball,
16:20where we, where our targets are, how they actually working against the opponents,
16:26overall against someone, like, especially, like, like, one of the players,
16:30or, like, let's say, the one with the lefty players.
16:32So, you can, you can see all those insights and it's much easier for you to practice
16:37because, for me, the most important part, the, the, the actual, like, match,
16:43you have to do, like, on the practice side.
16:46So, whatever you're doing, you cannot go on the court and, like, okay, I'm going to do something else.
16:49You have to be ready for this when you have to practice this.
16:51So, you have to see it before, and those numbers actually help you.
16:56Yes, you see lots of videos.
16:57You can see some, like, matches from yourself,
16:59but these numbers can actually confirm wherever you see, or maybe not.
17:04And it's just much easier for you to practice and be ready.
17:07And all the other preparation for the match is just, like, just helping you.
17:12But it's not the most important part.
17:13The most important part for us is to see what this arena is doing,
17:17and it's for us how we should practice and what we should do.
17:21This is the biggest one.
17:23I think something with Anton's done really well is also filtering that information
17:26because sometimes people get overly sort of stuck on the data
17:29or on the stats and the numbers and what percentages,
17:32and he's very good at just taking the information and figuring out what we need right now,
17:36what's going to be most relevant for arena right now.
17:38And then we add that, you know, human side.
17:40It's like, so we have the numbers.
17:41We know what would be the best percentage-wise, but how is she feeling?
17:44Maybe there's a shot that this is what she needs to do,
17:45but she's just not feeling it right now.
17:47So then he has to come up with a way, like, well, what's planned?
17:50You know, maybe what's the other opportunity there?
17:52And I just want to add that it's usually also people see the numbers
17:55and they can picture just, like, just one player.
17:59But you also have to understand that there's going to be different practice
18:01for Iga and for Arena.
18:03So, and the numbers will be the same kind of, but the practice is going to be different.
18:08So you also have to understand the person who you're working with
18:11and what you have to use for this.
18:13Just a quick follow-up with yesterday, Arena's forehand, I believe,
18:18TV reported that it was 25% less spin.
18:20She was hitting a lot flatter ball.
18:22Would that be an example of a use of analytics where you could look,
18:25get information on how maybe Iga handles the flat ball
18:28and then incorporate it?
18:30Altogether, yes.
18:31We can see that Arena should play with much more aggressive,
18:35especially on the clay against Iga because she will have more time here.
18:38So Arena should have stepping in more to play on the rise all the time,
18:45not to give Iga lots of time because otherwise, as you said,
18:49like 25%, if she would play, like, less speed or spin,
18:54so most likely Iga would have more time to move Arena around.
18:57So, yes, it was one of this.
18:58I just wanted to ask, because you were talking before about how you want it
19:04to feel like any other tournament in some ways, to an extent,
19:08but what about the fact that here, the last two years have been really
19:11difficult, really tough losses for very different reasons,
19:15but how much, and Arena talked at the start of the tournament
19:19about coming in and being even more determined as a result.
19:22How have you guys managed that, the fact that coming back here
19:25it might bring back some disappointments, do you embrace that,
19:29do you accept that, or do you try and just reset and refresh?
19:34It's a little bit of everything, you know.
19:35I think some of it's trying to figure out if there is something
19:38that you know is going to be bothering her and it's there,
19:40how can she use that to kind of fuel a fire inside of her
19:42rather than making it, like, a challenge.
19:44So sometimes for her, it's like if there's an obstacle,
19:46she really wants something, you know, she's very stubborn that way,
19:49which is, you know, sometimes not good for us, but, you know,
19:53I think it's more about just trying to help her, like, just,
19:56you know, again, not really fighting or feeding it,
19:57just accept what it is and then figure out how to use that
20:00as either fuel or how, you know, I mean,
20:03depending on what the specific thing might be, you know,
20:05do we want to feed that a little bit extra, like, kind of,
20:07like, use that to kind of help kind of give her a little bit
20:08extra, you know, an added layer of motivation or something
20:11when she needs that extra little bit, or do we kind of just,
20:14like, oh, yeah, you're right, and then we just blow it off
20:15and then it kind of just fizzles away because we don't react to it
20:18or we don't respond to it.
20:19So I think it might vary, but I don't know if, you know,
20:21anything detailed from that, not really from me.
20:24No, I would say that wherever there was, okay,
20:26any match she lost here, for example, we can have a look.
20:29Okay, it was disappointment, but what, why, why it was,
20:33like, why you lost, so we can have a look what's actually happened
20:35and let's say, like, okay, let's, let's do better,
20:39let's develop this part what was missing everything
20:42and then we will see the results.
20:44Is it actually what we did going to work right now or not
20:47because only result is going to show,
20:49so use it as motivation to be a better player
20:51and at the same time as she knows on the practice
20:54why we're doing this stuff because she remember,
20:57like, you say, some disappointment results
20:59and then she's on the court, she will have more belief in herself
21:02because she knows she developed better,
21:04she knows it's going to, like, motivate her
21:06to push herself to do better
21:08and then only result is going to show us,
21:11actually, did we do a good job or not
21:13and that's it.
21:14True.
21:14I mean, also, don't forget, she doesn't like to lose,
21:18so if there's a time for, an opportunity for her to redeem herself,
21:21she'll give that extra little bit at any cost often,
21:25so, I mean, we always have that little extra layer there.
21:29Yeah, hi.
21:31How Harina is off the court?
21:34Is she always smiling, wanting to dance,
21:37like, when she comes off the court
21:39and does she still have this positive energy?
21:42I will say mostly all of the time.
21:46Like, she likes to dance.
21:49She likes TikTok dancing a lot.
21:51Non-stop.
21:53Lots of jokes.
21:54So she is, and I think as we start working with her,
21:58like, me and Jason is about it.
22:01We're more focusing on her, like, as a person first
22:04and then we can see how we can use her personality
22:08in the work.
22:10so if she likes to dance, for example,
22:13and we need to do a break,
22:15let's do, like, a break and dance at TikTok
22:18and then continue working.
22:19Why not?
22:20But we don't give up too easily.
22:21We try to fight, but we know that we're going to lose.
22:23She'll just keep going and going and going
22:25until we go, fine, let's just do the TikTok.
22:26Yeah.
22:27It's a bit of a game, you know, but, yeah.
22:30But, yeah, as a person, she's, as I remember,
22:33she was, like, 14, 15, the first time I met her,
22:36she was the same person.
22:37So the same energy all the time.
22:40And I think that's what most of the people is mention about her,
22:44how she's open and smiling in a positive way all the time.
22:48Yeah, this has been, like, a purposeful thing.
22:51You know, like, if you, not only do you want to perform your best
22:53at whatever you do, but you want to sustain it,
22:55you know, and even afterwards still have a good life
22:57and be, you know, have some great memories and experiences,
23:00it has to come from you.
23:01Like, it has to be part of who you are, you know?
23:03So we're not trying to make her something she's not.
23:05You know, everything, like Anton said, everything we've done,
23:07the people we bring in, how we work,
23:09it's all based on, like, her personality,
23:11how she feels, you know, alive and connected and supported.
23:15So it's very important that, you know,
23:17we have to be ourselves the whole time.
23:19So, again, it's why, like, it doesn't matter the environment.
23:21We're, like, our environment is our environment.
23:23We're always going to be who you are.
23:25And, yeah, she doesn't, she's relentless with the dancing
23:27and the jokes, that's for sure.
23:29Some of them are dangerous.
23:30Some of them are dangerous, lately especially.
23:34In the finals that she played this year,
23:36did you see any recurring factor in the one she lost
23:39compared to the one she won?
23:41You mean the finals, overall finals?
23:43Yes, this season she played many finals.
23:47Were there common reasons in the one she lost
23:49that you can, you know, correct ahead of Saturday?
23:53To be honest, I think they're a bit different.
23:58So it's all coming up with, from, I would say,
24:02from the stress factor overall.
24:04But anyway, it's different why.
24:07So we're always trying to approach not just finals,
24:09but even any other match is like, okay, why?
24:13So if she lost, like, let's say, in Dubai or Doha,
24:17so we see, like, the reason why.
24:20So it's, yes, there are some things you can see,
24:22like, can be the same, but in the bigger picture,
24:25I would say there's some different,
24:28for me it's just different, I don't know how to say it.
24:32Specific.
24:32Specific, yes, details a bit different from my side.
24:36So it's, and it's like a, it's like a journey.
24:39You have to see, okay, is it, like,
24:41happening the same one or is it different?
24:43Because if it's different, it's not that bad.
24:45It means that if you kind of work on what didn't work before
24:51and it's something new come up,
24:52it's just, like, kind of as a challenge for you.
24:54Okay, so what's the next one?
24:55What's the next one?
24:55Because you always, as the player, you develop,
24:58you improve, but it's always something can trigger you.
25:00So you have to be ready.
25:01It's like the, as I say, like a journey,
25:04like of development is never ending.
25:05So you have to be ready to do, like, a next step.
25:08Okay, any final questions?
25:10Charlie, do you want more?
25:11Yep.
25:12Yes.
25:12Sorry, this was just a follow-up on before,
25:13but just about coming back here and she talked about it.
25:16I just wondered how you guys felt coming back here
25:18because obviously you would have felt the disappointment
25:19the last couple of years as well.
25:21I actually don't have any disappointments.
25:23Yeah, I wasn't, I mean, we knew it happened.
25:25It was out of our control and, you know,
25:27we've been working well since
25:29and we've developed further since.
25:30Yes, it's what we're trying to message to arenas.
25:32Like, we cannot control the result.
25:34But we can control how we can do it
25:37and the only result can show us
25:38was this work actually what we need
25:42or it was something else.
25:43So I don't have any this point.
25:46It may be like kind of, you can be,
25:49I don't know, it's not sad,
25:50but okay, you always want more.
25:53But for example, you have some success before
25:56and you have to be also appreciate this moment.
25:58Like, okay, you did well.
25:59So it's, but it can, like, it could, like,
26:02ended up like you had, like, nothing,
26:04but you have, like, right now lots of success.
26:06So there is a journey that's going to be disappointments.
26:10It's so hard to be like a, like Rafa here
26:12with the 14 titles.
26:14Like, it's pretty rare.
26:17Yeah, I mean, I feel the same.
26:18There's nothing really, you know.
26:19I think as a tennis player, you always, like,
26:21as your journey goes, you know that
26:22almost every week you're going to lose.
26:24This is like reality in tennis.
26:26You have this tournament every week.
26:27I mean, every practice and match and moment,
26:30you know, we have, like,
26:31just a basic thing that we do naturally now
26:33is we just look at, well, what's worked well
26:35or what's worked well, what needs work
26:37and what's our plan,
26:37and we just do that every practice, every match,
26:39every, you know, and like I said,
26:41the things that happened last year
26:43that we can't control, we can't control.
26:45And since all the things we could,
26:46we've been working on and, you know, even,
26:49I mean, we see what the results have been
26:50even since last year.
26:51So we can just, I can just, again, add,
26:53for me, it's the same as what Novak said.
26:54It's like, okay, even like you lost, for example,
26:56it's more about how you bounce back,
26:58how is it going to be your recovery?
27:00Yeah.
27:00This is more important.
27:01I think we did pretty well.
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