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  • 6/5/2025
Ahead of their new album, 'I Beat Loneliness,' Bush is joining us for an #AudacyCheckIn to talk all about it 🎶
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00:00you guys are touring with shinedown it really starts with nick that guy really improved us
00:05um he's such a great drama and it's just it's like playing with a an army behind you it's really
00:11you know what i mean
00:12it's ape cannon it's an aussie check-in gavin rosdale from bush loving the new song land of
00:20milk and honey new album i beat loneliness coming out july 18th you guys are two for two gavin
00:27on the new album 60 ways to forget people land of milk and honey both awesome songs thank you so
00:34much yeah yeah yeah well we start as we need to go on you know i think it's um i intentionally kept
00:40the record short so that there's 12 songs instead of but you know people are tailing off by the 14th
00:45song you know what i mean i don't get as many long records if you do 22 song albums i don't want to
00:51hear anyone uh 22 songs um but uh yeah so it's really it's really concise and so i hope that
00:59feeling spreads across the whole record you know you make a great point because i remember when you're
01:03a kid you're listening you're like man 17 like you can't it's hard to get into 17 songs no you'll
01:09always forget the last four so somewhere in there you you fall off yeah yeah yeah it's no good it's
01:16no good i've done it myself where i get seduced and thinking that we're so good i just gotta include
01:22that song we're so good we just gotta do that don't sure change people like that but really
01:27it's cool but i honestly think that short records are super classic and for the rest of the album what
01:34what can we expect on the album what are the are the other 10 songs as good as these two or you just
01:37put out the two and you're like the rest is garbage oh hell no the rest of the album's better
01:44you know you know the rest of the album's better um and i didn't you can't every song is can't be
01:54kind of a dry pile driving land of milk and honey um but it just got a range what's weird about it is
02:01it just sits organically together um it really makes sense for the opening song which is called scars
02:07have you heard the record i only have milk and honey and uh and 60 ways forget people
02:12opens with a song called scars and um it's got this really cool tricked out tripped out uh 808
02:22and uh it's this whole sort of self-examination opening thing and and then when the record ends
02:29it ends with the songs really plaintive and soft and it's got this lone voice it's called rebel with a
02:35cause and um so it's meant to represent everybody you know who sort of gets and finds a way to get
02:42through this uh these crazy times that we're in and that people have the courage to to to get through
02:49um when when times are really hard and you feel like every day is a struggle and worse you feel like
02:56everyone else has it way easier there's a real common misconception i feel that people look at social
03:02media people read uh the source pages where they want to be um and they have a lot of fear of their
03:10own lives are passing by and they're not getting themselves together when most of the time they're
03:15really carefully orchestrated images not really what reality is so it's really cool to um have a
03:22record that definitely like speaks to people and not expecting you to meet me on your yacht you know
03:28exactly it's a little it's a little bit like it's a struggle right that's cool that it's an actual
03:35album that you're saying we should listen to the whole album because like now bands are putting out
03:39a single and they're not even putting out albums anymore like the the new album from the cure that
03:44came out you listen straight through and it's it's an album you want to hear from the beginning to
03:50the end so it's pretty cool that you actually thought about making it a complete piece of work
03:54as opposed to just a couple singles well especially if you're looking to um tour it and if you're
03:59looking to big ambitions have these really big shows and you have the kind of section of the
04:03traditional songs you have the newer songs the heavier songs and then here we have you know there's a
04:09couple of um there's some real storming songs maybe there's like six or seven that are like really
04:14in your face and kind of like uplifting no not that more than actually because there's like two
04:19maximum four that kind of more tricked out and then you've got eight that are kind of driving
04:26big rock songs try and do them in an imaginative way you know like there's a lot of great bands
04:32doing um really imaginative stuff and um you just gotta follow on with that you know like it's it's our
04:41duty you know we rock will never die but you know it'll get more attention the better the records are
04:47you know so that's how i feel about it this is your 10th album did you think you would make it to 10
04:52albums because most rock bands don't make it close to 10 albums uh no no and that's another great thing
05:00that there's a certain sense of um of just like continuing on and keeping it um very very uh connected
05:11to reality and connected to the ground and so that's how we've been able to make all those records i think
05:16and and and tore and not fall apart you know i i remember the first time i heard everything zen
05:2331 years ago that album came out uh 16 stone and the bush sound like you guys have a sound that's the
05:31bush sound right what did how did you find your sound because i'm imagining when you came up you had
05:36influences right and you didn't sound like bush before that first album came out right yeah i mean
05:42the thing about it was was that you know for me i had a lot of trouble uh back in england getting
05:47signed uh in my bands i mean i was in bush a couple of years before i got i got before i got assigned
05:54um and it's crazy because uh i think the main reason they gave was this um was this uh uh was because of
06:05my voice right yeah it was not good enough singing i was learning i was young and so
06:11then what's wild is as soon as it my my voice clicked into maybe what has become now
06:18um the very thing that held me back was the exact thing that gave gives me um this this life and so
06:26it's ironic you know yeah do you think that it's because you're such a good looking dude that they
06:32didn't want to help you out because i feel i feel like being a good looking dude right it either
06:36i feel like once bush hit obviously it's great that you're a good looking dude but i feel like
06:41coming up when you're trying to open for bands you want some ugly dude to help you know i'm saying like
06:46being such a good looking dude it couldn't have helped you in the beginning right i'm sure i mean
06:50later on it helps well i mean starting up well i don't know what it was then you can put that on
06:56the list but that along with my voice my voice of my face when you have so many oh go ahead i'm
07:05sorry no i'm saying it worked out in the end yeah yeah i mean of course yeah it's much better to look
07:12the way you do than and you found your voice too so when you have when you have so many hits like
07:21if you would have stopped after 16 stone you could have toured the rest of your life
07:25playing you know everything zen glycerine come down little things machine gun every night there's
07:30bands who have one hit and they tour for 40 years off that one hit you guys have so many hits how do
07:36you put together the set list especially there's so many songs your audience wants to hear right
07:40we have a sort of basic skeletal set that we feel we have to honor you know you know don't don't
07:51throw the baby out the baby out of the bath water and don't um and always dance with the one that
07:57you know that's the one you came with right so but yet within that within that um set you have an
08:07opportunity for not like four new songs but one of four or five that you have that slot so we just
08:15have these kind of like options and we we have we're really ambitious now and so we we're planning
08:22to rehearse before the next tour and have many more songs ready uh because i was i was feeling that we need
08:29to um i was feeling that we need to uh have more songs uh the deep cuts so over 30 years of bush is
08:39there a story that you have that you've never told anyone is there something in your head some amazing
08:44story like you met i don't know you were hanging out with tony iomi or something or you were
08:48something is there a story that you have that you've never told anyone well clearly a few but
08:54that would include you yeah exactly that's what i'm saying is there one that you could there's no reason
08:58why you'd be you'd be in a new club so you'd go right we just met you'd be in the same club as
09:04anyone else my friend but um i think um i tell you one time when we were backstage and um my uh my
09:12then drummer at the time oh tom waits came backstage it was really fun to see him and uh a big fan of
09:20his and so i got the chance to sit down with him for a while and he said my son wants to come in
09:24because he wants to meet your drama he said he's a drummer and uh my child was like oh pretty coming
09:29mate well you know you cut what kind of bands you know you like uh you like you know sort of
09:35green day and stuff he goes now like whole he loved whole he loves whole he loves sonic youth so he
09:44liked all the cool cool bands like that that's awesome so there's a story i hadn't bothered to
09:50tell anyone so the same criteria you know we we have to talk about your cooking show because
09:58it's it's so great and you're such a great chef like even today you put up like this
10:03this like cauliflower thing that looks so delicious like you need to open up a restaurant
10:09have you considered opening a restaurant no but let me tell you that cauliflower dish is unbelievable
10:13what is it it's really really simple so simple first cooking is really simple because i was
10:18looking at cauliflower the other day i was thinking how am i going to make that i've roasted them
10:21i've done them with all different sauces uh grimoire's it's really uh tangy vinaigrettes
10:27uh stuffed with cheese all that kind of stuff but it's the boring so then i tasted it it's like
10:33it tastes really good so i just cooked it in like half milk half cream salt good start kind of
10:39cloves of garlic two cloves of garlic whole head of cauliflower cook it till it's soft then take out
10:46then take out the uh the florets put it in the blender and use enough just enough liquid so that
10:52it just is used you don't use all the liquid but use a bit of it yeah until you like the whip
10:58people think you're a genius and it's it's kind of healthy too that's it yeah i mean it's cooked in
11:05butter and it is it is it's healthy-ish but it's it's cooked in milk mainly with a touch of cream
11:10like if you want to get more healthy but you need the cream to give that luxury
11:14thing and then you finish it but it's sensation i feel like your tv show is based on like dates that
11:21you've had because like the serena williams one like you're just sitting there you cook her a meal
11:25she comes to your beautiful house you pull out the acoustic guitar like this is like the perfect
11:29night that you put together and now it's a tv show thank you uh yeah i just still can't believe
11:35that i got someone as great as serena or as great as any other guests do it because coordinating those
11:40kind of people's schedules i want to say those kind of people i mean successful uh busy um
11:48was like that just there should be a some kind of a you know an award for for getting that together
11:55yeah it did the show's called it's called dinner with gavin russell have you considered as a prize
12:02to your your beautiful fans to have like four fans come over and you cook for them like that would be
12:09the greatest prize you could give any of your fans yeah um hey we could do it if you want to set
12:15that up it's just an idea i came up with yeah i think it might be i i i do like those quirky fun
12:23fan things i heard those things that taylor swift going to the fans house and just showing up and
12:28playing a couple songs like that's kind of pretty rad that i love that that sort of stuff
12:33that's what uh the all-american rejects are doing right now they're going on a tour they're doing a
12:38house party tour they're just showing up at people's yards and they just start playing they
12:42did a a graduation party they did a bowling alley they're just showing up in random fields is that
12:48they're doing that right now what band all-american rejects okay nice great yeah it's pretty cool so
12:56okay so you guys are touring with shinedown that's a great bill you guys in shinedown i mean it doesn't
13:01get better than that right back to back it's pretty exciting you know um those guys have we spoke about
13:09it for some time and it never came together and now it's it's pretty exciting how it's come together
13:14and uh i had a really funny day with brent doing the uh promo for it and um yeah it's pretty it's
13:23they're really great guys and um you know they're really great band they've a lot of hits people
13:28they're sort of built for radio and you know they know the architecture of radio and so
13:35i think that's going to be really compelling and you know it just gives people a really fantastic night
13:41you know what i mean that's the idea i love the idea of um just people having the most beautiful
13:48experience you know morgan wade is very cool and just sort of having the whole evening of songs song
13:55song writers performers everyone giving what they got we don't have pirate pyro stuff but
14:02like they're really so generous because normally you know he's want us to use everything you know
14:08he's got like mad stage design stuff like that so they're allowing you know the band's allowing us
14:14to have a full run of the stage which by the way a lot of people wouldn't i think i don't know i mean
14:20i wish no they don't no you know like to put you guys to let you guys play before them they have a lot
14:26of confidence in themselves because you guys will blow people off the stage yeah we're a very powerful
14:31band it's it's it blows they blow me away um it really starts with nick that guy really improved
14:38us um he's such a great drummer and it's just it's like playing with a an army behind you it's really
14:45you know i mean all the all the best bands have the best drummers rock bands can't very few rock bands
14:53um there's a couple but not many have made it without they have made it massive without having a massively
14:59great drummer um generally all the top bands have top drummers so that's the foundation of everything
15:05right yeah it's the undeniable truth about it because it brings the emphasis you know and you
15:13know i'm so proud to play with nick you know this this guy plays every night like his life depends on
15:20it and like that's just how we roll i think the same with uh with shinedown you know they really
15:25they give everything they have to be in that band to create that band and so it's an interesting
15:32lesson you know i learned a lot from hanging around with him actually because um i probably spend more
15:39time thinking about other things you know they're really on it knowing what's going on very hands-on
15:44there are times when i don't drift you know i stay in my lane but these guys they seem to be
15:49in control of everything they do they know the truck is the lighting company you know they know
15:55all things like that whereas don't ask me i know we kind of switch here and there generally the same
15:59people but it's not my my lane you know but these guys are very very thorough and uh that's inspiring
16:07you know because it takes it takes that dedication to all those details to make things happen that's
16:14why they're so successful and they have a great drummer too barry who by the way has a hot have
16:19you tried his hot sauce as a food i have i cook with it yeah that's delicious yeah yeah it's very
16:24good i part of the promo i made that chicken tacos part of the promo that we did oh that's awesome i
16:31showed up they were like hey cook these and it was very sweet because the girl who was the culinary
16:35help had already cooked a couple of chicken breasts that look really sad and lonely and cold
16:40congealed you know but they're just trying to do me a favor that's like like because you know
16:46you can stop while you cook the chicken if you want i said oh no i'm all good i'm i can i can like
16:52chat and cook i don't sweat it i i believe that cooking is to be enjoyed and indulged and the worst
16:59thing that happens it's slightly burnt which isn't a bad flavor you know it's not a bad bad uh flavor at
17:06all so um yeah i'm all about it you know i i it was it was good fun so i tried that hot sauce
17:12is it hard for you to get into the routine when you're on a tour like just your daily like i feel
17:18like some people just stay in their hotel room and some people are out like hanging out in every city
17:23which which side are you on i'm on the side of um usually walking and discovering somewhere great to
17:33eat but really i have to keep quiet it's like i i do two shows a day because i do a meet and greet
17:40where i sing a couple of songs so it just ruins my life and my day it's just screwed by i cannot use
17:49my voice you know there's no point even if i'm i just i just shut up to zip it because that's the
17:57thing my voice wants the most and literally what i'm doing is either shutting up or then warming up
18:04and then warming up again for a thing then shutting up then warming up before i sing and say
18:10it's it's it's um it's that's what it takes you know i'm an athlete you know and so yeah sort of
18:17had that recovery time and that focus same way as everyone on tour you know i used to see that when
18:23i was a kid you know pavarotti would be sort of like wrapped up in the voice always the voice
18:28so i you know i can't go to loud restaurants i can't go to bars oh wow well if you think about
18:34it anywhere where you go you raise your voices let's say we're shouting so it's a nightmare yeah
18:39it's a singer i'm i'm annoying like i could only go out and eat on a terrace where there's no sound
18:46you know i mean high maintenance but yeah no it makes sense because you're you're pushing it to the
18:51limit every night every night so it doesn't you just people that you know people if you notice it
18:57when people go to shows the next day they're like really hoarse you know if you can't speak well i
19:02gotta do the show again yeah and you're and you're actually singing at the top of your lunch i'm actually
19:08singing you're not just yelling at the guy next to you uh to stop but but i also there's a side of me
19:14that really um you know this is an incredible time you know i have an incredible record i have an
19:20incredible band and i have incredible shows like that i mean like i'm super lucky so yeah i do like
19:26to go and walk and find a great matcha but it's all about focusing on the show because if i'm going to
19:33leave my kids and my dog you know it better be worth it and if yeah if i was to sort of um waste energy
19:41somewhere else you know by touring every museum for two hours a day it would be good for my brain
19:50but um actually it's a good thing i should do that i was thinking so i think what would be
19:54counter that would be helpful god yeah that'd be helpful but but you know if i did something that
19:59that you know if i stayed out every night parties every night drank yeah like an idiot and
20:05have you know husky voice showed up it's okay we're playing such and such a place it's not
20:10it's not a big town doesn't matter for some of his when it totally does and it makes a mockery of
20:16doing the whole thing so you keep it sort of honorable by dedicating yourself to just getting
20:22it right i still have a great time don't get me wrong but i'm pretty sloth like in the day like i
20:28can sit just play guitar for three hours and not saying anything and it's really good resting my voice
20:34and i'm much better at guitar that night because my fingers are super played in i i love the song
20:39land of milk and honey new album july 18th um i beat loneliness you're you're doing the tour with
20:45shined out any other dates anything else you want to mention uh we have north america or north america
20:50with shinedown of course uh we come looking forward to that and then we go to uh europe for like
20:5610 weeks with uh volbeat so we got massive tour in europe and then we have um february is um japan
21:05and australia is is bubbling so oh wow man that's awesome so last thing you have such awesome fans what
21:12do you want to say directly to your fans uh that i want to i'm so excited for them to to hear this record
21:19because it's like sitting on the best secret that you just die to tell your bestie you know go like
21:27and so some people talk about any creative act that you don't uh rick rubin you know who's obviously
21:36incredible um you don't think of your audience just do it for yourself you know and i don't know about
21:43that um as a songwriter of my own in my own algorithm i it's somehow it is intended like of
21:52course it has to please me in order to pursue the song or to to build on it you know one idea has to
21:59get another idea and i build it and if i don't like it i can't continue on but at the same time there's
22:06great joy in knowing um what people are going to get to hear there's people that really inspire
22:14me without realizing when they tell me that um please don't stop making just randomly like the
22:19last thing they'll say please don't stop making music because sometimes you can be you can say
22:23man have i done enough like you know there's a lot of records nine records what else is there
22:29but it's just i don't ever think actually i just think i want to make records so i think of those
22:34people that's why there's a song on the record called i'm here to save your life people told me
22:39that they played songs and they um um decided to get suicide and musically help them and i'd say no
22:46no you helped yourself it's like yeah you played this song that's beautiful but take strength in
22:53yourself so when i thought about those people i thought what's the most extreme thing to say to
22:58someone uh that you kind of want to connect to and so i'm here to save your life is the song and um
23:06that's a beautiful thing so i want to people to know that i thought of them all the way even if
23:12some people told me i shouldn't well gavin this was awesome thank you so much and and you're still
23:17making such amazing music why would you stop you know there's people who live in the past and you guys
23:23always seem like you're moving forward which is important i think in in life yeah because i'm
23:28terrified of the past because it haunts me and for different reasons you know what i mean so that's
23:33what depression is so often is you know the future you know regret or like how you could have done this
23:39differently could play this differently approached this suddenly said it in a different way what you
23:44meant to say was you know all those things that you sometimes can run it right through um unless you're
23:49weird and have no self-reflection and alan de botton who's a really great um psychologist in england
23:56said um if you're not embarrassed by the person who you were last year you're not doing any work on
24:03yourself that's true yeah that's great new song land of milk and honey new album i beat loneliness july 18th
24:10and uh this was awesome thank you so much thank you all the best