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  • 6/2/2025
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00:08Let's welcome in Dan Dibley, Mark Willard.
00:10It is the crossover.
00:12Hey, guys.
00:13What's going on, Stiney?
00:14Not a lot.
00:15Not a lot.
00:17Had a great Monday with Goo.
00:19We really jibed.
00:22Notice how I spell it with a B, which is the correct way.
00:24It is, yeah.
00:25I wonder what jibed is like when I listened off and on for, man, about three-plus hours of the four,
00:35and is part of the jibing you pulling out the paintbrush and, like, moving him all the way into the corner
00:41and then paint, paint, paint, paint, paint, paint?
00:45I wonder if that's part of the jibing.
00:47I don't know.
00:47You'll have to ask Goo.
00:49Well, I'm asking both of you.
00:50I was just being myself, Goo.
00:53Yeah, I was being myself.
00:55And I'm going to be different.
00:56No, I love it.
00:57And I wonder who's more negative.
00:59Somebody Friday pulled me aside, and somebody I care about, and told me the amount of times I interrupt during this process.
01:07So it's nothing personal.
01:08I'm just running the four corners off it.
01:10No, don't do it.
01:11But you asked me a question.
01:12No.
01:12So, yeah.
01:13I need you to interrupt.
01:15I need you on the—I want you on that interrupt.
01:17I need you on that interrupt.
01:19I need to know who this person is because now I need to pull that person aside.
01:22It was Norm.
01:23Yeah, Norm, come on.
01:25This is for people and an extent—
01:28And I get excited when more people—see, I'm interrupting you.
01:31I love that you did it.
01:32I need it.
01:32That's just how we speak to each other.
01:35I was just in Cabo with my best friends in life.
01:37We didn't wait for each other to finish sentences.
01:40Who does that?
01:41Who does that?
01:42If people knew the position you put me in without them knowing, it's unbelievable.
01:48And I love everything about that.
01:49So, Norm, huh?
01:50Norm said that.
01:51It was Norm.
01:53Come on, Norm.
01:55Norm!
01:55Yeah.
01:56Rest in peace.
01:56Rest in peace, George Watt.
01:57That's why I did it.
01:58That's why I did it.
01:59No, you did great.
02:00We went to the—you guys done?
02:02We went to the cafeteria Friday.
02:04And as we were about to have one, I said, R.I.P. to Norm, and everybody went, Norm.
02:11That's pretty awesome.
02:12Good.
02:12Yeah.
02:12I don't remember.
02:13I love what you guys did today.
02:16I thought today was actually helpful.
02:19Your radio show today was helpful.
02:22Catharsis.
02:23It really was.
02:24And if anybody's tuning in just now and doesn't know, kind of the summary of what the—you
02:29started out by saying that you're having a hard time finding the joy in watching sports.
02:37It's like KD.
02:37It's scary.
02:38Well, but I get it.
02:39I get it.
02:40And it got me thinking in so many different directions.
02:43And it might be almost at the core of why sports radio sounds the way it does sometimes when everybody's kind of—so, like, here's where my mind went.
02:57Your whole show was about whether or not you approach a season with expectation or hope.
03:06That, to me, was your whole show.
03:09And I think that's fascinating because that's a choice.
03:12That's a choice.
03:13There is no wrong answer.
03:15And can't they meet each other?
03:16Well, they do sometimes.
03:18They do sometimes.
03:19But I felt almost—I felt therapy because it helped me understand, to a certain degree, why I get called a homer a lot of times on this station.
03:32And it's not—I don't think I'm actually a homer.
03:35I think I don't look at sports through the lens of expectation.
03:39And if I'm going to be angry at a team, it's because they're the A's.
03:43That's anger-worthy.
03:46But we—you don't want to know what conversation this just led to with me and Dibs in the other room?
03:49Give it to us.
03:50Do you know how many people in the high-ranking levels of the 49ers, Giants, and Warriors are on the hot seat right now?
03:57I would say zero.
04:00None.
04:01None.
04:02Like, the hottest seat is probably Mike Dunleavy, and he's like George Girvin on that ice throne.
04:09No one's on the hot seat.
04:11Maybe Bob Melvin I threw out.
04:14No, he got a new boss nine months ago.
04:16Exactly.
04:16Like, no one's on the hot seat.
04:18And so, I think if your team is coming from an intuitive place, and they're making good faith with good intentions, efforts to try to win and be entertaining and all that, it's not always going to work.
04:31But if they're coming from the right place, then I don't get angry at the team.
04:36You don't win every year.
04:38The A's, you can get mad at that.
04:41I worked in San Diego when the Chargers left.
04:43You can get mad at that.
04:45You know, and you can get mad when people are pulling the rug out from underneath your feet.
04:49Pirates.
04:50Sure.
04:50I mean—
04:50I don't know exactly what—
04:51That's a joke.
04:52Yeah.
04:52Yeah.
04:53I mean, and you could do it in little moments.
04:57I got ticked off at the Giants for bunting in Detroit.
04:59Yeah, you did.
05:00Yeah, you were hot.
05:00It was hot.
05:02But from a larger sense, expectation versus hope.
05:05That's kind of the way I thought you guys were talking.
05:07The way I looked at it is, if you're not very good, it's hope.
05:11If your team is actually good, it becomes expectation.
05:14So, like the Warriors, yeah, you're not hoping that they make the playoffs next year.
05:18You're expecting it.
05:19Now, whether or not they can win a title, you guys did a whole healthy dose of that, and we will too.
05:24But for me, hope and expectation boils down to where are you as an organization?
05:30And, you know, the Giants right now, you're expecting them to at least be in the mix come September, right?
05:36No, no.
05:37Be, I mean, slightly above .500 and be in the wild card mix.
05:41You're hoping that they can win the whole damn thing, but you're not expecting them to, right?
05:46Well, I'm not, but if they get there, then you never know.
05:52I do believe that.
05:53I do think, though, that when it comes to the Giants, let's say, yes, I expect them to be in the mix.
06:00They were kind of in the mix last year, right?
06:02And they fell off a little late.
06:04If that happens again this year, I'd be a little disappointed if I were a Giants fan.
06:10If they don't make that third wild card.
06:13See, disappointment, I think, is an interesting word.
06:15Right.
06:16You can be disappointed, but how about angry?
06:21No, no, because if you go into the season being realistic, you know it's, they got a shot, but it's not guaranteed.
06:32So if they don't make it in, it would be disappointing.
06:36But if the Dodgers didn't make the playoffs, I could see how that might make their fan base angry.
06:43Although, they've had everything go wrong with their entire pitching staff, and it's led to them being 36 and 23.
06:49It's sick.
06:50It's crazy.
06:52But, like, what about this?
06:53Dibs, we should ask them if they see the Warriors season.
06:56If you were to grade the Warriors season.
06:58I got this from these guys.
06:59Oh, you did?
06:59I don't know if they gave a grade, but I heard them talking about grades, and in my car, I was like, oh, I know my grade.
07:05Okay.
07:05And his grade actually happened to be my grade.
07:07Exact same grade.
07:08And when I said my grade out loud, I was like, oh, okay.
07:11My own grade surprised me.
07:13Before we get theirs, since we didn't do ours, you go and I'll go so we can hear theirs.
07:19Well, I said it was a good year, so I got to give it a B.
07:22Okay.
07:22Go.
07:23I said unfulfilling for the way that it ended, but that's not the question, so I'm going B+.
07:28That's what we had.
07:29B+.
07:29Exact same grade that we gave it.
07:30Yeah, B+.
07:31B+.
07:31B+.
07:32And so, like, can you find joy?
07:35Get to YouTube to see the bespeckled Stiney.
07:38Go ahead.
07:38Go ahead, Willard.
07:39He gave him a serious DL right there.
07:41That's a dirty look for those of you scoring at home.
07:43Well, when doesn't he?
07:45Yeah.
07:45And those frames are fire, by the way.
07:48Oh, here.
07:48A little mix of, not W.C. Fields, but, like, it's Poindexter.
07:53Larry David's father on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
07:55Poindexter.
07:57Are those new frames like N-E-W frames, or are they N-U-E new frames?
08:03They're N-E-W.
08:04Yeah.
08:04They are N-E-W.
08:05Only Stiney, in the whole world, Stiney's the only other person who got that joke, but
08:09y'all understand it, too.
08:10I'm going to fight for my life.
08:12I mean, I'm, I thought you said you were disappointed in the season.
08:16Ben, oh, my gosh, for the umpteenth time, maybe two, four ears in the room, you'll hear
08:24it better.
08:25The bottom line is, this team was left for dead.
08:29I know that.
08:30Oh, what's going on with Steph?
08:31He don't look like himself.
08:32They made a blockbuster trade, and this is what he doesn't get.
08:36So, from the 23-8, even though it was prettier before it got to 23-8, at the end, we saw the
08:44numbers and the metrics go the Warriors' way, and guys, I jumped back on board of, oh, my
08:50gosh, this is a team that's done it in the past.
08:54They know how to do it.
08:55Now you got Jimmy Butler and all his credentials, and we're watching them suffocate teams.
09:00I just said, and I'm part of it, oh, my gosh, where's this thing going?
09:05So, I had Western Conference Finals, and I still will die on that hill because, to be
09:13honest, basketball-wise, yeah, we got beat by Minnesota, but did we without our best
09:19player?
09:20But see, did you see what you just did there?
09:22Tell me.
09:22I think this is the key to the whole thing.
09:24As soon as it got good, you placed a label on it.
09:28You placed an expectation.
09:30And what was the label?
09:31You said Western Conference Finals.
09:33And you said they could win it all.
09:34What is happening?
09:35But could is fine.
09:36But you said Western Conference Finals.
09:39But Draymond said they were going to.
09:41Draymond says lots of stuff.
09:43But as a fan, Will, real quick, doesn't that stem from euphoria that I'm happy with what
09:48I'm watching with this metamorphosis where I'm thinking, oh, my gosh.
09:52The beauty of your argument today, and the reason it would never end and you could do it
09:56again tomorrow, is you guys decided to discuss who's the positive one and then who's the
10:01negative one.
10:02And the answer in both cases is you.
10:04It's both.
10:05And that.
10:06Because you ride the wave and he's not got a surfboard.
10:10So when it's up, you're higher than he is.
10:13And when it's down, you're lower than he is.
10:15Okay.
10:15And that that that's the ride.
10:18That's what everyone loves about you.
10:20You go on the coaster and everyone gets to go with you when you go there.
10:24So when they get Jimmy Butler and win, we're going to win the championship.
10:28But then when they don't, it's like, I can't believe they didn't win the championship.
10:33Like that's that's the that's the roller coaster.
10:36But the expectation is where to me, that's where and this is great that you do it.
10:41Like, I don't like I didn't go in that far.
10:43I'm just like, let's see where it goes.
10:46This is great right now.
10:47Let's see where it goes.
10:49And then Steph Curry limped off the floor.
10:50And then that was the out.
10:51What about me fighting Stiney about how dare you say it was a pretty good season when you
10:57and I could be wrong here.
10:58Did you guys let me know when you don't like where they're at as an organization?
11:03Am I mixing fruit with that?
11:05How can you say it was a good season?
11:07But yet you're screaming from the rooftops that you don't like what direction they're
11:12going.
11:12And he shared that with us.
11:14So I fought him on that.
11:15Like, I don't think you get to stand in that line of it was a good season, but you don't
11:20like where they're at overall.
11:21No, you can because the season is completely independent from the direction in which they're
11:27going.
11:27And I don't judge the direction in which they're going because that's the only direction that
11:32they can actually go because you can't, in my opinion, you cannot trade Steph Curry.
11:39And so if you keep Steph Curry, all you can do is try to surround him with things that
11:44are cost effective, not, you know, mortgaging the future that can give him at least a chance
11:50to do what they did this year, which was be one of the last eight teams playing.
11:54So for me, shout out the the boy band one direction.
11:57You only have one direction.
12:00The other direction is completely ridiculous to me because the other direction is you trade
12:06Steph, you go full OKC and you go, you know what?
12:09We're going to go five years of amassing a war chest of draft picks and we'll see you
12:15in 2030.
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12:33Who?
12:35I just went.
12:36No, no, no, but we've stopped talking.
12:38The reason why it's a B plus, in my opinion, is because and I told Mark this and I asked
12:45him this question probably 14 times at least.
12:48I gave him in December and January all the way through and over under on playoff wins
12:54over under four and a half.
12:55What did he think?
12:56And he was under all the way until about March 27th win when they beat the Lakers.
13:02Right.
13:02When that thing started to pop with Jimmy Butler.
13:04And then Dendro the very next night when they.
13:07Yeah.
13:07Remember that?
13:08Yeah.
13:08The gauntlet week.
13:09Yeah.
13:09That one.
13:10So for me, the bar had always been set at four and a half playoff wins.
13:14You win a series.
13:15You don't get swept.
13:16And that is where I set the bar.
13:17And so because I set the bar there, they won five playoff games.
13:21That to me is good enough.
13:23And then what they were able to do and miss me with the whole idea of trades being hard
13:29because I'm just looking at the year and they've made four trades in the last 12 months.
13:34So trades aren't hard, guys.
13:36You do it all the flipping time.
13:39So what they did in the trades, though, going from Clay to Melton and company and Melton
13:45into Schroeder and Schroeder and company into Jimmy Butler, I thought that what they did
13:49with the roster was lightweight genius.
13:52And so because of that, and I know they have work to do this offseason, but where they are
13:56and where they started and where they ended up for me, that's what takes it from a B minus
14:00to a B plus.
14:01And I don't want to make this sound like Little League, but like, did you have fun?
14:06Did you have fun?
14:06It was incredible.
14:07Okay, like there were twists, there were turns that we didn't see coming.
14:11Like, I think if you just, and there's a mathematical way to do this, too.
14:15It's not just emotional.
14:17Mathematically, if you look at like, I'd describe it this way, the Q rating of the Warriors in
14:24this city once Jimmy arrived, it was through the roof.
14:27Oh, no doubt.
14:28It was through the roof.
14:29It was back like KD was still here.
14:31It was through the roof, and then when it stopped, there was at least a very, very
14:36heavy, large, understandable reason why it stopped.
14:40So like, how can you be angry?
14:43Disappointed?
14:44Yeah.
14:44Of course.
14:46Unfulfilled.
14:46Who does it?
14:47Any team, and this is almost all of them every year, that loses their last game.
14:52It's disappointing.
14:52Yeah.
14:53It's disappointing.
14:54It's disappointing because it's over.
14:56Okay.
14:56You know what I mean?
14:57But like, angry?
14:58I thought this was the core of our Jimmy Butler conversation.
15:02No, no.
15:03We got that out.
15:03But what about a Niner fan that wasn't around the last time they got it done, and you lead
15:09said football game twice by 10 points, and what hurt me today real quick about Stiney
15:14is when we were talking about the Niners, he just blew past me not knowing what a good
15:21time it's been, those regular seasons, the Niners with all the accolades and predictions,
15:26and them to live up to it, could you understand how somebody, or a diehard Niner fan, could
15:33be angry that they haven't got it done the last three Super Bowls?
15:37I mean, if you're asking, do I understand it?
15:39Yeah.
15:39Of course.
15:40Do I share it?
15:41No.
15:42I know that.
15:43I don't.
15:43And like, you and I have done this exercise before.
15:46A 10-point lead in an NFL game, with Mahomes being the other quarterback?
15:51That's nothing.
15:52That's nothing.
15:53The Knicks are giving up games where they're up by 14 with like 10 seconds to go.
15:58New NBA, but yeah.
15:59Do you know what I mean?
16:00Like, that's not, that's not, when is a 10-point lead, because we're in the fourth quarter,
16:05insurmountable?
16:07And it, like, it's nothing.
16:08And, Dibs, I lumped in the three Bay Area pro team.
16:13Yep.
16:13And just made a list of each year, how they did at their best.
16:19And it is staggering how much success we've had in the Bay Area with our pro teams compared
16:28with other cities.
16:29Yep.
16:29It is un-freaking-believable.
16:32And, okay, the Niners haven't won a Super Bowl, but there's been seven titles between
16:39the other two teams in 15 years.
16:41They've still made the Super Bowl three times.
16:45The Niners, it's like, we're spoiled.
16:49Spoiled.
16:50Beyond spoiled.
16:50And that's where I get to what Mark's talking about with, you know, hope and expectation,
16:56because our expectations now in this market are absolutely bananas through the roof.
17:01And you and I have a mutual friend, Derek Petrack, born and raised in Detroit.
17:06And so if you want to talk about Detroit expectations, well, now the Lions, the Lions have them for the
17:12first time maybe in his life.
17:14You've still retired today.
17:14Yeah.
17:15Yeah.
17:15And I know.
17:16And our friend Derek, I don't want to call him out, but he openly wept when they made
17:20it deep into the season last year because it's that special.
17:23And the Tigers are once every 20 years, they sniff it.
17:28And I'm going to put hockey aside, D.
17:29I apologize.
17:30I do love the Red Wings.
17:32Shout out Steve Iserman.
17:33But beyond that, like the Pistons, we're going to go back to the bad boy Pistons, which I believe
17:38was 89-90.
17:40Or no, they got the one, right, with Chauncey and the fellas.
17:43Yep.
17:44Did they not?
17:440-4, 0-5, 0-4.
17:47Okay, so three titles in the past 45 years.
17:49Yeah.
17:49And the Tigers have 0 in that time.
17:54Well, you know what would be a fun exercise to play with your friend is when that Lions-Niners
18:00NFC Championship game happened, what did it sound like in Detroit the next day versus what
18:07would it have sounded like if that had happened to the Niners?
18:10Oh, man.
18:11I think you still would be going.
18:12What if the Niners were up by 17 at half and blew the game?
18:17Oh.
18:17What would that sound like?
18:19And to me, it's anger versus sadness.
18:22I think Detroit was sad.
18:25They were like, you broke our hearts.
18:27We thought we were going to the Super Bowl.
18:30A Niner fan, though, then goes out two weeks later, goes to overtime at the Super Bowl,
18:35loses to one of the greatest of all time.
18:37I'm sure there were frustrating moments within it, but like anger.
18:43Anger.
18:44So, I mean, you know, it's not that I don't get it.
18:47You get it.
18:48You get it.
18:49And that's why I cited your tweet.
18:51I was driving home last week.
18:52I forgot to tell you.
18:53No, just about the Giannis, but just your team being relevant in the city.
18:59And I said, my car, why can't I be more like you had just from the tweet from afar,
19:04you have defined what your happiness was.
19:06And that was, that's all it's about.
19:08Well, I threw this at Grandy on Friday.
19:10So, I'd love to hear all three of you answer this.
19:13Because this was kind of the concept.
19:15What it would take for Giannis to be on the team and Jimmy Butler and Steph and Draymond
19:20all still be here, you're literally talking about a carcass.
19:23Like, it's those four and 12 Pat Spencers.
19:26That's what the team would be.
19:27And you'd have no assets for years to come.
19:30Which Steve Kerr already basically, this is what got us on the conversation.
19:33He publicly said, he's like, it's ludicrous.
19:35You don't do that when your stars are all 37 years old.
19:38You just flat out don't do that.
19:40But, what if you get Giannis, I guarantee you title next year.
19:45You win.
19:46You win the whole thing, Steph gets ring number five.
19:48However, after that, 12 years of no playoffs.
19:54Make the trade?
19:55Oh, no.
19:56I didn't know you were going there.
19:57No, 12 years, no playoffs.
19:58Okay.
19:59Stiney lived it.
20:00Did?
20:00I mean, I'd rather have you ask Stiney because he is covering that.
20:04But why so drastic?
20:05I can't wait.
20:05Because you're out of all assets.
20:08No assets, no picks.
20:09You've got no way to rebuild that team.
20:12And no way is anyone going to want to come here and be a free agent here if you've got,
20:16and I don't want to keep using Pat's name, but if you're the Fightin' Spencer's,
20:20because I love Pat and I defended him when you came down his road.
20:23Well, he's not a great NBA player.
20:28Anyway.
20:28He's an NBA player.
20:29He is.
20:30He's a great athlete.
20:3212 non-playoff appearances.
20:35That was what they did before Curry got here.
20:39It's a good question.
20:41Thanks, Stiney.
20:41And I think that, honestly, I think there's a lot of people that would say, I'll do that.
20:47And the reason would be because, unfortunately, in our area, they'd be like, we'll win next year,
20:51and then I'll just kind of check out as a hardcore fan.
20:55And I don't want to check out.
20:56Like, you want to know what that means to me?
20:58You get one more ring.
20:59We've already had four.
21:00But we get one more ring.
21:02But now, the next time I get to take my kid to a playoff game, he gets to buy the beer.
21:09He's 11.
21:10What are we doing?
21:11I don't want to do that.
21:13But I want to experience this every year with them.
21:16You know what I mean?
21:17So, to me, bad trade.
21:20Nelson, Adelman, Carlissimo, St. Gene, Cowan's, Winters, Musselman, Montgomery.
21:28What about Smart?
21:30Yeah.
21:30He's Smart?
21:32Not yet.
21:33No, not yet.
21:33Not yet.
21:34Nelson, Smart.
21:36I'm sorry.
21:37It started with Nelson and Lanier the first year.
21:41Oh, my.
21:42Then, two Adelmans, two and a little bit of personal.
21:46Do you have an Ed Gregory?
21:47No, I don't know.
21:48Oh, he was their interim GM.
21:49Yeah, no, he was with George Carl back in 88.
21:52And the win totals were 26-36-30, 19-21-19, 17-21-38, 37-34-34.
22:02Five years in a row, they won 21 or fewer games.
22:09Correct.
22:09Five years in a row.
22:11Time out.
22:12That is unbelievable.
22:13Now, in fairness, one of those was a lockout shortened season.
22:18P.J. Carlissimo, 21 and 29.
22:20Facts.
22:22Which bought him 27 games the next year until he choked me.
22:26He choked me, Kev.
22:27Dibs, I got to get this off before we go.
22:29Get it off.
22:29You were off Friday, and we were talking about the last American-born NBA MVP, James Harden.
22:35Yep.
22:35It's been a while.
22:36And all of a sudden now, you got Monte Ellis and anybody that'll listen, Gilbert Arenas.
22:42AAU is the reason because they're not teaching fundamentals.
22:46And I think that could be true, but it ain't all AAU.
22:50When I say that, you say what?
22:51Is it all AAU?
22:53These guys go to high school, too, to play.
22:55Well, to say AAU is putting an umbrella over what is really called club basketball now.
23:01Because it's not just AAU.
23:03Club basketball is a phenomenon that goes beyond AAU.
23:08But the real reason, the real issue for me is not only club basketball, but it's also the portal.
23:17And the idea that players, if you're a good college player or a college player who is a prospect,
23:23and you have one monster year, it's better for you to come out and flash and get in the draft
23:30as opposed to go out there and grind for four or five years and really learn the game
23:34because you go out there and you get that contract.
23:37So, I do think that it is somewhat of an American phenomenon about the way we teach and coach the game.
23:44It's changed.
23:45It's changed.
23:47It has.
23:49Just real quick, Stian.
23:51That's great analysis.
23:53That's my quote.
23:54I love that you said that.
23:56That's 2-12.
23:57I think you'll love this on your way out the door.
23:59It really has.
24:00Trades are hard.
24:01He doesn't have to leave.
24:02Yet, the Warriors, back in June of last year, they traded the No. 52 pick to the Thunder for Lindy Waters.
24:09The Thunder traded that pick to Portland.
24:12The Warriors bought that pick back from Portland.
24:15The Warriors used that pick to take Quentin Post.
24:18So, they basically got Lindy Waters for free.
24:21But trades are hard.
24:23Money.
24:24Not for free.
24:25They had to pay for it.
24:26I don't think Mike Dunleavy had to go out of pocket.
24:27No, but somebody did.
24:28Right, but the point is...
24:30Somebody had to pay for Quentin Post.
24:30That pick got traded and traded and then traded.
24:33Yeah, but that's...
24:34And then the Warriors reused the pick that they had already used?
24:37I don't think they meant that when they said trades are hard.
24:39They don't mean like for the 52nd pick in the draft for cash.
24:43They're talking about actual, like, players.
24:46But that pick got traded three different times.
24:48I don't understand.
24:48But you're talking about higher level stuff.
24:50What I'm talking about is the wildest, or the most craziest offseason that we're ever going to see.
24:55That's what Sean says.
24:55That's coming up.
24:57And trades are going to be flying.
24:59And we're going to report them, Stiney.
25:00And you know what we're going to report them?
25:02Tell me.
25:02I have no idea.
25:03On the radio.
25:0495-7 the game.
25:05A little more specific.
25:07Mm-hmm.
25:07Bay Area, it's Pat Spencer.
25:09Bay Area, it's Pat Spencer.