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Jake Ellzey Questions Navy Reserve Official About Recapitalization Efforts For Aircraft Fleet
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6/2/2025
During a House Appropriations Committee hearing prior to the Congressional recess, Rep. Jake Ellzey (R-TX) questioned Vice Admiral Nancy S. Lacore, Chief of Navy Reserve at the Department of the Navy, about recapitalization efforts.
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Kelsey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for being here. I was going to start serious,
00:04
but then I looked at the panel and I decided that, according to my written notes here,
00:08
Beat Army and Beat Air Force are not just a slogan, it's a reality this year. So I'm sorry
00:15
I had to say that. Good fun. Thank you all for being here. As I look at this distinguished panel,
00:23
and I mean that with all seriousness, I see combat leaders and corporate knowledge,
00:26
the likes of which can't be replicated anywhere else. And as we start any fight or respond to any
00:34
attack, after a sustained amount of time, it's the corporate knowledge and the aircraft and the men
00:39
and women that are represented by you that are the ones who sustain that fight. And so I think that
00:47
you have an incredibly difficult job, especially when we talk about recapitalization. And it's never
00:55
met, but when you come to the fight, you bring the second rate stuff, but the first rate
01:00
fighting men and women. So thank you for being here. General Anderson, Lonnie, as I've known you
01:06
for many, many years, in the short time that I have here, give me about 30 seconds of if you could
01:12
ask me to ask you a question, what would it be? And answer it real quick.
01:15
What are your Marine Corps reserves doing today? And Congressman, 12% of the Marines deployed forward
01:23
are reservists today. And that number is going to triple through 2027. So as we continue to prepare
01:28
for the fight, that's what the Marine Corps Reserve is focused on. And we are part of the total force.
01:33
Like a chairman mentioned earlier, we are not an afterthought. We are part of the solution. It is not
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something that we do later. We are forecasted in our deployments out through 2031. So our members can plan,
01:44
prepare, and be ready for that deployment. That's a perfect answer. Thank you for asking.
01:49
Yeah. And those folks are dual-headed. They're doing civilian jobs back at home with families,
01:56
and then they put on the uniform, as all of you have, and go to the fight. And that's to be
02:01
commended. And we've relied on that in every fight since Desert Storm and even before.
02:07
Going as we talk about the Indo-PACOM, which is usually the first word that comes out as we're
02:14
talking about China, we talk about contested logistics. The Marine Corps is going to play
02:19
a very large role in that. But so is contested logistics. Not only means cargo, but it also means
02:26
tanking. And Admiral LaCour, no slouch yourself in the cockpit. I think that you and I shared the
02:33
round domes in San Diego at the same time when I was at HS4. We've tried to get you all some recap
02:40
on your KC-130Js. Talk a little bit about the capabilities of the J versus what you're trying
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to recap on, and how many you need in fiscal year 26 to accomplish that mission of contested logistics.
02:55
Thank you, Congressman. Happy to talk about that. As you know, the C-130 is only operating
03:00
in the reserve, and it provides the Navy's only inter-theater airlift capable of moving
03:06
oversized cargo. And we're not part-time. We're doing this 24-7, 365 in all the major theaters.
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We have 27 aircraft right now, the Tangos, with an average age of 34 years and a mission-capable
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rate of 40%. Recapping to the Julietts will get us, first and foremost, survivability systems,
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which will allow us to operate in that contested environment. But we'll also anticipate a 75%
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mission-capable rate, which will go a long way. We started this recap journey in 2024,
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and we're behind Glideslope, honestly. The plan was to be at 32 aircraft by 2030. We got one in 24,
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two in 25, and we're super grateful for them. But right now, for the out years, we need to be looking
03:47
at six per year in order to get us where we need to go. And what are we going to get out of this?
03:52
A lot. We anticipate doubling our sortie rate, getting three times the service radius in combat.
04:00
And if you're looking at aerial refueling and ground refueling in an austere air
04:04
field, we're looking at eight times what we have currently available to us.
04:08
Okay. Well, I know that the KC-130J, for those who don't know, the J will only refuel Marine Corps and
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Navy aircraft. It won't, at least in this configuration, will not refuel our Air Force
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brothers and sisters. So as we talk about the Indo-PACOM, which is, it's an all-services fight,
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but we talk about the Naval services a lot. So you said, what was the percentage of availability
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of the T? About 40%. About 40%. So we're just a couple of years. If we fund you for what you need
04:43
over the next two to three years, you're actually going to surpass your capability with far fewer
04:48
aircraft because of the higher availability rate, right? So we need to be emphasizing getting you
04:53
what you need in the next couple of years. Would you agree with that? 100%. Absolutely agree.
04:57
All right. Five minutes goes fast. Mr. Chairman, thank you for your time. I yield back.
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