- 5/29/2025
🎙️ In a powerful discussion on Dialogue Works, geopolitical analyst Alex Krainer delivers a stunning analysis: the war in Ukraine hasn't just reshaped Eastern Europe—it has permanently altered the global balance of power. 🛰️⚔️ From energy realignments to shifting alliances, Krainer explains how the conflict has accelerated the decline of Western hegemony 🌐 and sparked the rise of a multipolar world order. 🌏⚖️ The dominance of the U.S. and its allies is being openly challenged, while nations across Asia, Africa, and South America begin forging new paths toward sovereignty and cooperation. 🛢️💹 This isn’t just another conflict—it’s the turning point of the 21st century. 🧠📉
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00:00:00Hi, everybody. Today is Thursday, May 29th, 2025, and our friend Alex Cranor is back with us. Welcome back, Alex.
00:00:13Thank you for having me, Neema. Good to join you once more.
00:00:18Alex, let's start with Elon Musk. He was one of the main figures in the Trump administration.
00:00:26Before coming to power and the aftermath of the election, presidential election in the United States, right now he's out of the government.
00:00:35He just, and recently he had an interview in which he said the bill on the part of the government that Donald Trump mentioned, it was big and beautiful.
00:00:45He said, you cannot have both of them together. It's big or beautiful. It cannot be.
00:00:51How do you feel about Elon Musk and the way that he tried to somehow help the Trump administration?
00:01:01Well, you know, I think that Elon Musk approached his government work as though it was a business.
00:01:12So he tried to improve the efficiency of the system, you know, to cut waste, to find corrupt practices.
00:01:20And my understanding is that he has managed to figure out between 150, sorry, 115 and 175 or $180 billion in savings, which is very good, but it's not very significant in terms of government spending.
00:01:44And I think that the problem, the frustration that is going to creep out anyway, is very, very deeply systemic.
00:01:55Namely, there is just no way for government to reduce deficits, you know, to reduce the budget deficits without plunging the economy into a recession or even a depression.
00:02:17And there's also no way for the government to stop borrowing money without causing a deep recession or a depression.
00:02:29And that's to do with the nature of the monetary system under which the United States and pretty much the whole rest of the world operates.
00:02:37And, you know, this needs to be understood because for decades, for as long as I remember paying attention to politics, conservative politicians go into government promising that they will reduce spending, that they will balance the budget, that they will pay down the country's debts and so on.
00:03:01And it never happens, never, ever, ever, ever, ever, and I think that it's time for people to start noticing this.
00:03:09And it's not because these politicians aren't necessarily sincere.
00:03:14It's not because some conservative politicians might not actually like to do that.
00:03:21It's just that the way the government operates is fundamentally different from the way you would operate a business company or a household.
00:03:28And, again, it goes back to the money.
00:03:31And I'll try to explain.
00:03:34Basically, all the money that goes into circulation goes into circulation as debt.
00:03:40So the government has to take on debt.
00:03:42When they take on debt, the central bank or private banks, they issue loans to the government by buying government bonds.
00:03:52And then the government has money to spend.
00:03:55And that's the only way that the bulk of all currencies in circulation gets into the economy, into circulation.
00:04:06Only a very small percentage of money represents something else, which is, you know, coins and notes.
00:04:11It's about 2% or 3%.
00:04:13Now, the problem with debt is that you have to repay it with interest, right?
00:04:19But the amount of interest is never put into circulation.
00:04:27So the only way you can – and then there's another problem.
00:04:33And that is that every time you pay down debt, that amount of money simply disappears from circulation.
00:04:45The effect is that when money disappears from circulation, it creates a reduction in the purchasing power that's available in the system.
00:04:58If you reduce the amount of purchasing power that's available in the system, then the system's output, all the goods and services that are being created in this economy, cannot be sold at their list price.
00:05:17Which means that the businesses have to lower their prices in order to be able to sell their goods and services.
00:05:25So this is not for every individual company proportionately.
00:05:30But there's always going to be a percentage of participants in this economy who are not going to be able to sell enough goods to stay in business.
00:05:39So then what happens is that you have this deflationary gap.
00:05:45I mentioned paying down the debts.
00:05:48Another problem is that people – all the money that is spent on producing the goods – so cost of goods sold, entrepreneur's profit, lawyer's fees, accountant's fees –
00:06:04All of those amounts are also the income of the people who create the goods, you know, the salaries, the profits, the interest payments and so on.
00:06:15So on the one side, you have the cost of goods and services.
00:06:20On the other side, those same amounts of money represent income of those people who produce the goods.
00:06:27And conversely, they're the system's purchasing power, the purchasing power that's available in the system at any one given point in time.
00:06:38So if people typically put away 5% to 10% of all that money into savings, they don't spend the money as soon as they earn it.
00:06:48They set it aside in savings.
00:06:51And then other people, they pay down their debts, so that money disappears.
00:06:56So the savings and the money that's been eliminated by paying the debts vanishes from circulation and it reduces the purchasing power in the system.
00:07:10Okay.
00:07:11So in order to absorb the purchasing power that's available, then businesses have to lower their prices of goods and services in order to be able to sell everything that they produced.
00:07:21And if they have to lower the prices, that means that they're not going to be profitable as much as they expected.
00:07:27So they might, in the next cycle, they might have to let go of some people.
00:07:31They might have to reduce their capacities, their production capacities.
00:07:36And then they're going to further, you know, by letting go of people, by selling, producing less,
00:07:44they further reduce the availability of purchasing power in the system.
00:07:48And what you get in the dynamic is you get the so-called deflationary death spiral.
00:07:56It means that the system left to itself is going to go into a depression or a recession,
00:08:03and it's only going to stabilize at a very basic level of business.
00:08:09You know, like the necessities are going to be produced, food, bread, basic goods.
00:08:17But you're going to get a depression-level economy.
00:08:20And so in order to bridge this gap in purchasing power, the government has to step in.
00:08:29If you listen to economists, they're going to say, like, oh, no, no, no, you know,
00:08:32the people's savings, they go back into the system through investment.
00:08:37In theory, yes.
00:08:38In practice, it doesn't really happen that way.
00:08:40And so the government has to step in to avert recession.
00:08:47And the dynamic of the system is such that with every cycle, the government has to increase the amount of money
00:08:55that they inject back into the system to maintain the level of purchasing power high enough that the economy keeps growing.
00:09:06Now, I'm sure that this is not being discussed between Trump and Elon Musk.
00:09:13But people in the system, in the Treasury, in the central bank, in the Federal Reserve,
00:09:20they will know this and they will tell, you know, that that's going to be those men in black suits that, you know,
00:09:26Vladimir Putin was referring to.
00:09:28And they're going to sit down, President Trump, and say, okay, you can defund these sectors,
00:09:34but you have to spend that money anyway.
00:09:38So spend it on your Space Forces, spend it on something else, but you cannot just cut government spending
00:09:46and you cannot even dream about, you know, the conservative fantasy of a small government
00:09:52and minimal government interference in the economic system.
00:09:56That doesn't exist.
00:09:57And, you know, if you need proof for that, you can look at the deficits, the budget deficits of any government
00:10:06that has this monetary system in place.
00:10:09They look like this.
00:10:11Every government, everywhere in the world.
00:10:13And it doesn't matter how much politicians promise to reduce the government spending to cut back deficits,
00:10:20to pay back the debts and balance the books and so on.
00:10:24It never happens, and it's for a reason.
00:10:27And it's never going to happen until you reform the monetary system.
00:10:31So I think that, you know, Donald Trump was probably sat down by men in black suits and told,
00:10:45you can't cut spending.
00:10:47Forget it.
00:10:48That is just like you're going to crash the economy.
00:10:50And Elon Musk, you know, as a businessman, as an entrepreneur, who is probably very sensitive
00:10:58to government waste, probably can't quite accept this because it seems ridiculous.
00:11:06And it is ridiculous, but it is the way the system works.
00:11:10And until you reform the system, you're not going to be able to change this.
00:11:15And so I think that at that point, you know, their convictions and their interests diverged.
00:11:23And understandably, Elon Musk is perhaps a little bit disgusted with what he found,
00:11:28that, you know, all the work that he's put into finding all these inefficiencies and corruptions
00:11:33and so forth, that essentially nothing's going to be done about it.
00:11:37Or, you know, they're going to pour money from one bucket into another.
00:11:41And again, the same and bigger and bigger and bigger amounts of government spending
00:11:46are going to continue.
00:11:49And so he probably decided that he's wasting his time while he could be running his businesses
00:11:55for greater effect and profit for himself.
00:11:59So I imagine that this is where the rift came in.
00:12:05But, you know, it's not Trump's fault and it's not Elon Musk's fault.
00:12:11The error is in the system and the system needs to be reformed.
00:12:15But in order for the system to be reformed, people have to understand what they want from
00:12:19it and what the error is.
00:12:22And then those reforms would have to be so radical and so far-reaching that you'll need new money.
00:12:31You'll need to invent a new monetary system, which is quite a complex problem.
00:12:37Our central bankers are working on it.
00:12:40But the way our central bankers are envisioning the solution is something that none of us really want,
00:12:46which is CBDCs, right, central bank digital currencies.
00:12:49And so there's going to have to be a clash between the people and the bankers.
00:12:56And this is, you know, this is something that Lord Acton has already predicted more than 150 years ago
00:13:03when he said the issue that has swept through centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later
00:13:09is people versus the banks.
00:13:11And this is where we're at now.
00:13:12Alex, when it comes to Elon Musk, we, as you've mentioned,
00:13:19you've mentioned the sort of reforms that he wanted to do within the Trump administration
00:13:27and considering the government spending, Doge, all of that.
00:13:31The other part of Elon's character is the way that he saw the foreign policy of the United States.
00:13:38It's not just about Russia, China, Iran.
00:13:43He said that he was somehow criticizing the way that the United States sees the conflict in Ukraine.
00:13:53He was not interested.
00:13:55He's not interested in any sort of direct war with China.
00:13:59He started, the first one, who started talking with Iranians in New York,
00:14:03with the Iranian ambassador at the UN, he started talking with them
00:14:08to start these sort of negotiations between Iran and the United States.
00:14:13This is a guy who is not interested in wars.
00:14:18He is interested in deals.
00:14:20And somehow, how do you see the impact that he's going to have after leaving the Trump administration?
00:14:28Do you think these people who are, who were somehow advocating,
00:14:33I would say the face of these people would be Elon Musk and maybe Steve Witkoff right now,
00:14:38who are not interested in wars, who want to find some sort of political solution
00:14:44for what's going on with the foreign policy of the United States?
00:14:47Do you think that sort of argument is going to be weaker as time goes by
00:14:54or they're going to, Donald Trump has the capabilities to make some sort of balance within the government?
00:15:06I think that the only way that this side of argument is going to get weakened is by deception,
00:15:13you know, by a large-scale deception of people.
00:15:16Because any peacetime industry, any entrepreneur who works in a, you know,
00:15:26in some kind of a business that produces goods and services for the markets in peacetime,
00:15:37Elon Musk is an example of this, right?
00:15:39He has a social media service.
00:15:42He has electric vehicles productions, a space program.
00:15:47So unless you're working directly in a military-industrial complex
00:15:51or unless you're part of the banking system,
00:15:54you have a very strong interest in cultivating peace
00:15:58because obviously, you know, China, India, Russia,
00:16:02all of these countries could be large consumer markets for your products.
00:16:10So obviously, you have an interest in cultivating peace
00:16:14and a constructive dialogue between these governments
00:16:18and an understanding because, you know, Trump has, I'm sorry,
00:16:22Elon Musk has assembly plants in China.
00:16:26He's counting on the Chinese market to continue buying his cars.
00:16:33Everybody in the world is using X.
00:16:37And, you know, I'm sure that he's planning more products like this.
00:16:41He has a very important impact also on public opinion
00:16:51because many people in the world, people who are most active
00:16:56in paying attention to the news and in the narrative
00:17:02and formulating the narrative after all, are on X.
00:17:06And he has millions of followers there.
00:17:08So he's very influential and, you know, for the banking system
00:17:13and for the military-industrial complex to continue to foment wars,
00:17:19they have to override this.
00:17:23They have to override the interest of, let's call it, peacetime industries
00:17:28and they have to override the public opinion
00:17:31that is generally never in favor of wars.
00:17:35And so we've seen that through history how that's done, you know,
00:17:38usually they go enemies at the gates, but the barbarians at the gates.
00:17:41So they have to, you know, in Europe, they're trying to convince everybody
00:17:45that Russians are coming to get us after they're done with Ukraine,
00:17:50that they're going to invade the rest of Europe.
00:17:53And in the United States, they're trying to persuade the people
00:17:57that the Chinese are coming to get, you know, to overrun the country.
00:18:01So you have to raise the fear against the outside enemy,
00:18:07which also gives the cohesion to the ruling establishment because people,
00:18:13if they're afraid of an external enemy, then they close the ranks
00:18:18behind their leaders, whoever they are, even if they hate them otherwise.
00:18:22And so, you know, we see this in a lot of these think tank papers
00:18:29and the presentations and lectures that they deliver.
00:18:33You know, you had several weeks ago Janan Ganesh, you know,
00:18:40a columnist of the Financial Times who wrote an article about the preparations
00:18:48for war against Russia, and he was saying, well, the public aren't quite buying it.
00:18:56And then he said that the chronic discomfort is not sufficient.
00:19:05An element of real fear has to come in.
00:19:09And, you know, what Janan Ganesh wrote there isn't particularly different
00:19:15and new to what we've seen in the past.
00:19:18You know, even with the pandemic, we had this PSYOP operation who were saying,
00:19:24well, we have to introduce the element of intense and overarching fear
00:19:30in the society for everybody to comply.
00:19:35So, you know, if you get real information from X, from TikTok, from YouTube,
00:19:39from wherever, you know, then you realize that people in China,
00:19:43people in Russia, they're like us, they want to live normal lives,
00:19:47they want to work, they want to create things, they want to buy other things,
00:19:51and we can all get along and trade together.
00:19:54But for the military-industrial complex and for the bankers to get their wars,
00:19:58they have to try to undo this.
00:20:01They have to pretend that the Russians are different from us,
00:20:05that they are bad, that they are barbaric.
00:20:08Same for the Chinese.
00:20:09And their regimes are extremely dangerous, you know, like the COVID virus and all this.
00:20:15And so we have to prepare for war.
00:20:17And in order for us to accept going to war, we have to be really,
00:20:21really afraid of the other enemy, of the enemy, of the external enemy.
00:20:25And not only that, our economies have to be destroyed because, you know,
00:20:28when people are prosperous, they think about other things.
00:20:31They don't think about enemies and dangers from outside.
00:20:36So you have to, you know, you have to lower the, they have this,
00:20:42how do you call it, managed decline plan, the plan of managed decline,
00:20:46the industrialization of the whole continent, high unemployment,
00:20:50high youth unemployment, and then scare the living daylights from the people
00:20:56against the outside enemies.
00:20:59That's how you engineer consent for war.
00:21:03And so I think that in this sense, Elon Musk is a big problem.
00:21:08And we had, you know, the British Center for Countering Digital Hate,
00:21:14the DCH organization, which was set up in Britain in 2019.
00:21:21And then they set it up in the U.S. in 2021.
00:21:27And one of their main objectives was to, quote, kill Elon Musk's ex,
00:21:32kill Elon Musk's Twitter.
00:21:36And this is exactly because they were losing the battle for the control
00:21:40of the narrative.
00:21:44Is Elon Musk going to continue to have an influence on U.S. policy?
00:21:49I think so.
00:21:51And I think that the, you know, the battle for the freedom of speech
00:21:55in the United States is being won by the people.
00:21:58And it's not questioned so much of Elon Musk or Donald Trump even.
00:22:03It's that the people are vigorously defending it and demanding it.
00:22:12And I think that even if Trump wanted to go back to the policies
00:22:16of Biden administration of widespread censorship and creation
00:22:21of all these centers for digital hate and ministry of truth
00:22:26and prosecutions for, you know, hate crimes and things like this,
00:22:34I think he couldn't do it without losing legitimacy and popularity.
00:22:38And so I think it's going to be very, very difficult for them now
00:22:45to engineer consent for war.
00:22:48And I think that Elon Musk is definitely playing a positive role
00:22:52in this sense.
00:22:53One of the major issues in the human history is to authorize a society,
00:23:01a communication, then go after them, then fight them,
00:23:05make them different from what you are.
00:23:08This is, we know that Russia was the center of this sort of strategy.
00:23:13You look at the media, like a technology, they have everything at their disposal
00:23:17to make Russia that society, that person, that evil, ultimate evil to be destroyed.
00:23:25And do you think that with what has happened with Donald Trump,
00:23:30two posts that he put on his social truth,
00:23:35one of them is calling Vladimir Putin absolutely crazy,
00:23:39this would be the downfall of Russia if they want to capture all of Ukraine,
00:23:44and then second, after, yesterday, it was on 27th,
00:23:50he again posted that Putin is playing with fire.
00:23:57This is somehow ridiculous because Donald Trump is going,
00:24:03because for us, that we saw how Donald Trump was talking about
00:24:09the conflict in Ukraine before coming to power.
00:24:12It seems in the aftermath of the presidential election in the United States,
00:24:17as time went by, Donald Trump has been much more isolated
00:24:22from the real information coming from Ukraine.
00:24:28Do you think that Donald Trump really appreciates what has happened in Ukraine
00:24:34and how the conflict in Ukraine has changed everything,
00:24:39everything, not just the region?
00:24:44It's very difficult to say, Nima, and I think you're absolutely right
00:24:48that if you look at Donald Trump's statements from a few weeks ago
00:24:52or a few months ago or even a few days ago,
00:24:55compared to most recent statements about the same thing,
00:25:01they're not consistent.
00:25:04They're very often inconsistent,
00:25:06and he himself is incoherent in this sense.
00:25:10So, you know, once you see something, you can't unsee it.
00:25:16So, if he took the correct position on issue X and then, you know,
00:25:26a few weeks later or a few months later,
00:25:29he takes a completely different position,
00:25:33then I have to imagine that he's probably doing it for some audience
00:25:37that is relevant to him politically at that moment.
00:25:40So that the, you know, as you would do in sports,
00:25:49that it's some kind of a head fake, you know,
00:25:52it's a deception ploy.
00:25:57So I kind of stopped paying attention to these antics
00:26:01because they don't make any sense.
00:26:03You know, to call Vladimir Putin absolutely crazy
00:26:07because he launched a missile attack into Ukraine
00:26:11and then to even add the statement
00:26:14that he's killing a lot of people
00:26:17for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
00:26:20Wait a minute.
00:26:21How do you know that it's for absolutely no reason whatsoever?
00:26:25And then a reporter tells him,
00:26:26well, you know, there was a Ukrainian drone attack
00:26:31with hundreds of drones,
00:26:33and there was a risk that they could even down
00:26:36Vladimir Putin's helicopter and assassinate him.
00:26:40And then Trump says, like, oh, I didn't hear that.
00:26:43I didn't know that.
00:26:45How did you not know that?
00:26:47Do your people not brief you?
00:26:49That's, I mean, that's so silly.
00:26:51It's hard for me to even believe that.
00:26:54But then, you know, if you were not briefed about this,
00:26:57then you couldn't categorically state
00:27:01that the Russian attack was for no reason whatsoever.
00:27:08That is just childish.
00:27:12And so, you know, I imagine that this is theater
00:27:16being played out for some audience,
00:27:18that I'm not sure which audience it is,
00:27:20but I imagine it might be the military-industrial complex,
00:27:25it might be the banking cartel.
00:27:29I don't know.
00:27:31But, of course, there's always a possibility
00:27:33that Trump is losing his marbles, you know,
00:27:36because he is a certain age,
00:27:39and it may well be that he's, you know,
00:27:42also starting to show signs of dementia.
00:27:46I genuinely don't know.
00:27:49It doesn't seem that he's a demented person.
00:27:52And making such blatant, unforced errors
00:28:01and such absolutely silly statements,
00:28:05I think the only coherent explanation to my mind
00:28:11is that it's simply theater for some audience
00:28:17that he needs to either deceive or impress
00:28:19or, you know, misdirect for some reason.
00:28:26And I imagine that the Russians are not very impressed by this,
00:28:30meaning that they don't care.
00:28:32This is a circus play happening in the United States.
00:28:43It has nothing to do with us.
00:28:45We have our agenda.
00:28:46We have our plan.
00:28:47We have our mission.
00:28:48And we're executing.
00:28:50Whatever they think, whatever they're talking about,
00:28:53it doesn't matter.
00:28:54It's completely irrelevant.
00:28:55And so they say, like, well, you know,
00:28:58these are emotional issues,
00:29:00and Mr. Trump, you know, made an emotional reaction.
00:29:06That's okay.
00:29:07We don't care.
00:29:08We move on.
00:29:11Yeah.
00:29:11The negative part of what's going on
00:29:16is the culture of name-calling other countries' presidents.
00:29:20And when you call a superpower president,
00:29:25it's not just about Donald Trump.
00:29:30We've seen the same thing from the Biden administration.
00:29:33Joe Biden himself was calling Pung.
00:29:38And the same culture is continuing in the United States.
00:29:42And whenever it comes to Xi, Pung, other leaders,
00:29:47that they're not somehow happy with them.
00:29:50And do you think that is there anybody in the U.S. government
00:29:57who, as you've mentioned,
00:29:59they're not briefing him with the same information
00:30:02maybe we are receiving from alternative media?
00:30:05Because Donald Trump doesn't have that much of time
00:30:07to go and watch each and everything.
00:30:09He's much involved in various issues
00:30:14within the U.S. government
00:30:16that makes sense, after all.
00:30:20But if your government is providing,
00:30:22you've mentioned the drone attack
00:30:23on the Russian president.
00:30:28Your own government is providing intelligence,
00:30:31providing everything about the attack on him.
00:30:35And you are blaming, putting the blame
00:30:37on the same guy that your government tried to assassinate.
00:30:42It's just unbelievable.
00:30:44It's beyond.
00:30:44When you put yourself in the shoes of Russia,
00:30:48are these guys really serious
00:30:52in the way they're talking?
00:30:54Who's running the show in the U.S. government?
00:30:57Do you believe, Alex,
00:31:00that the people who are doing this
00:31:03within the U.S. government
00:31:04are not informing Donald Trump what they're doing?
00:31:12Yeah, that's entirely possible.
00:31:15I think it's even likely.
00:31:16But you see, this is exactly where the problem lies.
00:31:19It would be very difficult politically
00:31:21for Donald Trump to be fully honest
00:31:25and fully sincere and introspective to say,
00:31:28look, we have done all these wrong things.
00:31:32We have created this bad situation.
00:31:35And to then accept responsibility
00:31:38for the outcomes and for everything that happened.
00:31:42So to an extent, he has to play for the team
00:31:45and to pretend that, oh, look, we're always the good guys.
00:31:50We're always trying to do the right thing.
00:31:53And so you deflect blame on other people
00:31:57and you accuse them for being unreasonable
00:31:59and for being bad and violent and all of those things.
00:32:04Because after all, you're the leader of your country.
00:32:10And one of the very important things
00:32:12that you have to maintain is morale.
00:32:16You know, you have to defend people's morale.
00:32:22You can't now dump a whole bunch of dirty laundry at them
00:32:28that they never saw before and say, like,
00:32:30here, look, this is what your tax dollar has been doing.
00:32:34This is how rotten your system is.
00:32:37We've wronged Russia.
00:32:38We've wronged China.
00:32:39We've done all these bad things because, you know,
00:32:42it's hard to govern a country if you, you know,
00:32:47imagine if we're a sports team.
00:32:50You know, whether your team functions,
00:32:54whether they're capable of winning games on the field,
00:32:57depends on their morale.
00:32:59And if you tell them, hey, look, you know,
00:33:01your parents are all alcoholic and your mothers,
00:33:03they're all prostitutes.
00:33:04And you're children of illegitimate marriages and, you know,
00:33:09all of, you know, like you throw a whole lot of bad news at them
00:33:13all at once.
00:33:15You know, they walk out on the field
00:33:17and they would feel very disheartened
00:33:19and they wouldn't care and they wouldn't play their best.
00:33:22I imagine that this is all valid for running a government
00:33:26and running a military and running, you know,
00:33:29a diplomatic service and a spy service and all of these people.
00:33:32And so you have to, you're the captain of the ship.
00:33:40You have to keep all hands on the deck, everybody involved,
00:33:46everybody doing their best.
00:33:48And so you have to talk up your side.
00:33:50That's part of the job, you know,
00:33:52and it's understandable that he's not going to say like, oh, you know,
00:33:55by the way, you know, it's the war in Ukraine is our fault.
00:33:59And, yeah, walking away from JCPOA, that was us, yeah.
00:34:04And walking out of the, you know, intermediate missile treaty,
00:34:09yeah, we did that too.
00:34:11And, oh, yeah, by the way, we also firebombed the German
00:34:13and Japanese cities and dropped two nuclear bombs on the Japanese,
00:34:17killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
00:34:20Oh, yeah, and Vietnam and North Korea and Laos and Cambodia
00:34:25and all of that, yeah, we did that too.
00:34:27Oh, yeah, and the torture and, you know, so you have your four years.
00:34:32You have to do the best you can for it.
00:34:34And it's really important that you maintain a positive morale.
00:34:38You know, one person who was doing it in a different way was Jimmy Carter.
00:34:42Jimmy Carter came out.
00:34:43He was also a banker's puppet, but he was trying to be, you know,
00:34:47intellectually honest and to try to convey to the American people all the wrongs
00:34:56that the American government has done to bring them to Vietnam
00:34:59and Korean War and all this.
00:35:02And it didn't do much good.
00:35:05And in the end, people, you know, he disqualified himself
00:35:08and made himself unpopular with the American people.
00:35:12And it wasn't a very effective policy tool as such.
00:35:19Alex, we had, despite what Donald Trump said on social media,
00:35:26we had the German Chancellor Merz confirming that they have lifted restrictions
00:35:33on the range of weapons provided to Ukraine.
00:35:37He said that then, many people said that now that's not going to be the case.
00:35:42He confirmed it yesterday again,
00:35:44that they're going to provide Ukraine with longer range capabilities.
00:35:51How do you see Donald Trump?
00:35:55On the other hand, we know that in the United States,
00:35:58the Senate is pushing for 500% secondary sanctions on Russia,
00:36:03which somehow people within the Trump administration are feeling good
00:36:07because that would bring some sort of pressure to Russia.
00:36:11Do you feel that Europe is on the path of escalation,
00:36:18is going to change the line that the Trump administration
00:36:22tried to draw in the conflict in Ukraine?
00:36:25I mean, who has the upper hand right now, in your opinion?
00:36:30The people who are fighting for a Ukrainian settlement
00:36:34or the people who are preaching, who are doing everything to continue the conflict?
00:36:43Well, it seems to me that people who are preaching for the settlement
00:36:46are the same ones who want to continue the conflict.
00:36:48If you're talking about General Kilog, right?
00:36:51I'm talking, Alex, mostly because when, in my opinion,
00:37:00the attitude of Steve Witkoff is not the same attitude that we hear from Keith Kellogg.
00:37:06But the problem is that Steve Witkoff is somehow disappearing from the scene.
00:37:11I don't know why.
00:37:12I don't know if Donald Trump is doing this on purpose
00:37:16or is it something that the political system is just removing him from the scene?
00:37:24Again, you know, I'm going to guess because I don't know.
00:37:28It seems to me that Trump is sincere in trying to forge a good relation with Russia.
00:37:37I think that based on his previous statements about the situation,
00:37:44that he understands the lay of the land.
00:37:48And it seems to me that the Russians want to finish the war.
00:37:53And so the way Trump and Witkoff have managed the situation
00:37:57is indirectly giving Russia free hands to finish the war on their terms.
00:38:06Whereas, you know, the other side would be pressuring Russia
00:38:09for this 30-day unconditional ceasefire,
00:38:13which would basically kind of freeze the conflict
00:38:16to allow, you know, Ukraine time to regroup
00:38:20and reorganize their defense to restart the war.
00:38:26So that is basically the British initiative.
00:38:31The British, you know, it was, it goes back a long way,
00:38:36you know, that the British were preparing this.
00:38:39They've been preparing this pretty much from World War II.
00:38:42If you read the operational thinkable,
00:38:44they pretty much defined that the only way
00:38:48they were going to achieve their objective
00:38:51is through a total war against Russia.
00:38:58And then they say that it is essential for them
00:39:02to bring the United States and Western Europe on their side
00:39:05in that total war.
00:39:07And if you look at the way the British have managed this war,
00:39:14behind the scenes, you know, it's hidden,
00:39:19you see that everything that is happening
00:39:22is pretty much in accordance to the way they have set it out.
00:39:28And then as soon as the war started in 2022,
00:39:31they created this project, Alchemy,
00:39:36where you had the veterans of British military
00:39:41and British intelligence,
00:39:42Keith Klarenberg wrote an absolutely fantastic piece
00:39:47about this in, I think, in The Grey Zone
00:39:49or on his Substack,
00:39:53based on the leaked documents.
00:39:56And they pretty much say it very explicitly early in 2022
00:40:04that their objective is to keep Ukraine fighting at all costs,
00:40:10pretty much in those words.
00:40:12And everything is subject to the plan of expanding the war,
00:40:21escalating it into a total war between West and Russia
00:40:25and keeping Ukraine fighting.
00:40:28That is, sabotaging any peace deal,
00:40:31any cessation to hostility,
00:40:34any truce between Russia and, you know,
00:40:38permanent armistice between Russia and Ukraine.
00:40:41And so I think that this is the exact same line of thought,
00:40:47the exact same strategy and agenda
00:40:50as what Keith Kellogg is advocating now.
00:40:53Whether he's aware of all this or not,
00:40:55I don't know.
00:40:56I think probably not.
00:40:58And then what Trump and Whitcoff are doing
00:41:00is they're talking to the Russians,
00:41:03they're exchanging, you know, real information,
00:41:06and they're deciding, well, this makes sense.
00:41:10Meaning, you know, one side's actions are defined
00:41:14by a certain strategy that is pretty much being driven
00:41:18by the British establishment,
00:41:21while the other side is looking at what makes sense.
00:41:24And then there's also the element that
00:41:26United States from the very beginning
00:41:29has not been all that keen on Ukraine war.
00:41:33Even the Biden administration, you know,
00:41:36like when you look at the communications
00:41:38between the British and the Biden administration,
00:41:41you see that the British are always prodding
00:41:43the Biden administration to escalate.
00:41:46You know, the British approved storm shadow missiles
00:41:49for Ukraine already in May 2023.
00:41:54In September 2023, the Biden administration
00:41:58are still having discussions
00:42:00whether they will approve the attackants or not.
00:42:03You know, because there's a risk of escalation.
00:42:07And then, you know, you see the British
00:42:08who are responding and saying this, you know,
00:42:12the Biden's fear of escalating this conflict
00:42:15is very unwise.
00:42:18It's very silly and naive.
00:42:20And we need to counter their hesitancy
00:42:25very firmly and at once.
00:42:27This was Chris Donnelly,
00:42:28who was one of the founders of this strategy
00:42:33of Ukraine war and training up
00:42:36commando units in Ukraine and so on.
00:42:41Chris Donnelly was a British,
00:42:45or is British intelligence asset
00:42:48who has been very, very active
00:42:50in conducting war in Ukraine.
00:42:53And he's been one of the people
00:42:55who has been behind the initiative
00:42:58to launch the Kursk incursion.
00:43:02And the Kursk incursion has been
00:43:04a completely British strategy,
00:43:08British initiative.
00:43:09The United States,
00:43:11even under Biden administration,
00:43:13have been kept completely out of the loop.
00:43:15They didn't even know this was going to happen.
00:43:17And they have been very, very unhappy about this.
00:43:19But the British took the initiative.
00:43:22And so I think that, again,
00:43:25this is a conflict not so much
00:43:27between how to solve the Ukraine conflict,
00:43:34but it's a conflict between
00:43:36who will define the future order of the world.
00:43:41And Ukraine is extremely important in this respect
00:43:44because Ukraine is the key puzzle piece
00:43:49to define who rules Central and Eastern Europe
00:43:53and, by extension,
00:43:55who has hegemony over the Eurasian landmass.
00:43:58And so what you have is
00:44:00the British versus everybody else.
00:44:03Biden administration was following along.
00:44:06They were kind of,
00:44:09how do you call it,
00:44:11useful idiots for the British approach.
00:44:14Trump is taking a different turn.
00:44:17So, you know,
00:44:17all this noise about
00:44:19what Trump says about Putin,
00:44:22which, you know,
00:44:23which sanctions they're threatening today
00:44:27versus tomorrow versus,
00:44:28you know, whatever.
00:44:30I think this is noise.
00:44:31I think this is less relevant.
00:44:35I think the important,
00:44:37the really important part
00:44:38is that Trump
00:44:39has definitely changed course
00:44:43away from the British agenda.
00:44:48Alex,
00:44:49that makes sense to me
00:44:51because
00:44:52even with the recent visit
00:44:54of Zelensky to Istanbul
00:44:58in the recent talks
00:44:59between the two,
00:45:01British sent a very important person,
00:45:03I don't remember his name,
00:45:04the British going,
00:45:05send them to
00:45:06to take care of Zelensky.
00:45:10They don't even believe
00:45:11that Zelensky,
00:45:12they want to somehow
00:45:14control Zelensky
00:45:15even in Istanbul.
00:45:17And
00:45:17it's,
00:45:20you look at the
00:45:21two major problems
00:45:24with the U.S. foreign policy
00:45:26right now,
00:45:26one in Ukraine,
00:45:27the other one
00:45:28in the Middle East.
00:45:30Both,
00:45:30the only country
00:45:31that can connect
00:45:33these dots
00:45:34is
00:45:35the United Kingdom.
00:45:37Yes.
00:45:37And
00:45:38somehow it comes out
00:45:39without
00:45:40their
00:45:41somehow
00:45:41talking about,
00:45:43directly talking about it.
00:45:45Here is
00:45:45the conservative leader
00:45:47Kemi Beydanok
00:45:48on Sky News
00:45:49arguing
00:45:50that the war
00:45:51in the Middle East
00:45:53and in Ukraine
00:45:54are
00:45:55proxy wars
00:45:56on the part
00:45:56of the United Kingdom.
00:45:58Here is what she said.
00:45:59The Prime Minister,
00:46:02does that mean
00:46:04that you
00:46:04A,
00:46:05support
00:46:05the current
00:46:06Israeli action
00:46:07and that actually
00:46:08you
00:46:09think that
00:46:11Mr. Netanyahu's
00:46:13language
00:46:13on this
00:46:14is justified?
00:46:16I'm not here
00:46:16to police
00:46:17the language
00:46:18of the Prime Minister
00:46:19of Israel.
00:46:19I'm not asking you
00:46:19to police it,
00:46:20I'm asking...
00:46:20What he has said,
00:46:21he sees this...
00:46:21People need to know
00:46:22where you stand on this.
00:46:23But I've been very clear
00:46:24where I stand.
00:46:25Hamas is a terrorist group.
00:46:26They are not our friends.
00:46:27No, no, no.
00:46:28I'm talking about...
00:46:29What do you think
00:46:29about the Israelis'
00:46:30actions and language?
00:46:32Who funds Hamas?
00:46:33Iran.
00:46:34An enemy of this country.
00:46:35I'm asking about this.
00:46:35An enemy of this country.
00:46:37Israel is fighting
00:46:38a proxy war
00:46:38on behalf of the UK
00:46:39just like Ukraine is
00:46:41on behalf of the West,
00:46:42of Western Europe
00:46:43against Russia.
00:46:44We have to get serious.
00:46:45We have to get serious.
00:46:46There was a terrorist plot
00:46:48in London
00:46:48against the Israeli embassy
00:46:51to say on this issue
00:46:52is that if Hamas...
00:46:54Yeah.
00:46:56Literally she says
00:46:57that these two
00:46:58are proxy wars
00:46:59on the part of us.
00:47:02I would wonder
00:47:05if is there anybody
00:47:07in the US government
00:47:08right now?
00:47:08We know that...
00:47:10You look at David Lammy,
00:47:11the way he was talking
00:47:12about Donald Trump
00:47:13before coming to power
00:47:14and the way that
00:47:15they're somehow
00:47:16changing the rhetoric
00:47:18to get closer
00:47:19to Donald Trump
00:47:19because they know
00:47:20the importance
00:47:21of Donald Trump
00:47:22right now.
00:47:22but the agenda
00:47:24is the same.
00:47:28It's unbelievable
00:47:29if we cannot...
00:47:32People,
00:47:33you cannot say
00:47:34that I'm blind,
00:47:34I cannot hear
00:47:35what she's talking about.
00:47:36It doesn't matter
00:47:37who she is
00:47:38but she's representing
00:47:40the core policy
00:47:41of the United Kingdom.
00:47:43Yes.
00:47:44Yeah,
00:47:44and I think
00:47:45that what she said there,
00:47:47I'm not sure
00:47:48if she was meant
00:47:49to say it
00:47:49but she's revealing
00:47:52the mindset
00:47:53in the ruling
00:47:54establishment
00:47:55and I think
00:47:57that what she said
00:47:58is largely true
00:48:00that Israel
00:48:01and Ukraine
00:48:02both are fighting
00:48:05proxy wars
00:48:06on behalf
00:48:07of the UK.
00:48:08You know,
00:48:09the United Kingdom
00:48:10over the last,
00:48:11I don't know
00:48:11how many years exactly
00:48:12but it's going to be
00:48:13at least 10,
00:48:1415 years
00:48:15have taken
00:48:16a sharp turn
00:48:19back towards
00:48:21asserting themselves
00:48:23as a colonial
00:48:24imperial power.
00:48:26You know,
00:48:27a few years ago,
00:48:28I think in 21
00:48:29or 22,
00:48:31they established
00:48:32three new
00:48:34military hubs,
00:48:37one in Germany,
00:48:42one in Oman
00:48:44and one in Kenya
00:48:45because,
00:48:47you know,
00:48:47they want,
00:48:49the one in Germany,
00:48:50it was to be close
00:48:52to Eastern Europe
00:48:53in case
00:48:54of a hot war
00:48:55that they can
00:48:56move troops
00:48:58to Ukraine
00:49:00and then
00:49:01other,
00:49:02you know,
00:49:03I think another
00:49:04brigade-sized force
00:49:05was deployed
00:49:06to Poland
00:49:06under the guise
00:49:08of like,
00:49:09oh,
00:49:09we're going to help
00:49:09the Polish
00:49:10firm up
00:49:11the border fence
00:49:13between Poland
00:49:13and Belarus
00:49:15because poor Poles,
00:49:17they don't know
00:49:17how to fix
00:49:17their fences,
00:49:18you know,
00:49:18it's a very
00:49:19complicated matter
00:49:20that requires
00:49:21British brains
00:49:22to work on that.
00:49:24But then,
00:49:24you know,
00:49:24like at the same
00:49:25time,
00:49:26they set up
00:49:27military hubs
00:49:28in Kenya
00:49:29and in Oman
00:49:30because they want
00:49:33to lay the ground
00:49:35for hegemony
00:49:37over the Middle East
00:49:38to defend it
00:49:40and to maintain it
00:49:41and Africa
00:49:43because they,
00:49:45you know,
00:49:45like their former
00:49:45colonies,
00:49:46they are still
00:49:47very active there
00:49:48and they have,
00:49:49they are,
00:49:50you know,
00:49:51they're again
00:49:52developing this
00:49:53colonial system
00:49:54of exploitation,
00:49:56you know,
00:49:57mining for,
00:49:59you know,
00:49:59whatever,
00:49:59oil, gas,
00:50:00lithium,
00:50:01gold,
00:50:01silver,
00:50:02whatever they can
00:50:03find there
00:50:03in order to bring
00:50:05those regions'
00:50:07natural resources
00:50:08into their own
00:50:09banking system
00:50:10as collateral
00:50:11so that,
00:50:11you know,
00:50:12they can issue
00:50:12loans on the
00:50:13back of that
00:50:14and then,
00:50:15you know,
00:50:15those loans
00:50:16are assets
00:50:17on their bank's
00:50:18balance sheets.
00:50:20This is why
00:50:20I always say
00:50:21that it's the
00:50:21banking cartels
00:50:23that's driving
00:50:23the war,
00:50:24not necessarily
00:50:25the corporations
00:50:25who go there
00:50:26to do the work.
00:50:29And so,
00:50:30you know,
00:50:30Britain has,
00:50:32by stealth,
00:50:36you know,
00:50:36they're hiding
00:50:37their hand
00:50:38but they
00:50:39have been
00:50:40again
00:50:40trying to
00:50:42revamp
00:50:42their colonial
00:50:43system
00:50:45around the
00:50:45world
00:50:46because that
00:50:48is making
00:50:49them,
00:50:49again,
00:50:49financially
00:50:50powerful.
00:50:51If they can
00:50:52impose their,
00:50:53you know,
00:50:54the city of
00:50:55London as the
00:50:56world's financial
00:50:57center of the
00:50:58world,
00:51:00you know,
00:51:01then they
00:51:01can bring
00:51:04back to life
00:51:05the British
00:51:06Empire.
00:51:08And,
00:51:08you know,
00:51:09part of that
00:51:09agenda
00:51:10involved taking
00:51:11down Russia.
00:51:12And they're
00:51:13very explicit
00:51:13in many of
00:51:14their documents,
00:51:15you know,
00:51:15like,
00:51:16for example,
00:51:16in that
00:51:16Operation
00:51:17Unthinkable,
00:51:18they say
00:51:18that our
00:51:19objective
00:51:19is to
00:51:21impose our
00:51:22will on
00:51:22Russia.
00:51:24What does
00:51:25that mean?
00:51:25You know,
00:51:26it doesn't
00:51:26mean like,
00:51:27okay,
00:51:27you do 10
00:51:27push-ups.
00:51:28Not in that.
00:51:30Imposing their
00:51:30will meaning
00:51:31bringing Russia
00:51:33back into
00:51:34their
00:51:35financial
00:51:36network,
00:51:38into their
00:51:38financial
00:51:38matrix so
00:51:39that the
00:51:40Russian
00:51:40resources
00:51:44are exported
00:51:45and financialized
00:51:47through London
00:51:48banks.
00:51:50And so
00:51:51this puts
00:51:51them on
00:51:52collision
00:51:53course against
00:51:54the whole
00:51:54rest of the
00:51:55world.
00:51:56I think
00:51:56that the
00:51:57gambit
00:51:57might work
00:51:59unless
00:52:00everybody else
00:52:02is unaware.
00:52:02but I
00:52:06think that
00:52:06now
00:52:07Trump
00:52:07sees it,
00:52:09the Russians
00:52:09see it,
00:52:10the Chinese
00:52:10have seen
00:52:11it a long
00:52:12time ago,
00:52:13and it's
00:52:14failing at
00:52:15the moment.
00:52:16But it's
00:52:17true that
00:52:18they are
00:52:18behind
00:52:19most of
00:52:20these wars
00:52:22around
00:52:23the Eurasian
00:52:25continent,
00:52:26including the
00:52:28clash between
00:52:29India and
00:52:31Pakistan.
00:52:32Because in
00:52:33one of
00:52:33their documents
00:52:36that I've
00:52:37looked at
00:52:38recently,
00:52:39and the
00:52:39document dates
00:52:40back to
00:52:401947 or
00:52:43something like
00:52:43this,
00:52:44some national
00:52:45security doctrine
00:52:46document,
00:52:47they say that
00:52:48we'll achieve
00:52:50these goals by
00:52:50fomenting wars
00:52:51here and there,
00:52:52and if possible
00:52:53in India.
00:52:55I think
00:52:56that the
00:52:57partition of
00:52:57India wasn't
00:52:58in effect
00:53:00yet.
00:53:01But you
00:53:02know,
00:53:03Kashmir as
00:53:04a,
00:53:04how do you
00:53:07call it,
00:53:08as a crisis
00:53:08flashpoint,
00:53:10was already
00:53:11identified.
00:53:11So the
00:53:12northwest of
00:53:13India was
00:53:14designated as
00:53:16one of the
00:53:16crisis
00:53:18flashpoints.
00:53:19And lo and
00:53:20behold,
00:53:20when they need
00:53:21a war to
00:53:22derail the
00:53:22Belt and
00:53:24Road Initiative,
00:53:26here you have
00:53:26some terror
00:53:27group from
00:53:28Pakistan kill
00:53:29a whole bunch
00:53:30of innocent
00:53:30people for
00:53:31no good
00:53:31reason at
00:53:32all.
00:53:32What's that
00:53:33all about?
00:53:33And where
00:53:34is it coming
00:53:34from?
00:53:35Is it the
00:53:35Pakistanis
00:53:36with nothing
00:53:36better to
00:53:37do?
00:53:38Or did
00:53:38somebody put
00:53:39them,
00:53:40you know,
00:53:40say like,
00:53:41hey,
00:53:41we're going
00:53:43to pay you
00:53:43some money
00:53:43and we're
00:53:45going to,
00:53:46you know,
00:53:46they always
00:53:46promise stuff.
00:53:47They promise
00:53:48them you're
00:53:48going to be
00:53:49able to
00:53:50control this
00:53:50region,
00:53:51you know.
00:53:52You're going
00:53:53to be in
00:53:53charge here.
00:53:54We're going
00:53:54to make
00:53:54you,
00:53:55you know,
00:53:55powerful and
00:53:56wealthy.
00:53:58Just go and
00:53:59kill a bunch
00:53:59of people.
00:54:00And then
00:54:00somebody does.
00:54:01And,
00:54:02you know,
00:54:02when you look
00:54:03at the history
00:54:04of mass
00:54:04casualty events,
00:54:07you always find
00:54:07the same actors
00:54:08somewhere in
00:54:09the shadows.
00:54:11it's so
00:54:14much important
00:54:15because for,
00:54:16I don't know
00:54:17if we for
00:54:19two weeks,
00:54:20more than
00:54:20two weeks
00:54:21with all of
00:54:22our guests
00:54:22on this
00:54:23podcast,
00:54:23we were
00:54:23talking about
00:54:24who's running
00:54:25the show in
00:54:25the Middle
00:54:26East.
00:54:27Some of
00:54:27them were
00:54:28blaming the
00:54:30United States,
00:54:30some of
00:54:31them Israel.
00:54:32But what if
00:54:33the British
00:54:34government is
00:54:35just running
00:54:36the show and
00:54:37nobody's talking
00:54:38about them,
00:54:39the British
00:54:39intelligence is
00:54:40running the show
00:54:41as nobody's
00:54:42talking about
00:54:43them.
00:54:43Yes.
00:54:43Look at the
00:54:44history of
00:54:45Israel.
00:54:45Who has the
00:54:47idea of creating
00:54:48Israel in the
00:54:49Middle East?
00:54:50Yeah.
00:54:51Look,
00:54:52the British are
00:54:53talking about
00:54:53them.
00:54:54They are talking
00:54:55about it.
00:54:56But you have to
00:54:57really dig.
00:54:57you really have
00:54:59to go to
00:54:59the National
00:55:00Archives.
00:55:01You have to
00:55:02go to
00:55:02their
00:55:05gov.co.uk
00:55:07website where
00:55:08you'll find a
00:55:09lot of these
00:55:10military cooperation
00:55:12agreements with
00:55:13Bosnia, with
00:55:14Lebanon, with
00:55:15Sweden, with
00:55:16France, with
00:55:17Poland and so
00:55:18forth.
00:55:20You have to
00:55:20read their
00:55:21national security
00:55:24doctrine,
00:55:25documents,
00:55:26declassify.
00:55:29There's a
00:55:30website called
00:55:31declassified.co.uk,
00:55:33I think, or
00:55:34something like
00:55:36this.
00:55:36I think,
00:55:38yeah, it
00:55:41shouldn't be
00:55:41too easy, too
00:55:42difficult to
00:55:43find.
00:55:43And they
00:55:44provide a
00:55:45wealth of
00:55:45information.
00:55:46And it's
00:55:47from official
00:55:48sources.
00:55:49So it's
00:55:50the British
00:55:51government
00:55:52outing the
00:55:53British
00:55:53government.
00:55:54It's just
00:55:54that in the
00:55:54mainstream
00:55:55media, this
00:55:55is never
00:55:56mentioned.
00:55:57You know, if
00:55:58you take
00:55:58example of
00:55:59the Russiagate,
00:56:01they were
00:56:01lambasting
00:56:02Trump over
00:56:03connection to
00:56:03Vladimir Putin,
00:56:04they were
00:56:04saying he was
00:56:05Putin's
00:56:05agent, that
00:56:06Putin put
00:56:07him in
00:56:07power and
00:56:07all this
00:56:08and all
00:56:08that.
00:56:09And
00:56:09practically
00:56:10everybody
00:56:11involved in
00:56:11that was
00:56:12a British
00:56:13intelligence
00:56:14agent.
00:56:14You know,
00:56:16Stefan
00:56:16Halper and
00:56:17what's his
00:56:20name?
00:56:20Chris,
00:56:20the name
00:56:25escapes me
00:56:26now, the
00:56:26most notorious
00:56:27man who
00:56:28produced the
00:56:29Dostoe and
00:56:30handed it to
00:56:31Senator John
00:56:34McCain.
00:56:37Anyway, you
00:56:38know, and
00:56:39then Sir
00:56:41Richard
00:56:42Dierlove and
00:56:43Alexander
00:56:44Downing and
00:56:45Joseph Smith
00:56:46sued six
00:56:50or seven
00:56:50names, all
00:56:51former
00:56:52British
00:56:53Christopher
00:56:53Steele,
00:56:54Christopher
00:56:54Steele,
00:56:56all former
00:56:56British
00:56:57intelligence
00:56:58operatives,
00:56:59and they
00:57:00concocted the
00:57:00whole document
00:57:01and the
00:57:01dossier, and
00:57:02so they're
00:57:05everywhere, but
00:57:05in the media,
00:57:06it was never
00:57:07mentioned.
00:57:09So it was
00:57:10always discussed
00:57:12as some kind
00:57:12of a Russian
00:57:13thing, Russian
00:57:14propaganda
00:57:15thing, and
00:57:17you know, the
00:57:18conservatives
00:57:19blamed Hillary
00:57:20Clinton and
00:57:21Barack Obama
00:57:22and, you
00:57:23know, the
00:57:23whole DNC,
00:57:25but never,
00:57:26never, ever
00:57:27was there
00:57:27mention of
00:57:28British as
00:57:29such.
00:57:30You know,
00:57:30Christopher
00:57:30Steele was
00:57:31there, but
00:57:32you know, here
00:57:34and there you
00:57:34would find a
00:57:35mention that he
00:57:36was a former
00:57:37MIC officer.
00:57:40What does
00:57:41that mean,
00:57:41former MIC?
00:57:42He resigned,
00:57:43he went,
00:57:44you know,
00:57:44into private
00:57:46businesses and
00:57:47nothing to do
00:57:48with the
00:57:48British
00:57:48establishment
00:57:49anymore.
00:57:50Well, we
00:57:50know that he
00:57:51was handled
00:57:51by Sir
00:57:52Richard
00:57:52Deerloff,
00:57:53who was
00:57:53the former
00:57:54head of
00:57:54MI6 and
00:57:56who is
00:57:56still very
00:57:57much deeply
00:57:58involved.
00:57:59Oh, by the
00:57:59way, Sir
00:58:01Richard Deerloff
00:58:02was involved
00:58:03in selecting
00:58:04Vladimir Putin
00:58:05to come to
00:58:05power.
00:58:06Okay?
00:58:08So he's on
00:58:09record for
00:58:10saying like,
00:58:11yeah, we had a
00:58:11hand in that
00:58:12and we
00:58:12deeply regret
00:58:13that.
00:58:14So, you
00:58:15know, it
00:58:16tells you
00:58:16stuff.
00:58:17They made a
00:58:17mistake there.
00:58:19But they're
00:58:20everywhere.
00:58:21Wherever you
00:58:22find the
00:58:22mess, they're
00:58:23there.
00:58:23And then if
00:58:24you read
00:58:24their, you
00:58:25know, doctrines
00:58:25and documents
00:58:26and declassified
00:58:27stuff, you see
00:58:29that things are
00:58:29happening pretty
00:58:31much in line
00:58:32with the way
00:58:32they planned
00:58:33them.
00:58:34And that's
00:58:34not to say,
00:58:36that's not to
00:58:37let the United
00:58:38States, the
00:58:40CIA and the
00:58:41FBI and the
00:58:42NSA and all
00:58:42of these, you
00:58:43know, agencies
00:58:45off the hook,
00:58:46of course, they
00:58:47were involved.
00:58:49And Mossad and
00:58:51German intelligence
00:58:51and Swedish
00:58:52intelligence and
00:58:53the French and,
00:58:54you know, they're
00:58:56all involved.
00:58:57But, you
00:58:57know, they've
00:58:58all been co-opted.
00:59:00There's, you
00:59:01know, the head
00:59:03of the
00:59:03monster, the
00:59:04thing that
00:59:08binds them
00:59:08all together
00:59:09is the
00:59:14city of
00:59:15London.
00:59:17Yeah.
00:59:19I, that's
00:59:22bombastic.
00:59:24I know, I
00:59:24know, but, you
00:59:25know, I promise
00:59:26you this.
00:59:27Once you're
00:59:28aware of this,
00:59:30so once you
00:59:30start paying
00:59:31attention, you
00:59:33start seeing
00:59:33it again and
00:59:34again and
00:59:35again and
00:59:36again and
00:59:37it becomes
00:59:37almost
00:59:38predictable.
00:59:43Thank you so
00:59:44much, Alex.
00:59:45My pleasure.
00:59:46Always good to
00:59:47join you and
00:59:48until the next
00:59:50time.
00:59:50Yeah, see you
00:59:51soon.
00:59:51Take care.
00:59:52Bye-bye.
00:59:52Bye.