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00:00Welcome to Median TV and Zoom in this chroniculture
00:12on the Swiss group Zenaida who participates for the first time
00:17to the 28th edition of the festival of the sacred music world of FES.
00:21And for us to talk about it, I have the pleasure of having
00:24one of the members of this young group, Raphael Johan.
00:29Thank you very much for having accepted our invitation.
00:32Maybe a little word on your group who is young,
00:35who is founded, and who participates in this edition here at FES.
00:41What is your sentiment?
00:43It's a great pleasure.
00:45We met in our studies in Master,
00:50it's been a year and a half.
00:53We chant together quite regularly.
00:56We are very used to chant together.
00:58And we have the chance to come here.
01:01So it's thanks to our school, the Scola Cantorum Basiliensis,
01:04in Suisse,
01:07which allows us, via the Swiss ambassador, to come here.
01:11Just like I said,
01:13your group,
01:14as I said,
01:15these young musicians,
01:16these young students,
01:17who come a little from everywhere.
01:18Well, there is no more Marocans.
01:19I hope that the next time you come back,
01:21you will be with the Marocans.
01:23But in all cases,
01:24you are a little...
01:26that means that there is a lot of cultures,
01:29a lot of contacts and exchanges between these young people.
01:33What is the goal of this group,
01:35with this multiculturality that exists in your group?
01:40Well,
01:42actually,
01:43we all come from different horizons.
01:45And there is no one in Suisse.
01:47So we are an ensemble Swiss,
01:49but 100 members suisses.
01:51So it allows us to have a large variety of ways to see things.
01:59It is also to do music.
02:02We also have experience and different practices in the music.
02:06So all this brings a lot of richness.
02:09And then I think we are quite well able to communicate together
02:15to make these differences.
02:18This is a richness that really makes the group advance
02:22and gives a little bit special color to the music that we make.
02:27Zenaida,
02:28I said,
02:29it is a multi-cultural group with young musicians.
02:32But what music do you play?
02:34And what music do you play here at Fès?
02:38I remember that it is a sacred music music.
02:41So tell us a little bit of the genre of music that you play in your group.
02:45Well,
02:46we do the Renaissance music music,
02:50so mainly from the XVe siècle.
02:52We are a little bit after.
02:54But mainly in the XVe siècle,
02:56a cappella,
02:57we are all singers.
02:59It is franco-flamand,
03:01so we have a very famous composers in the middle.
03:06Josquin Desprez,
03:08Pierre Delarue,
03:09Jean Mouton,
03:11who are the stars of this time.
03:18And so,
03:21in a music that we do on facsimile,
03:24so that we have reproductions of the manuscript of the time,
03:28and the impressions.
03:31The idea is to have the first edition,
03:34and so we do the music on this material,
03:38in the idea of having an approach the most close possible
03:43of what was done at the time.
03:46We are all on a partition,
03:49we have a large pupitre face to us,
03:51and we form like a tas,
03:54an amas,
03:55on this partition.
03:57And so,
03:58everyone reads their part,
04:00because in fact,
04:01the partition is made of such a way
04:04that the parts are separated.
04:06So,
04:08the soprano will be written entirely on the left,
04:12the bass in the right,
04:14and all the voices like that.
04:16So,
04:17we have no repercussions
04:19on what others do,
04:20except what we have retened from the memory,
04:23to repeat.
04:26So,
04:27it gives us a special approach,
04:30and in the same time,
04:32quite unique,
04:33because the fact of being close
04:35we are listening and we feel respirated,
04:39all together,
04:40and it gives,
04:42if we arrive well,
04:43something quite organic,
04:45an organism
04:46who sings all the different parts.
04:50Why have you chosen to complicate the view?
04:52We have the impression that we have to explain it.
04:54It's not easy,
04:55especially,
04:56I imagine that it's a choice,
05:00that it's an artistic choice,
05:02it's still the music of the XVIIe siècle,
05:04you are already a little surprised by the choice of these texts.
05:09Yes,
05:10it's true,
05:11it may seem to be a complicated one,
05:13but in fact,
05:15it's an alphabet to learn,
05:17it's to say that,
05:18once we know,
05:19once we know,
05:20once we know,
05:21once we know,
05:22once we know,
05:23once we know,
05:24once we do it,
05:25and in fact,
05:26the result,
05:27for us,
05:28it's a little different,
05:29and a little different,
05:30because,
05:31we feel really
05:34that we don't do the same music
05:36as if we saw what the others do,
05:38which doesn't mean that it's better or less good.
05:41But,
05:42we try to have an approach
05:44the most close to what was done at the time,
05:47and after,
05:48the people will make an opinion of what they prefer.
05:51In all cases,
05:52the a cappella,
05:53that can't be magnificent,
05:54in all cases,
05:55I love the group a cappella.
05:57Maybe,
05:58one last question,
06:00is that the partitions that you choose,
06:03are these texts religious,
06:05or are these texts profanes,
06:07that you play the same way?
06:09Well,
06:11so,
06:12this program is a religious program,
06:14so,
06:15basically,
06:16all the pieces are
06:19issues of the messe,
06:21and we also have the motet.
06:23There is also a song
06:24which is in irlandais,
06:27but which is,
06:28for the coup,
06:29which is profane,
06:30which has nothing to do with the religious,
06:34but the material of this song,
06:38has been used by a composer
06:41to write a messe.
06:43So,
06:44we find the melody
06:47which is used for the messe.
06:49So,
06:50it's a link,
06:51but it's mainly religious music.
06:53Rafael,
06:54Johan,
06:55thank you very much
06:56for having accepted our invitation.
06:57I remember that you are a member of the group Zenaida,
06:59so,
07:00a Swiss group,
07:01even if all the musicians and the singers are not Swiss,
07:05but in all the cases,
07:06it's a Swiss group,
07:07and you participate,
07:08and so on the 28th edition of the festival
07:11of the music sacred
07:12du monde de Fès.
07:14Thank you,
07:15dear viewers,
07:16for your faithfulness.
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