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00:00Welcome to Median TV and Zoom in this chroniculture

00:12on the Swiss group Zenaida who participates for the first time

00:17to the 28th edition of the festival of the sacred music world of FES.

00:21And for us to talk about it, I have the pleasure of having

00:24one of the members of this young group, Raphael Johan.

00:29Thank you very much for having accepted our invitation.

00:32Maybe a little word on your group who is young,

00:35who is founded, and who participates in this edition here at FES.

00:41What is your sentiment?

00:43It's a great pleasure.

00:45We met in our studies in Master,

00:50it's been a year and a half.

00:53We chant together quite regularly.

00:56We are very used to chant together.

00:58And we have the chance to come here.

01:01So it's thanks to our school, the Scola Cantorum Basiliensis,

01:04in Suisse,

01:07which allows us, via the Swiss ambassador, to come here.

01:11Just like I said,

01:13your group,

01:14as I said,

01:15these young musicians,

01:16these young students,

01:17who come a little from everywhere.

01:18Well, there is no more Marocans.

01:19I hope that the next time you come back,

01:21you will be with the Marocans.

01:23But in all cases,

01:24you are a little...

01:26that means that there is a lot of cultures,

01:29a lot of contacts and exchanges between these young people.

01:33What is the goal of this group,

01:35with this multiculturality that exists in your group?

01:40Well,

01:42actually,

01:43we all come from different horizons.

01:45And there is no one in Suisse.

01:47So we are an ensemble Swiss,

01:49but 100 members suisses.

01:51So it allows us to have a large variety of ways to see things.

01:59It is also to do music.

02:02We also have experience and different practices in the music.

02:06So all this brings a lot of richness.

02:09And then I think we are quite well able to communicate together

02:15to make these differences.

02:18This is a richness that really makes the group advance

02:22and gives a little bit special color to the music that we make.

02:27Zenaida,

02:28I said,

02:29it is a multi-cultural group with young musicians.

02:32But what music do you play?

02:34And what music do you play here at Fès?

02:38I remember that it is a sacred music music.

02:41So tell us a little bit of the genre of music that you play in your group.

02:45Well,

02:46we do the Renaissance music music,

02:50so mainly from the XVe siècle.

02:52We are a little bit after.

02:54But mainly in the XVe siècle,

02:56a cappella,

02:57we are all singers.

02:59It is franco-flamand,

03:01so we have a very famous composers in the middle.

03:06Josquin Desprez,

03:08Pierre Delarue,

03:09Jean Mouton,

03:11who are the stars of this time.

03:18And so,

03:21in a music that we do on facsimile,

03:24so that we have reproductions of the manuscript of the time,

03:28and the impressions.

03:31The idea is to have the first edition,

03:34and so we do the music on this material,

03:38in the idea of having an approach the most close possible

03:43of what was done at the time.

03:46We are all on a partition,

03:49we have a large pupitre face to us,

03:51and we form like a tas,

03:54an amas,

03:55on this partition.

03:57And so,

03:58everyone reads their part,

04:00because in fact,

04:01the partition is made of such a way

04:04that the parts are separated.

04:06So,

04:08the soprano will be written entirely on the left,

04:12the bass in the right,

04:14and all the voices like that.

04:16So,

04:17we have no repercussions

04:19on what others do,

04:20except what we have retened from the memory,

04:23to repeat.

04:26So,

04:27it gives us a special approach,

04:30and in the same time,

04:32quite unique,

04:33because the fact of being close

04:35we are listening and we feel respirated,

04:39all together,

04:40and it gives,

04:42if we arrive well,

04:43something quite organic,

04:45an organism

04:46who sings all the different parts.

04:50Why have you chosen to complicate the view?

04:52We have the impression that we have to explain it.

04:54It's not easy,

04:55especially,

04:56I imagine that it's a choice,

05:00that it's an artistic choice,

05:02it's still the music of the XVIIe siècle,

05:04you are already a little surprised by the choice of these texts.

05:09Yes,

05:10it's true,

05:11it may seem to be a complicated one,

05:13but in fact,

05:15it's an alphabet to learn,

05:17it's to say that,

05:18once we know,

05:19once we know,

05:20once we know,

05:21once we know,

05:22once we know,

05:23once we know,

05:24once we do it,

05:25and in fact,

05:26the result,

05:27for us,

05:28it's a little different,

05:29and a little different,

05:30because,

05:31we feel really

05:34that we don't do the same music

05:36as if we saw what the others do,

05:38which doesn't mean that it's better or less good.

05:41But,

05:42we try to have an approach

05:44the most close to what was done at the time,

05:47and after,

05:48the people will make an opinion of what they prefer.

05:51In all cases,

05:52the a cappella,

05:53that can't be magnificent,

05:54in all cases,

05:55I love the group a cappella.

05:57Maybe,

05:58one last question,

06:00is that the partitions that you choose,

06:03are these texts religious,

06:05or are these texts profanes,

06:07that you play the same way?

06:09Well,

06:11so,

06:12this program is a religious program,

06:14so,

06:15basically,

06:16all the pieces are

06:19issues of the messe,

06:21and we also have the motet.

06:23There is also a song

06:24which is in irlandais,

06:27but which is,

06:28for the coup,

06:29which is profane,

06:30which has nothing to do with the religious,

06:34but the material of this song,

06:38has been used by a composer

06:41to write a messe.

06:43So,

06:44we find the melody

06:47which is used for the messe.

06:49So,

06:50it's a link,

06:51but it's mainly religious music.

06:53Rafael,

06:54Johan,

06:55thank you very much

06:56for having accepted our invitation.

06:57I remember that you are a member of the group Zenaida,

06:59so,

07:00a Swiss group,

07:01even if all the musicians and the singers are not Swiss,

07:05but in all the cases,

07:06it's a Swiss group,

07:07and you participate,

07:08and so on the 28th edition of the festival

07:11of the music sacred

07:12du monde de Fès.

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07:16for your faithfulness.

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