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Host:
- Muhammad Malick
Guests:
- Mazhar Abbas (Senior Analyst)
- Nusrat Javed (Senior Analyst)
- Muneeb Farooq (Analyst)
PAK-INDIA Conflict: Ab Modi Kya Ghalti Karnay Jarahay Hai? - Mohammad Malick's Reveal Insiders
"PTI Ju Hard Line Lenay Jarahi Hai Wo...", Nusrat Javed's Big Statement
Kya PTI Mein Is Waqt Tehreek Chalanay Ki Salahiyat Hai? - Mazhar Abbas's Reaction
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- Mazhar Abbas (Senior Analyst)
- Nusrat Javed (Senior Analyst)
- Muneeb Farooq (Analyst)
PAK-INDIA Conflict: Ab Modi Kya Ghalti Karnay Jarahay Hai? - Mohammad Malick's Reveal Insiders
"PTI Ju Hard Line Lenay Jarahi Hai Wo...", Nusrat Javed's Big Statement
Kya PTI Mein Is Waqt Tehreek Chalanay Ki Salahiyat Hai? - Mazhar Abbas's Reaction
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:14Today's big news on television is that Field Marshal was given his command in the presidency
00:22today.
00:23It was a very dignified speech.
00:24But I think the bigger news and very sad news is that yesterday our children were injured
00:29in the incident of Khuzdar.
00:30Another child died in that incident.
00:31And now this number has become four.
00:32And now, God forbid, the number may increase even more.
00:33Because on this, Hamza Shafqar, who was the commissioner there, put up a very heart-touching
00:34post.
00:35He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children have been lost.
00:36One daughter was martyred on the spot.
00:37The second was also very serious in the hospital and a son was in critical condition.
00:38He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
00:39One daughter was martyred on the spot.
00:40The second was also very serious in the hospital and a son was in critical condition.
00:41He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
00:42He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
00:43He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
00:50He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
00:55He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
00:58He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:01He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:04He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:07He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:10He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:12He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:13He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:14He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:15He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:16He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:17He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:18He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:19He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:20He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:21He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:22He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:23He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:24He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:25He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:26He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:27He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:28He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:29He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:30He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:31He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:33He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:34He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:35He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:36He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:37He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:38He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:39He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:40He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:41He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:42He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:44He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:45He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:46He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:47He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:48He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:49He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:50He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:51He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:52He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:53He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:55He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:56He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:57He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:58He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
01:59He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
02:00He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
02:01He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
02:02He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
02:03He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
02:04He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
02:05And as he said I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
02:20He said, I went to the hospital and I met a father whose three children were lost.
02:33India will not get the water it deserves.
02:36Playing with the blood of the Indians will cost Pakistan dearly.
02:41This is India's resolution and no power in the world can stop us from this resolution.
02:50And this lie is not ending here.
02:52His foreign secretary Jai Shankar gave an interview to a Dutch television
02:56and he said that we had made it clear in Pakistan that if you want ceasefire
03:01then your general should talk to our general.
03:04And then he talked to us and then we did not agree to ceasefire.
03:07And we did not do it at the behest of the United States.
03:10In fact, the line said, US is in Washington.
03:14In fact, listen to what a small shot says.
03:18The US was in the United States.
03:20The cessation of firing and military action was something which was negotiated
03:24directly between India and Pakistan.
03:26We made one thing very clear to everybody who spoke to us.
03:29Not just the United States, but to everybody.
03:31Saying, look, if the Pakistanis want to stop firing, they need to tell us.
03:35We need to hear it from them.
03:37Their general has to call up our general and say this.
03:40And that is what happened.
03:41Kashmir is part of India.
03:43No country negotiates a part of its territory.
03:46For us, Kashmir is part of India.
03:49A few days ago, this person said that we had already told Pakistan that we were going to attack.
03:55When Rahul Gandhi himself started abusing us, there was no answer to that.
04:00And if you had attacked us to teach us a lesson, then let us say that you have finished us off.
04:06What is the matter?
04:07I am just saying that what madness is going on there.
04:10And the situation is so serious.
04:12But the politics of our country is full of confusion.
04:16On one hand, we have seen the government and the army.
04:20It seems that they have a lot of clarity about where they are going.
04:23But the biggest opposition is the Jamaat.
04:25In that, we see confusion on everything.
04:28And that is what I want to discuss.
04:30Because in Pakistan, this political situation is of critical importance.
04:34For example, when it came to making the army chief a field marshal,
04:38the PTI chairman Gaur Khan had some hostages.
04:43Then Alima Bibi, who is the wife of Imran Khan, had another hostage.
04:49Then Alimin Ghindapur will have a third hostage.
04:54First listen.
05:19If he had been a field marshal, he would have become a king.
05:21Because if it was the law of the jungle, then a king would have been better off
05:24if he had been called a king.
05:26The statement that Khan gave, that statement is our statement.
05:28The statement that Imran Khan gave, I endorse that statement.
05:31I think that statement is correct.
05:32And I follow that statement.
05:33And I am also a follower of that statement.
05:35I am talking about confusion because the party was repeatedly saying that
05:39we will talk to the establishment.
05:42Then the party leaders started saying that this stance belongs to Alima Bibi.
05:48Today, the tweet that came out, the post that came out,
05:51the whole thing that Alima Bibi did, that is also in the name of Khan today.
05:57So the question arises that if we have to talk to the establishment,
06:00then will someone do it with this statement?
06:03Earlier, nothing was going on.
06:05In fact, this step will go a step further.
06:07Today, Alimin Ghindapur said that if these talks and these things do not happen,
06:11then we will not support the IMF.
06:14Now, there is a history of the IMF.
06:16Do you remember when Mr. Tareen was the Minister of Treasury,
06:19he told Mr. Taimur Jagra, who was the Finance Minister at that time,
06:23that you have to write a letter to the IMF.
06:25All those things were there.
06:26So it seems that there is a confusion now.
06:29And now it has also been announced that the movement has been asked to run again.
06:33Alimin Ghindapur has also been made its in-charge.
06:36Now, let's leave the foreign front today.
06:38We are seeing those things that are happening in front.
06:41What is happening inside Pakistan?
06:43I would like to talk about this first.
06:44Mr. Nusrat Javed has joined me.
06:46Mr. Shah, thank you very much.
06:47Mr. Mazhar Abbas is with us.
06:49If there is any technical difficulty, he is on the telephone right now.
06:52In fact, he has come with us on video.
06:54Amazing.
06:55And Muneeb Rukh has joined us.
06:57Mr. Shah, let's talk first.
06:58India comes to Pakistan too.
07:00Those things are in front.
07:03Let's start with domestic politics.
07:06There is confusion in PTI right now.
07:09There is frustration.
07:10Because people in Egypt repeatedly believe off the record.
07:14I am also aware that there is no offer.
07:16There is no kind of conversation.
07:18So if you have to talk to them,
07:20then this promotion was such a matter that the party could have easily ignored it.
07:26You didn't have to personalize it.
07:27Now it has also been personalized.
07:29So are you understanding, Mr. Khan,
07:32that now all the doors of conversation have been closed.
07:35So if there is a clash now, then just clash.
07:38I think what you have said is right.
07:43As a reporter, I have spoken to at least two people,
07:52whom I can trust,
07:54who were present at that meeting with great attention
07:59and have now observed Mr. Paniyat Ali's body language and attitude.
08:06He was saying that after a long time,
08:10those prisoners of our Adiala jail were not angry,
08:19but were dismayed.
08:22And in that, for example,
08:24they started with the fact that who told Mr. Gauhar to give this statement.
08:31Government negotiator.
08:34And also congratulations.
08:36He said this categorically.
08:38After that, he expressed his discontent,
08:45according to him,
08:47the way his community's communication strategy is being run by Mr. Waqas.
08:52And he even said that if he had to participate in different talk shows
08:57just by staying in Peshawar,
09:03then it would be better to bring Mr. Raoul Hassan back here.
09:09Now, all this indicates,
09:12and linking it to this,
09:16I think it is something that should be removed from the wall.
09:23If my Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's treasurer,
09:29the biggest thing is that the bureaucratic team in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
09:36is preparing the budget.
09:39They are government servants.
09:42How can government servants give guidance to the party?
09:47They can only seek guidance from the chief minister.
09:50But anyway, he has said that this is a very strange condition
09:54which indicates that they are going in this direction.
10:00If this does not happen, then we will go back to the position
10:04which we used with the IMF earlier.
10:07I think that the kind of position they are taking,
10:14this will further incite the opponents in their state.
10:21It will not threaten them.
10:24Because where they are at the moment,
10:27there was one Pakistan which was before 6th May,
10:32and there is one Pakistan which is after 10th May.
10:36And when you come with reference to India and Pakistan,
10:40I can tell you some things which you may get to see next week.
10:47But I am saying again that it is better that the situation at the moment
10:55is not in the interest of Tehreek-e-Insaf
11:00and is not in the personal interest of Imran Khan
11:05that he takes a hawkish position at this time.
11:09How do you see this?
11:11Because what Nusrat said is absolutely right.
11:14Pakistan is very different from before 6th May and after 10th May.
11:18Before 6th May, there was a serious image problem of the institution.
11:22Everything was being seen from the point of view of politics.
11:26And a lot of people thought that now that the war is over,
11:30things will go back to normal.
11:32It will take a week or two and then the political debates will start again.
11:35But what we see in India is that they don't want to let the temperature go down.
11:39The threat of terrorism has started.
11:43We have seen that in Balochistan and Balochistan is the primary target.
11:47I have told you about the Indian Prime Minister's speech today.
11:51So, it seems that this thing is prolonged.
11:55Anti-terrorism and all these things can go anywhere except the main front.
12:00I can understand the hardline of PTI.
12:04It is a very personalised hardline.
12:06Will it encourage the people?
12:11Will it make them more anxious?
12:13Will it create a burden for them to run the movement?
12:16How will they run the movement in these circumstances?
12:19I can understand the strategy.
12:21Is it frustration or is it a strategy?
12:26I think everyone should understand this.
12:29I have been saying this from the first day that the war is not over.
12:33The ceasefire itself reflects that the war is not over yet.
12:38And the kind of mindset that is being found in India right now,
12:41the Narendra Modi mindset,
12:43you should understand that Narendra Modi is the Netanyahu of South Asia.
12:48And Netanyahu who is doing it in Israel,
12:51Narendra Modi is not able to do it here but he wants to do it here.
12:56And he will try to do something like this.
12:59Because the kind of mindset that he has,
13:02a person with that kind of mindset is not rational.
13:06You have seen his speech that you have just heard,
13:09you have heard his clips,
13:11that he does not have in his mind
13:15to talk to Pakistan,
13:17to trade with Pakistan.
13:19He is saying that he will stop the water supply to Pakistan.
13:22He is doing all kinds of things.
13:24So in that sentence of his,
13:26in his entire speech,
13:28did you see any hesitation?
13:30Did you see any reconciliation?
13:32Did you see that he is ready to talk?
13:36Not at all, that is not possible.
13:38Because the narrative of his politics is anti-Pakistan.
13:42So if such a person is ruling in India,
13:46then we have to be alert 24 hours a day.
13:50I am surprised,
13:54that in such a situation,
13:56when the situation is such,
13:58that until the situation gets better,
14:02how will you run the movement?
14:04How will you run the movement?
14:06Your four leaders give four speeches,
14:10four statements.
14:12I think Mr. Imran Khan,
14:14Ms. Aleema Khan and other leaders
14:17should seriously think about this.
14:19Secondly, on behalf of the government,
14:21now the way the restrictions on Twitter have been relaxed,
14:26the way the meetings have started,
14:29I will say this again,
14:31and I am saying this repeatedly,
14:33that you, the people of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
14:36should order the Prime Minister to release those people who are sick.
14:41He should order Dr. Yasmeen Rashid to release them.
14:44He should order Shah Mahmood Qureshi to release them.
14:46He should order Mr. Parvez Elahi to release them.
14:49This age, especially the age in which Parvez Elahi and Shah Mahmood Qureshi are,
14:54and the kind of people they are,
14:56they will not come against you on the streets.
14:59I think we should not only do that to Tehreek-e-Insaf.
15:03The government should also give some relief.
15:05The government should also try to be a shadow of progress in it.
15:10Okay, you cannot talk to them.
15:12You have issues.
15:14You have issues with Tehreek-e-Insaf.
15:16But the challenges that the country is facing right now,
15:19in those challenges,
15:21our internal political strife,
15:23our internal political rivalries,
15:26we will have to end them.
15:29Why are we waiting for a missile?
15:32Why are we waiting for another aircraft?
15:35Why don't we permanently ceasefire for a few months,
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16:34Thank you very much, Mr. Malik.
16:35As a matter of fact,
16:36anyone can be the base of anything.
16:37We cannot discount anything right now.
16:38But you have to look at the overall environment.
16:39If you evaluate the last one month,
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16:41in the last two years,
16:42we have heard a lot of stories
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16:45now the offer has been made,
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19:53now it has happened,
19:54now it has happened,
19:55now it has happened,
19:56now it has happened,
19:57but the problem is that
19:58our establishment
19:59also over the period of time
20:00get really insensible.
20:01So everyday they
20:02give lollipops
20:03to everything
20:04and give it to everyone.
20:05Now now everything
20:06gets done
20:07and they feel
20:08from here something
20:09has started to come out
20:10so theirs is nothing
20:11else actually,
20:12its all illusion.
20:13But I say
20:14its not permanent.
20:15See our
20:16Mr Khan has created
20:17two hard and easy
20:18experiences.
20:19The first one
20:20is getting out of jail.
20:21The other
20:22is returning back
20:23to power politics.
20:24Here first
20:25the problems
20:56He was in absolute power, he was the Prime Minister, he was in power in five provinces,
21:03he was there.
21:04So everyone thought that this is the time for opposition of strength, you should give
21:09the opposition some relief and work.
21:11They didn't.
21:12And then we saw that the whole pot was overturned.
21:15Is this a mistake?
21:16They are not even repeating that they are in absolute power today.
21:20Today, if this government and its allies, the establishment, can still deal from a position
21:27of strength.
21:28From a position of strength.
21:30It is a simple thing that you are talking about this.
21:35Who is talking about the position of strength?
21:40Shahbaz Sharif?
21:41Establishment?
21:42Through the government?
21:43Establishment?
21:44It's an earned glory.
21:45It is an earned glory.
21:46There is no doubt about it.
21:47I am saying the same thing.
21:48Now, the thing is, I am saying that you are disagreeing with it, but you are enjoying
21:49your moment of glory in your speech at this time.
21:50At that time, I am making fun of you publicly.
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34:37Sir, look, it's a very simple thing.
34:399th May was an extraordinary event.
34:42Extraordinary decisions should have been made in those extraordinary events.
34:46The work that you couldn't do in 3 months and 6 months,
34:50you are not able to do it in 2 years.
34:52This means that you are politicizing 9th May.
34:55When you politicize things, then you end its seriousness.
35:00Okay, okay. I have run out of time.
35:02I was going to get my last word from Muneeb also.
35:05Muneeb, my apologies.
35:06Let's take a break.
35:12Welcome back.
35:13My concluding remark is not on PTI's politics but on the incident of Balochistan.
35:17I can share with you that this will be a defining moment.
35:21Just like the incident of APS changed the politics and security paradigm of the country,
35:27this incident is of the same nature.
35:29There are many details about it that I can't share with you.
35:33But this will change a very big dimension.
35:37The political structure in Balochistan and especially the security paradigm
35:41will change a lot.
35:43And this is not an ordinary incident.
35:46And this incident is such that if it goes beyond a certain limit,
35:50then maybe Narendra Modi will have to make calls again
35:56and say, for God's sake, spare our lives.
35:58Pray that this doesn't happen again.
36:01But it is not a small matter.
36:03And this is a very big incident.
36:05And may Allah make us all better.
36:08I take your leave. Allah Hafiz.
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