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'You Should Be Terrified': Josh Harder Presses Sec. McMahon On Gutting Head Start Reading Programs
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5/22/2025
During a House Appropriations Committee hearing on Wednesday, Rep. Josh Harder (D-CA) spoke about cuts to Head Start reading programs.
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Mr. Harder. Thank you so much. And Secretary McMahon, thank you for being here. I want to talk
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about early childhood education. I probably think more about early childhood development than some
00:15
of my colleagues because I'm still living it every day. I have two young daughters, Lillian
00:20
and Karina, ages three and one. Like millions of parents, I know firsthand how critical access to
00:26
early learning is, not just for kids, but for working families and the future of our communities.
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Secretary McMahon, do you believe every child deserves access to a high quality early childhood
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education? I believe that every child deserves access to a high quality, equal access to education.
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Great. And I think we agree. I think every child and every family should be able to enroll their kids
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in high quality, safe preschools. As you know, research shows that children who attend preschool
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are 18% more likely to go to college than those who didn't. We know that early childhood education
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shapes lifelong outcomes. It impacts literacy, graduation rates, employment, even health and
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public safety. These are real facts. But I'm concerned about what's happening with Head Start,
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a program that makes preschool reality for over 800,000 families. I know this technically falls
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under HHS, but as Secretary of Education, I can imagine you'd care deeply about this topic as
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you're responsible for the future of every kid in America. Have you discussed Head Start funding
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with the administration and the budget? And what are your views on what's happening with the current
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freezes and the challenges with the Head Start program?
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I've not had conversations with the Department of HHS. And so, no, they're not part of my budget
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considerations at this point. Do you have a view on whether or not preschool through Head Start is
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important as a grounds for a student's education? I think the earlier we can start education, the better
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it is for every child. I look at mothers who spend time with their children, you know, reading to them
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when other children may not have that benefit. I think those children definitely have an advantage,
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and you'd like to see that. But I don't think that the federal government has the responsibility
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for that. I think that that should be looked at more in state budgets and how states can best set
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up their programs. I hear you. I did a lot of reading with my daughters and continue to do so.
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But did I understand that you do not believe that the federal government should be supporting programs
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like Head Start, and that should be the job of other organizations and states and parents?
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Well, currently, it is the responsibility of a different agency, and I'm sure that they are looking
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at what aspects they are funding as they go through their budget process.
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Well, I think this has real implications on the work that you do. This is a cornerstone of American education,
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and I think that what's happening with Head Start is very concerning. We're seeing these delays,
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these freezes that ultimately hurt kids. We've seen Head Start schools close across the country because
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they only have three days of funding right now. Every Head Start program in the country has three days of funding.
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And I think that is going to have an implication on our kids' ability to read, write, and do math.
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And so I would think, as the Secretary of Education, that you should have a perspective on this and a real goal
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towards committing to the parents of Head Start students in my district across the country to fight
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to make sure that this program is fully funded. Is that something that you believe in, that this program
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should be funded and pushing back on any attempt to cut it?
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I'm going to let the department and the agencies that are responsible for those parts of the budget
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do their job. I think it has an implication for the Department of Education that is real. Let me tell
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you what's at stake. In my district, 1,600 kids rely on Head Start. This is the first type of education
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that any student receives. And I think passing it off on some other department is unacceptable because we know
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that Head Start students are 13 percentage points less likely to commit a crime. They're more likely
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to graduate high school, less likely to experience a teen pregnancy. This is our kids' futures. And our
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entire communities are lifted up because of this program. So I think saying that this part of the
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education system isn't your responsibility doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I think you should
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be terrified at the idea of Head Start being gutted because it's going to have major ramifications on our
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students' ability to have the future that we want. It's your duty to make sure that programs like this
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continue. And so I hope that you see that our kids aren't line items. They're not pawns in a political
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game. They're not disposable. And that we need to make sure that Head Start is continuing to be strong
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and that cuts like the ones we've seen over the last couple months don't happen if we're going to be
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able to make sure that every quid has quality education in the United States. I hope you remember that.
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And I yield back.
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