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The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 6

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00:00Responding to me. So I'm just gonna head over there. Yeah, I'm just gonna knock on the door. Okay
00:07Macy's invited all of the girls to go support her for this pickleball tournament that she's hosting in Scottsdale, Arizona
00:13Jen and I were gonna ride to the airport together and this morning. She's completely MIA
00:20Technically, I'm not back in mom talk
00:23but I'm so grateful that Macy invited me on this trip because it's gonna give me the chance to
00:29Rekindle and hopefully mend some relationships that really need mending
00:34Jen how are you? Can I come in? Yeah. Okay. Oh gosh
00:47Gosh it looks like fun. There's a party here
00:58What to go no
01:03I'm so confused when we were talking yesterday. You seemed yeah that everything was okay. I think it's just
01:10like prenatal like yeah depression and a combination of just
01:16So many things I can't even figure out. Yeah, I think I first
01:22Started feeling depressed when I realized what need to change in my life and in my marriage
01:28But it wasn't until after I found out I was pregnant that I truly hit rock-bottom
01:35Just some things happened yesterday
01:38Wow, what happened? I don't even know
01:42Oh
01:43Jen oh
01:45my god
01:52I don't want to talk about this. You don't have to
02:03Back and I were driving in the car
02:10And I I don't know what got into me but I just
02:17Had a thought
02:22That I don't want to be here anymore
02:30Myself
02:33The body so I can be able to take care of this baby and take care of my kids
02:39And you're exactly right. I never thought I would get to this point
02:43And
02:49I don't want anyone to think of me any different. I
02:55Feel bad that you're going on the trip and then
03:00For that I can't be there. Don't feel bad. Don't feel bad. You take care of yourself first. That's the priority always
03:07No matter what so when somebody asks me like hey, why is Jen not here? Yeah
03:13What do you want me to say
03:18Yeah, I would just tell them that I'm pregnant and sick, okay
03:22Because that's not lying. That is
03:25Part of what's going on. Yeah, so
03:28I'm worried that you're fine. You're fine. I don't know how comfortable I feel leaving without Zach being here
03:35Let me clean up some of this food
03:37I'm sad
03:38Jen's not gonna be able to come to Scottsdale with all of us because it's gonna feel like a part of mom
03:42Talk is missing, but I think she's making the right decision to focus and prioritize her mental health
03:48I don't really know what I can do. But what I'm gonna try and do is just cheer her up. Oh
03:55My gosh, stop
04:07My god, no
04:12He sings
04:22I'm the one you've been dreaming. No, I've got everything
04:29Try me see I'll bring it to your knees baby
04:42I
05:06Think it is to travel like this and simply take it off
05:13Oh
05:30Mom talks girls trips. I mean it could go one or two ways. Sometimes it's connecting. Sometimes it's disconnecting
05:37But I'm really hoping me going on this trip will be a huge turning point with me
05:41And the relationship as a whole and mom talk
05:45Everyone has to take one go cuz it's actually really fun
06:07Hey, where's Jen what's happening what's going on?
06:11Oh, yeah, no, she's really sick Jen not wanting to come to Scottsdale. I
06:16Genuinely believe she's scared to face me and Jesse specifically. I think she's just being a coward
06:27No, my favorite was when you were like in the airport for like five seconds you're like, hi, babe, I miss you
06:34No, we didn't I had to go a whole car ride without
06:37Okay, see but here's the thing we're together a lot throughout the day
06:40But he we also have our different routines like he'll go to the gym for a couple hours
06:44He goes and works and stuff but like we're always in contact like we never run out of things to talk about
06:49I did hear that bread did sleep with someone in
06:53Macy's sinner Sunday confession box, but it's never been confirmed. I think to me maybe she is projecting like this perfect relationships
07:01I've seen it a lot here, especially in Utah
07:03They want everyone to think that they have like this perfect family and whatever
07:07It's over compensation for something and I don't know what but think about it when you had like best friends growing up
07:11Like you guys were like attached at the hip. That's kind of how Brett and I are
07:15I
07:29Got asked to host the USA Pickleball Celebrity Tournament in Arizona, and I'm so excited. I have a lot planned for this trip
07:35I hope there are enough distractions to where the girls can just avoid the usual drama and love one another
07:45Yeah, my ass is asleep
07:52We arrived to the villa and it is absolutely gorgeous
08:00It has a pool and a hot tub and a big open living room
08:03So if we're gonna fight this weekend at least leave a mansion to do it
08:15I
08:21Don't mind sleeping on the bunk bed. No, you're postpartum. I really don't mind it. I don't either. No, I'm gonna sleep on the bunk
08:27But I honestly will sleep wherever you guys where the girls go is my favorite one. Where'd the Saints go?
08:32There's the pickleball queen
08:39This is the party room
08:41It's like it is gonna be not at all. Yes question of the day. Where's Jen? Well, she's not here. Well, yeah
08:51She is pregnant
08:56I'm shocked to hear that Jen's pregnant
08:58I don't think it's the ideal time to have a baby because her and Zach have been struggling
09:02It is making sense that she's been a little off, but it doesn't excuse the behavior and treating your friends badly
09:08No, I was shocked too
09:11It never is punished. She hasn't like they don't protect at all. So I feel like if you're not protecting your planning
09:16What is Zach thinking with like all the chaos that's been happening a band-aid, baby. Yeah, what the babies don't band-aid anything?
09:24I
09:25am so shocked all of us have been pregnant all of us have experienced modes of depression and I'm just feeling like there's no
09:32relatability going on right now just like
09:34Harping on her for not coming on this trip and right now there needs to be more understanding
09:40We go. Yeah
09:44Half of my suitcases shoes, by the way, I feel like I smell like a freaking onion. I don't think you do. I think I do
09:55I
09:56Love coffee. I'm going with this bad boy. Gosh
10:01Wait, this is so yeah, they have a little menu right here serve and sip the classic dirty pop
10:07So which one's that one this one this one this one? Wait, yum. Is it good? Yeah
10:26Very cute. Okay. All right. Who's saying the prayer? Okay prayer guys Whitney. Okay, ready?
10:32Dear Heavenly Father, we're so grateful for this day and to be able to be together as a mom talk family
10:42Please bless this food and bless that we can
10:45Clear the air tonight and just hopefully get even closer than we are now and we say this name Jesus Christ. Amen
10:51You know that ain't gonna happen
10:56Whitney's prayer is hilarious
10:58Another moment of Whitney's delusion. She's not a part of mom talk
11:01But if she wants to ask for some help from the man himself, she can go right ahead
11:08Start here, and I will be right back with more. Enjoy. Well you and I were like
11:15With all of the lies and scrutiny going on within mom talk lately
11:19I think I have just the device to get us back on track. The truth box is back
11:22I think it's the perfect way to get everything out in the open
11:25We all agreed that it was a shit show last time
11:27But they shouldn't be surprised that I'm doing this because I love instigating drama. All right, you guys I have a surprise
11:34another truth box
11:37Jesse brings out the infamous golden box the truth box as if we didn't learn our lesson the first time
11:44I feel like I'm the only one that has a brain anymore
11:47Truly, I mean I honestly thought Jen was gonna be here and I have some things to ask her that I want truths about
11:52But I actually think that with this group like being together. This could be interesting. So think of some ideas for three
12:01Jesse decided it would be a brilliant idea to bring another truth box onto this girl's trip
12:06Hopefully because the one person that I feel like a lot of people wanted to ask questions to Jen isn't here
12:12Maybe it'll go better, but I doubt it. Okay, we should go get our jammies on though
12:17Yeah, because I want to like get comfortable before we
12:25Tell the tables have turned
12:33All right, you guys are you ready God no
12:36I'm really trying to be present during this girl's trip right now, but I just can't get Jen off of my mind
12:42I've just been texting her here and there just checking in to make sure she's okay
12:46All right. Here we go
12:50Your first one, how do you feel horrible?
12:54Don't lie you're excited so excited Jesse is Jordan's dick really tiny like Jen said
13:02Okay, I'm gonna prove this once and for all so
13:08Don't worry all of the girls had heard Jen's depiction of Jordan's small dick
13:13So I gave Jordan a little handy and we got the ruler out took a photo
13:37Do you actually care about the friendships in this room or do you care more about how the public perceives you?
13:43I totally get in the past how it would come across like I don't care and I'm trying to work on that
13:47to make it seem like I
13:49Do because I really don't make it seem like you do or you do
14:00Yes, Demi, did you know that Macy received an anonymous?
14:07Confession that said in quotes I slept with Demi's husband last year while she was away
14:12Holy shit
14:16Okay
14:23Demi did you know that Macy received an anonymous?
14:28Confession that said I slept with Demi's husband last year while she was away
14:35We've been together literally we've been apart I think five days our whole marriage and we are together constantly
14:41If it did happen, it would be like, okay. Sorry you chose that. I think you always find out the truth always comes around
14:47Yeah, it does. Unfortunately, I don't know who wrote on the card that there was a rumor that Brett cheated
14:53My guess is they're trying to stir the pot and my better guess is that it's someone who's unhappy in their own relationship
15:00I'm not biting and there's no need to even discuss this. It's silly and it's not true. Oh
15:06Jesse were you really kissing Marciano at TomTom public? Yes. Just kidding. It was Marciano
15:12He's the one that was in Italy the guy that likes to me in Italy
15:16Oh, we all had a friendship like that's the thing is like we actually all had fun together
15:20I'm asked about a rumor that I kissed Marciano in TomTom
15:24Which is a bar in LA publicly my first reaction was if I'm gonna cheat
15:28I'm not gonna do it publicly since that can easily be found out
15:31So we all went out that night and we got stopped by so many people at TomTom and sir
15:35And people kept coming up to us and things like that and then literally like a couple days later
15:39There were like rumors online that we were making out at TomTom and I was like what?
15:43Damn, maybe they just thought I was to me because there were drama with him and her anyway and people get us mixed up
15:48But no, it did not happen
15:50Also, if I was like dumb enough to do that wouldn't do it in public the first time I heard about not whole situation
15:56I didn't believe it for a second
15:58But I was just kind of messing with Jesse and reached out and was like
16:01Oh, when were you guys gonna tell me about this rendezvous and just kind of joking around knowing that nothing happened
16:06Yeah, I didn't even see it online. Oh, well, that's good. This is how the rumor mill works
16:10It's just silly to me next question. Okay, I got one about me and this is so funny
16:17Jesse
16:18Are you worried to me was willing to take a bigger contract even if it meant you potentially being dropped from the show
16:23We can't run away from this
16:26To me and I did have a falling-out a couple of months ago. It really rocked our friendship
16:31We had a little disagreement about money to me
16:34Basically was willing for Jesse to be off the show if she can kind of get paid more
16:38Jesse comes out and says actually I'm not gonna walk so you can walk to me, but I'm not for me
16:44I just said I in my head
16:45I just don't want money to come between all of us and I know that I was like on another way of thinking
16:49To me gets on a whole nother phone call with mom talked to me
16:52Like yeah, fuck Jesse at this point, like let's push her to the side. She was talking mad shit
16:57But I also know I'm in a situation that's different than everyone. I think if I was a millionaire, I wouldn't care either
17:04Jesse, you know sits on an empire of this hair business and does really well financially
17:10So it felt a little selfish to me
17:12Emotions were high and I understood that like she felt that way and I also don't think and I could be wrong
17:17But it was like her saying
17:19Specifically kicked Jesse off and just give me a higher paycheck, you know, she was like, I'm kidding
17:26To me was willing to let Jesse go off the show for more money
17:31It gave me a bad taste in my mouth given that's her best friend
17:35I do think Jesse is very forgiving to Demi and I can't quite understand
17:41Why Whitney do you still not regret not going to Macy's baby mama launch?
17:49I feel like if I didn't make the mistake, I wouldn't have known how to make things, right?
17:53Did you regret it or do you not that's what it said, but yes or no
17:58I'm saying no because I'm saying if I didn't make the mistake, I wouldn't have known how to make it, right?
18:04But I just feel like I would say I regret it but wish I handled it differently. I get that
18:10Hearing that Whitney still doesn't regret coming to my baby mama event actually has me shocked because I feel like I've done a lot to
18:16Try to get her back into mom talk to bring her on the group
18:19I mean, I didn't have to invite her on this, Arizona trip
18:21But I did because I'm trying to be a good friend. And so feels like she doesn't care about what she did to hurt me
18:27Okay. Oh
18:30Mikayla do you ever see you and Whitney working things out? I do not
18:38Forgiveness may be godly, but I feel like so is sticking up for yourself
18:42Especially when someone has had a million chances feel like I've reached the tipping point of putting up with people shit
18:48I'm trying to protect mom talk and my own piece. I said, I'm fine. We cordial but I don't I mean, that's us working it out
18:55Fair. All right
19:07Okay, you guys I saw a girl on tik-tok
19:09He says she's in the ER about to get a surgery because she said she got jackhammered too hard
19:18Oh
19:20It's also a position what's the position I thought it wasn't it the leg up one
19:28Let me get you on the big end I
19:30Want to have a conversation with Macy because I thought we were good but with how Macy reacted during truth box
19:37Maybe I don't know where we stand
19:42Crispy enough. Yes. Yummy. Yummy flipping it and we're putting her back in
19:48How are you I
19:53Wanted to talk to you about last night the question that was asked I was shocked by your reaction to it
19:59I was like, oh, so she still is holding this grudge against me. It's not a grudge
20:04It's more just like the guard my guard is still up
20:06Like do you see where I'm coming from when I say I wasn't in the mental place. You can still regret something
20:12How can I regret that if I was in that space speaking big?
20:16I regret that I wasn't there for me a regret is like no I intentionally did this so I'm gonna go and hurt this person
20:23No, I don't think that's what regret is
20:25Really? Are we getting into semantics here? Don't act like you don't know what the word regret means
20:29It's literally in the dictionary. Like how is she still not getting it? I don't understand. Nobody wanted me there. No, I
20:36You not the rest of the women. I know but then it was about me
20:40You didn't have to be with that
20:42What do you think would have happened if I went you could shut up said hi to me and left not even talk to any
20:46Of them not said one word like that's what it meant. You're right. And you know what? You're right
20:54When I was literally in the darkest space of my life my son's father just died
20:58I was a maid of honor in two weddings and so
21:05It's hard because um
21:07It's like I always show up my friends even when I'm in the darkest like trenches in my life
21:12And then I almost feels like you want to be right more than like validating how I feel
21:17I'm sorry that comes across that way. I'm not trying to be stubborn every time we have this conversation
21:22I get more confused every single time. Like I don't know what else to do at this point
21:26Do you feel like the way that you've felt about me or not being able to move past?
21:31This is because the way that Michaela talks about me
21:33I've always been someone in the middle and I'm like, I don't no one's gonna tell me who to be friends with
21:39I feel like you're like projecting all the stuff that's happened and it's not just between me and you right now
21:44Okay, so that's why I'm confused. I'm like, are you saying this to me?
21:47Are you saying just in general I think it all stems from the past it all is coming from the past fine
21:52Like whatever, but I'm just saying like I miss what we had. Yeah, and I don't know how to get that back
21:59Yeah
22:00Someone that clearly doesn't want me there in that space. I can't change the past and honestly
22:06I don't want to talk about this any further. So I'm just ready to move forward
22:09Hopefully the girls can see that I'm able to forgive Whitney and move on despite what she did
22:15Then they should hopefully be able to as well. I'm open to friendships and like being friends. I'm not against that. I know
22:22So I just want you to know that
22:25I really just I'm sweaty
22:29It's the natural deodorant it just
22:33Too crispy now, he wants some beef jerky. All we're having is me. Yeah. Oh, there's great
22:45Are you guys good? Yeah, no, I heard you guys chit-chatting a little bit. Yeah, I'm curious how it ended
22:53Fine, that's good. So you guys can talk behind my back in there. I'm not talking about you
22:57I literally sat there and listened to it. We can hear you. I
23:02Just feel like you're intentionally hurting me by doing stuff to me on your shit. You're still justifying your own behavior
23:10Still can't sit here and take accountability and not say well, this is my truth of it
23:15And it was just the place I was in so sorry it sucks
23:18I've taken
23:20Accountability for every fucking thing. Have you every single tell me one thing that I haven't taken accountability
23:26Everyone can go down the table and tell you one thing. Let's fucking do it. I
23:32Want to understand where you're coming from and I think let's get the accountability from every single person because I do want to know
23:39I fucking do want to do it great to me. Just kind of what am I?
23:43Please I want to know so I genuinely can own up to it, please because I know how I fucked up
23:49Does everyone feel comfortable doing that because I really want to know I don't think anyone cares to have an actual friendship with you
23:57I
24:03Think everyone can go down the table and tell you one. Hey, let's fucking do it
24:08I'm laying in bed trying to sleep because I am a single mom of three and sleep is very rare for me
24:13I can hear raised voices in the kitchen and I
24:18Honestly want nothing to do with it. Whatever that is. It can wait and I really just want to go back to bed
24:24Mm-hmm
24:25Going into a conversation and hashing out all of the behavior and the patterns and the things to me is like
24:32Contradictory to where I'm at with like our friendship, so I don't see the point
24:38Okay, but then we're all still saying you need to take accountability
24:40It's like well, I'm trying to but you don't want to have a conversation you owe people that conversation though
24:47We didn't unfollow you. It's like you're you're doing these things. You're leaving the group chat. You're following everyone
24:51You're expecting everyone to come to you and be like, we'll have a conversation with me if you have a problem
24:54That's not true. I'm trying to me. I'm trying to make it
24:56I'm sorry to have a conversation you did you're like, well, no, you could have reached out to me
25:00You could have called me, but I don't want people to call you. What the actual fuck?
25:03No, I'm saying please can I please camera? I watched it. Okay
25:07That's what I'm saying now
25:08I would love to have a conversation with each person which I tried to do at the beginning of this of this season and the
25:13Only the cameras are here only person. Yeah, no fucking shit. We're on reality show. Micaela. What the fuck don't talk down to me
25:19Cuz if you're gonna be disrespectful, you can leave
25:23I'm not holding you accountable for your shit because you can't see it yourself, right?
25:27Okay, I think what Micaela is saying is that we all recognize the behavior. Yeah, you recognize the patterns
25:33There's been multiple times where she'll be like, well, she's told me that she feels really bad about that and we're like, well, that's great
25:39She told you that she feels bad about what she did to Jesse, but like she needs to tell Jesse
25:42Yeah, but then when you sit down a conversation, it's like I don't understand what I feel bad for
25:46Sorry, that was just an example. I'm gonna go grab the cone air and I'm gonna start your hair while we
25:52I have to live at one. Yeah, so I have to get ready
25:54So you do it is just baffling the amount of offenses that this woman has under her belt
26:01But I'm choosing to kind of like recognize the effort and move forward, but I understand why Micaela is not there yet
26:07I think it's gonna come down to self-reflection and healing for you
26:11Honestly, because no matter how many times we sit here and tell you she just wants to hear that you care
26:15She just wants to hear that you regret that it's not sinking in and that's concerning. Mm-hmm. I
26:24Initially was very excited and happy to be invited on this girl's trip, but I'm not gonna lie
26:28These girls are getting so deep and it's becoming apparent that there's a lot of history here a lot of resentment
26:35And I can't help but wonder if this is what women supporting women looks like because it certainly doesn't feel like it
26:41I see both sides. I do. I think they're like I said you to hang out. You'd go hang out with me
26:46Of course Whitney, really? I can see and feel certain relationships and mom talk moving forward
26:53Especially with to me. I appreciate everyone being so willing to have these conversations. Obviously not Micaela
26:59I don't think she'll ever want to accept my apology. And I mean like isn't that what we preach in mom talk?
27:05forgiveness
27:06Well, I just wanted to let you guys know that I did schedule us a club tonight and it's super cute
27:12It's called like cake and it says like let them eat cake and it's like it's a super cute like nightclub
27:16So Macy can come for that. We'll go to dinner and then we'll go that cute. Okay. I love it
27:19I think my thing will go a little bit longer
27:21So I'll be you at the restaurant hang out with you at the pickleball thing. Thanks. I think you can I know you guys
27:26Have like a VIP section that they reserved for you guys
27:30Mommy has to work
27:36You want to put on some deodorant so you're not stinky
27:41Okay, you know where this one goes where does it go goes right there yeah under your armpit
27:48Jen hasn't been doing well
27:50She's been having a hard time getting out of bed
27:53And we just realized we needed to get Jen the help
27:57She needs to honestly get better and get to a more stable place. Okay, should we do your hair now?
28:03Okay
28:07It's been really hard
28:09Just for being pregnant with our next child and having two children trying to show up for them
28:15And I think when you face a really serious mental health
28:20Crisis you kind of take a step back and realize what?
28:23What really matters come hop on my shoulders and we'll go up and see mama
28:27Hold on tight
28:30I
28:38Want to say good morning to mama
28:42How are you feeling I'm feeling awful
28:47Zack is trying to support me in what I need, but it's been a lot. It's been
28:54for sure
28:57But one of the hardest seasons of my life physically and mentally
29:02Whether it's prenatal depression or postpartum. I think a lot of mothers feel like
29:08They don't deserve help but in reality like we need help too
29:14as of right now, I need to take a step back from mom talk and
29:20Solely focus on my mental health and this baby so I can be the best
29:27Version of myself for everyone around me. I'm sorry sweetie
29:49I
30:09See is hosting this celebrity pickleball event and it's so cool to see this full-circle moment for her
30:14She was a BYU tennis athlete and now she's hosting this event that's on TV and she's just in her element
30:21It is an instinctive backstreet boy. What's my
30:30Being a star athlete and now turning that into hosting an event like this is so exciting and inspiring
30:35It just feels good when you see your friends support you that's the part of mom talk that I love is that we can always be
30:41There to support each other regardless of who hates who in the group
30:51I have a reservation under Macy Neely
31:05Ladies welcome to call up. We are so happy to have y'all here. Perfect. So this is a mocktail shot of the mango Amore
31:22About today. Well, I was actually gonna ask how do you think last night?
31:27It was awkward at times
31:30I had a question about last night though with Demi asking you to be out of the show because of the money
31:38Sorry, like I just still don't like what really happened this morning. I thought I was definitely in the hot seat
31:44So now I think the best way to like get the heat off of my relationship with Michaela is to focus on Demi and Jesse's
31:51Drama, give me the details. Tell me all the nitty-gritty. I want to know
31:55It was a call with our lawyer and managers and literally like I got on and I heard Brett and I was like, wait
32:00Wait, I don't want you speaking for me
32:01We had had like a mutual understanding that we were gonna come in like fighting for everything is united front
32:07And then we felt like she dogged us and like went around us and was like, I'm gonna get whatever I want
32:11So we were like, okay. Well, fuck it that we're gonna do the same thing
32:14You deserve to fight for more, but that doesn't mean you deserve to get paid more
32:18I've also been told that you think you deserve the biggest brand deals and I'm curious to why you think you deserve that
32:23I never said that one time. I heard that too. I heard that too. I actually heard that too
32:29It's not a shock that I was a fan favorite
32:32Like I feel like I'm an asset. I should fight for more. Demi wasn't even originally gonna be casted for the show
32:39Do you really think that?
32:41You're the star
32:43You're the star? Nah, I don't agree with that
32:46In what world are you putting yourself on this pedal? So what makes you that person?
32:52Yes, mom talk is a business, but it is a lot more than that. It's a sisterhood. It's a support system
32:58however, I think Demi has like the money side and greed go to her head where
33:02That comes first and then everyone can fend for themselves and that to me is not a genuine friendship at all
33:09and no offense, but
33:11There you do what I've never had this opportunity with like out me
33:14No
33:15I understand and so when I'm hearing these things she deserves the most I'm like I'm the one that was almost in a mental
33:20Hospital because I opened up. I am the most vulnerable
33:31You can defend her when I'm done talking
33:36Okay, so I don't think it's fair when I'm on the floor freaking dying opening up to the world and then I think some people
33:43Aren't as open and aren't as vulnerable and sharing their actual shit
33:47That's going on behind closed doors deserve to be paid more because they're not being vulnerable
33:50They're only being surface space at a dinner table creating drama
33:53I'm the one that's actually struggling because I'm open to the fucking world if anyone has a right to be paid the most it's me
33:59I've never even asked for that ever
34:00Go ahead
34:09Yeah, there's nothing you can say yeah, thanks
34:12And
34:14I wouldn't be willing to kick someone off either where I went wrong was being willing to knock her off
34:20But that came from a place of us being in a bad place
34:24But I think you were willing to knock her off and probably anyone else that not that's not true
34:29So if I felt the exact same you would have been willing to kick her off, but not me
34:33No, absolutely not Demi calling me expendable and basically replaceable really hurt my feelings and hearing that Demi
34:41Also values Taylor over me on the show hurts my feelings as well because yes Taylor got us here
34:46But we all have something to offer in mom talk and it's hard not to feel resentful
34:51I don't know. I mean at the end of the day
34:52It's just I think we're all a team and we've all brought so much to the table. I'm all for sharing the spotlight
34:59I don't I don't care to have it. I
35:02Loved me and I've always seen her as a great friend
35:05However, there is this side to her that worries me just seeing that Demi did that to Jesse who's supposed to be her closest friend
35:13Definitely makes me feel like I can't fully trust her
35:15We'll talk about it more later when we're not screaming
35:18Okay, as the leader of mom target, let's raise a toast to new beginnings open communication
35:35That was so yummy, this is a stick
35:40What about your stuff? Like are you guys still planning on doing the treatments or like figuring it out?
35:45We've kind of just started back at like square one because we don't have answers
35:50Brett and I have been trying to get pregnant for about four years now
35:53I definitely pushed for Brett to go in and get his sperm checked the first time we went to the men's clinic
35:58His sperm was basically dead in May. You were 52 million and then October you're 25 million
36:03I do suspect it's gonna keep going down. I also struggle with endometriosis and we didn't want to jump to surgery
36:09And so there's been a lot of holistic things. We've done. We've both done a lot of energy healing
36:14Go ahead and charge that heart up through our genitals fill up your lungs and let out an audible exhale
36:27And like emotionally draining like it's
36:32Because you can't figure out like what's going on
36:46It's more like how bad mod wants his sibling and
36:54How bad I want that with someone that I'm like in love with and
36:59The first go-around was hell, so there's a lot of me that feels like I needed to heal and move forward I
37:08Do feel like Demi's tears are genuine
37:10I feel like her journey with having a baby has put a lot of strain on her in her relationships
37:15But it is still concerning to see the side of her that she's willing to kick Jesse out of mom talk for more money for herself
37:22Anyway, yeah, so
37:24Sorry about that, I'm saying sorry did I wreck my face you just have two streaks that's fine
37:34Tonight's the last night in Scottsdale, Arizona, so it's time to hit the club
37:41Jesse is drained and Taylor's tired. So Jesse and Taylor gonna go back to the house while the rest of us hit the dance floor
37:55I just want to put all of this drama behind me go to this club and have the time of my life
38:00I love doing stuff like this with the girls that reminds me and hopefully them why we became friends in the first place
38:07I'm ready to shake my little tail feather
38:16Mormons aren't just sitting around reading their Book of Mormons at night. We don't drink but we love today
38:22Let loose no drama the music will be too loud to even talk. So perfect. There won't be any fighting
38:52I
39:13Think ego and jealousy gets in the way of so many good things, especially friendships and with women all online making content together
39:20It's like what happened last year like who's the new leader it has to be Whitney or Taylor
39:24Yeah, do you feel like there's an element of that in our group style? Like who do you think it would be?
39:31Competitive all of us. Yeah. What about to me?
39:34Are you like because you were talking about that at dinner tonight a little bit how like you're good at reading energy
39:40Yeah, I could say yes. I would say there's probably some inside a little bit of tiveness or jealousy
39:46Both
40:09Guys wanna guess who won the twerking contest in the bus
40:13Against you so does anyone want a hot tub?
40:19To me you better be naked in there
40:33Cameras are still on and we're just filming right now. I was just taking off my makeup and about to rent
40:37But I'll call you right back
40:42Okay, good well to me was going skinny-dipping that was the point is she had already decided she was doing it and then I guess
40:49She had sent tech a text to Brett saying hey, like just letting you know gonna go skinny-dipping whatever
40:55But then she got a phone call. And so then she decides not to skinny-dip to me
41:01kind of gives people crap for being controlled by their spouses and partners and
41:07Hers does that?
41:10I'm actually surprised. You don't want to skinny-dip
41:14When do you want to keep your clothes on?
41:18How uncomfortable and like
41:22Inappropriate for me to be stripping down naked on national television knowing that like my stepkids are gonna be seeing this at home
41:31I mean you always are so I'm like, I don't know. I don't know skinny-dipping. I
41:36Don't come back in five minutes and see you and you make you the cow. I'm gonna be mad. I just don't want to do it
41:41I have BV
41:44It's bacterial vaginosis
41:50Smell it you can smell it. You know, I don't have BV. I was lying. I didn't want to go skinny-dipping out. Leave me alone
41:57Oh, yeah, I've skinny-dipped plenty in my day
42:00Not my first rodeo, let's go let's let's do it
42:30I do feel like with all the drama going on in this trip. It's time for a little warming girls gone wild
42:36When I first started mom talk, it was supposed to be about friendship and fun
42:41I do feel like this trip has brought a lot to the surface where I have to question. What are Demi's intentions?
42:48We all need to be aware of her motives and why she's really here
43:00The great Mormon bake-off, I made a pumpkin pie. This is Joseph Smith homemade sourdough
43:07The penises did not bother me
43:12Are you doing I have to like just take care of myself now
43:16The knee is going out of her way to get a cease and desist
43:19To try to keep Jen and other people from talking Jen needs mom talk more than ever
43:24But I just don't really know who to trust with this information
43:28The sinner Sunday confessional about Brett cheating on me is so far-fetched
43:32And I know the truth always comes to light and if something were to happen
43:35I would eventually find out and deal with it. Then I don't understand why something that's not true would bother you

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