The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 1
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00:00I just woke up a monster.
00:06I was bored of the story.
00:08They dig at some backlash from the church.
00:10And reputations in their community.
00:12Radically changing the image of Mormon culture.
00:15Videos continuously going viral.
00:17And it's a double-edged sword.
00:24Let this be a lesson for all of you!
00:27They all have boob jobs.
00:29I think I'm going to be a saint in the center.
00:31If she comes for me, I will absolutely dominate her.
00:34I'm lying.
00:35The truth always comes around.
00:36It does, unfortunately.
00:37You have no idea what's coming for you.
00:39You're keeping receipts.
00:41Who knows when you're going to unlock that vault and just sabotage someone.
00:47This is the real world.
00:49Let's fucking move past this.
00:53We all are traumatized.
00:54But we don't go around hurting the people we love.
00:57Do I do petty shit? Yes.
00:59Gotta go head on in the storm.
01:01You want to call me a shitty wife?
01:03Let's talk about you.
01:04Someone's going to win and someone's going to lose.
01:06And it's going to destroy the group as a whole.
01:07You should literally be in jail.
01:09I will create a whole other fucking mom talk.
01:11Not on my watch, bitch.
01:13What is even happening?
01:28I'm the one you've been dreaming of.
01:31I've got everything you could ever want.
01:35Try me and you'll see.
01:37I'll bring you to your knees.
01:39Baby, you're gonna believe.
01:41It's nothing but temptation.
01:45It's nothing but temptation.
01:49Temptation.
01:57Temptation.
02:05Ready?
02:06Okay.
02:07What has life been like?
02:08What's changed?
02:09What's the same?
02:10Tell us everything.
02:12Uh, well, this will be freeing.
02:14Um...
02:23The sex goddess is here.
02:25Wait.
02:26One boob might be bigger.
02:28Is that better?
02:33What's the hot goss over here?
02:35What's the 411?
02:36What's the 411?
02:37What's everybody been talking about?
02:40We are at the Gracie Lu Cowboy Pillows event
02:42and I'm so excited to be here with all the girls
02:44and just enjoy a fun influencer event.
02:46Western themes.
02:48So dressing up for this event is the perfect way
02:50to kick off one of my favorite holidays,
02:52which is Halloween.
02:53Sometimes there's a misconception,
02:55do Mormons celebrate Halloween?
02:56Yes, we do.
02:57And Mom Talk loves it as well.
02:59Is it a bad bowl or a good bowl?
03:00I have to pee.
03:01Maybe I should pee first.
03:02We've got long bladders.
03:08That's harder than I thought.
03:10Wait, how do I hold on?
03:12Be sexy.
03:13Life has been a blur.
03:19The last few months,
03:20Mom Talk has grown even bigger.
03:22It's become a nationwide trend.
03:24We're seeing women doing their Mom Talk groups
03:26all across the U.S., which is so crazy.
03:29I love what Mom Talk is doing right now,
03:31the way that we are trying to modernize
03:33people in the church.
03:34We've helped move the needle
03:36in the way that Mom Talk intended to
03:38when it comes to the patriarchy.
03:40The brand deals have been way up.
03:43My husband, his entire yearly salary
03:45is how much I make on one brand deal.
03:47So Jace is in his full stay-at-home dad era right now
03:51and he's loving it.
03:52I think the perceptions of Mormons
03:54has definitely changed worldwide.
03:56We're just living our life,
03:57making videos and smashing men's hearts.
04:00Just kidding.
04:02Yes, we did get both good and bad responses.
04:05With the church, we'll say we ruffled our feathers.
04:09I do think the church had an issue
04:11with Mom Talk trying to break the patriarchy,
04:14but YOLO, it's fine.
04:16We weren't bashing the church
04:18or talking about it negatively.
04:19We were just shining a light
04:20on the things that do need to change.
04:22Mom Talk is going to continue to push
04:24the church and the people and the culture
04:26to modernize towards today.
04:29And if anyone tries to shit on Mom Talk,
04:31they will be ready to fight.
04:33It's very on-brand for us.
04:35Woo!
04:37Hey!
04:38Are you kidding me?
04:40Whoa!
04:42My gosh!
04:43There's no sexy way to get off that.
04:45No, it's not going to happen.
04:46But I make it sexy.
04:47It still looks hot.
04:48Wait, is that Whitney?
04:49Yes, it is.
04:50Yeah.
04:51♪♪
04:54♪ Doors closed, eyes open ♪
04:56♪ I see you trying to see me, but you can't see me ♪
04:59♪ Can't nobody do it better than I do ♪
05:02Hi!
05:03Oh, my gosh, this is so cute.
05:05Oh, thank you.
05:08New Whitney, new hair.
05:09That's how it goes.
05:10Hey!
05:11Uh-oh.
05:12Hey, guys.
05:13How are you?
05:14I'm good.
05:15How are you?
05:16Good.
05:17How's the pregnancy?
05:18Oh, God, I'm, like, two weeks.
05:20Please get this out of me.
05:22Whitney, Whitney, Whitney.
05:24Whitney was deemed kind of the villain,
05:26and she earned every bit of that title.
05:29She didn't attend Taylor's baby shower
05:31or Macy's baby mama event.
05:34She has unfollowed us, blocked us, ignored us.
05:38She has upset every single person in the group.
05:41Whitney is no longer a part of Mom Talk,
05:43and rightfully so,
05:44and she's the one that removed herself from the group.
05:46Hallelujah!
05:50Whitney is definitely on the outs.
05:52This is the circle.
05:53She's out here.
05:54So, how does it feel to be pinned as the villain?
05:59Ooh.
06:00Okay, I think everyone's pissed
06:02because I haven't apologized for leaving Mom Talk,
06:05and especially with me saying, like,
06:07good luck without me, like, oopsies.
06:10Do you have any regrets?
06:13No, I think if there was,
06:15then I would probably say it to them.
06:17No one owes Whitney anything
06:18when her behavior is the way that it is.
06:20Exactly.
06:21She's a little bit of a narcissist.
06:22I have no interest in having a friend like that.
06:24Like, I don't want drama.
06:25I don't want bad feelings.
06:26I just don't want to be her friend.
06:27There you go. Get in front. There you go.
06:29Even though I'm not in Mom Talk,
06:31this is my livelihood.
06:32I have to come to these things.
06:33I think everybody has sticks up their butts.
06:36Has the fame already gone to our heads?
06:39Hi.
06:40Yeehaw, baby.
06:41Yeehaw, babes.
06:42Come on in.
06:44You?
06:46Straight up the ass.
06:48I sat on the magazine.
06:50Sat on the magazine.
06:51Anyone have some tobacco?
06:53I got some chew.
06:55I got some spud.
06:56I get really into the role play.
06:58I know you do.
07:00Oh, Lord.
07:01Is that Miranda?
07:02What the hell?
07:04Oh, shit.
07:05What?
07:06It can't be.
07:07Shut up.
07:08Miranda really came?
07:09Holy shit.
07:10Wait, she looks hot.
07:12Ladies.
07:13Hello.
07:16Miranda is Taylor's ex-best friend,
07:19and she's one of the original Mom Talkers
07:21from when Taylor started the group.
07:23Miranda and her ex-husband Chase
07:25were the couple heavily involved
07:27in the swinging with Taylor and her ex-husband.
07:29Taylor started talking about it.
07:30No one was innocent.
07:31Everyone has hooked up with, like,
07:33everyone in the situation.
07:34It came out.
07:35It became public,
07:36and it was explosive on the Internet.
07:38Miranda and her ex-husband panicked.
07:40She left Mom Talk,
07:41and they denied everything,
07:42which made Taylor look worse.
07:43Last I heard, Miranda got divorced,
07:45and she's back in town.
07:46I think it's pretty ballsy of her to show up
07:48to this influencer event.
07:50Hi, Mom Talk.
07:52Did you miss me?
07:54Can I sit with you guys?
07:56My name is Miranda McWhorter,
07:57and you might recognize me
07:59from being one of the Mom Talk OGs.
08:02Just kidding.
08:03Obviously, people know me
08:05from the whole swinging scandal.
08:07Taylor's a very vocal person,
08:08and everybody has heard her side of the scandal,
08:11but I'm finally here to tell mine.
08:13What are you...
08:14What's going on?
08:15Yeah, I know.
08:16The last time I feel like
08:18anything Mom Talk related,
08:19you were like,
08:20I don't know if I'd ever...
08:21I know.
08:22I'm eating my words now.
08:23You're on the show.
08:24What's going on right now?
08:25Wait.
08:26I need to hear everything.
08:27You're divorced.
08:28Like, did you see it coming?
08:29Yeah.
08:30I mean, I think
08:31when I made the decision,
08:32I was sure about it,
08:33and it just was not gonna work
08:35as a relationship.
08:36And I had tried for so long,
08:38and I realized that it was...
08:39You know, I think our kids
08:40would be better off
08:41if we did end up cutting ties
08:43when we did.
08:44So did you initiate it?
08:45I did.
08:46I have a question.
08:47So if you're here,
08:48like, talking to everyone,
08:49are you, like,
08:50trying to join Mom Talk again?
08:51Like, what's the contradiction?
08:52I feel like that's the only explanation.
08:54I don't see another explanation.
08:55Yes.
08:56I think it all comes back
08:57to the fact that
08:58I'm not married anymore.
09:00Like, for our marriage,
09:01I just didn't think
09:02it was the best thing.
09:03You're here,
09:04so we're just gonna go all out.
09:05Was there a part of you
09:06that was trying to protect,
09:07like, the lie
09:08around the swinging thing?
09:09Were you involved
09:10in the swinging?
09:14Well, the thing is,
09:15is, like, the height
09:16of what I was ever involved in
09:17was, like, playing spin the bottle
09:19and, like, kissing other people.
09:21And so it was very jarring for me
09:24for Taylor to come out
09:25and say, like,
09:26everyone was hooking up
09:27with everyone
09:28because that was simply
09:29not the case at all.
09:30We've all heard
09:31the exact opposite.
09:32I'm so confused.
09:33No one had sex ever, period.
09:34I kind of want to hear
09:35from, like, Taylor and you
09:36to hear the story
09:37because we're hearing
09:38two completely different things.
09:40I will go to my grave.
09:41What?
09:43My mind's just been blown.
09:44That's crazy.
09:46It's pretty wild
09:47that after so much time,
09:48Miranda has been
09:49completely silent
09:50about the swinger scandal,
09:52and she's finally coming out
09:54and talking about it
09:55and admitting to things.
09:57But it is a little strange to me
09:58because her story
10:00and Taylor's version of the story
10:02are not completely lining up,
10:03so I'm a little confused
10:05as to who's telling the truth.
10:06You've never touched a wiener.
10:08Never touched a wiener.
10:09Not one time.
10:10A wiener.
10:11Even with your mouth.
10:12Yeah.
10:13Your mouth never came
10:14in contact with one.
10:15Oh, my God.
10:16Really?
10:17So who's telling the truth?
10:18I have zero reason
10:19to believe that Taylor's lying
10:20because she's been nothing
10:21but honest to me
10:23and to the world
10:24about her details
10:25and the swinging
10:26in her personal life,
10:27and this has been something
10:28that has eaten Taylor up for years.
10:30I know how hard it is for Taylor,
10:32and I want to protect her,
10:33and I don't want the lies
10:35from Miranda to create
10:36the cracks in the group.
10:40Oh, speak of the devil.
10:42I'm trying to find my girls.
10:44Oh, my goodness.
10:45Sorry, guys.
10:46I am late.
10:47Is this the new mom talk?
10:48You guys are so good.
10:49You're welcome.
10:50He did it at first.
10:52I do feel very shocked
10:55when I see Miranda.
10:57Pretty uncomfortable, I will say,
10:59because I haven't
11:01really talked to her
11:02since everything, so...
11:05And I don't know why she's here,
11:07I guess.
11:08I'm very confused.
11:09Tay, do you want to go here?
11:10You can go here,
11:11and we'll move all this.
11:12Do you want me to sit right
11:13by Miranda?
11:14She was one of the girls
11:16participating in the swinging scandal.
11:18Her husband was the one
11:19that came and told me
11:20that he had feelings for me.
11:21That's where the story
11:22gets confusing
11:23because I stole
11:24my best friend's husband,
11:25but that's never been the case.
11:26Miranda was my best friend.
11:27I would have never done that
11:28to her ever.
11:29I won't bite you
11:30and I won't kiss you,
11:31I promise.
11:32Not this time.
11:34Oh, wait.
11:35We didn't clarify that,
11:36so you guys kissed.
11:37What?
11:38Like, you're asking
11:39if we have?
11:42How are you feeling?
11:43Horrible.
11:44How are you guys?
11:45I'm sorry.
11:49It's been a lot, guys.
11:50Miranda and I have yet
11:51to conversate
11:52about our whole situation,
11:53but I did not want to hash
11:54any of this out today
11:55because I'm exhausted
11:57of what I'm dealing with
11:58in my own relationship
11:59with Dakota.
12:00So Dakota was involved
12:02with the girl
12:03during our early dating.
12:05He swore that nothing
12:07really had happened
12:08besides kissing,
12:09and then he finally came forward
12:10after all this time
12:11saying that there was more
12:12to that story.
12:13I was lied to for two years.
12:17I have been in pure sadness,
12:20but I feel like the ego
12:21is kind of kicking in
12:22being like,
12:23I'm actually nobody's
12:24fucking second choice,
12:26so if that's what you wanted,
12:27I'm in.
12:28I feel like old Taylor's
12:29coming back.
12:30Do you not see it?
12:31I feel like so betrayed.
12:32I'm in denial
12:33that this is even real
12:34right now,
12:35and I don't know
12:37if I even want to move forward.
12:39People have been doing you
12:40dirty for too long.
12:43Yeah.
12:59How are you feeling
13:00about everything
13:01with you and Zach?
13:02As for my relationship
13:05with Zach,
13:06it's been a few months
13:07of straight hell since Vegas.
13:10You say you're not
13:11going to be married
13:12to someone who doesn't
13:13have values and morals.
13:14He treats you like shit.
13:15That's gross.
13:16I really don't.
13:17I don't really care.
13:19Currently,
13:20we are separated.
13:24I never thought
13:25I would get to this point.
13:27I've decided to
13:29come back to Utah
13:31and be back with mom time.
13:41Today,
13:42Zach asked if he could
13:43come down to Utah
13:44to talk to me.
13:46I was pretty firm
13:47about us being separated
13:49so I can figure out
13:50what I need
13:51and just what's best
13:52for our relationship.
13:53It's hard because
13:56a couple months ago,
13:57Zach and I were committed
13:58to going to New York
14:00for med school.
14:01I honestly think
14:02you're going to love New York.
14:03Do you think I'll be
14:04missing mom talk?
14:06I honestly don't.
14:07But then,
14:08Zach got accepted to Arizona.
14:09We ended up moving to Arizona.
14:11Things for Zach and I
14:12continue to be pretty rocky.
14:14For me to want to
14:16fight for a marriage,
14:17I need to feel like
14:18he's putting my feelings
14:19before his.
14:22Hi.
14:23Hi, baby.
14:24Hi.
14:28Can I come in?
14:29Yeah, sure.
14:30Where do you want me to put this?
14:32You just put it right there.
14:33Yeah.
14:36This place looks nice.
14:37Isn't it cute?
14:38Yeah.
14:39If you don't mind,
14:41I'd like it to be
14:42my new spot, too.
14:45Um...
14:47Um...
14:51The last couple months
14:52have been hard, obviously.
14:53And...
14:54Been really hard.
14:58I know I messed up.
15:00Like, the way I treated you.
15:02Like, no matter what you had done,
15:04those things should have
15:05never been said.
15:06And I have to live with that
15:07the rest of my life.
15:09I want to prove to you
15:11that I love you
15:12and that, like,
15:13I am a good husband,
15:14I am a good father.
15:15I want to fight for our marriage
15:16and that's why I'm here.
15:18After Vegas,
15:19it felt like
15:20the whole world
15:21was against us
15:23and wanted us
15:24to get a divorce.
15:26And I had so many regrets
15:27about how I had acted
15:29and the way things had gone down.
15:31I definitely feel like
15:32there's still
15:34a lot of work to do
15:36as far as changing
15:37and becoming who I want to be.
15:40I'm in therapy.
15:41I'm working on, like,
15:42as long as you want to be here
15:43and you love her,
15:44you let her live her life
15:45the way she wants
15:46or she's never gonna be happy.
15:47So I'm here
15:48letting you live your life
15:49the way you want
15:50so you can be happy.
15:53For so long,
15:54I think he truly believed that,
15:55like, his feelings
15:56were more important.
15:58Within the Mormon church,
15:59it's very expected
16:00for the women
16:01to be submissive
16:02to their husbands.
16:03But for me,
16:04whether this helps me
16:06become a stronger member
16:07of the church
16:08or maybe turn away
16:11from the church,
16:12I think in order
16:13for this marriage to work,
16:14we have to be equals.
16:16I want to fight
16:17for our marriage,
16:18but I feel like
16:20I've been blaming myself
16:21for so many years
16:23thinking that
16:25I was the issue
16:26or I was too sensitive.
16:27I feel like this is, like,
16:28the first time in my life
16:29that I need to put my foot down.
16:30Like, I want my partner
16:33to know me so well
16:36that they'll think of me
16:38and my feelings
16:39before anything else.
16:41And anyone who doesn't
16:42respect that,
16:44I, like,
16:47they're not gonna be
16:48a part of my life.
16:50Even if I were to have
16:52gone to Chippendales,
16:53danced with those men,
16:57I'm still the mother
16:59of your children.
17:00I'm still your wife.
17:03Do you know what I'm saying?
17:05Yeah.
17:06It's time that
17:08I put my foot down.
17:11I'm choosing MomTalk.
17:13Yeah.
17:14And if that means
17:15I want to go to Chippendales,
17:16I can go to Chippendales.
17:17And if you don't like that,
17:18then, like...
17:20I think my actions
17:21speak a lot more than my words.
17:23And, like, I'm...
17:25I'm here.
17:26Like, you know,
17:27I reached out to my dean
17:29and put in my application
17:31to leave medical school.
17:33And my feelings
17:35towards MomTalk
17:36haven't honestly
17:37completely changed.
17:38But I feel like
17:39a lot of our marriage,
17:40I've made it about me
17:41and the things I want to do.
17:42And you've kind of
17:43just supported me in that.
17:45I don't know what
17:46I'm going to do with my life,
17:47to be honest.
17:48Yeah.
17:49But I'm here to support you
17:51and support your career.
17:54You're willing to give me a chance.
17:56Like, that's all I'm asking for,
17:58to show you.
17:59I'm asking if I can...
18:01if I can stay.
18:03Um...
18:05The thing that I'm worried about is,
18:08does a part of you
18:09still feel like you want to go back
18:11to your medical school?
18:13Yeah.
18:14I mean, I do have a year
18:15leave of absence,
18:16so it is possible.
18:17But for now,
18:18I'm just focusing on us.
18:20Like, I need someone right now.
18:23Well, I'm here.
18:25I know,
18:26but you've been a dick to me.
18:28I know.
18:29I know.
18:30I know.
18:31I know.
18:32I know.
18:33You've been a dick to me.
18:36Yeah.
18:37Yeah, I know, sweetie.
18:40I know why you're mad at me,
18:42and not only that,
18:43but your friends,
18:44the MomTalk girls.
18:45To be honest,
18:46it is a little bit hard
18:47to be a part of MomTalk right now
18:50because of all of that.
18:52Do you think you'd want to have
18:54a conversation
18:56with some of the girls?
18:59I mean...
19:01Hearing the things
19:02that they said about me,
19:03a lot of those things
19:04were all, like, blatant lies.
19:05But I reached out
19:06to every single one of the girls.
19:08Do you guys want to hear
19:09the voice memo?
19:10Wait, you have it?
19:11I have it.
19:12Hey, Jessie.
19:13This is Zach.
19:14Just wanted to send you guys
19:15a quick voice message.
19:16Obviously, I, you know,
19:17never plan on those texts
19:18being seen,
19:19but they were,
19:20and regardless,
19:21I shouldn't be...
19:22I never plan on those texts
19:23being seen.
19:24Is he only apologizing
19:25because he got caught?
19:26Anyways, thank you so much.
19:27Hope you guys are doing well.
19:29This is, like,
19:30a compelling case
19:31of what he's doing it to.
19:32Like, it was, like, a script.
19:33It's chat GPT.
19:34No, 100%.
19:36And did they respond?
19:37No, I...
19:38I...
19:39Because, I mean,
19:40I realized what I did was wrong.
19:41Obviously, those texts
19:42were never meant to be shared,
19:43but still, like,
19:44I shouldn't have been
19:45saying those things.
19:49For me to let you
19:50back into my life
19:51and for us to give this
19:53another shot,
19:54I think I'm going to need
19:55a lot of time
19:56to just think about this.
19:59So, I think that we should
20:00keep the Arizona home
20:02until changes are being made.
20:05Leaving med school
20:06isn't enough.
20:09So, with that being said,
20:10if you are going to live here,
20:12what changes
20:13are you going to make?
20:16Obviously,
20:17you can't change overnight.
20:18I think this is going to be
20:19a long journey.
20:21I definitely have
20:22a lot of expectations for him
20:24this time around,
20:26and there's going to be
20:27some boundaries
20:28and guidelines moving forward.
20:30I'm trusting you
20:31that you can
20:34show up for me.
20:36Yeah.
20:37I'm trusting you
20:38that you'll be on my side.
20:42Meaning you won't talk over me,
20:43but meaning you'll hear me out.
20:45Meaning you'll understand
20:46and validate me.
20:47Yeah.
20:48Meaning that
20:49you will generally think of me
20:50and my feelings
20:51before your own feelings,
20:52which I know is going to be
20:53very, very hard
20:54with your personality,
20:56but that's what I need.
20:57That's what I want,
20:58and every woman deserves that.
21:03I do believe
21:04Jen and I were meant
21:05to be together,
21:06and I felt that
21:07since the day I met her,
21:08and I will continue
21:09to fight for that
21:10as long as she
21:11also wants the same.
21:12I think a lot of people
21:13who are raised in the church
21:14are raised in a particular way,
21:16and they don't even really realize
21:17some of these patterns.
21:18I put a lot of pressure
21:19on myself and Jen
21:21to be a certain way.
21:22I'm not currently
21:24going to church,
21:25and I'm hoping moving forward
21:27that we can just be
21:28a little bit more authentic
21:29to ourselves.
21:30Can I have a hug?
21:31You can have a handshake.
21:33I'm just kidding.
21:34Okay.
21:37I love you.
21:39At least we're not going through
21:40what Dakota and Taylor
21:41are going through.
21:46Hi, I'm Taylor.
21:47When I was four years old,
21:48I met my dad for the first time,
21:49and he said,
21:50what's up, kid?
21:51And that was the only thing
21:52I got, and then I brought
21:53the gummy bears.
21:55I thought that you would
21:56get the best of me.
21:58You're wrong.
21:59The truth comes out eventually.
22:02I'm not sleeping
22:03with the enemy.
22:04So I'll forgive
22:06and I'll forget
22:08I'm better than
22:10I've ever been.
22:11Hello.
22:12Hi.
22:13How are you?
22:14Good, how are you?
22:15You look so cute.
22:16Yeah, right.
22:17You do.
22:18We match the same vibe.
22:19We do.
22:20Cozy.
22:21Sweats.
22:22Cozy comfort.
22:24How are you feeling?
22:25Not good.
22:27I'm, like,
22:28obviously freaking out.
22:31Right after Ever was born,
22:33Dakota and I were
22:34living together
22:35and in bliss
22:36with our new baby,
22:37and I was even
22:38considering engagement,
22:39and then I learned
22:41that he was lying
22:42this entire time.
22:43If this is stating
22:44that I've cheated on you
22:45since I've dated you,
22:46not true.
22:47Dakota, he's a liar.
22:49Um, big shocker.
22:51So I talked to Jenna
22:52earlier this year.
22:53Hi, is this Jenna?
22:55I just have some questions
22:56about you and Dakota.
22:58And once I told Taylor
22:59about it,
23:00she wanted to kind of
23:01push back and hold off,
23:02especially until
23:03she had the baby.
23:04Today I am meeting
23:06with Jenna.
23:07I'm ready to finally
23:09get the full story
23:10from both ends.
23:12My point here today
23:13is to get clarity
23:14on all of it.
23:15I have dates down
23:16to the T in my brain
23:18of what was said
23:19and what was done,
23:20so I know what he
23:21told me when he was
23:22at my house and everything.
23:24So I've done a lot
23:26of shitty things,
23:27and maybe this was my karma.
23:29But I feel like I've had
23:30my karma already.
23:31So why am I still
23:32getting karma?
23:33I don't think it's karma.
23:35I think it's just like
23:36you're in the space
23:37where it's time
23:38to move forward.
23:40Should we sit?
23:41Yeah.
23:42Just need to relax
23:43for a second.
23:44It's so hard
23:45stepping in stone.
23:46I feel really sick.
23:47I know.
23:48It's going to be hard,
23:49but it's like you need
23:50to move forward
23:51in either direction.
23:52Because you already know
23:53what they're going to be about.
23:54No, I don't.
23:55Like, yeah, but I don't.
23:56This will be
23:57like the closure
23:58you need to close
23:59this chapter.
24:00Whether it goes well
24:01or bad,
24:02it's like at least you know
24:03and it's not going
24:04to eat you alive anymore.
24:07Yeah, we're good.
24:09Life's great.
24:11If Jenna confirms
24:12what Dakota has told me,
24:13I do feel like
24:14we can move forward.
24:17But if he is still lying,
24:19I'm done.
24:20Don't be a bitch.
24:21We have healthy kids.
24:22Don't be a bitch.
24:49Everything's going to be great.
24:50Don't worry.
25:02Hello!
25:03Come on in.
25:04Glad you made it okay.
25:08You can just sit over there.
25:20How's it going?
25:21Good.
25:22How are you?
25:23I'm okay.
25:24Yeah?
25:25Yeah.
25:28I can't even tell you
25:29how incredibly awkward this is.
25:31Like, gosh,
25:32I don't even know what to do.
25:33I'm like, do I turn a song on?
25:35Do we hold hands and sing?
25:37Like, what do we do?
25:38I don't even know.
25:39It's the most awkward thing
25:40in my entire life.
25:41It's like dead silence.
25:42I don't even know
25:43what to do.
25:44I'm like,
25:45I don't even know
25:46what to do.
25:47I'm like,
25:48I don't even know
25:49what to do.
25:50It's the most awkward thing
25:51in my entire life.
25:52It's like dead silence.
25:53It's like so uncomfortable.
25:54Yeah, I know.
25:55Me too.
25:56But it's not you.
25:57It's the situation.
25:58Yeah.
25:59And you're just,
26:00unfortunately,
26:01the one that was
26:02in the situation.
26:03Yeah.
26:04Like, I feel like
26:05I, like, needed this
26:06for, like, so long.
26:07Yeah.
26:08And I feel like
26:09I have such,
26:10like, so many trust issues
26:11and, like, anxiety
26:12and all the things.
26:13So, like,
26:14I just want you to feel good,
26:15you know?
26:16Yeah, well, thank you.
26:17Often,
26:18I just want the truth.
26:19Yeah,
26:20and I would feel the same.
26:21I'll show you all the texts
26:22and all the things.
26:26Yeah, that would
26:27actually be great.
26:28Okay.
26:29I'm shaking.
26:30I'm glad that Jenna
26:31is coming forward
26:32and showing her messages
26:33because it's not
26:34an easy thing to do.
26:35It's honestly
26:36incredibly awkward
26:37and she basically said
26:38she would do it
26:39because she wouldn't want
26:40to be in Taylor's shoes
26:41and she would want
26:42to know the truth.
26:48The silence.
26:49This is going to take a minute,
26:50so I want to say sorry.
26:51Yeah.
26:52You guys can keep talking.
26:54But, yeah.
26:58Did you hang out August 3rd?
27:00Do you remember?
27:01There was one time
27:02we went to the trampoline park,
27:03one time we went
27:04to the dinosaur museum,
27:05and then one time
27:06he came over
27:07and we watched a movie.
27:08What did you guys do that day?
27:10What did we say?
27:11It's saying,
27:12do you, like,
27:13want to come to me?
27:14You sent him your address.
27:16No, he said on my way
27:17the next day.
27:19Yeah, he did, yeah.
27:20Okay, yeah.
27:21He said he never
27:22hung out with you that day.
27:23Okay, well.
27:25So he spent the night that night?
27:27I don't know exactly
27:28if it was that night.
27:29I do know that he spent the night.
27:30More than once.
27:33Okay.
27:34Okay, what did you do
27:35the first night
27:36you spent the night?
27:37Did you do anything with him?
27:38It says,
27:39I really hope you don't hate me.
27:40I'm sorry if that went,
27:41if we went too far last night.
27:43We never had sex, for sure.
27:44I'm...
27:45It's okay,
27:46you can be straight up.
27:47So I feel like we did
27:48a little bit more
27:49than just making out.
27:50I feel like we just,
27:51like, probably did
27:52maybe hand stuff.
27:53I don't even think
27:54I would have done it to him, though,
27:55because being raised Mormon,
27:56I just was like,
27:57so I'm sinning?
27:58So he's saying,
27:59hey, do you want,
28:01do you want to come over?
28:02I'm just hanging with friends.
28:03So did you go to him that night?
28:04August 4th?
28:055th.
28:06No, I didn't go that night.
28:07But clearly,
28:08he invited you over.
28:10Yeah.
28:16He was, like, texting me
28:17all day this day.
28:18He came over to your house,
28:19and he's saying,
28:20thank you for letting me
28:21crash at your house,
28:22and he came over that night
28:23to my house and spent the night
28:24and fucked me.
28:25So, yeah.
28:27He apologized for everything,
28:29like, that night.
28:31It's so awful.
28:32This is actually so awful.
28:33He definitely lied a ton.
28:36So he deleted a lot?
28:38Yeah.
28:39Now I get why he was so terrified
28:41of all of this.
28:43I found out a lot
28:44I found out a lot of things
28:45that were not
28:47being told the truth
28:48this entire time.
28:49He made it seem like
28:50she was the one
28:51that was always
28:52instigating and begging.
28:53No, it was him.
28:55He said he had just
28:56kissed her on the couch.
28:57Nope.
28:58He went on the couch,
28:59they hooked up on the couch,
29:01and then they went to the room,
29:02they hooked up.
29:03He's trying to hang out
29:04with her in the day,
29:05respecting her,
29:06apologizing because
29:07he went too far with her,
29:08which he didn't freaking
29:09even have sex with her,
29:10but he's apologizing to her.
29:12Where the fuck
29:13is my apology
29:14for hurting me that day?
29:15I was the night girl
29:17that you came over to
29:18at night,
29:19and you were asking her
29:21on date dates
29:22and telling her cute things.
29:24I feel like
29:25a piece of fucking trash.
29:28In our faith,
29:29we were taught
29:30to wait for
29:31the person that
29:32we want to marry
29:33and end up with,
29:35and I feel like
29:36obviously if I hadn't
29:37been sleeping with him
29:38that early on,
29:39I don't think
29:40I would have been as hurt,
29:41and it's why
29:42it's a guideline
29:43because it's gonna prevent
29:44these types of things
29:45from happening.
29:48I'm sorry,
29:49Jennifer.
29:50No, I'm sorry for this.
29:52And it's like,
29:53not even you.
29:54That's what sucks.
29:55So you posted a TikTok
29:56with him in your bathroom,
29:57and I just had
29:58like this feeling
29:59in my chest like,
30:00don't trust him,
30:01kind of,
30:02and I said,
30:03are you dating Taylor?
30:04And he told me no,
30:05it was just for clout,
30:06and like,
30:07she's just helping me
30:08build like my social media.
30:10He said that,
30:11that he was just
30:12seeing Taylor for clout.
30:13Yeah.
30:36I'm so sorry.
30:38I hate it!
30:39I hate it!
30:42I just feel horrible
30:43for Taylor,
30:44like I,
30:45it's hard because
30:46I don't even know
30:47how to comfort her.
30:48I just feel for her,
30:49like I feel the pain
30:50that she's feeling,
30:51and like,
30:52I've never seen her like this.
30:53I'm over here asking him
30:54to hang out,
30:55and he's lying
30:56and saying I can't,
30:57and he's like texting her
30:58to hang out,
30:59and saying Jenna
31:00baked me.
31:05He made you sound desperate,
31:08and he's the one
31:09texting you.
31:10At least you know now,
31:11like your feelings were right.
31:12It's valid
31:13what you were feeling
31:14this whole time.
31:15How do you do that to a girl?
31:19It's okay.
31:23You're so strong.
31:24I loved him!
31:25I loved him!
31:26I know.
31:27I know.
31:41What?
31:43It's just a spider.
31:45You see,
31:46there's no one in the mountain.
31:47Yeah,
31:48she looks like us.
31:49She does?
31:50She actually has three.
31:51Well,
31:52she's about to have three.
31:53Hello!
31:54Hey!
31:55I definitely missed
31:56the friendships
31:57that came with Mom Talk.
31:58I'm really hoping
31:59to be able to reconnect
32:00with Whitney.
32:01I've known Whitney
32:02for a few years now,
32:03and I did see her
32:04at the Cowboy Pillows event,
32:05but it has been a while
32:06since we've really
32:07been around each other.
32:08You look amazing!
32:09Yeah, you look amazing!
32:10How are you?
32:11After the Cowboy Pillows event,
32:12I'm not sure
32:13where I stand with everybody,
32:14so I'm starting with Whitney.
32:16I cannot believe
32:17it's as toasty as it is.
32:18I know,
32:19it was like so...
32:20Literally put all of us
32:21in hoodies.
32:22No, seriously,
32:23I'm like,
32:24I'm not even wearing
32:25anything under this.
32:26My kids aren't either.
32:27I'm like,
32:28I'm sweating.
32:29At least have a tank top.
32:30Gosh, I know.
32:31I mean,
32:32I guess I could lay out
32:33in my bra.
32:34There you go.
32:35I am one of the Mom Talk OGs.
32:36Taylor definitely
32:37I feel like,
32:38ran the show.
32:39I think she's definitely
32:40the best at that,
32:41but Taylor had no plans
32:42of doing it by herself,
32:43so I came.
32:44I first invited Whitney,
32:45and then it just
32:46kind of snowballed.
32:47Isn't Coco
32:48the same age as Liam?
32:49She just turned three.
32:50Oh my gosh,
32:51that's insane,
32:52because I remember
32:53making videos
32:54when you were pregnant.
32:55Isn't that wild?
32:56I totally get
32:57why everyone's
32:58questioning and weird
32:59that Miranda's coming back
33:00into the fold right now,
33:01but like,
33:02genuinely,
33:03I just feel like
33:04I can relate with her,
33:05because she obviously
33:06is now having
33:07the courage or strength
33:08or whatever
33:09to come back,
33:10and also,
33:11can we please
33:12have a new villain?
33:13That person cannot be me.
33:16The cowboy pillows thing,
33:17like,
33:18they thought that you were
33:19still lying
33:20about this weaning scandal.
33:21I don't think
33:22that's a conversation
33:23I would want to have
33:24with the other mom.
33:25No, and honestly,
33:26it's none of our business,
33:27so who cares?
33:28Exactly,
33:29and that's the thing
33:30is that I'm just like,
33:31I've always wanted
33:32to resolve it with just Taylor,
33:33because it's like,
33:34even though she felt
33:35like I would rather
33:36not solve it all online,
33:37because there has been
33:38so much online.
33:39That's like the worst
33:40way to do it.
33:41Like, have we not
33:42learned our lesson yet?
33:43Yes.
33:44Holy hell.
33:45And I really just,
33:46honestly, overall,
33:47I just want it to be
33:48like the best.
33:49I know.
33:50I'm like,
33:51Taylor, girl,
33:52we've got to get you
33:53out of 2022.
33:54Yeah.
33:55Obviously,
33:56things were
33:57a little awkward
33:58at the event,
33:59so I am hosting
34:00a happy hour at my house
34:01just to kind of
34:02break the ice.
34:03I kind of want to
34:04feel if the girls
34:05are open to the idea
34:06of me rejoining
34:07MomTalk or not.
34:08And I invited Whitney
34:09because I would love
34:10to have a friend's support.
34:11I'm curious.
34:12I'm curious to see
34:13where time takes us.
34:14Like, the fact that
34:15you're coming back,
34:16I wonder if someone
34:17will leave.
34:18I'll make my own
34:19MomTalk with my kids.
34:20Suspecting
34:21Taylor
34:22is a woman
34:23with a child.
34:24And she's
34:25a mom.
34:26And she's
34:27a mom.
34:28And she's
34:29a mom.
34:30And she's
34:31a mom.
34:32And she's
34:33a mom.
34:34Suspect thinks
34:35that getting pregnant
34:36at 16 is a flex.
34:37Oh!
34:38Oh!
34:39Oh!
34:40Oh!
34:41Oh!
34:42Oh!
34:43Oh!
34:44Oh!
34:45Oh!
34:46Oh!
34:47Oh!
34:48Oh!
34:49Oh!
34:50Oh!
34:51Oh!
34:52Oh!
34:53Oh!
34:54Oh!
34:55Oh!
34:56Oh!
34:57Oh!
34:58Oh!
34:59Oh!
35:00Oh!
35:01Oh!
35:02Oh!
35:03Oh!
35:04Oh!
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35:06Oh!
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35:08Oh!
35:09Oh!
35:10Oh!
35:11Oh!
35:12Oh!
35:13Oh!
35:14Oh!
35:15Oh!
35:16Oh!
35:17Oh!
35:18Oh!
35:19Oh!
35:20Oh!
35:21Oh!
35:22Oh!
35:23Oh!
35:24Oh!
35:25Oh!
35:26Oh!
35:27Oh!
35:28Oh!
35:29Oh!
35:30Oh!
35:31Oh God, this is going in my mouth.
35:33I just got an STD.
35:35Oh my God!
35:35Oh my God!
35:36Bye, daddy.
35:37I feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack.
35:40I'm not kidding.
35:41You're a girl.
35:42Ah!
35:42Ah!
35:43Ah!
35:44Ah!
35:45Ah!
35:46Ah!
35:47That's it.
35:47I'm going back to church.
35:48Woo!
35:49I look like I was in a hail of gogs.
35:52That was nuts.
35:53Yay!
35:54You did it!
35:55I feel like we deserve a drink.
35:57Literally, I'm thirsty after that.
35:59Make it a jumble.
35:59Ooh.
36:01Look at me.
36:02Wait, that one's mine.
36:05Good job, guys.
36:06Church is surviving.
36:07Mom Talk survived.
36:09Woo!
36:09Yes!
36:11We got two saints and two sinners.
36:12Who's gonna win?
36:13We're gonna pull you guys to the dark side.
36:15Speaking of, can we bring up happy hour?
36:18Yeah, can we talk about that first?
36:19Yeah, why are we all invited?
36:21So Miranda DM'd us on Instagram out of the blue,
36:24all of the Mom Talk girlies,
36:25and she wants to have us over for a happy hour.
36:28I don't understand why she's trying so hard
36:30to reach out now when she had three years to do it
36:32and never cared to.
36:34I'm just kidding, I know why.
36:37Because she wants that bag, baby.
36:39I think she burnt her bridges,
36:40and now she sees how well Mom Talk is doing,
36:42and now she's just coming on back in
36:45at a convenient time, isn't she?
36:46But we can't let people in who just want clout.
36:49Anyone that comes in at this point is clout chasing.
36:51That just is what it is.
36:53Are you guys gonna go?
36:55I don't really want to.
36:56Rekia was like, am I forced to go?
36:58I'm like, anyways.
37:00And you're like, I don't know why we're even
37:01entertaining any of this shit.
37:03For us, it's like, why would we want to have you back in?
37:07I'm curious what she'll say, though,
37:09because I feel like the other day at the event,
37:11we were all shocked by what she was saying.
37:13Oh, I was having none of it.
37:14I was like, um.
37:16I feel like you guys were kissing her ass.
37:18What?
37:19Well, okay, I don't know Miranda,
37:20so that's the thing is, I don't know how to act.
37:22If it's not me kissing ass or me being like,
37:25do I really want to give you a chance?
37:27It's that I literally don't give a shit
37:29about anything other than the truth.
37:31I want to hear both sides, if I'm being honest.
37:33Also, I'm not ever gonna be the type of person
37:35that is just gonna be like a bitch to be a bitch.
37:39Like, I want to.
37:40No, I get that.
37:40No one's being a bitch.
37:41But also, again, like Whitney,
37:43it's a consequence of your own actions.
37:44If you're gonna lie and then throw Taylor
37:46under the bus for two years,
37:47then obviously we're gonna give it back.
37:49It was so weird.
37:50Is it a lie, though?
37:51I would love to sit down Taylor and rip it together.
37:54And just possibly both of them.
37:55You've never heard the story
37:56from both of them at the same time?
37:58Yeah.
37:59Which, who knows how that's gonna go?
37:59I'm so excited.
38:00Because they're different stories.
38:01We're gonna bring our popcorn
38:02and we're just gonna watch.
38:03What if they just start making out?
38:06I absolutely think that truth is the basis of trust.
38:09So they need to sit down and have this conversation
38:11and completely hash this out,
38:12especially if Miranda's gonna be welcomed
38:14back into the fold.
38:15It's hard because I feel like there's always
38:18her side, her side, and then the truth.
38:20So I kind of want to just get to the bottom of it
38:22because if Taylor was lying, that's a big deal.
38:24♪ Oh, oh, oh, here we go ♪
38:31♪ This is the call before the storm ♪
38:34♪ Oh, oh, oh, here we go ♪
38:37♪ I can feel it coming on ♪
38:41♪ It's coming on, it's coming on, it's coming on, it's coming on ♪
38:48Come in.
38:49Hi.
38:50Why do you have the baby?
38:51because Dakota had to go to work.
38:53Why didn't he call me?
38:54I don't know.
38:56Wait, he didn't even ask me.
38:58So that's really weird.
39:00Oh, I know.
39:01After everything with Jenna,
39:03I call him like you lied,
39:05like way more than I thought.
39:07There was way more messages deleted.
39:08And I was like, how did you do this?
39:09Like, how have you done this to me?
39:11I was kind of like looking for some sort of like
39:13explanation at the end of the day,
39:14there's just not like what is done is done.
39:16All he can say is like, I'm sorry.
39:18At that point I distanced myself from me.
39:21I don't even want to hear it.
39:21I don't want to hear the excuses.
39:23How are you feeling by the way?
39:24Oh, I'm better.
39:25Does my face look okay?
39:26Yeah, yeah.
39:27Your swelling's going down.
39:28It's like going down.
39:30How's it feeling?
39:31It's feeling okay.
39:31Do I look okay?
39:32Do I look funny?
39:33No, you just look really swollen.
39:34So you look different.
39:35But like, I think once it goes down, it'll be fine.
39:37Yeah.
39:38But you look good and I love your nose.
39:39Oh, I love it too.
39:41So my mom wanted to get a nose job
39:44and then got her whole face done.
39:47Yeah.
39:48When I saw her post-surgery, I was like,
39:53mom, what did you do?
39:54She looked like she got hit by a bus.
39:56Do I look your age?
39:59I wouldn't go that far.
40:00But she's healing well.
40:02And if she feels great, great.
40:05Hi, buddy.
40:06He's so cute.
40:07Oh, I'm sorry, baby.
40:09I think he's teething.
40:11How are you doing?
40:12I'm okay.
40:14I met up with Jonah.
40:16Yeah.
40:17It's just all the lying that really hurts.
40:18I feel like I fell in love with like someone
40:20that like doesn't exist.
40:23He's not the guy that I thought.
40:25Yeah.
40:26Like at all.
40:27Now it's like, where do we go from here?
40:29Yeah.
40:30And that blanket.
40:32I know.
40:33I feel like I just can't like even try like,
40:38I feel like the only thing I've ever asked of Dakota
40:41is to be honest.
40:42Yeah.
40:43That is the only thing.
40:44If he was to walk away, like, could you handle it?
40:48I choose walking away
40:49than those things I just found out.
40:51It's gonna be awful.
40:52Yeah.
40:53I agree.
40:54I don't want that, but I am not gonna settle.
40:56I had a stepdad growing up,
40:58but I've always called him dad
40:59because he adopted me at two
41:00and he's been the father of throughout my life.
41:02So he's my dad.
41:03But I think my trust issues stem from my biological father
41:07leaving me at a young age.
41:09And I think that's why I'm so stuck.
41:11I met my dad once.
41:13My mom took me to a restaurant.
41:16I don't know, how old was I?
41:17Four, maybe.
41:19And he sees me and he's like, what's up, kid?
41:21And that's literally like all he says to me.
41:25And I remember like turning around
41:27and going back to my booth.
41:29I had never heard from my dad after that day.
41:32That has stuck with me more than I ever thought.
41:35When you feel like you're not loved by your dad
41:37and that's the only words he has to say to you,
41:39I think, I don't know.
41:41I think there's just a wound there
41:43that's been there for a very long time
41:44that I've never addressed.
41:45And that's why I'm probably fixating on shit.
41:48I'm like really angry.
41:49Like, I'm like asking God, I'm like, why this too?
41:53Like, why this too?
41:56I came into this relationship wanting it to be different
41:59and like loyal and good.
42:02I feel used and played and like trash.
42:05Like, why am I still on this couch crying?
42:07Like, a year later, it's so annoying.
42:11I'm sorry.
42:14And I didn't even see it coming.
42:16It just sucks.
42:18No.
42:25I'm like angry.
42:29So what do you do?
42:31You keep trying.
42:33I really wish he would have thought of things before
42:35you got pregnant from him.
42:37Just like we said, you know, like,
42:39take your time because it hurts everybody.
42:42Like, not just you.
42:43You have three kids now and you need to focus
42:46and put their lives in front of yours, you and Dakota.
42:49Like, this needs to be your priority.
42:52That's a foundation of our lives, is our family.
42:55If anything that the LDS church has,
42:57like that foundation of a family
42:59is something that I strongly believe in.
43:02Your generation, I think, is just like,
43:04okay, it's not working.
43:05See you later.
43:06And it's not like that.
43:08It's like-
43:09But it hasn't been working for two years.
43:10I know, I know.
43:11But still, Taylor, you need to try.
43:16I'm at a loss.
43:16I'm at a loss right now.
43:18I do love Dakota, but at the same time,
43:21I won't ever be able to trust you.
43:23And so now it's like, what do we have?
43:24So I am gonna tell him, please don't come back home.
43:28You are immediately out of my house
43:30because the only way we're ever gonna work out
43:32is if you let me breathe for a minute.
43:34And I will.
43:36Because I'm here.
43:37I will.
43:39I will.
43:40I will.
43:41I will.
43:42I will.
43:43I will.
43:43I will.
43:44I will.
43:45I will.
43:46I will.
43:59Okay, here we go.
44:01Hi.
44:02How are you guys?
44:03Good.
44:04me to put married or separated?
44:07Depends on the day.
44:08We'll put married for today.
44:09For today, I can put married.
44:10Yeah.
44:11OK.
44:12Come on in.
44:13Zach and I definitely have a lot to work on.
44:16And ketamine therapy is supposed to reset a lot of past traumas
44:23or habits you've created.
44:27Ketamine is in the gray area when it comes to the church.
44:30Yeah, the church doesn't promote ketamine,
44:32but it's definitely not like a commandment.
44:34Zach trying ketamine is a pure example
44:39of how much he's willing to do to show up for a relationship.
44:45This reminds me of when I used to donate plasma.
44:50Too late to back out now.
44:51Yep.
44:52A little bit.
44:53You've started.
44:56Never thought we'd get to this point
44:57where we'd be doing drugs together.
45:01Oh, it hit me.
45:03It's hitting me right now.
45:08You're in this for days.
45:14That was the hardest thing I've ever done.
45:16Will you come cuddle next to me once you're done?
45:19Yeah.
45:26OK, Zach, I'm just going to take your IV up now.
45:28OK.
45:31Were we out for a long time?
45:33I can't remember.
45:34I'm going to come over and give you a hug.
45:37Whoa.
45:44I just had some memories of when we first started dating.
45:48It truly felt like you were like my missing piece.
45:54When we were in Hawaii, when we were like running
45:56through the coffee fields, I was thinking, I was like,
46:04I would literally give anything in the world to relive that day.
46:15I just want to be happy again.
46:18Yeah.
46:22Jen and I do love each other, and we are a team.
46:25And it's easy when you get back to the root
46:29of why you love each other.
46:31Being able to relive some of those memories
46:32and think about some of those times I've had with Jen,
46:35yeah, I just kind of realized just how special she is to me.
46:40A month before I met you, I remember kneeling down
46:45and praying out to God to help me find my person.
46:51And he led me to you.
46:55I want to fight for you, and I will always fight for you.
46:59So.
47:01I love you.
47:02I love you, too.
47:06I'm glad we could come do this.
47:07Yeah, we need this.
47:09So do you still plan on meeting up with Demi and Jesse?
47:16It's important for me that Zach makes peace
47:19with Jesse and Demi, because I feel like tossed in the middle.
47:23I just want to squash everything,
47:25and it resolves a lot of the resentment
47:27I think they're holding about Zach.
47:29Might be a good time, you know, after ketamine.
47:33Might be in the right.
47:34In the right head space to talk to them.
47:36Yeah.
47:36If they're really your best friends,
47:38and they really care about you, and I'm your husband,
47:41then it's important that we have that conversation.
47:49Yeah.
48:08Taylor asked me to move out.
48:10I'm going to just move into a friend's house
48:13for, like, a little bit until I can figure out what to do.
48:16I don't know.
48:17It just sucks.
48:19When I saw Macy call Jenna, I don't know.
48:22I just didn't want more problems.
48:26So I actually decided to tell Taylor,
48:29like, yeah, we just made up.
48:32We, like, tri-humped.
48:33I fell asleep with her on the couch.
48:36The thing that I left out that was, like, a big one
48:38was just that we were in a room, because I knew that one would,
48:42yeah, that one would hurt her.
48:46I deleted some messages that if she was to, like, read those,
48:50I thought that would essentially make me lose her and my son.
48:53I did lie.
48:55I was always doing it selfishly to protect myself.
48:58I just wish I was honest to her.
49:00But it's too late.
49:01Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, because you know, oh, oh, oh,
49:17you better watch out.
49:19Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, coming for you, yes, I'm coming for you.
49:26It's hard, too, because our son's so perfect.
49:31I feel a lot of guilt for him, too,
49:40just feeling like I let him down.
49:43I would do anything to have my family, to be with Taylor.
49:50And yeah, unfortunately, I just, I hurt her really bad,
49:55and I screwed up, and that these are also
49:58consequences of my own actions.
50:01I'm just sick of, yeah, I'm sick of hurting,
50:05and I'm sick of, like, destroying things in my life
50:10due to myself.
50:14Taylor's the one person I've loved the most out of anybody.
50:18It's just worth fighting for.
50:22And that's what I'm going to do.
50:28I'm going to fight for Taylor.
50:42Going into the happy hour at my house,
50:45there's definitely some nerves there going on.
50:47I know that there is a lot of speculation
50:50about my intentions of rejoining Mom Talk.
50:55The biggest is because I'm a single mom now.
50:58And what I really am craving and wanting back
51:02is that support and that friendship.
51:04But I know that I'm going to kind of have
51:07to win these girls over, and I get it,
51:10but I for sure feel like I'm walking into a lion's den.
51:13Hello.
51:14Hi, how are you?
51:17We got a little mocktail situation going on here.
51:20It's loud enough to say mom talk on it.
51:22What the hell?
51:24I'm eating the M.
51:25Mom talk's going to shit, so I'm going to go eat it.
51:28Walking in to see Miranda's cheese spread
51:30that she's made for us,
51:31and the cheese words that said mom talk.
51:37I can't.
51:38The smell of desperation.
51:40Oh, Lord.
51:41Oh, please tell me that.
51:42Stop it.
51:43I'm so sorry.
51:44Ah!
51:45Ah!
51:46Ah!
51:46Ah!
51:47Ah!
51:48Ah!
51:49Ah!
51:50Ah!
51:51I was like, I'm just going to open it.
51:53I'm surprised to see Whitney here,
51:55and I'm just going to have to play the game
51:56of just like, stay away from Whitney.
51:59I do feel this sense of protectiveness around mom talk,
52:03and I do feel like we need to protect it
52:04from people like Whitney,
52:06and maybe Miranda who might have ulterior motives.
52:08I don't want one more problem
52:11bleeding into the health of a mom talk.
52:13How are you?
52:14We're best friends here.
52:15Help yourself.
52:18I'm coming to this event today
52:19because I'm really loving building this relationship
52:21with Miranda.
52:22Not that I'm a swinger,
52:23but we have a lot of other things in common.
52:27We've got two kids.
52:29We're very level-headed people,
52:30and I just want to support her
52:31because I'm sure they're about to have
52:33a really awkward conversation.
52:34It's really been good food.
52:36Honestly, yes.
52:38When did you go into labor with your other two?
52:41Were you really, or were you-
52:41I didn't get induced for everyone.
52:43Really?
52:44I'm excited to because like, I'm done.
52:46Oh, you're done with three and done.
52:47I always say, three's the new six in Utah.
52:49Right?
52:50I don't know what to think about
52:51Miranda and Whitney's new relationship.
52:54I just feel like their whole friendship
52:55seems a little bit phony right now.
52:56And I honestly think it just came from a place of,
52:59they're both trauma bonding over, you know,
53:01ruining friendships with everyone and leaving mom talk.
53:06Hello!
53:07Hi!
53:07Is this your house?
53:08Yeah.
53:09It's so cute.
53:11What did I miss?
53:12Nothing yet.
53:14The vibes are just off.
53:17And I think it's because Mikayla, Layla, and Macy
53:21are against Miranda joining mom talk
53:24because they are teen Taylor.
53:26But to be honest, I actually don't mind Miranda
53:29and she's a single mother.
53:31So as a woman, I don't see why we can't support her.
53:36We can also move, if you guys are done eating,
53:37we can move over to the couch
53:38so you guys don't have to sit on the back of the couch.
53:41I'm gonna be honest, I'm shocked
53:42you're still showing up to mom talk stuff after-
53:44Oh, really?
53:45Oh, okay, absolutely.
53:46Yes, after everything.
53:48Also, we go to Vegas.
53:49I don't know if I can trust you.
53:51Yeah.
53:52It's just like no one was there for me.
53:54I mean, I literally reached out to everyone
53:57in the group message.
53:58You weren't in the group message, so you didn't see this.
53:59I basically said like, hey you guys,
54:01like I'm struggling right now.
54:03Zach and I are struggling and I would appreciate it
54:04if you didn't feed into any of the negativity
54:07online right now.
54:09Just while we're figuring stuff out, no one responded.
54:12Oh gosh, I'm sorry.
54:13It's just, it's just upsetting.
54:15Yeah, I would hate that.
54:18Hello.
54:19Hi.
54:20Come on in.
54:21I decided to come to Miranda's happy hour
54:24because I am trying to take control of my life.
54:27One, separating from Dakota,
54:29and two, I'm curious what she has to say to the group
54:32because if she decides to pull some lies out,
54:36I will be there to set it straight,
54:37but I will not be called a liar when I'm not a liar.
54:39I'm done with that.
54:41Macy.
54:42Oh, it's rather like the, yeah, there's a one.
54:45It's like, how do you bring up having to call Macy?
54:47It's like too many people.
54:48I don't want to be rude, but I also like,
54:51like if you're the one inserting yourself
54:52into our group now, I feel like we almost have to
54:56say how we feel.
54:58Figuring, there's memories.
55:01Oh, like what kind of memories?
55:02I'd love to get all that cleared up.
55:04Now's the time to prank.
55:07So clearly, there's a conversation to be had.
55:09Yeah.
55:10Between Taylor and Miranda.
55:12No, I think everyone.
55:15Oh, let's do it.
55:17Well, I guess my first question is,
55:19what was the intention between inviting all of us over here?
55:22Like, I'm genuinely curious
55:23because we haven't really talked to you in like two years.
55:25Right.
55:26I was kind of like, I just would like to have you guys over
55:28to kind of like clear the air,
55:30have it be like an ice breaker.
55:31I really want to put everything behind us and move forward.
55:35I feel like it all just comes down to timing again.
55:37I just feel like convenient timing to come back in
55:40and be like, oh, I'm ready to be friends again.
55:41Everything feels kind of fake to me about it.
55:43Even the conversation we had just the other day
55:45at the event, it was like, oh, we only kissed.
55:47And I was like, well, that's not what we had at all either.
55:52It's frustrating when someone's lying through their teeth
55:54and because you're threatening my relationship
55:57with all of my girls and mom talk.
55:59I hope that the girls will have my back
56:02because it's going to get messy for sure.
56:13What I'm hearing is you deserve what you got.
56:15You're saying I was trash.
56:17When you guys are together, it's eating you alive.
56:19Don't touch me.
56:20Don't touch me.
56:20You're not hugging him.
56:22Mom talk.
56:23Within this group, there are so many secrets, so many lies.
56:26Do you ask her about the confession that Macy got?
56:29I slept with Demi's husband last year.
56:31This is not what we were a year ago.
56:35Seems like everybody's got skeletons in the closet.
56:37Who's lying to us?
56:38The only time I touched anyone was kissing.
56:41That is a lie.
56:42Is that true or false?
56:44That is 100% a blatant lie.
56:46And the crap that I've been through for defending
56:48you and your actions?
56:49This is our marriage.
56:50This isn't a game.
56:51I gave consent for your husband to rub his little dick on me?
56:57OK, well, this escalated quickly.
56:59Dear kind Heavenly Father, please strengthen our friends.
57:02I don't let myself feel sometimes.
57:04And it's still hard for me.
57:06I would be fighting to the death defending you.
57:09Does this mean I'm back in mom talk?
57:12I'm calling you out on your shit.
57:14Case, let's fucking do it.
57:15The truth needs to be brought to light.
57:17It'll never be the same, ever.
57:19And it's not her biggest fan for what she's done to, like, you?
57:21Yeah.
57:22Demi's trying to get the whole group against me.
57:24I will make her look like such a fool.
57:26She was playing truth or dare with a ton of single men.
57:29Look at you fucking lie.
57:30Oh, shit.
57:32World War III is breaking out.
57:34Stop.
57:34Ah!
57:35What's happening?
57:36What the fuck are you going to do?
57:37What the fuck are you going to do?
57:38Oh!