- 5/29/2025
🚀 One Click to Financial Freedom: Arthur Lin’s DeFi Mission With Giants Protocol – Brian Rose & Arthur Lin 💰🔗
What if achieving financial freedom was just one click away? 🖱️💸 In this game-changing conversation, Brian Rose sits down with Arthur Lin to explore how Giants Protocol is revolutionizing DeFi to make wealth-building accessible to everyone. 🌍⚡
✅ How DeFi is breaking barriers in traditional finance 🔓🏦
✅ Giants Protocol’s vision for a borderless financial future 🌎💡
✅ Can decentralization create true financial freedom? 🔥💰
The future of money is here—don’t miss this exclusive deep dive! 🎙️📈
🍿 Watch the Full Episode: londonreal.tv/lin
💰The Investment club: londonreal.tv/club
💰Crypto & DeFi Academy: londonreal.tv/defi
What if achieving financial freedom was just one click away? 🖱️💸 In this game-changing conversation, Brian Rose sits down with Arthur Lin to explore how Giants Protocol is revolutionizing DeFi to make wealth-building accessible to everyone. 🌍⚡
✅ How DeFi is breaking barriers in traditional finance 🔓🏦
✅ Giants Protocol’s vision for a borderless financial future 🌎💡
✅ Can decentralization create true financial freedom? 🔥💰
The future of money is here—don’t miss this exclusive deep dive! 🎙️📈
🍿 Watch the Full Episode: londonreal.tv/lin
💰The Investment club: londonreal.tv/club
💰Crypto & DeFi Academy: londonreal.tv/defi
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00:01The future is definitely something where I think everyone will have an AI agent.
00:06This is what we are building.
00:08Giants Protocol is the platform for Web2 and Web3 businesses to launch in the AI space.
00:14We have also developed AI-FE, an AI agent which helps anyone use DeFi.
00:20You can do staking, lending borrowing, cost chain bridging with a single click of button.
00:26Your former Special Forces and your government of Singapore basically brought you in on a mission.
00:32You've tapped this group called ASTAR. You're like James Bond.
00:35The Agency of Science, Tech and Research is more like the James Bond Lab.
00:39300 engineers and researchers in the blockchain and AI space and we have full support on them.
00:44That's a huge endorsement and a lot of pressure because you're the very first and only crypto company funded by the Singapore Sovereign Wealth Fund.
00:53The pressure is essential for us to perform.
00:56My ability to lead and to execute is the key reasons why people want to partner.
01:00Because time is limited, resources are limited.
01:02Everybody wants to win. Who do you want to fight alongside with to win?
01:06I wanted to ask you about one of your tours in Afghanistan when you looked around at all the people there
01:11and you came to a conclusion that I never thought I'd hear a soldier say.
01:14Can you talk a little bit about that?
01:16Being in the Special Forces and graduating from the U.S. Rangers School was my first mission.
01:20The next mission is really to bring peace and security to the rest of the world.
01:24To maximize human potential in a global community state called Giants Protocol.
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03:24How far can we go?
03:27This is London Real.
03:28I am Brian Rose.
03:29My guest today is.
03:30Arthur Lin.
03:31The former special forces commander, crypto pioneer and Web3 expert.
03:33You are the CEO and founder of Giants Protocol, an AI powered launchpad bringing traditional companies into crypto by supercharging Web3 through AI driven DeFi applications.
03:47Giants Protocol serves as a gateway for institutional and retail investors to access AI powered blockchain solutions.
04:05You are a former special forces commander with 12 years of service including two tours in Afghanistan and a graduate of the US Army Ranger School.
04:16You believe that AI agents are the future of crypto driving automation efficiency and scalability in decentralized finance.
04:24At Giants Protocol, your vision is democratizing crypto ownership for the masses by leveraging AI driven digital asset management, making DeFi more accessible, intelligent and efficient than ever before.
04:39Arthur, welcome to London Real in Dubai.
04:42Jim, thank you, Brian.
04:44Good to see you, buddy.
04:45I want to start by saying that Giants Protocol is one of our portfolio companies here at London Real Ventures, the world's first media powered investment firm where our mission is to transform the world.
04:53By investing in cutting edge Web3 and AI companies while giving our partners marketing exposure across the London Real media platforms and academies.
05:01We heighten awareness, create customers and build communities by leveraging our global audience and extensive network.
05:07Arthur, we are super excited to be part of this journey with you.
05:11So let's jump in.
05:12What is Giants Protocol?
05:15Before that, you know, the last time we met at London Real, Donald Trump was announced the winner of the US presidential election.
05:23That day.
05:24That day.
05:25And shit gets real.
05:26It has turned the bull into a big competition.
05:29All right.
05:30So now the world is competing for the new power.
05:34And the new power is crypto.
05:35And to win the new power, the competition to win this new power is powered by AI.
05:42So who has got artificial intelligence supporting them efficiently will win this war.
05:50So we naturally have to, right, get into the AI space to win, right, in this crypto space, which is competition is stiff, it's hot, it's still a bull market, but time is running out.
06:05And Giants Protocol is the platform for businesses for Web2 and Web3 businesses to launch their services and products in the AI space.
06:18And we have a launchpad.
06:20We have also developed a AI agent called AI FE, AI for everyone, which helps anyone and everyone use DeFi with a single click of button.
06:35So, I mean, we all know DeFi is complicated, right, you need to know the different blockchains, you need to do your research, it can be very complicated as security is a concern, you know, managing different types of wallets as well, different addresses.
06:50So we have developed within two weeks, AI agent that helps you do on-chain and off-chain farming.
06:59On-chain, we're looking at functions like staking, lending borrowing, liquidity provision, multi-chain, cross-chain bridging.
07:11So these are the things that will help, you know, the users farm for airdrop tokens where there are $15 billion worth of airdrop tokens
07:19in the last 12 months, $27 billion in the last three years.
07:23And we expect to see a lot more this year as well.
07:26So a lot of liquidity in the market, in the DeFi space, but very few users.
07:31We're only seeing like $6 to $10 million out of the potential $500 million users in the current market.
07:37So we want to enable users, not to, they don't need anything, just low risk, medium risk, high risk.
07:44One click, start farming for tokens and start participating in DeFi so that it can have wealth generation in the crypto space
07:54without, you know, spending the time, the energy to research and stay awake.
08:00You know, every time we wake up, you know, the market change is either it goes red or it goes green, right?
08:06And within a very short time. So information, the market is moving very fast.
08:12And also we have the off-chain side as well.
08:14So the off-chain allows the AI agent to help users to farm for points as well.
08:24So like social media, Twitter, Discord, Telegram.
08:29So different kinds of social campaigns as well.
08:31So the off-chain side.
08:32So it's all live.
08:34Wow.
08:35So check out at Giants Protocol and you can use the AIFE for socials for Twitter and also to farm for hyperliquid tokens as well.
08:47Through, you know, this cross-chain bridging, swapping all the tokens with a click of a button.
08:55Wow.
08:56All right.
08:57And that's to help institutions come in, traditional finance institutions, maybe even starting in Singapore where you're from,
09:03but also to bring retail people in and make it super simple for them just to access that liquidity, access that yield.
09:09And that's a huge friction point right now because DeFi is complicated, but DFAI is the way forward you believe.
09:19It is.
09:20It is because of the gaps in DeFi.
09:23That's why, I mean, DeFi has been around for seven, eight years, maybe even longer.
09:30But there's only six to 10 million people active users now out of the 500 million.
09:37Why? Because of all this friction, right?
09:40Knowledge and also security, scams, right?
09:44There's a lot of things to manage and learn for a new user.
09:48And with Donald Trump coming in power, pushing his own meme token, Trump, all right?
09:57And his own DeFi protocol.
09:59And he also is a stakeholder of World Liberty 5 as well.
10:06It's also a DeFi company.
10:08So that will bring on board a lot more new users into the DeFi space.
10:13But people are still wondering how do they get their Solana?
10:16How do they get to use Jupiter?
10:18All right.
10:19So we have this AI FE where people can just click a button.
10:24And for us, we want to launch businesses as well.
10:26Web 2 businesses, Web 3 businesses.
10:28Supercharge them with AI.
10:29And then launch them through our launch pad.
10:33And put all the DeFi tools and infrastructure in place where users can generate you by participating in these different products and services.
10:45So yeah, I think this is a natural way to go to bridge the gaps.
10:49And we have seen huge fast growth in the last two to three weeks.
10:56We have over 10,000 daily on-chain user.
11:00Wow.
11:01So just a span of like two to three weeks without any marketing.
11:05This is our first external communication to the public about our DeFi agent.
11:14Let's zoom out real quick and talk about you.
11:17Because your former special forces and your country, your government of Singapore, basically brought you in on a mission, I believe.
11:26You got funding from the Sovereign Wealth Fund.
11:28And recently, you've tapped this group called ASTAR, which I think is a super high level like AI think tank out of Singapore,
11:36to go and really work with you to create the most cutting edge AI agents.
11:41I mean, you know, you're like James Bond or something here.
11:44Can you talk about all of these factors?
11:46Because it makes you extremely unique in this space.
11:49Yep.
11:50So ASTAR is basically representing Agency of Science, Tech and Research of Singapore.
11:57It's a national research agency of Singapore, but it's more like the James Bond Lab.
12:01All right.
12:02So it's more like the James Bond Lab.
12:04They have 8,000 research engineers and scientists supporting the full spectrum of the Singapore economy.
12:12From biotech, pharmaceutical, to aerodynamics, to aerospace, everything.
12:20But they have also 300 engineers and researchers in the blockchain and AI space.
12:26And we have full support from them to do our AI R&D.
12:30And we all know how expensive is it to do AI R&D.
12:35OpenAI did for 500 million.
12:37And of course, Chinese, Steve said, you know, very, very debatable $6 million.
12:44We can talk more about it later.
12:46So we want to do it even more efficiently.
12:49This is national government resources.
12:52And we have that access.
12:54And we are able to build with the R&D in terms of existing technology they have built before.
13:03So there are models.
13:04There's a lot of data that we can tap into.
13:06And we are providing the angle of crypto.
13:09The go to market of how to make the models more crypto native.
13:15And this is also an initiative given to you by the Singapore government.
13:19We are the first, yes.
13:20And funded the only I think you're the very first and only crypto company funded by also Sovereign Wealth as well.
13:27So that's a huge endorsement and a lot of pressure on you because you're the go to guy with all of these resources.
13:34Right.
13:35And one of the biggest economies in the world.
13:37Loving the pressure because I was a sportsman since a kid.
13:42So I was a national runner for 800 meters.
13:45I was a national champion for 800 meters.
13:47I compete in international competitions as well.
13:51Of course, I went to the U.S. Rangers School representing Singapore in the U.S. Army for the U.S. Ranger School.
13:58There are other international students.
14:00Of course, they are the world best U.S. Army soldiers as well.
14:04The best in the U.S. Army goes to the U.S. Ranger School.
14:07And of course, I graduated.
14:09Every day is a competition to stay awake, to stay alive and to pass all the way to graduation.
14:17So the pressure is essential for us to perform and to be a winner.
14:24And I think this is the era of competition.
14:27In the next four years with Donald Trump, he has turned up the speed of competition because it is new power.
14:33New power is all about competition.
14:35where old power is really stagnant, right?
14:38They are just defending the power.
14:40But new power, everyone is up for grabs.
14:42Everything, anything is possible.
14:44And being well placed in Singapore and I'm blessed to have the experience of going through special forces training and doing two tours in Afghanistan, interacting with troops from around the world, like leaders, troops, warriors from around the world.
15:04Operating with these people, getting me well exposed to high level performance and then doing entrepreneurship six years in China.
15:13You know, how crazy the competition there is.
15:17We have 1.4 billion people, a lot of capital, but also a lot of competition.
15:24People are hungry.
15:25People are competitive, right?
15:27They are from all walks of life.
15:29There's 1.4 million engineering graduates every year.
15:36That's one third of the world.
15:38So highly competitive environment.
15:39All these competitions drive me to have this mindset that we need to be the best.
15:46If not, we are dead.
15:48And that is also what Singapore is all about.
15:50If we are not the best, we are dead.
15:52We have no natural resources.
15:54So I am, I would say, selected because of the background to lead this mission.
16:03Yeah.
16:04And I think it's a calling and it's exciting calling.
16:08And I think we are in position with London Real to win this.
16:14Well, you sit right on the bridge between these two superpowers.
16:19You know, you spent time in the U.S. at Ranger School.
16:22You spent time in China building your previous startups.
16:25We just saw this big announcement with DeepSeek AI, where it looked like this tiny company maybe toppled the Silicon Valley grade.
16:33And this is going to be a battle back and forth going forward.
16:36And yet you speak both of their languages and you're using these same AI tools in your protocol.
16:42Can you talk about how that positions you kind of in this unique way?
16:45You understand how both superpowers do business.
16:48And I think what you're doing is bringing everybody on chain to Giants Protocol.
16:55If we were to chart the future three to five years down the road, it's going to be a very globalized community, a globalized community.
17:07It really is.
17:08It's going to be a lot more with AI, with crypto.
17:13And Singapore has always been an international community.
17:18We are all migrants.
17:20Singapore is a small island fishing town 200 years ago.
17:27My ancestors are from China.
17:29My neighbors are from UK.
17:32So they are from all walks of life.
17:35We are part of the British colonial.
17:37We are also occupied by the Japanese.
17:40And we also had the influx of Chinese migrants and Indian migrants 100 years ago as well.
17:48So we formulate the best of both worlds from the East and the West.
17:56All right.
17:57So that kind of interaction is the same.
17:59I think a lot of great startups are getting the best talents from all around the world because there are different ways of solving a problem.
18:08There are some more ways that are more expensive.
18:11There are some ways that are less expensive and more efficient, just like solving a mathematical problem as well.
18:17And in Singapore, we are neutral.
18:20So I can speak both Chinese because I spent six years in China and I can speak English very well.
18:26And I have the networks and I have the culture understanding as well.
18:29So I'm able to lead American devs in my team.
18:33I am able to lead Chinese devs in my team with different cultures and putting them together to work together.
18:38So that kind of synergy is great.
18:42And we don't reinvent the wheel.
18:44There are already existing systems out there.
18:46There are existing products, technology out there.
18:48But how can we put these technologies together, these frameworks together, synergize and supercharge it with our national research agency, A-Star, to create solutions fast so that people can bridge the gap and be the first mover themselves.
19:07So we really want to use these best resources around the East and the West, mesh it all up together, put a successful formula and create a winning strategy for everyone.
19:23Everyone that is normal, there's a normie, there's a degen, can become a giant with giant protocol.
19:30Let's drill down and talk about AI agents, because this is a new narrative.
19:37It's a new meta.
19:38I think the world kind of understands what AI is after the chat GPT moment.
19:42A lot of people have used it and realize it's good at coming up with solutions and writing and et cetera.
19:49But the AI agent is quite a new concept.
19:52And a lot of people watching or listening to this won't even necessarily know what an AI agent does or maybe what a variety of them do.
20:00So how do you explain that to people, especially traditional finance?
20:03What does an AI agent do?
20:05And how does that work with the AIFE, AI for everybody on Giants protocol?
20:10So AI agent has been in the talks a lot in the last three months, but now it's really here.
20:17There's a lot of AI agents out there.
20:18It's all about execution.
20:21So in the past, we have AI, we have models, we have LLMs to collect data, analyze the data, and generate human-like texts or human-like analysis.
20:35AI agents execute based on this data.
20:39So it's a combination of all these machine learning and language models.
20:43But at the end of the day, it executes for you.
20:46So we are able to stitch up different models.
20:50We are using ELIZA OS, ELIZA Framework, to deliver our AI agents for the DFAI.
20:57So basically, we have an AI agent that is a DGEN.
21:00So I'm not a DGEN because I have to lead and run a business.
21:04I can't stay up all night to look at the charts, to participate in conversations.
21:09I can't do that.
21:10But my AI agent can.
21:12They are able to gather information, create conversations, DGEN conversations, or DGEN posts, to engage with the other DGENs, and advise and execute the traits.
21:29So AI agents are all about performing tasks, all about execution, not just about analyzing data.
21:35And it's not new.
21:39It's nothing new.
21:40It's been around, actually, back in the days when I was in China, 2017, there is an AI agent that helps you like a personal assistant to anything that can help you buy Starbucks and order Starbucks and deliver to your doorstep or checking the weather, booking air tickets, all right, on a WeChat mini-app.
22:02It's called Xiao Lai, since like 2017.
22:06They already have it.
22:07Okay.
22:08And we have an AI agent that is a monk that gives you, like, you ask a question or you're depressed or anything in a WeChat mini-app that tells you, you know, Buddhism teachings.
22:21Okay.
22:22Or to give you counseling.
22:25All right.
22:26So that's been around for some time in China.
22:28It's just that recently, it's been more widely adopted globally with the GPTs getting more and more proliferated and more and more advanced.
22:41So the future is definitely something where I think everyone, since birth, will have an AI agent.
22:51And they will help you perform different tasks, watch you, guide you, and as a companion, as an educator, or even something to help you generate income.
23:04And that is what we are focusing on in terms of the DeFi.
23:08So there are different types of agents.
23:10We are focused more on the DeFi side in the crypto space.
23:13And we want to establish the infrastructure, the DeFi infrastructure with AI.
23:18And then giving our retail investors, our users, good product, good services, whether is it Web 2, Web 3, RWA, into the crypto space for them to invest.
23:31Yeah.
23:32So this is what we are building towards.
23:34Are you going to, at some point in the future, offer multiple AI agents, each with its own kind of personality?
23:41One's like a DGEN searching all night for yield, and one is going to think about launching your company on Giants protocol and is going to have other things.
23:49Is that, you know, potentially going to have different personalities all with their own, you know, with their own KPIs?
23:56Is that the future?
23:57Do you think we can have a Brian Rose AI agent?
24:02All in one click.
24:04So Brian Rose can come to our platform with voice and describe how you want an AI agent to be.
24:14And you have a business model, a London Real TV, London Real Ventures business model.
24:22You describe it, you can launch it in one click.
24:25Within 60 seconds, it generates the whole business model, a pitch, and raise capital from the community.
24:36Our community, we have over 250,000 community members.
24:40You get 20% of the revenue.
24:43No tokens will be launched, but it's a revenue service.
24:47So basically, the revenue business model.
24:50Whatever revenue generated, 20% goes to you for the idea for the concept, and 80% goes to the people that invested.
25:01All in one click.
25:02So anyone can launch a concept or an idea through the launch pad.
25:05So of course, there will be different types of agents, and it will be a proliferation.
25:11That's pretty crazy.
25:13That's hard to even imagine.
25:14And it's hard to imagine you guys built that as well.
25:17Talk to me about traditional finance institutions.
25:20Singapore is obviously a huge center of banking.
25:25When you talk to people in banking, I guess they're probably slow to jump on these systems.
25:31Does the AI agent make it much easier for them to onboard and to start using these pieces?
25:36Certainly.
25:38I would say the most important problem to solve is liquidity.
25:44And one of the biggest pinpoints or gaps in terms of liquidity in traditional finance is the stock markets.
25:53Other than Nasdaq, the rest of the stock market are dry in liquidity.
25:59And the liquidity is flowing to crypto.
26:03So having AI agents bring businesses, like I mentioned, through our launch pad, we are able to tokenize them.
26:10We are able to supercharge them with AI, bring them to the crypto space and tap into liquidity.
26:15So when there's attention and there's flow of liquidity in this space, people will follow.
26:21So we have received a lot of investment interest, partnership interest from traditional finance professionals, leaders and companies.
26:34They all want to transform.
26:36The most powerful person has already launched a meme token.
26:45The Trump coin.
26:47The Trump coin.
26:48So this movement cannot be stopped.
26:50Okay.
26:51This movement cannot be stopped.
26:53And of course, the AI agent will make our life much easier to understand.
26:58You know, just using chat GPT, you can learn so much faster.
27:05And so now let's talk about how the world has changed.
27:08I mean, we've got Trump as a president.
27:11He signed an executive orders left and right.
27:13As you mentioned, he owns his own decentralized finance company called World Liberty Financial.
27:18They're buying up huge chunks of crypto.
27:20You got Justin, son of Tron, who's been on this show, who's now partnering with him.
27:25You've got, you know, new people in the SEC.
27:28They took back that SAB 121 law.
27:31So banks can now own crypto.
27:32I mean, we've gone from zero to 100 miles an hour in about 10 days.
27:37How does this affect Giants Protocol and your future?
27:41So hold on tight.
27:42Hold on tight.
27:43Hold on tight.
27:44So like I mentioned, within two to three weeks with zero marketing, we have over 10,000 daily on-chain users.
27:53We have over 250,000 registered users in less than a month.
28:01And after this show, more people from the traditional finance and also for web tour who are inexperienced in crypto can come and learn from Giants Protocol.
28:12And we have a new Twitter account for the AI agent.
28:16It's called EFFIE.
28:17E-F-F-I-E.
28:19Basically, it's an AI agent that communicates and talks and advise you.
28:23Wow.
28:24It just went live this morning on Twitter.
28:27It's got its own Twitter account.
28:29Yes, it's managing its own Twitter account.
28:31It's managing its own Twitter account.
28:33Okay.
28:34And for us, this is one avenue to socialize, educate, communicate with anyone.
28:42That's the entry point through X, through social media.
28:45And we will be onboarding a lot more users because it's easy to use.
28:50Basically, it's free for use.
28:52Our AI-FE agent is free to use for the next three months.
28:56And just to click a button, you can farm for tokens.
29:01You can farm for use.
29:03You can generate $10, $50, $100, depending on the performance of the crypto market and also performance of the projects that we have for free.
29:14Almost zero risk because you're not putting any money in.
29:18So everybody should jump in and start getting those airdrops and farming those airdrops now.
29:23Yeah.
29:24Because it's easy with the AI agent.
29:25That is your first touch point experience on AI agents.
29:30Just a click of a button.
29:32And you're now going to have not only one, but two tokens, from what I understand.
29:35You're going to have the Giants token, but also this AI-FE, AI for everybody token as well.
29:41How do those two work?
29:43Why did you choose to have two?
29:45And I think they're coming soon as well.
29:48So the Giants token is going to be our mothership, the ecosystem token.
29:55And the AI-FE is the specialized utility token for the AI agent.
30:01So having a Giants token will enable you to get more other than AI-FE, there's AI-MA, there's AI-ABC, XYZ coming up from our launch pads.
30:13So by staking the Giants token, it will enable you to unlock new tokens that will be launched, multiple tokens.
30:20So that's the mothership.
30:22And the AI-FE token is basically a revenue share of the AI agent itself.
30:33And having an X amount of tokens for you to stake enables you to unlock the revenue.
30:43So we are also going to burn both the Giants token and the AI-FE token is both a limited supply.
30:50We're going to burn those when there is more utility.
30:53So when people use and pay us, we're going to burn these tokens.
30:57Yeah.
30:58So this is how we're going to generate value for the users having the Giants token and AI-FE tokens.
31:06And what blockchain are you launching these on?
31:08And why did you make that choice?
31:10So we are multi-chain.
31:14So Giants protocol is multi-chain, but we will be launching the Giants token on Solana.
31:20Solana is one of the fastest growing blockchain.
31:25It is high speed.
31:27It is community focus.
31:30And we see that this is where we are able to get the most amount of attention to the space.
31:40Because at the end of the day, it's AI for everyone.
31:43And Solana right now has got the mind share and attention of the crypto market.
31:49So we want to promote this on Solana to bring the people on board and then to the other chains as well.
31:59And vice versa from the other chains.
32:00So we are multi-chain.
32:01So we are experienced in the Bitcoin ecosystem.
32:03We have built on the Bitcoin ecosystem.
32:05We have built on Ethereum as well, EVMs as well.
32:08So we are able to bring liquidity to flow on both sides.
32:13And unlock that liquidity from Bitcoin or Ethereum or any other chains.
32:18Solana will be the base token that we will be using for both Giants token and AIF.
32:25Yeah, it's a nice choice.
32:26There's a ton of liquidity.
32:28There's a huge community.
32:30And there's really amazing DEXs.
32:33So which leads to more liquidity.
32:35Solana is just so easy to use.
32:37It's just so user friendly.
32:39And it's so fast and cheap.
32:43And plans for token generation?
32:46Is this something that's pending fairly soon?
32:48I know you can't talk about dates.
32:49But is this something that you want to happen in this market right now?
32:52Definitely by Q1, this quarter, within the next, as soon as the next three weeks.
32:59And later by this quarter and this quarter by March.
33:04And am I going to need that AIFE token to use the agent?
33:08Or is it just going to allow me to use it better with more perks and more access?
33:12Basically, you can earn the AIFE token by using our AI agent.
33:17Okay.
33:18So the more you use the AI agent token, the more AIFE tokens you will have.
33:23Because you are contributing to the growth, you're contributing to the data.
33:27So you have a stake in this as well.
33:29Okay.
33:30Yeah.
33:31So Giants token will be the one that will be launching.
33:33But AIFE token is the one that will be rewarding.
33:37Okay.
33:38Yes.
33:39Got it.
33:40Okay.
33:41I see.
33:42Now you mentioned DeepSeek.
33:43Am I going to have a choice in the future on different AI models to run on Giants Protocol?
33:48Am I going to be able to choose Grok or Llama or DeepSeek?
33:53Or how does that work?
33:55Because you're going to have different people from China, from America, from different places that all have their preferences.
34:00To be honest, we studied the different models.
34:04They are largely the same.
34:07All right.
34:08They are largely the same.
34:09But of course, with different contexts, because different training of the data.
34:13DeepSeek is censored.
34:17So a lot of data is censored.
34:19And it's not very crypto native because of the regulations in China.
34:23So you won't be using so much of DeepSeek.
34:25What the London Real Investment Club actually does for you, it gives you the keys to open that door to the inside deals.
34:32In the last three weeks, I've participated in three incredible deals.
34:36A layer two Bitcoin protocol, an incredible AI protocol.
34:41The deal flow is beyond what I expected.
34:44I don't think I've ever seen a model like this that just gives average folks the opportunity to be behind the deals.
34:49And that's exactly what we've done.
34:51Not only that, you get to hang out with Brian Rose every week.
34:54And for me, that was huge because I look at Brian as somebody who's not only an expert in the space,
34:59and I think is on the leading edge, but just the leading edge of thought with London Real and the work he's doing there.
35:04To anyone who's taking a serious look at this, I know it's a big decision.
35:09It was a big decision for me and my family.
35:11And it is one of the best decisions I've ever made.
35:14So I wish you all the best and hope you come join us.
35:23Yeah.
35:24But of course we have been playing and implementing, you know, Dipsick on the testnet to just test out the capability and have a good understanding.
35:32We will have to be very open.
35:35All right.
35:36Whatever works best, we use.
35:37Simple as that.
35:38Yeah.
35:39So right now we are using the Eliza OS framework.
35:43It's crypto native.
35:45It's very flexible.
35:47It's open source.
35:48There's a lot of plugins that has been developed by different decentralized projects because it's open source.
35:53So we are able to build on that and also provide to this open source community.
36:00Yeah.
36:01To these open source libraries.
36:03Okay.
36:04Now we kind of covered the tech, but I'm seeing in this space right now in 25, the winners here are the ones that are great at business development.
36:11And I know you're on a plane every two days, Arthur, to all of these countries in Asia.
36:16You're in Dubai.
36:17You're traveling all over the world because I think you're setting up partnerships and, you know, getting the right team and the right investors in the right community.
36:26Can you talk about that?
36:27Do you think that makes the winners is really the business debt and the partnerships?
36:32Do you think that helps?
36:33I think at NLA is about relationship and collaboration.
36:36A lot of talks that AI agent can execute better.
36:41I don't disagree with that.
36:42AI agents can think smarter than humans as well, but can they build better relationships?
36:48So relationship is key.
36:51And having a very flexible and creative mind is also key as well.
36:56As, you know, pivoting or prioritizing different things to win is a very important factor in the crypto space.
37:05That is something that I don't think AI can do better at this current stage and building relationship with the different kind of resources.
37:16Of course, we can have AI agents collaborating with different kind of AI agents.
37:20By the end of the day, the human mind itself is a whole variety of AI agents in us.
37:27All right, so that is something and we are legacies of thousands of years.
37:34We sitting here are already winners.
37:36All right, we survived the ice age.
37:40All right, we survived thousands of years of, you know, what has happened on Earth.
37:45So our DNA, anyone that is watching this is a winner.
37:50And this winning DNA will continue to allow us to win through our innovation.
37:55So, of course, I think AI agents are going to change the world, but the winners are the ones that are going to use the AI agents the best.
38:02And you talk about, you know, is it the best.
38:07I would say it's more about human death, human relationship building.
38:12Right.
38:13How can we collaborate working together with London View, a media power, working with other exchanges, wallets, projects, collaborating,
38:24building a giant's empire together and making sure that everybody wins.
38:30And AI works for us.
38:33And we do have a very short timeframe and we are in control of our destiny.
38:40And that is why we have launched the AI agent and AI launchpad in a very short amount of time.
38:48We need to drive the leadership for the right intention to create more value for more people.
38:54That is the competition for the new power.
38:58Peter Thiel took a half a million dollars and turned it into a billion dollars using the exact same techniques we're using inside the investment club.
39:05He met a CEO, his name was Zuckerberg.
39:07He pitched him the deal and he said, okay, I'll give you a half a million dollars.
39:10Mark went public and sold the shares to people like you.
39:13Well, what happened to Peter?
39:14Well, he exited and got a 2300X return.
39:18The wealthy invest in early stage companies, folks.
39:21The public markets are for suckers.
39:23It's a rigged game.
39:24By the way, this happens in crypto as well.
39:26It's called pre-sale tokens.
39:27This is Solana.
39:28Does anybody know this chain?
39:29They sold pre-sale tokens for 4 cents and you can see the date on there.
39:34April 5th, 2018.
39:36Look at Solana today, folks.
39:38That thing's up over a thousand X.
39:41The media and Wall Street and all these hype people get you to buy the top.
39:45Meanwhile, they put their clients in at the bottom and they use you for liquidity to make their clients rich.
39:52You can play this same game.
39:54You just have to have the financial education and the deal flow.
39:57That's it.
39:58How powerful is it when you walk into these relationship meetings when you've got, you know, the government and country of Singapore behind you?
40:06You know, you're a guy that worked for their special forces for so many years.
40:11You're a guy that was asked to serve your country and take, you know, the financial system into Web 3.
40:17You've got backing by Sovereign Wealth.
40:19You've got the massive AI agency working with you.
40:23Is that pretty powerful when you're setting up new partnerships or walking in the room, whether it's VCs or, you know, other protocols or anybody you want to partner with?
40:32It is definitely powerful to have strong financial backing from the Singapore government.
40:38We are able to draw down 100 million, you know, in the next range.
40:42If we are able to deliver the milestones which we are on track.
40:45But I think at the end of the day, what is even more powerful is that we are able to deliver the execution.
40:54And that is my strength.
40:55Why I am invested by London Real, why invested by the Singapore government and other investors and other institutions is because of our execution ability.
41:06So my ability to lead and to execute is the key reasons that why people want to partner because time is limited, resources are limited, opportunities are limited.
41:16Everybody wants to win.
41:18Who do you want to fight alongside with to win?
41:21So I demonstrate that I'm able to execute like what we have done, whether is it with the Bitcoin ecosystem or the AI.
41:30So having that laser focus on the targets to execute.
41:36And we need to have a very open mind.
41:38The only thing that's stopping us from winning is ourself.
41:41And how are you able to execute so well?
41:44I mean, you obviously have a background in Web3, you have a background in tech, but you also have a background in combat.
41:52Do all of those things come together?
41:55I think it all distills now to one word belief.
41:58I was, or I am still a very average person, average kid growing up.
42:06I was the first guy, you know, my dad told me that it's impossible for me to get into the special forces.
42:12My dad served 43 years in the military.
42:14He's a paratroper.
42:15He told me it's impossible because I wear glasses, 400 degrees on each side.
42:21It's impossible back those days.
42:23But I believe in myself.
42:25And I became the first Singaporean with glasses to get into the special forces.
42:29And I got my eyes corrected.
42:31I was also lucky that there was this eye corrective surgery technology back in 2004 when they introduced, when I first entered the army.
42:40And with the resilience and the belief that I can do it, I think the universe will help you.
42:45So I always had this belief that I will win.
42:48Even though I may fail or I can have setbacks or I can lose, but I know eventually whether it's in sports, whether it's in the military, whether it's in business, I will win.
43:02As long as I don't die and I don't give up.
43:06Because people will support us as well.
43:10And I don't win by myself.
43:12I'm just a representation.
43:14For today's interview, I have a team of 10 people working through the last 36, 48 hours in the research to provide me with the insights, the data, the products.
43:26So I'm just representing the people to share the information.
43:32And I'm representing them to cross the finish line.
43:35But we cross the finish line together.
43:37And I lead the charge.
43:38I give them the belief that we will win.
43:41So I think I want to share one experience that I had.
43:46So all these are built up.
43:48Whether in sports, I was the captain of the first national championship winner that has not won in the last 19 years.
43:58Because I had the belief that we win, we won by a point.
44:02All right.
44:03I mean, there's a long story to that.
44:04U.S. Ranger, I shit in my pants.
44:06I almost died.
44:07All right.
44:08Everybody is all out to kill me.
44:09The Asian yellow face guy, you know, the enemy in the States, right?
44:13They don't care whether you're from Singapore.
44:15They just see you are Chinese.
44:16You are from China.
44:17All right.
44:18So how can I graduate from U.S. Ranger school?
44:20You're the only Chinese guy in a whole group of a bunch of redneck Americans going through Ranger school.
44:25Yes.
44:26And I believe I will pass.
44:27So all these build up, build up my confidence and my belief for bigger challenges.
44:32So all those are nothing, right?
44:34Because and now whatever we are going through, whether it is a crypto bear market or, you know, the red market, I believe that this is nothing because I'm going to achieve a lot more with the team, with the community.
44:46When I was in China, I initially made a lot of money, like $20 million in the first year.
44:55I was the first market mover in a fun run IP, zombie run, run for your life.
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