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Therapists research Australians with sleep patterns
ABC NEWS (Australia)
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4/27/2025
Sleep therapists and researchers are examining Australians hardwired to be up through the night and have mused they would have "tended the campfire while the tribe slept" in times past.
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Some people are definitely hardwired to be night owls, but that's a really small percentage
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of the population.
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Most of us actually, our body clocks actually change a little bit, and it depends on what
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we're doing and on our lifestyle.
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And definitely over the last few years, as people are spending more time on their phones
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and being up later, we're shifting our circadian rhythm, or our normal body clocks are starting
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to shift later.
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What tends to happen is our normal body clock isn't 24 hours.
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It's actually slightly longer than that at 24.2 hours for most of us, and in some people
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it's even longer than that, it can be even up to 24.5 hours.
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So in most of us, if we tend to stay up later and later, our body clocks will shift to be
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later and later.
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And so we're shifting our body clock to be up later and then getting up later in the
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morning.
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Is there any research behind why some people are hardwired to be up later?
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Well, some people are definitely more sensitive to light, so that's number one.
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And we obviously at night are spending more time in bright lights.
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They're also exposed to a lot of blue light with computers, phones and televisions.
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So there's a couple of different things why people are hardwired.
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But some people really are just hardwired to be slightly different, that their body clocks
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don't shift all that well.
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Is it possible to change your natural sleep patterns, do you think?
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In most people, yes it is.
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In most people we can change their body clocks.
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And you see it actually, I suppose with teenagers, they go to bed later and later and their body
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clocks shift.
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So you can, and then what we, when they actually, when school time starts and they have to start
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getting up earlier, we can slowly shift it back again.
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So in most people, yes, we can shift our body clock.
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In some, it isn't shiftable at all.
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And obviously some people are more sensitive to light.
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And so therefore, and they tend not to shift their body clocks very easily.
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How long would it take to try and shift your body clock?
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Say you're someone who is, tends to be up late at night, but wants to be the kind of person
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that gets up early in the morning, how, how long do you need to sort of get yourself into
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that routine before that becomes your, your sleep pattern?
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It does take a while.
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So if you want to shift your body, it's much easier to advance your body clock than it is
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to actually get it to go backwards.
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So, you know, it's a bit like jet lag, if you're going over to, if you're traveling
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eastward, you know that you, your body clock changes quite quickly with traveling over eastward.
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When you come back to Australia and traveling westward, we get terrible jet lag and things.
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So it does tend to take a while to shift your body clock, um, backwards, or what some people
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do is they stay up overnight, one night and just try and quickly, rapidly change their
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body clock so they're awake the next day.
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Are there any, um, particular periods, Linda, in your life where your natural rhythm changes?
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You mentioned earlier there, teenagers, like, is there some, is it a period of time when your
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body does sort of start to change its sleep pattern?
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I think shift workers tend to change their body patterns, particularly if you have one shift.
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So if you're always on night shift, um, you tend to change your body clock.
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Uh, teenagers tend to change their body clock quite easily.
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And then people who, um, don't have a set routine.
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So do, they can change their body clock quite quickly as well.
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So there are particular stages of life where, and I suppose students who are studying late,
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your body clock will shift in to adjust for those habits.
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So you definitely want to be able to change their body clock to that.
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