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Byron Donalds' Defense Of Trump Tariffs Elicits Jeers And Anger At Town Hall
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4/22/2025
At a town hall event on Monday, Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) was asked about green energy and tariffs.
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C.R. McClinton? C.R. McClinton? C.R.
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There we go. C.R.
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As an engineer and proud of Florida, scaling up utility grid solar.
00:11
It's technically a cost effective move given our solar capacity,
00:15
but recent federal tariffs and critical components like Inverters and Transformers are a rule of concern.
00:21
These are luxury items that are according to the grid stability and solar integration.
00:26
The costs go up, the supply chain will slow down, risk delays, reliability issues, and higher rates right here in Florida.
00:33
I ask you to advocate for targeted tariff relief so we can keep building modern resilient grid without penalizing taxpayers.
00:46
C.R. So first I'm going to talk to tariffs at large and then I'll talk about the solar panel aspects of the overall grid for me.
00:55
And actually some of the things that we have to prepare going forward in our state.
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Number one, I think the President's path with the Brexit tariffs is about resetting the relationship of global trade.
01:08
That's, I agree with you, my opinion.
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So, I'm going to talk to you, because everybody has an opinion.
01:14
My view of the President's agenda is to reset the global balance of trade.
01:19
For the last 70 years in the world, other countries have built their economies based upon the back of the American economy.
01:27
We have lost manufacturing in the United States to other countries.
01:31
And I did not agree with multinational group manufacturing offshore.
01:35
I did not agree with that.
01:36
But they did that because we allowed for lapsed trade policies.
01:40
And even worse, we didn't even enforce the trade agreements we have.
01:44
We would let other nations abuse it, cheat it, etc.
01:48
And I don't agree with that.
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So what the President is doing when it comes to trade writ large,
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is he is trying to reset the balance in global trade to make sure America is on an even plane field.
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And that's somebody, and that's somebody who does know to do free trade.
02:03
I believe in free trade.
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But I would ask everybody in the room, can you have free trade if the party on the other side is not playing fair?
02:13
You cannot have free trade.
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So I think in the room right now, the task is important to reset the balance of global trade.
02:20
Now, specific to solar panels.
02:22
My concern with solar panels is in part the panels themselves,
02:26
but then also the batteries, the battery space and battery capacity,
02:30
you have to bring in order for these solar arrays to be able to work and retain power.
02:35
That is a fact.
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And so what's happening right now, in our state,
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is because a lot of more traditional power generation has been,
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I want to say marginalized by the regulatory environment.
02:49
I'm talking about coal, clean coal, oil, gas, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear.
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Are we allowed to talk about all the forms of power generation, or is that good to you?
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I'm just trying to ask.
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Can we have an intellectually honest conversation about power generation?
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Power generation is not Republican or Democrat folks.
03:16
Power generation is not liberal or conservative.
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Power generation is power generation.
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And we need base load power, not just in Florida, but in the United States,
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if we're to keep pace with China and every other nation on the planet.
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That's a fact.
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Let's talk about power generation for a moment.
03:36
The Chinese are not building solar panels.
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The Chinese are building nuclear reactors, and they're building coal-fired power plants.
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That's what they're doing.
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The French, our friends in France, are not building solar panels.
03:53
They go back to nuclear reactors.
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That's what the French have gone back to.
03:59
That's what they are friends in Germany.
04:01
The Germans are going back to that gas and nuclear power.
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Because what they've realized is solar arrays, to the point of your question,
04:09
does not provide enough base load power for what people need.
04:14
That is the truth.
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Especially when you factor in the fact that we have AI on the horizon.
04:21
Server farms are here.
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Data centers are here.
04:26
Cryptocurrency digital assets are on the way.
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You need base load power.
04:31
This serves to your question about solar.
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My concern with solar.
04:35
My concern with solar.
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Is that it doesn't provide enough base load power for the future of Florida's needs.
04:41
That is my concern.
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Secondarily, when you look at the life cycle of solar.
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From mining to when you have to get rid of the panels and you bury them in landfills.
04:54
Is that because a solar panel of solar doesn't last forever.
04:58
It doesn't last forever, sir.
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Do you act, sir?
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Relax now.
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I indulged you earlier, sir.
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Relax.
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I'm trying to answer the question.
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Now.
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The issue with solar is, when you take into account the entire life cycle.
05:14
It is dirtier than nuclear power.
05:17
That is a fact.
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It is dirtier than nuclear power.
05:22
If you were going to ask me why I think the future of Florida's grid, or quite frankly,
05:26
the grid of the United States, it is with small modular reactors, micro reactors, and
05:31
new reactors to create a much deeper bench of basal power for the United States.
05:36
And for people who are concerned about nuclear waste, because I know there are people who
05:39
are concerned about nuclear waste.
05:41
The new technology in reactors, in small modular reactors, allows you to go into the upper
05:48
mountain, and to go into the other repositories we have, around spent nuclear fuel rods, and
05:54
you can re-enrich those rods and use them in reactors.
05:58
You are essentially recycling old nuclear, old nuclear fuel rods, using them for energy
06:03
generation today.
06:04
That is a lift now.
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That is a lift now.
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That is a lift now.
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So, for short, my concerns with solar arrays are, when you take into account the mining of
06:11
the necessary elements for batteries, and the panels themselves, coupled with the actual
06:13
generation of solar.
06:14
If your desire is to save the planet, and you think that climate change must be solved,
06:29
I will tell you that that is pretty clear.
06:31
We should be moving to nuclear in a way for solar.
06:35
Oh, my gosh.
06:36
Thank you, you.
06:38
I want to make this like Catherine Poe.
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