Would LSU's Will Campbell be a "wasted pick"?

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Wiggy doesn't think drafting OL will help Drake Maye. Would LSU's Will Campbell be a "wasted pick"? Should #Patriots go Jeanty/Warren instead?

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00:00So only two sleeps away, Wiggy, from the draft.

00:03And I was kind of thinking about this.

00:06I did a little research, and Chime and I were probably on the same page with this,

00:12but I'm even a step further.

00:13I don't think drafting a tackle is going to help Drake May, an offensive lineman.

00:20Because let me tell you why.

00:22I think it's more valuable to draft a positional player that he will actually,

00:27especially with the fourth overall pick or if you trade down to the seventh overall pick

00:33or whatever it is, if you're picking in the top ten,

00:35I think it's more valuable to draft a positional player that a rookie quarterback

00:40will get more help from than an offensive lineman.

00:44You look at last year, for example, offensive lineman Joe Walt went to the Chargers.

00:49One of the biggest issues that the Chargers had, they had an issue with their passing game.

00:54A couple years ago, the Arizona Cardinals took an offensive lineman in the top ten.

01:00What did they do last year?

01:01They went out and got Marvin Harrison.

01:03So if you're the New England Patriots and you're sitting there at number four,

01:07whether you want to go Ashton Genthy, I want to go because I think he's the best player available.

01:14I want to go Tyler Warren.

01:16You look at what the Raiders were last year.

01:18Nothing until they got Brock Bowers tight end from the University of Georgia

01:23and what he was ultimately able to do.

01:25If you just look, here are just some names from the 2023.

01:32No, I'm going to go to the 2024 draft.

01:34I'm sorry, Greg.

01:35Here are just some names, right?

01:36So when you think about Malik Neighbors, wide receiver, New York Giants,

01:40and what he was able to do for that type of team.

01:45I just feel like if you're the New England Patriots,

01:50your biggest need right now is offensive skill position.

01:55An offensive lineman does not help Drake May when you waste the top ten pick on him.

02:02The offensive line has been an issue for quite some time, though.

02:09But when it comes to where Drake ranked when it comes to the amount of times he was sacked last year,

02:13like, yeah, he was under pressure some, but overall he was sacked 34 times in the season.

02:19And that O-line was terrible.

02:21Yeah, and that's not a lot.

02:22So that's a guy that was able to get out of problem situations.

02:25So adding in, I'm with Wiggy.

02:27So it's a wasted pick?

02:29I think it would be.

02:30Will Campbell, in your mind, is a wasted pick at number four.

02:32Yeah, look at, this is the 2020, and this is where I want to go.

02:35This is the 2023 draft.

02:37Pick 20, 21, 22, and 23.

02:41Four wide receivers back-to-back.

02:44Jackson, Smith, and Jigba.

02:46We know what he does out in Seattle.

02:47Really good wide receiver.

02:50Quinton Johnson from the Chargers.

02:53Zay Flowers, BC, and what he was able to do for the Baltimore Ravens.

02:59And 23, Jordan Addison for the Minnesota Vikings.

03:02And he's been relatively good for them.

03:05I know he's dealt with some injuries.

03:06I just look at, if you have the fourth overall pick,

03:10Will Campbell might be good.

03:12And I'm not saying he won't be good.

03:13But if you hit on Tyler Warren, Ashton Gentry.

03:18I know Shime has Tetaro and McMillan.

03:22If you hit on one of those guys at number four,

03:26Drake May will get a lot more from them than he would from hitting on Will Campbell.

03:32978 text on the Subaru of New England text line.

03:35Is Wiggy high this morning?

03:37No, I'm not high.

03:37Yes, yes.

03:38The answer is always yes.

03:40But an offensive line isn't going to help a second-year quarterback,

03:44or any quarterback for that matter, LOL.

03:46When you're in a position right now where you have the fourth overall pick,

03:50you can get an offensive lineman in the second round.

03:54Even if you move down, you could get two offensive linemen in the second round.

03:58If you hit on your top ten pick who's a skilled player,

04:03that player is going to help out a lot more than you wasted.

04:07Because let's say you do draft Will Campbell, and he's really good.

04:11And who's Drake May throwing to him?

04:15Also, by the way, that 34-sack number has to be adjusted

04:19because he only played – what did he play, 10 games?

04:22Drake May.

04:23No, did he play 10 games?

04:26All right, so even if – I bet if you added it up,

04:30even with Jacoby Myers, if you added up where they were in sacks,

04:35I bet they weren't the worst team in the NFL.

04:38I probably bet they were middle of the pack, maybe 17.

04:40The point that I'm trying to say is that even if Will Campbell's good,

04:47who's Drake May throwing the football to?

04:50Well, you're hoping that Steph Diggs is Steph Diggs, right?

04:54Yeah, but he has to be healthy.

04:55He has to be healthy.

04:56He's going to be healthy for week one.

04:57Yeah, but that's – Greg, that's running routes against the L.

05:00We don't know that.

05:01We know he's – and Chime brings up a great point.

05:03We know he's not going to be ready come week one.

05:05So you probably won't see Steph Diggs to what, week six, seven, or eight?

05:08If you hit – and I know Chime's an Ashton Genthy guy,

05:13but if you hit on a guy like Ashton Genthy,

05:15it turns out to be like a B. John Robinson.

05:19And I'm seeing that he played in 13.

05:21So he started 12 games, played in 13.

05:25Right, but I guarantee if you looked at collectively the number of sacks

05:29that the Patriots O-line gave up all season long,

05:31I bet that's probably 17, 18, 19, somewhere in that area.

05:36And I'm not saying Will Campbell's not going to be good.

05:39I just know from being in the NFL and seeing it that if you get a skill player

05:47to be elite and you have an elite offensive lineman,

05:50that skill player usually at the end of the day is more valuable in the sense

05:56of helping you win games than that tackle is.

05:59Normally I would be totally against Wiggy here because I do believe

06:03that the trenches matter, but this draft class is different.

06:07Like if Joe Alt was on the board, I would say take Joe Alt, number four,

06:11and don't even hesitate.

06:12But because it's Will Campbell, I just – I don't feel that way about Campbell.

06:16I don't think Campbell's worth a top five pick.

06:18I just don't.

06:19And I don't think there's any offensive lineman in this draft

06:21that's worth a top five pick.

06:22So in this draft in particular, I think Wiggy's right.

06:25I think getting a skill player, whether it's Ashton Gentry,

06:28Tett McMillan, Tyler Warren.

06:29If you take Gentry, who's blocking for him?

06:31Well, then you take Ozzy Trapillo in the second round of BC.

06:35You take Ariante Urseri out of Minnesota in the second round.

06:38Like there's other guys that I think will be as good as Will Campbell

06:42that you can get late first round, early second round.

06:45And Chime, and I like – I agree with Chime.

06:48Like a Joe Walt, they talked about as being potentially, you know,

06:53like a generational tackle.

06:55All right.

06:56Like Joe Thomas level.

06:57Yeah.

06:57But even with Joe Thomas, when Cleveland drafted him,

07:00he was an unbelievable – you know, Hall of Fame left tackle.

07:04But Cleveland wasn't good because they lacked a skill position.

07:07I feel like if you're going to – and believe me, the trenches matter.

07:12But if you're going to sacrifice a little bit, I would much rather try to draft

07:18an offensive lineman in the second round and shoot for the moon with a skill

07:23player –

07:24At number four.

07:25And stay at number four even though this draft quality-wise is not what you

07:30would like – what you wish it was.

07:32Right.

07:33Because if you get Saquon Barkley or Jamar Chase, you're in a way better spot

07:36than if you get, you know, Penny Sewell.

07:38Yeah.

07:38And that's the point that I – and that's why I think Vrabel and the

07:42Patriots, yeah, you're helping – don't get it twisted.

07:47Like, you're helping Drake May, but you could be helping him so much more if you

07:52go, all right, we'll take Genthy, we'll take Tyler Warren because we can always

07:57pick up some linemen in the second round.

07:59This is Nate.

08:00Nate, what's up?

08:03Hey, what's going on, guys?

08:04Hey.

08:05Hey, Wiggy, you're right, bud.

08:06I mean, they're already talking about this draft is just not that draft.

08:10They're talking about Cam Ward.

08:11If he was in last year's draft, he'd be the seventh quarterback coming out.

08:15Like, you have to get that impact guy.

08:18Campbell, they're already talking about if they draft him as a tackle this year,

08:21next year they're going to kick him out to guard like Brandon Coleman with the

08:24commanders.

08:25That's a wasted pick.

08:27You've got to get the top guy in their position, be it Tyler Warren, be it

08:31Austin Denti, or even Jalen Walker.

08:33We need five guys, impact guys, out of this draft.

08:39They've been saying it the whole time.

08:41All these years, we have not hit on our draft picks, except for, like, Drake

08:46Ming, you know what I mean?

08:47But he landed in our lap.

08:49We need impact guys to come in and impact this team.

08:53We have too many holes to fill.

08:55You need that Pro Bowl or All-Pro guy to come in.

08:57When was the last time we had a Pro Bowl or All-Pro guy?

09:01A long time.

09:01It's been a while.

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