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'Throw It In The Garbage': Glenn Grothman Rails Against The 'DEI Ideology'
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4/17/2025
In remarks on the House floor before the Congressional recess, Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) spoke about DEI policies.
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Mr. Grothman is recognized for 60 minutes as a designee of the majority party. You're recognized.
00:06
Thank you. Well, after returning from our district, it's time to bring to the chair's attention
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a variety of issues which we've come across over the weekend and issues that the minority party
00:20
has brought up. The first issue I want to bring up is that regarding DEI. DEI, or affirmative
00:30
action, has been a big part of America's landscape over the last 60 years, and it's not something
00:38
that's going to go away overnight. President Trump can do what he can to wipe out this odious
00:45
philosophy, but nevertheless, it's important for us to educate the young people in this
00:52
country as to why it is so odious. It is based on the premise that what you accomplish in
01:02
this country or what you should be given in this country is based on your ancestry or your
01:10
gender. It's based on the idea, or was I think largely thought up by a guy by the name of
01:19
Herbert Marcus in the early 70s, that we can destroy America by dividing it by ethnic group
01:27
or dividing it by gender. Prior to this time, and he was a genuine communist sort of person,
01:35
but prior to this time, people who wanted to destroy this country thought they could divide
01:40
it by income, and they thought they could make everybody very mad and jealous of very successful
01:48
interests, very successful people, and tear down America by doing that. They tried in the
01:55
60s, there was bombings, there were anti-Vietnam protests, but they failed to bring down America,
02:04
because Americans themselves are hardworking, and they realized a middle class lifestyle in
02:09
America would be like a wildly wealthy lifestyle everywhere else in the world. So they failed.
02:17
So they felt, well, let's educate our so-called minority people that America is a horrible country,
02:26
and you're being held down because you're not a white male.
02:31
President Trump, President Biden made it clear that he was somewhat hostile to white males.
02:37
Well, the first thing we can do to prove that it's not true, and every child ought to know
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it so they aren't corrupted by these DEI professionals that our colleges and universities are spitting
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out in this horrible ideology our young people are educated into, is you, as I was reminded again,
02:56
going back to my district, I met with a group of Ahmadiyya Muslims from Pakistan. Now here's a group that
03:06
didn't come from Europe, they aren't Christian, but nevertheless they succeed, they have a mosque in
03:13
Oshkosh, Wisconsin in my district, and they are obviously succeeding very well. They have strong families,
03:21
they have a good work ethic, and if America were Eurocentric, as they say, they would not be succeeding
03:29
so successfully. I've also seen the same thing with Hmong in my district. I have a substantial Hmong population
03:37
from Laos. These people came to America and didn't even know English when they were children. But nevertheless,
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they come here, they all own houses, their children are doing well, their families are strong, again,
03:52
despite the fact that they are not of European descent. Indeed, if you look at statistics that are put out
04:01
there by the Census Bureau, if we look at different ethnic groups from around the globe, we find the easily,
04:09
the most successful group is people who came here from India. Another group that didn't even necessarily
04:15
know English when we got here, Indian Americans make far more than the average Americans. Indeed,
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they make almost twice as much as the average European American. Other groups that just do
04:27
tremendously well, the Taiwanese, the Filipinos, the Cubans, people who come here from the East Indies,
04:38
from the West Indies, all doing far better than the native born despite the fact that they are not of
04:47
European heritage. So, if anybody knows anybody who has been corrupted by this wicked ideology that implies
04:58
that America, you can't succeed unless you're a white European, look at the facts. Look how people come here
05:05
and succeed again and again and again and again. And I would hope you would realize by looking at these
05:13
facts that you should throw the DEI ideology which is being taught to our college kids, in some cases
05:22
taught to our high school and middle school kids, throw it in the garbage. And remember, a communist guy the
05:29
name of Herbert Murkus who thought up this stuff in the 70s and 80s, remember the reason they adopted the
05:37
DEI ideology is because they wanted to destroy America. They wanted to set people from one continent against
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another continent. Remember the statistics of how well people do here and make sure that our next generation
05:52
is not polluted is not polluted by this because we have way too many people floating around this country
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that have got a certificate in DEI or a major in DEI and they are up to no good.
06:07
Another thing to mention here is with regard to immigration. President Trump is trying to enforce
06:16
the law. I think one of the difficult problems he was dealt with is we just got done with a president
06:24
that did all he could to ignore our immigration laws and as the result we took about 10 million people
06:32
here in the last four years that are not something that we should have. Now what can we tell the people
06:41
who feel we're being unnecessarily cruel? Every year in this country about 850,000 people are naturalized.
06:52
They are sworn in to become American citizens. I like to show up at these ceremonies. They have them
06:57
in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I try to show up at one or two a year and it's kind of thrilling to watch people
07:04
from all over the globe. A lot of them already have good jobs. A lot of them already have their own
07:09
businesses as they're sworn in as American citizens. When you took it in three-year increments, they're
07:14
always one year or another year as an outlier, but when you look in three-year increments that 850,000
07:20
over the last three years is the most people that we have taken in as far as I can tell in this country's
07:27
history. When I was growing up the number of naturalized people every year was about 200,000.
07:32
We're now over four times that amount. Nevertheless, there are people who are going to go out there to
07:40
try to divide us who say that we're not letting people come here from abroad, that we're being cruel.
07:46
850,000 people. Something to remember. And that's before you get all the people coming here on work
07:53
visas. You get all the people coming here on tourist visas. You get all the people coming here on student
08:00
visas. One just has to look around and realize that the idea that we are being cruel to people
08:08
who came here across our southern border is ridiculous. Many people are coming here. Obviously,
08:20
if we are going to enforce the law, we have to remove the people who came here by pretending they needed
08:26
asylum and didn't. And that is going to be millions of people and the same people that encouraged them
08:31
to come here knowing full well they were breaking the law or having to lie about needing asylum to come
08:38
here. The people who caused the mess are going to say it's horrible to remove these people. But our
08:43
President Trump is going to have to step up the plate, undo the damage done by the last administration,
08:50
and he is going to remove many, many of these people. And one has to remember the reason he's removing them
08:58
is because the prior administration, with a lot of encouragement from people on the other side of the
09:03
aisle, were bringing people here who were coming here on false pretenses.
09:11
The next issue we have to look at is one that I do hope is included in Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill,
09:24
and what I think is the biggest crisis facing America today. In a free country, and John Adams said,
09:36
our country is built for a moral, God-fearing country. In a free country, families have to be strong,
09:48
and families have to be self-reliant. Beginning in the 1960s in this country, we had a massive increase
09:58
increase in subsidies which ignored a family with a mother and father at home. In the 1950s, about 4% of
10:09
the children born in this country were born without a mother and father at home. Within the next 30 years,
10:18
after Lyndon Johnson and the Great Society, that 4% increased to over 40%. And with it, many other problems
10:27
came with it. Why did that happen? It happened because right now we have approximately 90 programs
10:36
that you are not eligible for if you are not in poverty. In other words, if you have a mother or a
10:42
father at home making $40,000, $50,000 a year, you would not get these programs. These programs are familiar
10:51
to all of us. Earned income tax credit, what I think is the most damaging, the low-income housing programs,
10:58
the health care programs, the food stamp programs, the Pell grants. Program after program you get,
11:09
but you would lose if you had both parents in a home. It is not surprising, and nobody takes advantage of
11:17
all 90 programs. But I think it is probably not unusual to have people take advantage of six or seven
11:22
programs. And then it would not be unusual in which people who have a mother and father at home
11:30
are penalized over $20,000 a year if they get married. We have to look at these programs,
11:39
and frequently these programs materially put the married couple at a disadvantage. We all heard of
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stories of food share. If you talk to people at the local convenience store, talk to people at the local
11:56
grocery store, that people who are taking advantage of these programs may be able to buy
12:03
food items that the person who is working behind the counter can't afford. We know when it comes to
12:11
housing that there are section 42 tax credit housing, which is a screwed up program for many reasons,
12:18
but it is aimed at lower income people. The developers are incentivized to make these projects as nice as
12:27
possible, such that when I had a staffer who got married in Wisconsin, they said, Glenn, me and my
12:35
husband are looking for a place to live after they got married, and the nicest places are all low-income
12:42
housing. Well, that doesn't seem to make any sense, unless you look at it again as certain people are out
12:50
there trying to destroy the nuclear family and trying to discourage people from entering into that sort of
13:00
relationship. Same thing is true of, and we need health care for everyone, but same thing is true of
13:08
health care, in which you don't have the big deductibles that you have when people get their health care
13:14
from working in the private sector. You might have a $10,000 or $15,000 deductible. You don't get a
13:20
deductible like that if you're on the government. So same thing is true with Pell Grants. A woman came up to
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me and said, you know, me and my husband got married. We don't have enough money to help our daughter go
13:32
through college, so she had to take out a lot of student loans. My sibling is not working, and her daughter
13:45
got free grants from the government, grants she wouldn't have got if she was married. Again,
13:50
is that a good thing? I'm not sure it is, but again and again, program after program, we discourage the
13:56
nuclear family, and that's why we've gone from a 4% rate of kids born without a mother and father at
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home to 40%. It's like it was by design. It's like somebody wanted to destroy the nuclear family. It's
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important to remember, though we may individually not know these people, but there have always been
14:17
people who wanted to destroy the nuclear family and feel that that's the key to bringing down America.
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Okay? Certainly the Marxists wanted to destroy the nuclear family until they took it off their
14:29
website. A more recent group, Black Lives Matter, was overtly anti-family. The feminist extremists in the
14:37
studies, Kate Millett being the prominent one, you could call her the mother of women's studies,
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were very anti-nuclear family. And these anti-nuclear family people got the upper hand,
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and that's why we have gone from about 4% to over 40%. So I hope, as the people in this body put together
14:59
their great beautiful bill, that we remember that a lot of the programs in our current budget
15:06
are programs designed to destroy the nuclear family. Two other quick comments.
15:16
One with regard to transgender in local schools. A lot of people have talked about men and women's
15:22
sports. And I don't even think that's the biggest scandal. I think the biggest scandal is that we
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are educating our young people to adapt a transgender lifestyle. In Europe, when they backed off on
15:37
pushing this lifestyle, the lifestyle not exclusively, but largely disappeared. In other words, we have
15:44
made it cool by what they do in Hollywood, promoting this lifestyle, sadly in the schools promoting this
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lifestyle. I'll mention again my own anecdotes. When I was campaigning last year, running to a couple
16:00
grandmothers whose children were going down this transgender route, broke their heart. And they
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wondered why this had to happen, because it wasn't something I saw when I was a child. It happened
16:11
because our education system and our popular culture promote this lifestyle. And it's a good thing
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if President Trump tries to get this stuff out of our institutes of public instruction.
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You know, I think it's really too bad if people feel it's cool to adapt this lifestyle.
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So it's something for us to remember, and hopefully we'll be having hearings on this topic
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as we delve into whether people would adapt this lifestyle in the first place if there weren't so
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many powerful special interests that encourage people to adapt this lifestyle.
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Now my final, when we come to our big beautiful bill, a lot of it is going to have to do with taxes.
16:58
And I want to stand with President Trump on some of his items here that he's brought up in the past and
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some of the reasons I like him. President Trump is not afraid to stand up to the special interests
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that seem to be so persuasive in this chamber. First of all, even though a lot of the money is
17:16
already out the door, President Trump came up against the CHIPS bill. The CHIPS bill was a public-private
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partnership, I guess you should call it. And whenever you hear about a public-private partnership,
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I think you've got to hold on to your wallet because that means a private sector group wants some
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government money. The CHIPS bill to encourage more semiconductor manufacturing in the United States,
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and I think we do have to encourage more semiconductor manufacturing, but it cost about $280 billion.
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That's about $700 for every man, woman, and child in the country. Does anybody really believe
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that the federal government should be grabbed $700 from everybody just to promote one industry? I think
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we could promote that industry with a much smaller amount. If we deal with some exemptions for
18:11
manufacturing I'm going to talk about in a second, that would be another way to bring more semiconductor
18:18
manufacturing in this country. But I strongly believe with President Trump that a $700 per person
18:25
in this country subsidy of the semiconductor industry is unnecessary. The next thing I'll bring
18:32
up is the carried interest treatment for hedge fund managers. Under the carried interest loophole,
18:44
you might call it, people whose primary income is derived from being entitled to some of the money they
18:56
make their investors is taxed at capital gains rates rather than regular rates. In other words, people
19:03
who are investing other people's money and making frequently millions of dollars a year are taxed at
19:14
a much lower rate than people who are welders, people who are nurses, people who make their money any other
19:21
way. President Trump came out against the carried interest loophole when he ran for president in 2016. He
19:28
wasn't able to get rid of it at that time. But I hope this time that our Ways and Means Committee together
19:35
with President Trump stops taxing these wildly wealthy people at a lower tax rate than what the average guy or
19:46
woman is making in this country is making in this country. Another good thing to do. The final tax provision
19:54
that I'll point out is President Trump has floated the idea of having a lower tax rate for manufacturing
20:02
than other industries. I applaud him for that. To be a great country, you have to make things. You're not a wealthy
20:09
country because you have a lot of law firms. You're not a wealthy country because you have a lot of advertising agencies.
20:16
You're a wealthy country because you make things. And our manufacturers, unlike some of these other industries,
20:23
have to compete against companies abroad. So when these big multinational corporations have to decide,
20:33
am I going to set up shop in Germany or Korea or Brazil or India or wherever,
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we want it to be favorable to set up shop tax wise in the United States. And I therefore do believe that
20:51
when the final tax rates are laid out by the Ways and Means Committee, I would like to see lower rates
20:58
for manufacturers who, after all, are responsible for producing the wealth in this country.
21:06
It's something I pursued in my own personal career. We got a nice low tax rate for Wisconsin
21:11
manufacturers. But we'd like to see a lower rate for manufacturers in the United States and
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these other countries. And if we are going to be a great country, not only do we need stronger families
21:23
and stop penalizing these countries, not only do we have to stop educating our poor young people that
21:33
are a racist country. But to be a great country, we need a strong manufacturing base. We want it to be
21:39
preferable to manufacture stuff in the United States than in Europe or Asia or South America.
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And the way to do that is a lower tax rate for manufactured items.
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So I'd like to thank the chair for paying rapt attention to all of the
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comments I have made here tonight. And I hope my colleagues, as they put together the big,
22:09
beautiful bill, take them to heart. Stop penalizing the nuclear family. Start treating manufacturing,
22:19
especially the way it should be. Crack down on special tax provisions that benefit the very wealthy.
22:28
Thank you very much.
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