"Is PTI Founder’s Narrative Being Silenced? Government Member’s Statement

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00:00Let's start with you. What is the need for restrictions? They go. If there is to be a meeting or not, the decision has to be taken.

00:07What is the need for you to come out and have a political discussion?

00:11And if a person does not come out of Diyala to talk, he comes and talks in Islamabad, in Pressur.

00:17So, what is the qualitative difference? Either you don't do it there or you don't do it there.

00:22Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim. Mr. Malik, thank you very much.

00:25Look, the biggest thing in my opinion, I think the court also recognises and realises,

00:32the propaganda that is sold as a lie, that today Khan said this, today Khan ate this,

00:40today Khan did this, scolded him, insulted him, today Khan gave this political statement, and so on and so forth.

00:48Now, the thing is that my brother has also done many press conferences there.

00:53When he used to go there as a lawyer, he used to meet them.

00:57After that, I will take their guarantee that they will not talk beyond the black and white.

01:04But whatever you see, take it from the family members and start.

01:08And others, you are on all the tiers.

01:11Look, Salman Akram Raja is saying that there is no restriction on the family.

01:14No, I think that the meetings, it has not been said that if a lawyer goes and meets, then the lawyer cannot talk.

01:20It is across the board. Whoever goes in, then cannot come back.

01:25And outside Adiala, there is a propaganda, a lie, and beyond the black and white.

01:30Because he said, I will tell you what he tweeted,

01:33Outside Adiala Jail, it is necessary to have an immediate conversation,

01:36or to get rid of these meetings with Imran Khan, which could not be done since October.

01:39That basically we have compromised.

01:41The statements are not an immediate reaction.

01:43The Senate and the National Assembly are present.

01:45The press conference is somewhere, or a conversation on TV, everything is possible.

01:49We are not living in an exemplary environment.

01:51There is no restriction on the sisters.

01:53Look, there will be an order, there will be clarity in the order.

01:57And it is across the board that you will not press outside the premises of Adiala.

02:01Sitting on TV, every night, my brother is also applying medicine.

02:06If you are saying that you are selling fake churna,

02:11and it is spreading in the country,

02:13then what difference does it make from churna,

02:15if you are letting them sell in Islamabad, then let them sell at Adiala's gate.

02:19Or not sell there, or not sell there, if you want to sell, sell at both places.

02:23What difference will this 10 miles make? Why this?

02:26Look, there is a distinction in this, because it is a fresh work.

02:29He is standing outside the right meeting,

02:32and he is doing all those things there.

02:34Hot, hot, hot.

02:36So, I think we should avoid that hot, hot.

02:38We will sit on TV at night, and I am sure TV programs will be discussed again.

02:42The same topics will be discussed.

02:44The condition of the meeting will also be asked.

02:46I think there is no such thing in it.

02:48There are three or four tweets of Salman Akram Raja,

02:50it seems that he has made a very grudging compromise.

02:53He said, look, it is necessary to talk outside the Adiala jail,

02:56or his meetings with Imran Khan were not held in October.

02:59He has a lot of weight in that argument.

03:01If he has made this condition, then he has made it.

03:04A lot of people think that you people are scared these days.

03:07All the leadership is going to JIT.

03:09That day, Ilyama Khan also went,

03:11he has spent 4-5 hours there.

03:13Sometimes cars go there,

03:15even on Salman's road, and big people go there.

03:17Have you kept this?

03:19Is the revolution over?

03:21No, look.

03:23Instead of Ijtihad, the protest has started.

03:26No, the revolution was over when he was in leadership.

03:29Our workers have kept him alive.

03:31On 4th October, on 26th November,

03:33the workers came and led.

03:35Bushra Bibi, Banerjee, Shatimi, our workers.

03:38They could not show their leadership,

03:40leaving one or two exceptions.

03:42The issue is that it is a war of narratives.

03:45And you saw Imran Khan's narrative

03:47is always ahead of his political opponents.

03:50Whether he is in jail or outside,

03:52because I have also been the contributor.

03:55He said that we have to do this,

03:58so I have narrated it.

04:00So, his narrative,

04:02if it does not come out,

04:04then you will be in these communicators.

04:07So, this is important.

04:09The question you just raised,

04:11is this a general order?

04:15I have asked the court reporters.

04:17The court reporters have told me

04:19that this is a general order.

04:21Exceptions have not been created.

04:23Meaning, if exceptions have not been created,

04:25then whoever will meet me,

04:27or other friends,

04:29they will not be able to talk.

04:31So, if this is a general order,

04:33and the court has forgotten to mention

04:35that whoever will meet,

04:37they will not be able to come

04:39and have a political conversation.

04:41Then your circle will be in permanent silence.

04:44Then you will not be able to

04:46press in Islamabad.

04:48Is there such a plan?

04:50We have no such plan.

04:52Would you be surprised

04:54if the decision of the relationship is made?

04:56I don't think such a decision will be made.

04:58I think the pressure outside Adyala,

05:00which is misguided pressure,

05:02which hogs the TV screens,

05:04sometimes it is Aleema Sahiba,

05:06sometimes it is my brother,

05:08sometimes it is Salman Akram Rai,

05:10then X, Y, Z, whatever the leadership

05:12of the party is,

05:14they come and sell their own lies,

05:16and this is the most important thing.

05:18That day I passed by,

05:20Salman Akram Rai is standing,

05:22and Indizar Panjoda is standing,

05:24when he was doing his presser,

05:26he had his own alarming situation

05:28or expressions,

05:30that what is he doing,

05:32what is he talking about.

05:34That is your assumption.

05:36It is not an assumption,

05:38it can be seen,

05:40facial expressions.

05:42Tell me, why do you believe?

05:44Didn't this discussion take place?

05:46I think sometimes

05:48you have to do it spontaneously.

05:50Obviously Salman is a senior lawyer.

05:52What impact will it have

05:54if you come to Islamabad

05:56after 15 minutes?

05:58Sir, this is very confusing.

06:00I don't think that knowing

06:02your situation in the court,

06:04see this is a political case,

06:06these are not legal cases.

06:08That is why you saw

06:10that all the petitions

06:12went to the larger bench.

06:14Now if a blanket order comes

06:16to the larger bench,

06:18then it will be a very

06:20severe order.

06:22The narrative that comes

06:24on the social media,

06:26the tweets that Aleema Khan

06:28does, are in her own words.

06:30So in her own words,

06:32her expression,

06:34her statement,

06:36has an effect on the political

06:38workers, on the party.

06:40That effect will not be in

06:42anyone else's tweets or pressers.

06:44So what Aleema Khan does,

06:46it will be a serious blow.

06:48As far as I am concerned,

06:50in my personal opinion.

06:52Because she talks there,

06:54and then you see,

06:56there is a complete science behind it.

06:58Earlier it was the impression

07:00that your party has been choked.

07:02Now it is the impression that

07:04your narrative is being choked.

07:06See, what you said in the beginning,

07:08that is very important.

07:10Part and parcel.

07:12Death by a thousand cuts.

07:14Yes.

07:16You banned Imran Khan's

07:18picture, you banned his name,

07:20you banned his voice,

07:22one day the picture came out

07:24of the Supreme Court.

07:26Now if you ban his statement,

07:28then this is unacceptable.

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