"If the Founder’s Narrative is Banned, It Will Be Unacceptable" Faisal Chaudhry's Important Statement

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00:00No, leadership, the revolution was already over, it was our workers who kept it alive.

00:05On 4th October, 26th November, the workers came and led.

00:09Pushpa Bibi, Banded Dada, Shatimi, our workers.

00:13Leadership could not show up, except for one or two exceptions.

00:16Okay, sir, the issue is that it's a war of narratives.

00:20And you saw Imran Khan's narrative is always ahead of his political opponents.

00:24Whether he is in jail or outside, because I also, I have been the contributor

00:29and I narrated it.

00:33So, his narrative, if it doesn't come out, then you will be in these communicators.

00:40So, this is important.

00:43The question you just raised, is this a general order?

00:49I have asked the court reporters.

00:51So, the court reporters have told me that this is a general order.

00:55Exceptions have not been created.

00:57Meaning, if exceptions have not been created, then whoever will meet me,

01:01or other friends, they will not be able to talk.

01:05So, if this is a general order, and the judge forgot to write a statement,

01:09and it came that whatever meetings will take place,

01:12after that you will not be able to have a political conversation,

01:15then your circle will be permanently silenced.

01:19Then you will not be able to pressurize Islamabad.

01:21Definitely, I think that…

01:22Is there such a plan?

01:23It doesn't make any sense.

01:24We don't have any such plan.

01:26Would you be surprised if such a decision comes?

01:29I don't think such a decision will come.

01:31I think the pressure outside Adyala, which is misguided pressure,

01:34which hogs the TV screens.

01:37Sometimes Aleema Sahiba is doing it, sometimes my brother is doing it,

01:40sometimes Salman Akram Rai Sahab is doing it.

01:42Then, X, Y, Z, whoever is the party's leadership,

01:45they come and sell their own lies.

01:49And the most important thing in this is,

01:51that day I saw that Salman Akram Rai Sahab is standing,

01:54he is talking, and with him is Indizar Panjoda Sahab.

01:57When they were doing the pressurization,

02:00they also had their own alarming situation or expressions,

02:04on that whole thing, that what are they doing, what are they talking about.

02:07So, moving away from the black and white…

02:09No, that is your assumption.

02:11No, it is not an assumption, it is visible.

02:13Facial expressions.

02:14Tell me this, why do you believe this?

02:18This has never been discussed before,

02:21and I think sometimes you have to do it spontaneously.

02:25Obviously, Salman is a senior lawyer.

02:28What will be the impact of this, if after 15 minutes,

02:31you come to Islamabad and…

02:33Sir, this is very confusing.

02:35I don't think, knowing your situation in the court…

02:39See, this is a political case.

02:41These are not legal cases.

02:43That is why you saw that all the petitions went to the larger bench.

02:47Now, the case will go to the larger bench.

02:50Now, if a blanket order comes to the larger bench,

02:53then it will be a very strong order.

02:56The narrative that comes to the Khans,

02:58it comes on social media, it comes in tweets,

03:00the conversation that Leema Khan does,

03:02it is in her own words.

03:04So, in her own words, there is an expression,

03:07there is a statement,

03:09it has a political work on it,

03:11it has an effect on the party.

03:13That effect will not be in someone else's presence.

03:16So, what Leema Khan does,

03:18for example, if there is a ban on Leema Khan's conversation,

03:21it would be a serious blow,

03:23as far as I am concerned,

03:25in my personal opinion.

03:27Because she talks there,

03:29then you see, a whole science…

03:31First, there was an impression that your party has been choked.

03:34Now, what is it?

03:35Is it an impression that your narrative is being choked?

03:38Look, what you said in the beginning,

03:40that is very important.

03:42That by doing part and parcel,

03:44that is, first you…

03:46Death by a thousand cuts.

03:48Yes.

03:50First, you put a ban on Imran Khan's picture,

03:52you put a ban on his name,

03:54you put a ban on his voice.

03:56One day, a picture came out of the Supreme Court.

03:58Now, if there is a ban on his narrative,

04:00then this is unacceptable.

04:02At least, political workers like us…

04:04Have you accepted it?

04:06Look, this will happen,

04:08we will fight it out.

04:10Obviously, it was my opinion

04:12that we should have fought it out.

04:14That we should have submitted it.

04:16But obviously, when this decision will come,

04:18there is a lot of confusion.

04:20Because one thing,

04:22the reporters are saying,

04:24that it is a general order.

04:26Mr. Rai is talking about something else.

04:28So, this is a confusion.

04:30I think this decision will come,

04:32that whatever will be discussed,

04:34whatever will be discussed,

04:36will not be shared outside.

04:38Otherwise, what is the difference

04:40between Diyala and Islamabad?

04:42It is a 15-minute drive.

04:44You can go out of Diyala,

04:46you can go to Dagil and talk.

04:48Then your purpose will not be fulfilled.

04:50Why would you just do Diyala?

04:52What difference does it make from the gate?

04:54Then all these hassles will never happen.

04:56As I told you,

04:58the hot, fresh work,

05:00that is very confusing.

05:02Other people from your party

05:04will come and discuss.

05:06In the evening programs,

05:08all these things will be made.

05:10There will be discussions.

05:12There is no freedom of expression.

05:14We are not putting any restrictions

05:16on freedom of expression.

05:18It is not universal.

05:20It is a code.

05:22Logical.

05:24So, why can't we talk at the gate of Diyala,

05:26which can be done in Islamabad?

05:28Explain me its logic.

05:30When they meet,

05:32they misuse it.

05:34After the meeting,

05:36they come out of jail and

05:38make political statements.

05:40What is the problem?

05:42If I meet a political person,

05:44even if I am his lawyer,

05:46I talk to him about politics.

05:48I talk to my client.

05:50In the whole world,

05:52apart from the jail,

05:54the media stands with the lawyers

05:56outside the courtroom.

05:58Why can't we talk right now?

06:00Why?

06:02I don't think we should spread

06:04a sensation.

06:06Then you will say that they

06:08cannot talk.

06:10But it is not for me to say.

06:12The court has imposed it.

06:14The government has not imposed it.

06:16You are the Minister of State

06:18for law and justice.

06:20You should be able to explain it to us.

06:22I cannot regulate the judges.

06:24Do you agree with this?

06:26I agree.

06:28If you agree,

06:30then justify it.

06:32Sensationalize it.

06:3415 minutes, 2 miles away,

06:36they are sensationalizing it.

06:38What difference does it make?

06:40What will happen then?

06:42It will become a new norm.

06:44People are used to

06:46coming out of jail

06:48and press conference.

06:50People will know that

06:52every 30 minutes there is a press conference.

06:54This is not logical.

06:56You cannot stand here

06:58and do this.

07:00I think a lot of

07:02their people

07:04and their party members

07:06whether they are leaders

07:08or not,

07:10they go to be seen.

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