"Those sitting in this train were poor; if this attack had been on..." Senior Journalist Nusrat Javed

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00:00In my program yesterday, former Senator Sana Baloch said something very interesting.

00:05He said that confidence-building measures should be taken.

00:07And it seems that if you look at the statements of terrorists and politicians,

00:11two issues are the biggest.

00:13One, they say that elections are not clear.

00:16Because of that, there is a lot of confusion.

00:18But the biggest issue is missing persons.

00:20During the break, the doctor was telling me how many roads have been built in Balochistan

00:24and they are related to missing persons.

00:26If the issue of missing persons is resolved,

00:29then perhaps the biggest strength of this statement will be broken.

00:33In this segment, I will try to ask all three of my friends

00:36how the issue of missing persons can be resolved.

00:39Because the report of the Missing Persons Commission has not been released yet.

00:43Judges do not get salaries of 11-12 lakhs a month.

00:46That report is not in front of us yet.

00:49And people keep talking about it.

00:51How can the issue of missing persons be resolved or mitigated?

01:21I have seen Mr. Bhutto's insurgency.

01:24He was arrested and tortured in Karaj branch for a week or 10 days.

01:28Then he was put in jail.

01:32And these cases went on for 2, 3, 4 years.

01:36I think that at least those who are very dangerous,

01:41they should meet their family once a month

01:46so that the family knows that their son is alive.

01:50If this issue is resolved,

01:53then I think that at least in Balochistan,

01:56you will be able to express your opinions.

01:59And the sympathies of your people are more on this issue.

02:09Secondly, you will have to provide job opportunities,

02:14development and good governance.

02:18And you will have to hold free and fair elections.

02:48Mr. Malik, Balochistan does not have many administrative divisions or districts.

02:58In my opinion, CBM can be a starting point.

03:03I would suggest that all three to four districts should have an administrative structure.

03:09First of all, you should make laws.

03:11You should make transparent laws.

03:13And when they pass, you should have the will to implement them.

03:17And you should have three to four districts as model districts.

03:20You should have as many administrative things as possible.

03:23You should establish law offices.

03:25These are the districts where there is a lot of confusion.

03:28Yes, where there is a lot of confusion and issues.

03:30And in a transparent way,

03:32I would suggest that people of civil society should also be involved in monitoring.

03:36Establish a monitoring group

03:38in which 100% of the missing people,

03:40who are made a missing case,

03:42a solid body should be there to announce that he is a black person.

03:48But there are some terrorists,

03:50there are some people who you may not be able to declare.

03:54But there is a body that is monitoring him.

03:57And it is telling everyone that you can do whatever you want.

04:01But establish it in three to four districts.

04:04And run it in a transparent way.

04:06You will find out for yourself whether the missing person is being exploited more

04:09or there are genuine issues.

04:11There is a senior politician,

04:13there is a senior military officer.

04:15Both agree on this.

04:16But the biggest question is that

04:18no one believes that there are missing persons or not.

04:20First of all, it is important to believe this.

04:22This is a mind change.

04:23How will this happen?

04:24And secondly, do you think that

04:26if we make this a top priority

04:28and make the government a singular agenda point,

04:30development will take place

04:32and ultimately that is the only solution.

04:34So for missing persons,

04:36this should be the numero uno priority.

04:39Sir, this should happen.

04:40I have a simple request.

04:42There is a threat of bail.

04:44So the thing is that

04:46tell me about any top politician in Pakistan

04:51who has not been arrested for 90 days under the law of NAB.

04:56Corruption is accused.

04:58So there is no question of bail in 90 days.

05:01Okay, sir.

05:02So you should use the same formula on the so-called terrorists.

05:08And like you have made NAB,

05:10make an anti-terrorist agency like this.

05:13Say that he has the power to arrest someone.

05:17The second thing, as Mr. Malik is saying,

05:20if you are starting now,

05:22then do this for now.

05:24But I am telling you again

05:27that for now you are in this mindset

05:30that like a person is listening to you, me,

05:34general sir, Dr. Malik sir seriously

05:38that there is a problem.

05:40Look, this incident that has happened,

05:44you believe me,

05:46if it had happened somewhere else,

05:48you tell me one thing,

05:4922 hours, 22 hours have passed.

05:52Listen, 22 hours have passed.

05:54There is a meeting of the National Assembly.

05:56There the leader of the opposition stands

05:58and says that we should discuss Balochistan.

06:00It has been 22 hours.

06:02So they say, no, no, sir, this is not an issue.

06:05Today, the so-called joint agreement is accepted.

06:09Look at the seriousness.

06:11Please look at the English version of it.

06:14When thanks have been paid for it,

06:16the armed forces,

06:17the military,

06:18and someone has written the air force by hand.

06:21That is, they were able to retype.

06:23This is the level.

06:25Okay, we can say that they did not know this much.

06:29Tell me, did the Minister of Internal Affairs come to the National Assembly to tell me what happened?

06:34Did the Minister of Defense see any commentary today?

06:37Look, you have said something very big.

06:39I say, appreciable.

06:41I am saying this with great pleasure.

06:43He heard it.

06:44He heard it.

06:45Perhaps he is upset that Parvez Khattak has come in.

06:48Why did he not get all the powers there?

06:50Why are the issues going on inside?

06:52If there is a problem with him,

06:54then such a problem is not with Khwaja Ziv.

06:56There is an allegation against him that he is the Minister of Defense.

06:59It is a good story.

07:04Within two days,

07:06at a place where the road is 26 kilometers long.

07:10But the problem is that the people on that train were poor people.

07:16If this attack had happened at a five-star hotel.

07:19Exactly.

07:20Yesterday I said that they were poor people and irrelevant.

07:25Okay, tell me,

07:27Doctor,

07:29there is a little time left.

07:31But if the conversation and the question were left in the middle.

07:34If you have to talk right now,

07:36you should talk to everyone.

07:38There are Marang and other people

07:40whom you say are the mouthpiece of terrorists.

07:42You will talk to everyone.

07:44Who will you talk to?

07:46Look, I understand that

07:48effectively,

07:50there are two organizations.

07:53They are BLA and BLF.

07:56But they will not talk.

07:58Because they are both young.

08:01They are the progenitors of BSO.

08:03They are intelligent people.

08:05But you should at least make a little attempt.

08:09At least try.

08:11The rest of the people who are sitting outside.

08:15Someone should pray to them.

08:18Someone should talk about confidence building.

08:21So that some things are initiated.

08:25In Balochistan,

08:27there have been wars and negotiations.

08:32If you completely reject these negotiations,

08:36then things will be...

08:38I mean, today you see

08:41that Ghaza will be destroyed.

08:43Everything will be destroyed.

08:45Despite this,

08:47Amas says that we will talk.

08:50Everything will be destroyed.

08:53Amas should not talk.

08:56But he says that we will talk.

08:59The point is that ultimately,

09:01we will have to talk.

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