" Doors of CM House Are Open for Sanaa Baloch, Jahanzaib Mengal, and Sardar Akhtar Mengal,

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00:00I'd like to include the rest of you as well.

00:02Perhaps you've heard the talks.

00:04There's nothing offensive about it.

00:07It's a very historic analysis.

00:09Today, your CM has spoken.

00:11Who will he speak to?

00:13You must have identified someone.

00:15Who will he speak to? Who are the people?

00:18Malik sir, thank you.

00:20Since Sana made a complaint at the beginning of the program,

00:23and I understand this complaint to some extent,

00:27I'd like to say that instead of talking about emotions,

00:30let's talk about substance.

00:32The things that Sana said are very important.

00:35No one can deny their importance.

00:38But if I start the conversation,

00:40Sana mentioned her resignation in 2007.

00:43The things that Sana said will have a substance.

00:46Those things were seen in the coming days.

00:48Sana is a wisdom-keeping leader.

00:50But such a wisdom-keeping leader

00:52and her political party

00:54boycotted the elections in 2008.

00:57She gave the example of Aceh,

00:59the example of the autonomy there,

01:01that the rights were given there.

01:04They asked for freedom.

01:06But it's just like asking for a gun license

01:08and taking a pistol.

01:10In 2008, the Balochistan National Party

01:12boycotted the elections.

01:14Even after that boycott,

01:16the Balochistan National Party was not on the floor.

01:18But in 2010, you will remember,

01:20I will remember,

01:22if you look at the three major reasons

01:24behind the 18th amendment,

01:26which you can say

01:28that the big political parties,

01:30the Pakistan People's Party

01:32and Pakistan Muslim League Noon,

01:34put their interests in it to a great extent,

01:36put a lot of things in front of it.

01:38But there was a third big factor,

01:40Balochistan, whose rights were discussed.

01:42In 2010, after the 18th amendment

01:44and the 7th NFC award,

01:46look, the case that Sana has always

01:48brought up in the last 10, 12, 15 years,

01:50I will second that

01:52we used to give space to Sana

01:54in the media,

01:56that there is weight in her words,

01:58there is logic in her words.

02:00But after 2010,

02:02the work that came after the 18th amendment

02:04was to be done in this province.

02:06After the 7th NFC award,

02:08your share went to 9.0.

02:10Looking at that,

02:12the work you needed to do in Quetta

02:14was not done by our provincial governments.

02:16After that, Sana's community

02:18itself, in 2018,

02:20remained loyal to the government

02:22for about three and a half years

02:24of Imran Khan's government

02:26and then for one and a half years

02:28of PDM's government.

02:30Shahid, let me intervene.

02:32Listen to me.

02:34I don't want to discuss

02:36what the party did on the Mengal group,

02:38what BNP Mengal did,

02:40who didn't do what.

02:42My question was very simple.

02:44Otherwise, this debate will go on.

02:46I don't want that.

02:48I want a serious debate on Balochistan.

02:50Your Prime Minister said

02:52that we should talk about it.

02:54Do you know

02:56who you want to talk to?

02:58Who do you want to talk to?

03:00It's a very interesting situation.

03:02The Chief Minister

03:04when Sana is present here,

03:06when the provincial government

03:08was established,

03:10after the establishment of the provincial government,

03:12there is only one member of the Balochistan National Party,

03:14and that is Mir Janzib Mengal.

03:16There was a debate

03:18in the Chief Minister's House in Quetta

03:20and it was on the highest forum.

03:22The Chief Minister

03:24invited the Iraqi Assembly

03:26and Mir Janzib Mengal was invited.

03:28He gave confirmation

03:30that he would come to that meeting.

03:32He didn't come to that meeting.

03:34This is the Iraqi Assembly

03:36to engage.

03:38There is nothing out of the box.

03:40Whatever decision is to be made,

03:42I don't know.

03:44This is not my question.

03:46Listen to me.

03:48I have to bring in Mazhar.

03:50My question is

03:52I want to know something else.

03:54In my opinion,

03:56this is a serious credibility issue.

03:58The way people

04:00get elected in Balochistan,

04:02there are no two opinions.

04:04You can debate.

04:06You are a government spokesperson.

04:08I understand your helplessness.

04:10This is a serious issue.

04:12I am asking you.

04:14It has been a while

04:16since we sat down

04:18to discuss this issue.

04:20This is a parliamentary

04:22credibility issue.

04:24These people are not

04:26carrying guns.

04:28These people are not

04:30running after Marang Baloch.

04:32There is a narrative in the market

04:34whether it is right or wrong.

04:36Thousands of people are following it.

04:38You have to talk to

04:40one of the people

04:42who are following this narrative.

04:44The one who did not

04:46carry a gun.

04:48Do you have a partner

04:50of dialogue from the other side?

04:52Have you identified anyone?

04:54Let's talk about

04:56the partner of dialogue.

04:58Let me give you an example.

05:00Maulana Hidayatul Rehman

05:02is on the opposition bench

05:04in the Balochistan Assembly.

05:06He wrote to the Chief Minister

05:08to talk about these points.

05:10The Chief Minister

05:12admitted that he wrote

05:148 to 10 points

05:16which can be discussed.

05:18Sana is a person

05:20who has a lot of influence.

05:22If the Balochistan National Party

05:24or Sana Baloch or Sardar Aftar Mengel

05:26can play any role,

05:28when the doors of Sarfaraz Bugti

05:30are opened for Jamiat-e-Ulema Islam

05:32and Maulana Hidayatul Rehman,

05:34what can you say

05:36to these people?

06:04The mindset of Rawalabad

06:06does not change

06:08when it comes to Balochistan.

06:10At that time,

06:12not even a single leaf

06:14can move in Balochistan.

06:16We have to appease

06:18the leaders of Rawalpindi

06:20and Islamabad

06:22that we can go to this extent

06:24even though it is not so.

06:26When you talked about

06:28where to start negotiations,

06:30there is no discussion

06:32at all.

06:34This is not a matter

06:36of business dealings.

06:38When the issue

06:40with Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti

06:42was going on,

06:44when a big movement

06:46was going on in Balochistan,

06:48it was the conclusion

06:50of the concurrent list

06:52which had 48 subjects.

06:54The first resolution

06:56or constitutional amendment

06:58bill was mine.

07:00The basis of the amendment

07:02was my legislative bill.

07:04Then Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti

07:06was martyred.

07:08Thousands of people

07:10were displaced in Balochistan.

07:12Due to this,

07:14there was some flexibility

07:16in the constitution.

07:18You tell me,

07:20is your media

07:22free in Pakistan?

07:24Is freedom of speech

07:26and freedom of assembly

07:28free in Balochistan?

07:30Please correct me

07:32if I am wrong.

07:34Balochistan should be seen

07:36from the perspective

07:38of development

07:40rather than security.

07:42I will explain this

07:44a little further.

07:46When you ask

07:48who to negotiate with,

07:50you don't need to negotiate.

07:52This drama has been going on

07:54for 20 years.

07:56If you didn't have

07:58a justice system,

08:00you could have

08:02solved this problem.

08:04The confidence building measures

08:06we gave in 2013

08:08and 2008

08:10when I resigned.

08:12Confidence building measures

08:14are to move towards dialogue.

08:16I will give you space

08:18and you will give me space.

08:20Gradually, the crisis

08:22has increased in 30-40 years.

08:24We need a three-year process.

08:26We need credible leadership.

08:28The credibility of this assembly

08:30is zero.

08:32We won't negotiate with a transporter.

08:34Let me get Mazhar.

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