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"If You Claim to Have Fixed Everything, Why the Need for 20-25 Ministers" Rauf Klasra
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3/6/2025
"If You Claim to Have Fixed Everything, Why the Need for 20-25 Ministers" Rauf Klasra
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00:00
Mr. Kalasarath, I would like to ask you about the numbers of inflation and all these things.
00:06
One reason for the decrease in inflation could be that the purchasing power of people
00:11
is not increasing much in this period.
00:14
If people reduce their purchasing power, their purchasing power will not be so strict
00:18
or their salaries will not increase accordingly,
00:20
then that also impacts on how much they go out and try to buy.
00:25
So, do the government officials keep this in mind when they talk about the CPI?
00:31
This needs to be understood.
00:33
When the government says that the rate of inflation has decreased,
00:37
as Mr. Gareeda was saying,
00:40
the common man does not understand it in the same way
00:42
that what the government is saying and what the common man is understanding.
00:44
There is a huge gap between the two.
00:46
The government says that the speed at which inflation was increasing,
00:49
we have controlled that speed.
00:51
They do not say that inflation is decreasing.
00:53
They are not saying that.
00:54
It is a very delicate point.
00:55
It needs to be kept in mind.
00:57
They talk about the rate.
00:58
It increased by 10% every day after a week.
01:02
It increased by 20% or 40%.
01:03
But the public is given this impression initially
01:06
until its explanations come from the economic experts.
01:09
The public does not understand this.
01:11
They say that there is inflation.
01:13
They think that things are getting more expensive.
01:14
The public is right.
01:16
If the rate is 3% every day,
01:18
then it needs to be differentiated.
01:21
It is tricky.
01:22
The problem is that inflation is not decreasing.
01:26
It is increasing.
01:27
It is increasing by 3%, 5%, 40%.
01:30
It is multiplying.
01:32
The government claims that
01:34
it was increasing by 40% initially.
01:37
It was increasing by 40% initially.
01:38
Now it is decreasing.
01:39
Now they say that it is increasing by 3%, 5%, 6%.
01:43
The common man understands.
01:44
When you say that inflation is decreasing,
01:46
the common man does not think that it is decreasing.
01:48
The common man understands that
01:50
the samosas used to cost Rs.10.
01:51
Now it has increased by Rs.11.
01:54
The inflation has decreased.
01:55
What does the government say?
01:56
They say that it was supposed to cost Rs.15.
01:58
We have increased it by Rs.11.
02:00
It means that one rupee has increased,
02:01
not four rupees.
02:02
So that is the extent of inflation.
02:05
The second thing is what Mr. Gareeda just said.
02:08
You do certain things for the public.
02:12
You do messaging.
02:13
It is a complex.
02:14
I still do not understand IMF.
02:17
They tell us very good things.
02:19
They make us do good things
02:21
which are necessary for us.
02:24
You spent one year and claimed
02:26
that we have spent the whole year very well.
02:29
It was a difficult year for you.
02:30
Despite this, you have brought stability.
02:33
It is your claim.
02:34
We have rectified the government.
02:35
We have rectified things.
02:36
We have rectified everything.
02:37
Then why do you need 20-25 ministers here?
02:39
Why does IMF not object to them?
02:41
You got your salary from Rs.2.25 lakhs
02:43
or Rs.1 lakhs.
02:44
You got it done for Rs.5 lakhs.
02:46
Why does IMF not object to you?
02:48
You got 20-25 new ministers.
02:50
Now you want more.
02:52
Why does IMF not object to you?
02:53
I raised this question.
02:54
They were saying that
02:55
we are not drawing the salaries.
02:57
We are not taking the salaries
02:58
from the government treasury.
02:59
Who is not taking?
03:00
Mr. Tariq Fazal Chaudhary.
03:01
How many are not taking?
03:02
You should have asked.
03:03
How many are not taking?
03:04
Yes, yes, please.
03:05
Not 5, not 10, not 40.
03:08
I doubt that not all are taking.
03:10
All are taking.
03:11
There must be some people.
03:12
2, 4, 5.
03:13
There are people in every cabinet
03:14
who say that we are not taking salaries.
03:15
I can tell you the names of people
03:16
who are not taking salaries.
03:17
And then they put up news.
03:18
There are big scandals.
03:19
They are not taking.
03:20
You should take.
03:21
I am not in favour
03:22
that you should not take salaries.
03:23
There are a lot of people
03:24
with salaries.
03:25
And their explanation is that
03:26
first they bring it immediately.
03:28
Do you remember
03:29
that it should be 11% size
03:30
after the 18th amendment
03:31
which was fixed.
03:32
Sir, there is one more thing.
03:33
And then there is
03:34
the issue of austerity.
03:35
No, no.
03:36
What is cruelty?
03:37
Cruelty with this country
03:38
and ruling elite
03:39
which we do not tell.
03:40
Cruelty is that
03:41
you renovated the Thakur.
03:42
You renovated it and played drums,
03:43
danced, sang,
03:44
that we have given
03:45
the authority of the province
03:46
and the powers of the whole centre
03:47
to the provinces.
03:48
Now all the powers
03:49
have gone to the provinces.
03:50
The ministry has gone.
03:51
This centre
03:52
will only keep
03:53
7-8 ministries.
03:54
Do you know
03:55
how many ministries
03:56
Pakistan needs
03:57
to run this centre?
03:58
8-10.
03:59
You need
04:00
50 people
04:01
at a distance of 24 km.
04:02
You need
04:03
80 people at a distance of 24 km.
04:04
You need federal ministers.
04:05
In one ministry
04:06
you see
04:07
there is one federal minister
04:08
and then there is the minister of state
04:09
and then there is the advisor
04:10
and then there is the parliamentary secretary.
04:11
You make four ministers sit.
04:12
The work
04:13
that is the work
04:14
of a section officer
04:15
in your deputy commissioner's office
04:16
you have made ministers
04:17
for that.
04:18
You have kept
04:19
4-4 ministers
04:20
in the ministry.
04:21
And even after that
04:22
you see
04:23
the quorums will not be complete.
04:24
The quorums will not be complete
04:25
because the minister
04:26
or Sadiq Sahib
04:27
has written letters
04:28
and he is tired
04:29
that the minister
04:30
does not come to answer
04:31
during question hour.
04:32
This is against his pride.
04:33
You...
04:34
This is corruption.
04:35
I mean
04:36
what work did you do
04:37
on 18th of November?
04:38
Gareeda,
04:39
did you want to add something?
04:40
If you want to,
04:41
then go ahead,
04:42
I am at least a fan of their talks
04:44
But the thing you are asking
04:46
They say that the government is saying that the minister will not take salary
04:49
Okay, don't take salary
04:50
Like Qaid-e-Azam, take one rupee or don't take one rupee
04:53
Make whatever statements you want
04:55
But the optics were not appropriate
04:58
They were not good
05:00
And whether a minister takes salary or not
05:02
But expenses are available to his ministry
05:04
On the other hand, the government is saying that we are right-sizing
05:08
We are downsizing
05:09
We are doing austerity
05:11
We are doing austerity measures
05:13
So the austerity measures on which we used to criticize the government of Imran Khan
05:17
The same is the case here
05:19
You are saying that we have deducted 10 rupees from one place
05:22
But put 100 rupees in another place
05:24
So you are hiding 100 rupees
05:26
And you are highlighting the deduction of 10 rupees
05:29
So even if the cabinet ministers or advisors do not take salary
05:34
But their ministries have expenses
05:36
They will increase the expenses
05:37
And if you are saying that one minister had two ministries
05:41
So from there you are taking two different ministers
05:44
Is this right-sizing or downsizing?
05:46
Is this austerity or you are increasing the cost?
05:50
If 8-10 ministers are needed, then what is the need of the government?
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