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Message of Unity is Crucial, the Country’s Largest Party Must...’ PTI Leader
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3/19/2025
Message of Unity is Crucial, the Country’s Largest Party Must...’ PTI Leader
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00:00
Q. Senator, you have said that Pakistan is under attack from the past few days.
00:08
If you look at KP or Balochistan, there are different fronts, but they are being targeted.
00:14
Do you think that it was necessary to send a message of unity from here at this time?
00:22
Q. Senator, you have said that Pakistan is under attack from the past few days.
00:28
If you look at KP or Balochistan, there are different fronts, but they are being targeted.
00:34
Do you think that it was necessary to send a message of unity from here at this time?
00:40
Q. Senator, you have said that Pakistan is under attack from the past few days.
00:44
I just want to give you an example.
00:46
More than 48 hours ago, Pakistan faced 45 terrorist attacks.
00:56
More than 48 hours ago, Pakistan faced 45 terrorist attacks.
01:07
There is no doubt that the message of unity should be conveyed.
01:12
I was also with Nadeem Malik on the day of the hijacking of the train and the attack.
01:19
The same thing was being said there that the whole of the nation approach should be taken.
01:24
And in the whole of the nation approach, you cannot achieve the whole of the nation approach
01:29
by excluding the biggest political party in the country.
01:32
And I would like to make one thing clear, because you have mentioned it twice in your introduction.
01:38
Yesterday, when we were asked for a list, you agreed to it.
01:44
And apart from that, when we had to communicate about the decision of participation,
01:49
what I can see is that there has been an attempt to create confusion
01:57
or to make the PTI a dead allegation.
02:01
There is nothing like that in this.
02:03
First, there was a meeting of the parliamentary party.
02:05
It was during the day.
02:06
Even in the meeting of the parliamentary party, the decision was that participation would be required.
02:12
And on that occasion, a list was sent.
02:15
But sending a list did not mean that participation would be required.
02:18
After that, the meeting of the political committee took place in the evening after Iftaar
02:21
and continued till 2.30 in the morning.
02:23
But in the beginning itself, the decision was made.
02:26
The same thing that took place in the meeting of the parliamentary party,
02:29
that too took place in the evening in the meeting of the political committee.
02:33
And there, 27 people participated.
02:37
Out of that, 4 people said that non-conditional participation should be taken.
02:42
But the majority of the 23 people…
02:46
They left after seeing the social media.
02:48
The overwhelming majority said that conditional participation will be taken.
02:51
And to what extent was it conditional? Only one.
02:53
And we do not think that there was any illegitimate or irresponsible demand in it.
02:59
Only this.
03:00
That we should have access to our Bani chairman, Mr. Imran Khan.
03:03
We should be able to take guidance from him.
03:05
And his notice had also gone to the government.
03:09
The state had a good notice.
03:12
But when our condition…
03:15
So when Amir Dogar sent this list…
03:19
When Amir Dogar sent this list, you were not in agreement.
03:23
But you said that since there is a deliberation on this, we will send the names in advance.
03:26
No, no. There was agreement even then.
03:28
The list was sent because if there had been a decision later that we will participate,
03:32
then the speaker's office would not have been open at 2 in the night to collect the list.
03:36
And in the morning, there was a complete siege there.
03:40
So we had to send the list that if there is participation, then these people will participate.
03:45
So you wrote the letter at night, right?
03:50
No, so the letter…
03:55
But my question is that if the speaker's office was not open at 2 or 12 at night,
04:00
then you had written the letter at that time.
04:06
Okay.
04:15
Hmm.
04:16
I am not saying that the entire opposition, including Akhtar Jaan Mengal and his party,
04:21
and Mehmood Khan Achakzai and his party, and Allama Raja Nasir Abbas and his party,
04:26
and the entire opposition did not participate.
04:29
And they had their own reasons.
04:31
This was our reason.
04:32
But the declaration that came after that, at least I consider one thing to be positive,
04:37
that there is a need for national agreement in this, whatever action is to be taken.
04:40
Yes, so Maulana Fazlur Rehman was present there.
04:43
Yes.
04:50
Mr. Rana, what do you think are the reasons?
04:52
Yesterday, we thought that when we did our show, that now PTI has to participate in this,
04:57
because they had given the name and the impression was that it was going.
05:00
Later, it was felt that when a little trolling started on social media,
05:03
then they said that something was wrong.
05:08
But first of all, this…
05:09
There was a disagreement in the party.
05:11
It is a regrettable thing that we have to discuss PTI and their internal matters again and again.
05:19
And the focus where it should be, is not there.
05:22
Because they plan it like that.
05:25
Because he said that you excluded a central party of Pakistan.
05:30
No, we invited them.
05:32
Their opposition leaders belong to PTI.
05:36
And a list was asked from them, that you tell me who all have to participate.
05:39
So, they were invited.
05:41
An open invitation.
05:43
See, their entire policy in the last one and a half years,
05:46
whether it is to fight elections in Oxford,
05:49
it had only one purpose, that international pressure should fall on Mr. Khan.
05:53
In America, they addressed the senators,
05:56
which they did, ruined the country.
05:58
The purpose was the same, that external pressure should fall.
06:02
This is also a moment in the history of Pakistan,
06:07
that you have to be on the right side.
06:09
You have to decide, as a community,
06:13
what is important for you.
06:15
Is national interest important for PTI?
06:17
It should be more important than political interest.
06:19
Yes, political interest.
06:20
Now, this is such a thing, we were not allowed to meet.
06:22
Okay, if you were not allowed to meet,
06:24
then you could have come there and talked about it.
06:26
But not participating,
06:28
it is a very negative step that PTI took.
06:31
And I understand that this is not the time to create division.
06:36
This is not the time to create divisions.
06:38
This is not the time for your conversation to be divided.
06:42
But unfortunately, who can make them understand?
06:44
Their attitude has always been the same.
06:47
And maybe they are also divided.
06:49
A majority in their party,
06:51
I think, who had decided that we should include non-constitutional,
06:56
they could not prevail because of this fear,
06:59
that what will be Mr. Khan's reaction.
07:01
Because their agenda is different.
07:03
When your agenda is different,
07:05
then it is obvious that you are exposed.
07:07
And I think, today PTI was exposed in the worst way.
07:10
And their voters too,
07:12
they too must have regretted that at such a moment,
07:14
where your internal rifts do not matter.
07:19
These small things do not matter.
07:21
But what mattered for the country,
07:23
that their presence was there.
07:25
I think that even today we should give the same message
07:28
that APK's chief executive was present,
07:30
so their presence was there.
07:32
It is a good thing.
07:34
This input is very important.
07:36
It is a good thing that there is a conversation,
07:38
there is a discussion,
07:40
and things are resolved on this forum.
07:42
So I think that today PTI is standing on the wrong side of history.
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