"PTI Leader Barrister Umair Niazi: 'We must also see who is fueling the fire of terrorism

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00:00Now, one thing is that your meetings have also been opened.

00:05Meetings are also taking place.

00:07So, now India should be taken from this, that now the suggestion given by Mr. Bilawal

00:12that the meeting should be called again.

00:14So, will you participate after the consultation or what will be the procedure?

00:20In the name of Allah, most Gracious, most Merciful.

00:22Fundamentally, you are talking about the beginning of meetings.

00:25Today was the first meeting and that too was the day of meeting Bukla and the meeting of the family.

00:30And this meeting has not yet been held by any of the political liberals.

00:34It is their Thursday.

00:35Now, on Thursday, when the meeting will take place, the real thing will be known.

00:38But what is the need to see?

00:40See, October…

00:41By the way, how did Babar Awan sir leave?

00:43Babar Awan sir is a lawyer.

00:46See, you, Mr. Salman Raja, he is a lawyer.

00:50He is a lawyer in Mr. Khan's case.

00:52See, take the duration of four and a half months.

00:56How many political meetings are there in this?

00:58Basically, Mr. Khan was kept near to isolation.

01:01What is the only purpose?

01:03That the relationship between the party and them will break.

01:05When there is such a situation, you expect that justice will take perfect decisions.

01:11It becomes very difficult to operate in such an environment.

01:15This is the courage of the party.

01:16The party still tried to run things, tried to fill those gaps.

01:20Today, there was a very detailed meeting.

01:22Now, what Mr. Khan has said, we will meet on Thursday.

01:25So, Mr. Salman Akram Raja has already met, right?

01:27He is also the Secretary General of the party.

01:29He is calling the shots.

01:30Of course, we have met.

01:31We have given him instructions.

01:34Now, the political people will go.

01:35Now, see, Mr. Salman Akram Raja, meeting once solves all the problems.

01:39See, which party are you talking about?

01:41The majority party.

01:42Now, see, you talk about Balochistan.

01:44Terrorists.

01:45This seems to be a very good thing to say that we are trying to put out the fire.

01:51But are we seeing who is putting firewood in this fire?

01:54See, we are not tackling that thing.

01:56If you just look at the operational side, that we have an operation.

02:00But on principle, tell me this.

02:02Tell me this.

02:03On principle, do you think this decision was right for you?

02:06Not being a part of it at that time?

02:08Because, then again, I will say that if this was a meeting with a political party, then it would have been different.

02:14That you are meeting with the Noon League, or you are meeting with the JUI, or you are meeting with the People's Party.

02:18That would have been something different.

02:20This was a matter of national security.

02:22And we all make a pledge to love the country.

02:24We also take oaths.

02:25So, what is the need to ask for that?

02:27This is within us.

02:28This is in our core.

02:29See, now also, the way Mr. Iqtiyar talked about sugar-coating,

02:34whatever he does, it will sound very good.

02:36But what he has said, what he has announced,

02:39there was such a thing that what is the mandate, what is the briefing to be done,

02:42overall, some steps will be taken apart from the briefing.

02:45Overall, a day before, it is said that there is a security briefing in a closed camera.

02:50Now, what are its TORs, what is going to happen, no one knows.

02:53Suddenly, there is a commotion.

02:55Even then, Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaat does not say that we do not want to participate in this.

02:59She has a condition, with whom to meet.

03:01And the next day, Mr. Khan also has a political meeting.

03:04I mean, that day could have been.

03:06Barrister Gauhar was already present from 9 in the morning after Adiala.

03:10The same meeting that was done at 2 in the afternoon,

03:13can't it be done at 9 in the morning?

03:15If it was done at 9, then Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaat could have participated.

03:17There are a lot of things in it.

03:18He has also given the name first.

03:19See, he has also sent the name first.

03:21Then after that, at 12 in the evening, a letter is being written to the Speaker.

03:24See, he has given the name because we have not denied it.

03:27See, we have not denied it, we have not accepted it either.

03:30We have only asked him to meet Mr. Imran Khan,

03:34so that there is visibility.

03:35See, you can come from any direction.

03:37Tehreek-e-Insaat.

03:38Okay, I got your point.

03:39I will come back to this point again.

03:41Mr. Sharmilal, tell me,

03:43this first meeting that took place,

03:45when Mr. Bilawal was appealing,

03:46or when he was making a request to the Prime Minister,

03:48I remember the first pointers that Mr. Bilawal spoke about.

03:51He said that if Mr. Nawaz Sharif can give the National Action Plan,

03:55then why can't Mr. Shahbaz Sharif give National Action Plan 2?

03:58Was Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari's National Security meeting,

04:03or the results of it,

04:05after that, he wanted to upgrade the National Action Plan again,

04:10or add some points to it,

04:12or were some things missing?

04:18See, Mr. Sati,

04:20looking at the situation, matters and the need for time,

04:23the strategy should be changed.

04:25Okay.

04:26There is something that is lacking,

04:28the way terrorism has risen again,

04:32and there are incidents of terrorism happening in a very organized manner.

04:36Undoubtedly, there is the involvement of India and Afghanistan,

04:40they are the facilitators,

04:41they are the promoters,

04:43they are the financers,

04:44but somewhere or the other,

04:46something or the other is missing,

04:48which needs to be looked at.

04:49Where are those lacunas that need to be filled?

04:52So, there is a need to deliberate on that.

04:54All of them should sit together,

04:56and sit with their heads held high.

04:58You see, this is a matter of national security,

05:01a matter of national survival.

05:03Innocent people are going there.

05:04So, did Mr. Bilawal speak to those lacunas in that meeting,

05:07when this meeting took place?

05:10See, the thing is that,

05:12all the leaders spoke in that meeting,

05:16they spoke about themselves,

05:18and there was a briefing about who are the facilitators,

05:22who are the promoters,

05:23where are the witnesses coming from,

05:25in which group, how many people are there,

05:27what should be done and what should not be done.

05:29I, my personal opinion is this,

05:32and my community's personal opinion is this,

05:34that see,

05:35all the deliberation on this,

05:37and a continuous deliberation,

05:39see, this is not a one-off incident.

05:41It is obvious.

05:42There was a briefing,

05:43the matter got over,

05:44and whether to take action or not,

05:46make it a hard state,

05:47get out of a soft state,

05:48whatever.

05:49The thing is that,

05:51this needs to be constantly strategized.

05:54Because, the enemy in front of you,

05:57he too has big facilitators,

05:59and promoters,

06:00and financers.

06:01He has a lot of resources.

06:02Like Mr. Ihtiyar Wali is saying.

06:03And when the self-destruction,

06:04we always say this, Mr. Sati,

06:06when the self-destruction comes,

06:08he does not care about his life.

06:10No.

06:11He has to take his own life,

06:12and has to harm others around him.

06:15So, how do you fight a suicide bomber?

06:18Hmm.

06:19You see,

06:20when the fear of death is over,

06:23then the world is not safe.

06:24Obviously, there are factors,

06:25there are facilitators,

06:26there are so many aspects.

06:27Fighting with such terrorists,

06:28is not easy.

06:29I want to know,

06:30Mr. Ihtiyar Wali said here,

06:31that,

06:32first this meeting was to be held,

06:34after that,

06:35there was to be an APCB.

06:37Is this in your knowledge?

06:40All parties,

06:41that is, it was to be called after this?

06:42See,

06:43this is the government.

06:45Okay.

06:46We will support the government,

06:48on that national issue,

06:49where we think,

06:50that they should be supported.

06:52Okay.

06:53And,

06:54this is also decided,

06:55that we,

06:56Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,

06:57before this National Security meeting,

06:59said this in his address to the National Assembly,

07:03that,

07:04you should make National Action Plan 2.

07:05Okay.

07:06Because,

07:07it is an issue of terrorism.

07:08When Jaffar Express was convened,

07:09he said this.

07:10So,

07:11we are supporting the government,

07:12in every step,

07:13towards improvement and peace.

07:16Now,

07:17if APC is called,

07:18or some other forum is deliberated,

07:20we will support them.

07:21Okay.

07:22See,

07:23any amount of discussion and consensus,

07:25is not enough.

07:26You will have to trust the nation.

07:29You will have to own this war.

07:32You will have to own the nation of this country.

07:35Until you have the will of the people,

07:38you cannot win this war.

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